[00:03] <Fritigern> Oh, another symptom which I forgot to mention is that it would seem that the font settings are also affected. My fonts suddenly look normal again.
[00:10] <Fritigern> And one more symptom: single-click to open documents and/or folders would no longer work, It was "promoted" to double-click.
[00:27] <valorie> hmmm, I have neither appmenu-qt5 or appmenu-qt installed, according to apt-cache policy command in the cli
[02:02] <finetundra> I need to write a windows install iamge to a usb drive. How would I do that and can it be done without DD?
[02:40] <keithzg> finetundra: I've used WinUSB before to do that. I think http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu/381560#381560 is still current in terms of quick installation instructions.
[02:42] <keithzg> No idea if that still works with Windows 10 or such.
[02:42]  * keithzg only tends to install Windows in VMs these days
[02:42] <finetundra> well, it's worth a shot
[05:18] <keithzg> finetundra_: Did it work out in the end?
[06:56] <amichair> is it normal for dolphin to take up 21G of virtual memory (RES is ok)?
[09:36] <Cautious> Long term members of the Kubuntu community thoughts on stability of distro moving forward?
[09:36] <hateball> Cautious: I am sure someone will have opinions in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <Cautious> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:38] <rvk> Как обновить ubuntu до 14.10
[09:38] <rvk> ?
[09:41] <bolzo> hi all, do you know about a tool for a managing display configuration?. I have a laptop and i frequently switch from laptop monitor to  dual monitor and I get bored to configure them each time.
[09:49] <Smurphy> bolzo: I had written a script using randr to do that from the command line. Worked quite well, but not on PLasma 5.
[09:54] <bolzo> Smurphy: thx mate, but i'm too lazy to do that :D. Joking ... I have it too but it suck.
[09:58] <bolzo> Where display positions are saved?  I guess .local/share/kscreen/ but there are lot of guid name file there
[09:59] <rvk> how update distributive
[09:59] <rvk> &
[09:59] <rvk> ,
[09:59] <rvk> ?
[10:00] <rvk> my distr Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[10:00] <rvk> how update to 16.04
[10:00] <rvk> ?
[10:00] <rvk> sudo dist-upgrade -d no working
[10:01] <rvk> sudo dist-upgrade -d
[10:01] <rvk> no working
[10:01] <Smurphy> 16.04 does not exist yet, aka,it is not stable, hence not enabled.
[10:03] <rvk> than how update to 15.10
[10:03] <rvk> ?
[10:10] <Smurphy> You probably have the system setup to only update to LTS releases.
[10:10] <Smurphy> Change that to stable releases, and it should work.
[10:18] <rvk> ok
[10:30] <hateball> rvk: there is no way to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10
[10:31] <hateball> rvk: As you will need to upgrade to each release between, 14.10 -> 15.04, and they are EOL
[10:32] <hateball> rvk: And you use "do-release-upgrade -d", not dist-upgrade. Upgrading to 16.04 now will leave you with a broken system most likely
[10:33] <hateball> rvk: So the least painful way for you is to wait another few months, then upgrade to 16.04 using the regular updater (do-release-upgrade)
[11:08] <hazamonzo> Flavour country
[11:29] <rvk> hateball: when i use "do-release-upgrade -d"  i get "Detected an insoluble problem when calculating the upgrade". and stoped
[11:34] <hateball> rvk: perhaps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1511903 ? anyhow, unreleased version help goes in #ubuntu+1
[11:35] <rvk> ubottu: then whow me update to next version whis 14,04
[11:36] <rvk> hateball:  then whow me update to next version whis 14,04
[11:37] <hateball> rvk: I already told you, wait for 16.04 to be released next april. Then upgrade to that.
[11:37] <rvk> thanks
[11:37] <rvk> hateball: thanks
[11:38] <hateball> Either you stick to LTS releases every 2 years, or you keep updating every 6 months. If you fall inbetween... it's not so much fun
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:09] <jubo2> I need to make simple, good-looking .html page
[13:09] <jubo2> any suggestions for 'sudo apt install'
[13:10] <jubo2> I remember still the day I discovered Dreamweaver coz I had just explained my idea of HTML editor that shows WYSIWYG in code and code in HTML in 2 views just the previous night
[13:11] <jubo2> and then I found an HTML editor (Dreamweaver 1.0) that does exactly that
[13:12] <jubo2> woops.. WYSIWYG in code and code in WYSIWYG for optimal website maker mental comfort and ease of learning
[13:12] <jubo2> hey...
[13:12] <jubo2> maybe I try out the Myon explorer or whatevs it called
[13:16] <Fragemensch> Hi, I have a problem with my Distribution Upgrade. At about 73% or so of being done, the window turned mostly gray and there does not seem to be any activity anymore. I am unsure how to proceed from here. Can anyone help me?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> in the gui or the terminal, Fragemensch
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:18] <Fragemensch> the GUI, I barely know how to use terminal tbh
[13:18] <jubo2> Fragemensch: Ja.. dass ist möglich sie Hilfe können haben
[13:18] <Fragemensch> english is fine
[13:18] <jubo2> Me too. I don't even speak more then touristik Deutsch
[13:20] <BluesKaj> jubo2, this is an English Kubuntu support chat, go show off your linguistics in the appropriate chts
[13:20] <jubo2> BluesKaj: any suggestion on making a single, good-looking .html page tool?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, which kubuntu version?
