[00:35] <shadeslayer> sgclark: thanks for finishing off kscreenlocker
[00:41] <shadeslayer> sgclark: though it still needs the lib so version I think ;)
[01:26] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok. And copyright. Will do that tomorrow, it is not a quick fix lol.
[01:43] <ahoneybun> damn why is it soooooo hard to find any KDE files?
[01:43] <ahoneybun> breeze icons in this moment
[02:11] <ahoneybun> I've updated the support page on the site with new breeze icons now. Feedback and Review needed :)
[02:32] <ahoneybun> man KDE does not like dual monitors...
[02:34] <ahoneybun> seems that xorg restarts after every change and then the monitor shuts down anyway
[05:57] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: I can't come this year
[05:57] <ovidiu-florin> I've used up all my leave days :(
[10:58] <weigi> hi guys
[10:58] <weigi> the kubuntu-ci stable ppa start to depend on qt 5.5
[10:58] <weigi> how do i get qt 5.5?
[10:58] <weigi> or will qt 5.5 land in the same ppa eventually?
[12:07] <clivejo> any testers with xenial installed could you test kdeconnect-plasma for me please, its on my LP - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+packages
[12:09] <clivejo> yofel sgclark Riddell : is there a reason why kdeconnect-plasma is still at version 0.0, when the latest branch on github is 0.9?
[12:09] <Riddell> github? it's in kde
[12:09] <yofel> no idea
[12:09] <clivejo> or does the KF5 version not have versions yet?
[12:12] <Riddell> clivejo: yeah it's just because there's no releases of the kf5 version so it's usually best to stuck to 0.0+ so there's minimal danger of them releasing a lower version number
[12:13] <Riddell> vaca did say he'd made a release tar and I think that's why the branch exists but it didn't seem to happen
[12:15] <clivejo> is github not an official mirror - https://github.com/albertvaka/kdeconnect-kde/ ?
[12:16] <Riddell> mm I guess so
[12:16] <clivejo> shhhh dont tell valorie
[12:25] <Riddell> there was a long thread about github mirrors which I mostly avoided about whether people should be able to commit to them
[12:32] <sitter> sgclark: http://kci.pangea.pub/search/?q=screenlock needs me running the script to provision jobs
[12:32] <sitter> sgclark, yofel: xenial? yes? no? maybe?
[12:33] <yofel> sitter: wily for now
[12:33] <yofel> unless you plan to fully enable xenial. (I thought that wasn't the plan?)
[12:33] <sitter> I mean should I move the integration targets forward from [vivid, wily] to [wily, xenial]
[12:34] <sitter> yofel: up to you, I am not going to make it green. doesn't mean I can't enable you to do that though :P
[12:34] <yofel> then please do so
[12:34] <yofel> then we can wipe the vivid releaes from the PPAs
[12:37] <sitter> blurgh, first I need to fix the hardcoded docker upgrade mess I wrote last month
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:14] <BluesKaj> back on Trusty . Tired of small unreadable fonts on plasma5. Setting the fonts on systemsettings5 as root only works on titlebars , not the toolbars or dialogs on apps requiring root like partition editors etc ....it's a real pita 
[13:53] <mitya57> yofel, ok if I fix kwin symbols?
[13:56] <yofel> erm, maybe
[13:57] <yofel> mgraesslin: so, did you guys reach a conclusion for https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125883/ ?
[13:59] <mgraesslin> yofel: no
[14:00] <mitya57> Not a problem, I didn't realize there was an upstream discussion about it, can wait then.
[14:01] <mitya57> I just noticed it blocks some proposed migrations and the symbols were updated in Debian, so thought it's probably fine.
[14:05] <yofel> I didn't realize that they updated them
[14:05] <yofel> maxyz: why are those gccinternal?
[14:17] <sgclark> morning
[14:24] <mparillo> clivejo: I can try to install your PPA, but your link does not have the usual instructions.
[14:31] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+packages ?
[14:34] <yofel> that URL translates to ppa:clivejo/xenial
[14:34] <soee> 5.4.3 in WIly ? ;o
[14:34] <clivejo> kdeconnect-plasma is in my wily archive too
[14:34] <yofel> soee: ETA for plasma is probably in a week or so
[14:34] <clivejo> I was going to try frameworks in xenial but I dont know how to do it
[14:40] <mparillo> Unpacking kdeconnect-plasma (0.0+git20151110-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1) over (0.0+git20150810-0ubuntu1) ...Setting up kdeconnect-plasma (0.0+git20151110-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1) ... Installing new version of config file /etc/xdg/autostart/kdeconnectd.desktop ...
