[06:43] <anton> morning all
[06:47] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:08] <pieter2627> morning all
[07:21] <anton> morning
[07:47]  * dcbane kicks Trixar_za
[07:47] <Squirm> There he is
[07:47] <dcbane> wake up, noob
[07:47] <Squirm> He's not actually here though :P
[07:47] <dcbane> he's never "here"
[07:47] <dcbane> even when chatting
[07:47] <dcbane> we both know this from the gig days
[07:52]  * dcbane noogies Trixar_za
[07:52] <dcbane> wake up
[07:52] <dcbane> >=[
[07:53] <Trixar_za> You rang?
[07:53] <dcbane> FINALLY
[07:53] <dcbane> long time no yack
[07:53] <dcbane> how the heck are ya
[07:53]  * dcbane sets the phone down
[07:53] <Trixar_za> Well slightly sore
[07:54] <dcbane> cramp will do that
[07:54] <Trixar_za> I have a talent for falling and hurting my left side these days. Second time in 3 weeks.
[07:54] <dcbane> lean on the other foot then
[07:54] <dcbane> even it up
[07:55] <Trixar_za> Yeah, that might just be it :P
[07:55] <dcbane> you still keep in touch with the gigcrew?
[07:56] <dcbane> including that co wikian of yours
[07:56] <dcbane> forget his name, probably wasn't important
[07:56] <Trixar_za> Only one or two people. I've mostly pissed off the rest
[07:56] <dcbane> such as?
[07:56] <Trixar_za> Bertrum - real name Brian
[07:56] <dcbane> yeh, that's the bugger
[07:57] <dcbane> and who's the other one(s) you still keep in touch with?
[07:57] <Trixar_za> Well, there's St0N3r, D3M0N, Athena and Andz - all people I apparently pissed off. Niki doesn't chat anymore since we're not together anymore.
[07:57] <dcbane> aww but Niki was hawt
[07:58] <dcbane> Andz pissed me off to the core, so gave her the cold shoulder
[07:58] <Trixar_za> Timmy is never online either. Got himself a girlfriend
[07:58] <dcbane> Athena I could never quite get a handle on
[07:58] <dcbane> one moment she hates my guts, the other she's flirting non-stop with me
[07:58] <dcbane> D3M0N is MIA for over a year now
[07:58] <dcbane> even his cell's been disconnected
[07:58] <dcbane> and his alternative-to-searchirc is also down I've heard (but never verified)
[07:58] <Trixar_za> Haven't seen Bertrum in like a year now.
[07:59] <dcbane> don't even remember St0N3r...
[07:59] <dcbane> how about katsklaw?
[07:59] <Trixar_za> Katsklaw also hasn't been very active. Popped in once or twice, but he's mostly focusing on his long haul transport business
[08:00] <dcbane> always did comment he needed something long
[08:00] <dcbane> guess that's it right there
[08:04] <Trixar_za> lol - yeah
[08:08] <Trixar_za> So how are you when you're not threatening to send Shawn to people's houses? :P
[08:09] <dcbane> surviving
[08:09] <dcbane> if you were on skype we could call and I can give ya the rundown
[08:10] <Trixar_za> I actually am on skype, I just don't run it very often.
[08:10] <dcbane> I don't have you on my contact list
[08:10] <dcbane> do now
[08:11] <Trixar_za> trixarian85
[08:11] <dcbane> I know
[08:11] <dcbane> already found you
[08:11] <Trixar_za> lol, I see
[08:12] <dcbane> you're too damn predictable with your account names :P
[08:12] <Trixar_za> I picked it in 2007, so sue me :P
[08:12] <dcbane> how much can you afford to be sued for? :)
[08:17] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:28]  * dcbane kicks isp of trixxo
[11:28] <Vlekkie> Ola
[12:25] <Kilos> hi vlek
[12:25] <Kilos> hi jaysen 
[12:26] <jaysen> hi Kilos
[12:26] <jaysen> ola vlek
[12:26] <Kilos> he left already sigh
[12:26] <Kilos> ive been baking in the sun so missed him
[12:27] <Kilos> hi superfly hows the eina
[13:04] <captine> hi all
[13:04] <captine> managed to get irc at work through digitalocean droplet
[13:04] <captine> :)
[14:03] <Kilos> hi captine 
[17:39] <Kilos> can someone advise me please. i have an hp nsc-15900 here that i want to scan with. the cartridge is old or out even can one still scan pages
[17:40] <Kilos> ive tried simplescan and skanlite but the red light for the print section is on all the time so nothing happens
[17:41] <Kilos> both apps say scanner busy
[17:46] <Kilos> dont they work without a cartridge in?
