[11:32] <seb128> hey
[11:33] <seb128> does anyone know when xenial is going to be open for translations?
[11:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^- when you did this for wily, did you run a test copy anywhere?  dogfood doesn't have wily, let alone xenial
[11:38] <wgrant> cjwatson: No, it can't really go wrong any more.
[11:38] <cjwatson> I love it when somebody who isn't me says that.
[11:38] <cjwatson> Let me go find a webop.
[11:39] <wgrant> In the old days it took LP down for eight hours and inserted tens of millions of rows.
[11:39] <wgrant> Bit simpler now.
[11:42] <cjwatson> wgrant: Can you see why ackee.canonical.com::launchpad-production-logs/rosetta/approve-imports.log has been "Lockfile /var/lock/launchpad-translations-import-queue-gardener.lock in use" for ages?
[11:44] <wgrant> cjwatson: Probably libreoffice, but looking.
[11:45] <wgrant> https://translations.launchpad.net/+imports/+index?field.filter_extension=all&field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_target=all&batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=255550&start=255475
[11:45] <wgrant> hi libreoffice
[11:47] <cjwatson> Will that need to be killed?
[11:47] <wgrant> No.
[11:47] <wgrant> It'll just take a few hours each run.
[11:47] <wgrant> Oh
[11:47] <wgrant> You mean for the opening?
[11:47] <wgrant> Yes, best to disable and kill.
[11:47] <cjwatson> Yes
[11:48]  * cjwatson looks for "gardener" and only finds it in a script-monitor line
[11:48] <wgrant> That's rosetta-approve-imports
[11:48] <cjwatson> oh, I guess it's in fact rosetta-approve-imports itself
[11:51] <cjwatson> I'm assuming that gigantic needs-review queue is something that Ubuntu needs to garden
[11:51] <wgrant> Right.
[11:52] <wgrant> Classically Ubuntu's translations people would clean it up, or the LP translations team.
[11:52] <wgrant> There's a minor problem with that strategy now.
[11:52] <cjwatson> That neither group exists?
[11:52] <wgrant> Correct!
[11:54] <cjwatson> dpm: ^- is there still anyone from your end who might be able to have a look at the translations import queue?
[11:56] <dpm> cjwatson, I will approve new templates from time to time, but it's been quite a while now that no one has looked at the import queues. It's just too much manual work
[12:05] <Laney> how long does it for a PPA's reported disk space to drop after deleting packages?
[12:05] <Laney> if a long time, can someone enable armhf on ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa? :)
[12:06] <cjwatson> Laney: A day ish
[12:08] <cjwatson> Laney: that's a virtualised PPA, so armhf will go through qemu-user-static; and ~ubuntu-desktop has non-Canonical members, so I can't make it devirt
[12:08] <cjwatson> are qemu-user-static builds going to be sufficient for what you're doing?  they tend to break with threading
[12:08] <Laney> Well, I want to test an ffmpeg build, so I'd guess not actually.
[12:09] <Laney> I could just grab a silo, or use a PPA of mine
[12:10] <Laney> cjwatson: Maybe https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+edit ? Or I can grab a landing PPA if you prefer.
[12:11] <cjwatson> Laney: I'm not in commercial-admins, so can't do it myself.  wgrant may still be around, otherwise using a silo would be simplest
[12:11] <wgrant> Size bump?
[12:11] <wgrant> Sure.
[12:12] <Laney> wgrant: devirt-and-armhf
[12:13] <wgrant> Laney: Or I could just bump the quota of ~laney/ubuntu/arm.
[12:13] <Laney> wgrant: If you think ffmpeg is going to survive a build
[12:13] <wgrant> Oh, that's virt, I see.
[12:13] <Laney> Or devirt that one, whatever. :P
[12:14] <wgrant> May make more sense to devirt that one.
[12:14] <wgrant> experimental doesn't look obviously nonvirt.
[12:14] <wgrant> arm's quota quadrupled, virt disabled.
[12:15] <Laney> Cheers!
[12:20] <cjwatson> seb128: OK, initial steps done from our end, and I've mailed ubuntu-translations-coordinators@ for the next bits.  Will see if anyone answers.
[12:21] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks
[16:17] <sergiusens> cjwatson, hey, I recall a while back that we might get commit message semantics for git to have lp mark bugs 'Fix Commited'
[16:26] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Certainly not that; LP has never done that even for bzr.  But we should hopefully get links in the not too distant future, which were dependent on some generalising of cross-references that wgrant did a while back.
[16:32] <sergiusens> oh sorry, right, the automatic Fixed Comitted state change is a tarmac thing