[14:41] <mparillo> Seemed to install without errors
[14:42] <clivejo> can you test it?
[14:42] <clivejo> Ive it installed and tested sending files back and forth and the remote control
[14:42] <sgclark> soee: yofel I am working on 5.4.3 in wily yes.
[14:43] <sgclark> but first I need to make my desktop functional. depending on krunner to do anything is a real pita.
[14:43] <soee> sgclark: well i have udate shere on my PC @ work avaialble, was it releasd to Wily archive ?
[14:47] <sgclark> nope. it is in the staging. I do not advise upgrading right now..
[14:48] <soee> hmm, why Plasma is in staging-kdeapplications ?
[14:48] <sgclark> because I messed up. Need to delete those.
[14:48] <clivejo> would someone have time to guide me though staging frameworks for xenial using the old tools
[14:48] <soee> sgclark: ah to late i have them installed
[14:49] <sgclark> really should not keeps staging in your sources... it will only end up getting you in trouble...
[14:49] <sgclark> sources.list that is.
[14:49] <sgclark> clivejo: we need to work frameworks Xenial down. please hold off on that
[14:49] <sgclark> I am only doing plasma because it is a point release and will not go in Xenial
[14:49] <yofel> oh great, I broke the qa website
[14:49] <soee> ;D
[14:49] <sgclark> we will start 5.5 iin xenial
[14:49] <sgclark> I do not have access to do anything on the qa site. somehow my password changed.
[14:49] <clivejo> I dont understand what you mean by "work frameworks Xenial down"
[14:49] <sgclark> but I am under the impression we are losing that
[14:49] <sgclark> Needs to release to Xenial first, then we backporrt it to Wily etc
[14:49] <sgclark> And with that we HAVE to do debian merges
[14:50] <clivejo> yes, I understand that part
[14:50] <clivejo> debian merges?
[14:50] <sgclark> yeah a whole other beast.
[14:51] <clivejo> can I be involved in that to learn the process?
[14:51] <sgclark> of course. as soon as I learnn the process now that we share packaging in debian git.
[15:00] <yofel> hm, I guess you lost the password in the server move
[15:00] <yofel> pm
[15:01] <yofel> clivejo: process is easy. create/checkout xenial branch in git, git merge master, then sort out the mess
[15:02] <sgclark> ahh yes that will be easier.
[15:02] <clivejo> I need someone to guide me the first time, take notes and learn how its done
[15:03] <yofel> someone needs to make a long merge todo list on the pad, so we know what's done
[15:03] <sgclark> I can make the list.
[15:04] <maxyz> sgclark: Sorry, need some extra context, which symbols?
[15:04] <sgclark> I am out for training atm. At least until I have a functional desktop and my to-do list shrinks by a bit. I am far from expert on merges anyway.
[15:05] <sgclark> maxyz: I need context too, what ? lol
[15:05] <yofel> maxyz: the kwin epoxy diff (ee2ef307 in master)
[15:11] <maxyz> Ouch, sorry, wrong pong.
[15:12] <maxyz> yofel: Does it matter? Is there anything other that kwin that uses those symbols?
[15:14] <maxyz> yofel: Those symbols can be deleted, afaik
[15:16] <yofel> maxyz: well, I don't know, which is why I asked martin if he knew what was up and he pointed me to https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125883/
[15:16] <yofel> so I just left them be for now
[15:27] <yofel> ok, so, I'm confused now
[15:30] <mck182___> ola, kwin seems to be failing cause of missing kidletime build dep --> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/8282141
[15:31] <mck182___> the latest package is a bit outdated
[15:39] <yofel> ok, well, meh. Guess I'll just update the kwin symbols and blame maxy if something goes wrong :/
[15:42] <mgraesslin> yofel: can I see what you want to do?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> mck182___: fixed
[15:45] <yofel> mgraesslin: cherry pick http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/commit/?id=ee2ef30743b749d34444f5a8f82f6963110e57e9
[15:46] <mgraesslin> maxyz: btw. it would have been awesome if debian would have informed us about that. You found an issue two months before we noticed it
[15:47] <mgraesslin> yofel: well, probably doesn't matter. The code is currently broken one way or the other
[15:48] <yofel> mgraesslin: ok, thanks. Then I'll patch it so our builds don't stay broken
[15:53] <shadeslayer> waiiiitttt
[15:53] <shadeslayer> that looks familiar
[15:54] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: yes, it is
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:54] <yofel> ^^
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yofel: that's literally what I've been working on for a month now xD
[15:54] <mgraesslin> which is exactly the point why a notice would have been nice
[15:54] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:54] <yofel> yeah, I read the reviewboard log
[15:54] <shadeslayer> indeed
[15:54] <mgraesslin> it would have saved us lots of time investigating
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:57] <maxyz> Interesting, I'm way lagged behind with respect to sync things with upstream.