[17:46] <Cryterion> good evening everyone
[17:46] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[17:57] <Kilos> hp-doctor command is doing something
[18:03] <Kilos> installing lotsa dependancies
[18:04] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[18:04] <gremble> What're you installing?
[18:04] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:04] <Kilos> im running hp-doctor to try get scanner working
[18:04] <kulelu88> can anyone recommend a good encryption tool for an external HDD>
[18:05] <Kilos> cryptkeeper
[18:05] <Kilos> ?
[18:14] <theblazehen> Evening
[18:14] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[18:15] <Kilos> sigh
[18:15] <Kilos> device busy
[18:15] <Kilos> sigh
[18:15] <theblazehen> Kilos: What's that?
[18:16] <Kilos> stupid hp all in one thing with no cartridge i think
[18:16] <Kilos> i only want to scan some pages
[18:16] <theblazehen> Ai, that's the worst
[18:17] <Kilos> dont they work without cartridge in?
[18:18] <Kilos> if i run skanlite from cli i get
[18:18] <Kilos> Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. 
[18:18] <Kilos> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon 
[18:18] <Kilos> Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath)
[18:18] <Kilos> Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath)
[18:20] <Kilos> sigh
[18:20] <Kilos> error: This distro (i.e ubuntu  14.04) is either deprecated or not yet supported.
[18:20] <Kilos> The diagnosis is limited on unsupported platforms.
[18:44] <gremble> kulelu88: lvm encryption?
[18:47] <gremble> I think the other one is veracrypt. It uses truecrpyt codebase, but a maintainer that fixed the security issues that truecrypt had
[18:49] <kulelu88> yeah veracrypt looks like my choice now
[18:50] <gremble> I wrote a little app in haskell that does rot13 encryption if you're interested?
[18:51] <theblazehen> gremble: The issues that we *know* truecrypt had
[18:51] <theblazehen> gremble: Keep in mind that the devs stated that the code shouldn't be trusted
[18:51] <gremble> theblazehen: All software have issues. At least there is an active maintainer that is doing work on the codebase
[18:52] <theblazehen> And something seems dodgy with their bitdefender suggestion, as that might be backdoored etc. Proprietary
[18:52] <theblazehen> gremble: True. I'd rather go with pgp myself, or dm-crypt
[18:53] <gremble> PGP is keypair technology though. Is it suitable for disk/partition encryption?
[18:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:54] <theblazehen> gremble: Not for disk / partition, yeah. More for files etc
[18:54] <theblazehen> Cya Kilos 
[18:54] <gremble> theblazehen: That is not really useful for someone that switches distro's though
[18:54] <theblazehen> I'd still rather go for dm-crypt or something
[18:54] <theblazehen> gremble: pgp? Well, if you keep your keys..
[18:54] <theblazehen> Afaik veracrypt uses keys derived from the password
[18:55] <gremble> Meh. I haven't looked into encryption. I don't have the appropriate advesaries
[18:55] <theblazehen> gremble: I like it as a matter of principle
[18:55] <gremble> As principle it's fine.
[18:56] <gremble> But I'm not going to turn my house into a prison just to pretend to feel safe
[18:56] <gremble> Likewise, I'm not going to encrypt everything that I own and cause myself inconvenience just to pretend to feel safe
[18:56] <theblazehen> Yeah. I used to be into running everything through tor etc, too much hassle though
[18:56] <gremble> I don't need it
[18:57] <gremble> No one is going to steal my blog posts or my haskell code.
[18:57] <theblazehen> yeah, I suspect that everyone important has backdoors anyway
[18:57] <theblazehen> NSA etc
[18:57] <gremble> They're breaking DH keypairs as a hobby anyway
[18:58] <theblazehen> Yeah
[18:58] <theblazehen> Have you read x86 considered harmful?
[18:58] <theblazehen> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html
[18:58] <theblazehen> qubes os is interesting
[19:00] <gremble> I'll have a look at it if I can find it some peer reviewed journals. I'm rather skeptical about reading random papers on the internet as they don't always follow the most rigerous of analysis and I don't have the time or ability to independently verify their claims.
[19:00] <theblazehen> gremble: This is written by one of the main people behind qubes os, google him
[19:00] <theblazehen> Well respected
[19:01] <gremble> Who writes it is not imporant :P What it says is. 
[19:01] <theblazehen> yeah, I know. But having credentials doesn't hurt
[19:02] <theblazehen> https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/3qffm5/intel_x86_considered_harmful_new_paper/
[19:03] <kulelu88> I did find Tomb, but it didn't work on an old OS
[19:03] <theblazehen> even ignoring the security aspect, it's a great review of the x86 boot process
[19:08] <gremble> I have to either start studying or write an article to get a job at the writing center on campus. I want to do neither
[19:08] <gremble> It's just too hot