[16:02]  * lisandro is way lagged wrt testing upstream stuff (the same thing, the other way around)
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yofel: maxyz lisandro https://wingolog.org/archives/2015/11/09/embracing-conways-law
[16:13] <yofel> interesting indeed. Still doesn't change the fact that NIH and forking gets people angry at you.
[16:13] <yofel> Although, I would probably live a happier life if I would put an I DON'T CARE stamp on every occurence I see.
[16:19] <mck182___> shadeslayer: you hero
[16:22] <shadeslayer> mck182___: waiting on kscreenlocker to build
[16:22] <mck182___> much hero
[16:22] <mck182___> that will fix workspace too eh?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> idk
[16:23] <shadeslayer> my workspace is broken because it depends on a old libgps
[16:23] <shadeslayer> on Debian
[16:24] <shadeslayer> I'll bbl
[17:42] <soee> sgclark: ping
[17:46] <sgclark> soee: pong
[17:46] <soee> sgclark: ah nothing, just fund ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma- testing 5.4.3
[17:47] <sgclark> soee: thanks!
[17:56] <soee> sgclark: smooth upgrade
[18:01] <sgclark> soee: great :)
[18:01] <sgclark> I now have a functional desktop. Just a few more testers and I will move to backports.
[18:04] <soee> +1
[18:04] <mamarley> sgclark: Of Plasma 5.4.3 on Wily?  That is working great for me on all four systems I upgraded.
[18:04] <sgclark> mamarley: yes from staging?
[18:05] <mamarley> sgclark: Correct.
[18:05] <sgclark> excellent
[18:05] <sgclark> one more tester and I will move to backports.
[18:10] <soee> with 5.4.3 sddm background wallpaper has been fixed.changed i think
[18:10] <soee> now i have the new one from 5.4 not older
[18:11] <soee> sgclark: any idea if new applications bugfix release will be build for Wily ?
[18:12] <sgclark> soee starting the app bugfix right now
[18:12] <sgclark> for wily
[18:12] <soee> ah, cool. ping me when ready for test
[18:12] <sgclark> will do
[18:28] <yofel> the plasma packages have a wrong version :/
[18:29] <yofel> well, not important if they end up in backports
[18:29] <yofel> (not your fault scarlett, the relevant code was never finished)
[18:30] <soee> yofel: what version should it be?
[18:30] <yofel> -0ubuntu0.1~
[18:30] <yofel> will need fixing for the SRU, as well as the missing bug number. But that comes after I go the packageset fixed
[18:31] <soee> but it can be changed before move to backports ?
[18:31] <yofel> it technically doesn't matter, as the packages would be identical. It's just relevant for uploading to the archive
[18:32] <yofel> and people in the backports will eventually get plasma 5.5
[18:32] <yofel> *using the
[18:34] <soee> yofel: ok so we have 5.4.3 ready for Wily, sgclark working on apps, what about frameworks ?
[18:35] <yofel> dunno, the pad should say if someone is working on it
[18:52] <sgclark> o.1~ wait what? I have no clue what is going on here
[18:53] <sgclark> soee: no frameworks will no be done for a long time yet. It is going on Xenial which means merges need to be done
[18:53] <sgclark> yofel: I am out of the loop on this new versioning scheme
[18:53] <yofel> you ran the script in regular mode, not --sru. Hardly surprising as that was never implemented in staging-upload
[18:54] <yofel> it's not a new scheme, it's how we did the updates for the kde sc in the past. But that was before your time
[18:54] <sgclark> yeah I have never done that.
[18:57] <sgclark> perhaps something we can work on in Munich if the council ever responds to my request *cough*
[19:06] <yofel> I'll +1 as soon as I've talked to someone that knows how we actually get to our money..
[19:10] <yofel> sgclark: did you do the hotel reservation?
[19:10] <sgclark> yofel: yes, sorry will reply with reservations.
[19:11] <yofel> ok, np. Just wanted to make sure
[20:47] <sgclark> !testers
[20:48] <sgclark> I need one more tester for 5.4.3 please, official release now, I would like to get them in backports.
[20:48] <sgclark> wily
[20:48] <Riddell> sgclark: where is it?
[20:50] <sgclark> staging-plasma
[20:50] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[20:51] <Riddell> let me see if I can upgrade or if the qt packages I installed get in the way
[20:52] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks!
[20:53] <Riddell> instalando
[20:55] <sgclark> does that mean success? lol
[21:04] <clivejo> not yet
[21:04] <clivejo> installing
[21:30] <mparillo> I have a 15.10 VM up. Is it still staging-plasma?
[21:35] <clivejo> did Riddell's install die?
[21:39] <mparillo> 112 to upgrade, 4 to install for me.
[21:57] <Riddell> installed, let me reboot
[22:00]  * keithzg is trying to play along at home, but the 15.10 VM was updating super-slow since the ca.* mirror seems to be fairly glacial lately
[22:01] <genii> keithzg: You could try the yorku one if in Ontario
[22:02] <keithzg> genii: Naw, Alberta. Should probably just switch to us.*
[22:02] <genii> keithzg: Heh, maybe.
[22:03] <genii> keithzg: If you do want to try the York one, it's debian.yorku.ca
[22:04] <keithzg> genii: Cool cool. Huh, I don't see it listed on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[22:04] <keithzg> Although there's a UBC one.
[22:06] <genii> Shhhh
[22:06] <genii> ;)
[22:07] <genii> It's one they keep mostly for students but it's not widely published
[22:07] <mparillo> Rebooting, and I can see the new background behind SDDM.
[22:08] <valorie> Riddell: ping about Kubuntu funds
[22:08] <Riddell> hi valorie
[22:08] <valorie> how do we give out money?
[22:08] <valorie> hi
[22:08] <Riddell> valorie: well indeed, good question, I'm the one with access to the account and I can transfer to other UK accounts easily
[22:09] <Riddell> otherwise it's probably a case of paypal which has extra fees
[22:09] <Riddell> or cash in hand
[22:09] <valorie> paypal is fastest though -- esp. if scarlett is to come to Munich
[22:09] <mparillo> Dolphin and rekonq came up fine. Funny Dolphin in help about did not seem to have a version number, either for Dolphin or KDE
[22:09] <Riddell> yes
[22:09] <valorie> or you could just buy her ticket I guess
[22:09] <Riddell> yes that's the other way
[22:10] <Riddell> or we get a travel agent to do it but that has other fees
[22:10] <valorie> right
[22:10] <Riddell> probably it would work if I bought stuff
[22:10] <valorie> sgclark: about?
[22:10] <valorie> how about you choose your ticket and just have Riddell buy it?
[22:10] <sgclark> valorie: present
[22:10] <valorie> kewl
[22:10] <mparillo> I also do not get a KDE version in Konsole > Help > About KDE.
[22:11] <Riddell> sgclark: I like to use ebookers often
[22:11] <mparillo> Sorry, I have to go,
[22:11] <sgclark> Riddell: valorie sure, I sent the ticket I found to devel in my request
[22:11] <valorie> did you figure out how much the ticket would be? so the council can say yeah we want to spend this money
[22:11] <Riddell> mparillo: KDE has no version, we are a community :)
[22:11] <valorie> oops
[22:12] <sgclark> Riddell: get me whatever gets me to Munich, I trust you. But the less stops the better... Also On the way back I must have at least 2 hours on layover for customs.
[22:12] <Riddell> ah yes google flights, I always forget about that
[22:13] <sgclark> Riddell: valorie there is also the cost of the room. How do we do that?
[22:13] <Riddell> sgclark: did you book the room already?
[22:14] <sgclark> Riddell: yes, that was also in the request, albeight added today as a reply.
[22:14] <Riddell> sgclark: if you booked it already I can give you cash in hand in munich
[22:14] <Riddell> else paypal I guess
[22:14] <sgclark> Riddell: that would work, thank you
[22:14] <valorie> Riddell: we need to get the fund changed after this, I guess
[22:15] <Riddell> valorie: up to you, no need to
[22:15] <valorie> ok
[22:15] <valorie> sgclark: it is worthwhile to still ask the ubuntu fund, and if you get paid later, pay back the kub fund
[22:15] <valorie> if not, ok
[22:17] <Riddell> yes certainly
[22:17] <sgclark> sure, I did that for kde. np
[22:17] <valorie> excellent
[22:19] <sgclark> Riddell: just give me a number when all is done.
[22:22] <valorie> sorry, gotta make a run to goodwill
[22:36] <Riddell> sgclark: how's this? http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/sgclark.pdf
[22:36]  * sgclark looks
[22:37] <sgclark> Riddell: perfect
[22:38] <ahoneybun> so people are going somewhere
[22:39]  * ahoneybun would love working display configs
[22:39] <ahoneybun> everytime I make a change it restart X I think
[22:39] <ahoneybun> since it throws me to the login
[22:40] <soee> ahoneybun: can you test 5.4.3 ?
[22:40] <Riddell> sgclark: groovy booked
[22:40] <ahoneybun> where is it>
[22:40] <ahoneybun> soee: ?
[22:40] <Riddell> sgclark: e-mail forwarded
[22:40] <ahoneybun> anything that gets display things working
[22:40] <ahoneybun> I was in GNOME for a little on a USB
[22:41] <soee> ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=wily
[22:41] <soee> staging-plasma ppa
[22:42] <Riddell> sgclark: now I do have a spare sofa bed in my room at motel-one, I wouldn't mind being gentlemanly and taking that and you could have the bed bed, but then you'd have to put up with the room smelling of boy
[22:42] <ahoneybun> apt-add or add-apt>
[22:42] <wxl> add-apt
[22:42] <sgclark> ahoneybun: a little more background needed that display not working. You arent on CI are you? if so that is borked atm. And you need to use staging soee just linked.
[22:42] <soee> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[22:42] <ahoneybun> mm
[22:42] <sgclark> add-apt-repository
[22:43] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I'm on stock wily atm
[22:43] <sgclark> Riddell: that is fine. We can do that.
[22:43] <sgclark> ahoneybun: hmm ok. can you try the staging jjust to see if it fixes your issue?
[22:43] <ahoneybun> upgrading now sgclark
[22:43] <ahoneybun> I saw something fixed about displays in a blog post in 5.4.3
[22:46] <sgclark> Riddell: My husband has made me immune to the smell of boy =p . Just say the word to confirm and I will cancel my reservation.
[22:46] <Riddell> sgclark: go for it :)
[22:46] <sgclark> ok great
[22:48] <sgclark> Riddell: cancelled. You officially have a roomate.
[22:48] <Riddell> yay
[22:48] <sgclark> Thanks valorieand Riddell for making this happen.
[22:48] <sgclark> err valorie and Riddell. 
[22:48] <sgclark> will be a busy few days lol
[22:49] <Riddell> and not even a dr who special to keep us entertained this time
[22:49] <Riddell> although.. there should be a dr who normal episode!
[22:49] <ahoneybun> sgclark: funny thing about the display issue is that it was working before but then I turned off the other monitor and it will not stay on now lol
[22:49] <sgclark> Riddell: woot!
[22:49]  * ahoneybun wishes he had time off from work to go
[22:49] <Riddell> sgclark: do you have a debian wiki login? (they're faffy to get) https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich
[22:49] <sgclark> Riddell: no I don't
[22:50] <ahoneybun> though I can't code
[22:50] <Riddell> sgclark: added you
[22:50] <sgclark> ahoneybun: hmm. Not really sure on display issue. I have to ask, did you file a bug w/ KDE?
[22:50] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Start small ;)
[22:51] <sgclark> ahoneybun: well you were coming along with packaging, but then stopped :(
[22:51] <sgclark> Riddell: ty
[22:51] <ahoneybun> not yet sgclark tbh I'm not sure if it is X or KWin or something else
[22:51] <sgclark> ahoneybun: have you  looked through .xession_errors? that is a good place to start
[22:51] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I've been a little busy getting my LoCo back up and running
[22:52] <ahoneybun> sgclark:  in ~ ?
[22:52] <sgclark> ahoneybun: awesome! 
[22:52] <sgclark> ahoneybun: yes
[22:52] <ahoneybun> and got a Release Party together
[22:52] <ahoneybun> sgclark: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/10/27/15-10-release-party-result-success/
[22:53] <sgclark> very cool. wxl and I need to begin thinking about our planning lol
[22:53] <wxl> yup
[22:53] <wxl> meanwhile i gotta see if i can get meetup set up for ours
[22:53] <ahoneybun> sgclark: is that log from boot on or is it kept inbetween boots?
[22:54] <ahoneybun> mhall119 did it for us
[22:54] <sgclark> ahoneybun: it is session ahoneybun
[22:54] <sgclark> should be writing as you do things.
[22:55] <sgclark> gonna need journlctl -b for boot messages (I think)
[22:55] <ahoneybun> mm sgclark this is going to take awhile
[22:55] <sgclark> oh no hurry here, busy with applications
[22:56] <sgclark> ahoneybun: we can probably take this to email.
[22:56] <ahoneybun> I don't even know the name of what I'm looking for lol
[22:56] <sgclark> just paste me the log and email me a link
[22:57] <ahoneybun> your email or the list>
[22:57] <sgclark> my email. I can pick out the bits needed if we need outside help
[22:58] <ahoneybun> the damn paste site is lagging or my keyboard is off
[22:58] <ahoneybun> so slow to type
[23:00] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I can tell you from a lveUSB this does not happen in Ubuntu GNOME or Ubuntu
[23:00] <ahoneybun> brb or not, reboot
[23:04] <ahoneybun> well I booted
[23:04] <ahoneybun> but the issue is still there
[23:18] <sgclark> ok ahoneybunback to plan B and you send me logs so I can try and track down or create a bug report. It needs attention obviously.
[23:19] <sgclark> ahoneybun: ^
[23:20] <ahoneybun> sgclark: I did
[23:21] <sgclark> ok, I will take a look as soon as I can. thanks
[23:22] <wxl> sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports is what i want for the trusty updates?
[23:24] <sgclark> wxl: yes, sorry I am trying to improve my blog posts
[23:24] <wxl> ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa should be linked on https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs. i'd do it myself but i don't think i have access
[23:24] <sgclark> did better today haha
[23:24] <wxl> sgclark: no prob. did you see the one on the kde blog? it linked to the bugs for the kubuntu-ppa PROJECT, not the ppas themselves XD
[23:26] <sgclark> kde blog? 
[23:26] <wxl> i think that's right
[23:26] <wxl> lemme dig it up
[23:27] <wxl> sorry
[23:27] <wxl> kubuntu wire
[23:27] <sgclark> wxl: ahoneybun: that whole section looks to be pretty dated. though mostly right.
[23:27] <wxl> http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=419
[23:27] <ahoneybun> it is
[23:28] <wxl> oh i guess that's marco's doing not to point any fingers
[23:29] <sgclark> wxl: I see what he did. He put a link to instructions on how to add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports. 
[23:30] <wxl> oh i guess you're right
[23:30] <wxl> eye kan red
[23:30] <wxl> i mean
[23:30] <wxl> eye kan reed
[23:30] <sgclark> there are several methods including within Muon or commandline. Which could get repetitive to write. Though that link seems ubunutish, not sure it would have Muon instructions.
[23:30] <sgclark> lol
[23:31] <sgclark> nm eye can reed too, it is Kubuntu specific
[23:32] <wxl> i just saw "kubuntu ppa link" and went for it
[23:32] <sgclark> hehe
[23:33] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry was your update successful with the staging plasma?
[23:34] <sgclark> I am not counting ahoneybun upgrade fail because the issue was pre existing...
[23:35] <ahoneybun> it works so far
[23:35] <ahoneybun> not the monitor but everything elese
[23:35] <sgclark> ok great
[23:36] <ahoneybun> I count it booting to be a big plus lol
[23:36] <sgclark> lol that is a good start indeed
[23:44] <ahoneybun> sgclark: kwin being the issue would explain why it worked on Unity and GNOME since they use the same WM right/.'
[23:44] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:45] <sgclark> ahoneybun: afraid I know nothing about gnome or unity, so I cannot answer that.
[23:45] <ahoneybun> mm I think they do
[23:46] <ahoneybun> they would be using the same version of Xorg
[23:46] <sgclark> I thought unity was its own thing /shrug
[23:46] <ahoneybun> Metacity used to be the WM
[23:46] <ahoneybun> now it is something GNOME made
[23:46] <ahoneybun> again
[23:46]  * ahoneybun did like the simple nature of GNOME shell
[23:48] <ahoneybun> m
[23:49] <ahoneybun> I wonder what happens when I move to the intel card
[23:50] <ahoneybun> everything worked great at a Tech space near me
[23:50] <ahoneybun> I was playing Steam on aBIG tv
[23:52] <ahoneybun> and the issue is NVIDIA
[23:52] <ahoneybun> the intel works fine with the monitor
[23:52] <ahoneybun> really weird since it worked before