[13:21] <Fragemensch> p sure it was 15.04 it tried to upgrade to
[13:22] <Fragemensch> i myself am on Trusty Tahr still
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, from 14.10?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, you have to do a clean install
[13:22] <Fragemensch> Trusty Tahr is 14.04 I believe.
[13:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:23] <BluesKaj> 15.04 is not LTS
[13:24] <Fragemensch> Well, I just followed the instructions on the kubuntu website, started up muon update manager and clicked the button.
[13:29] <Fragemensch> So can I safely / should I kill the Distribution Upgrade window at any time?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, which ubuntu websiate?
[13:29] <Fragemensch> kubuntu.org
[13:31] <hateball> Fragemensch: do you have a Details button in the gui?
[13:32] <hateball> Fragemensch: It is possible the upgrader has halted and prompted you about something, usually where to re-install grub, or to remove packages
[13:32] <hateball> There should be a button to display the terminal
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, those just general instructions, the upgrade manager should not show any LTS upgrades yet , there aren't any
[13:32] <Fragemensch> There was. It's all gray now.
[13:32] <JunkHunk> hello yesterday I configured conky in kubuntu trusty and somehow some snapshots were taken and now every time I login the system displays with okular those three snapshots...does anyone know why is this happening and whether is fix?
[13:33] <Fragemensch> hateball: Sorry, was adressing you: Yes, there was terminal button, but as the rest of the window except the frame it'S all gray now.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, delete the snapshots in your /home dir
[13:34] <hateball> JunkHunk: It sounds like you saved the session and are restoring it on login. Perhaps I am not understanding your question
[13:34] <hateball> That would cause the applications to restart
[13:34] <JunkHunk> the snapshots are called sys argparse and subprocess
[13:35] <hateball> Fragemensch: oh I didnt see you tried to upgrade from 14.04. There is no supported upgrade path from 14.04 to 15.10 as the releases in between are EOL
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, if the gui just stopped then most likely the sources to make changes to your system aren't available
[13:35] <hateball> It has probably halted trying to fetch packages from the Utopic repo or some such
[13:36] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:36] <Fragemensch> it was an upgrade to 15.04 I believe, that was what muon upgrade manager suggested to me.
[13:36] <JunkHunk> I can see in those my home folder when I was renaming a file...creating a new folder and editing conky's config file
[13:36] <hateball> The only upgrade a 14.04 should offer if you tell it to search for non-LTS is 14.10. And then you would have a non-upgradable system
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, the muon manager is incorrcect , must be a bug
[13:37] <JunkHunk> and those 'snapshots' are not in my home directory
[13:37] <Fragemensch> At the moment I am downloading the 15.10 iso. Can I safely kill the Distribution Upgrade window of muon upgrade manager and then just try to continue with the iso?
[13:37] <JunkHunk> no idea how and where they appeared
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, yes I think so, I doubt any changes were made to your system
[13:38] <Fragemensch> Well, it was already installing stuff (past the unpacking stage)
[13:38] <hateball> Then you may have a problem
[13:39] <hateball> Fragemensch: Do you keep /home on a separate partition? If so you could do a fresh install but keep /home intact
[13:39] <BluesKaj> usually saved snapshots are located in /home/user
[13:39] <hateball> I'm not sure what type of "snapshot" would open in Okular
[13:41] <Fragemensch> hateball: I am not sure, tbh.
[13:47] <JunkHunk> I run this script: http://www.overclock.net/t/1400247/nvidia-info-in-conky-help/20
[13:48] <JunkHunk> then the mouse turned into a cross for a while...
[13:49] <JunkHunk> I was kind of lazy but I wanted to edit conky config file...I found that thread where they were using nvidia-smi with conky but they did it adding a python script because they needed nvidia-smi to show info from two cards and not just one in conky...
[13:50] <JunkHunk> It wasnt exactly my case because I only have one card but I felt like trying
[13:51] <JunkHunk> I copied the script in a new folder called Python_Scripts in my home folder...
[13:51] <JunkHunk> made it executable
[13:51] <JunkHunk> and run
[13:51] <JunkHunk> I could see the conky they programmed...
[13:53] <JunkHunk> but it was working only partly...as they monitored their specific hardware different from mine...
[13:53] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, is there question in there somewhere?
[13:54] <JunkHunk> later on I upgraded my graphics driver deleted that python script and used some of the conky config file lines to get mine working
[13:54] <JunkHunk> no question
[13:55] <JunkHunk> these are clues to find out what might had happened to my system that it is making it display three snapshots I didnt take
[13:55] <JunkHunk> each time I login
[13:55] <JunkHunk> sys subprocess and argparse
[13:56] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, maybe the folks at #conky can help
[13:56] <JunkHunk> or python
[13:56] <BluesKaj> but just putting thoughts in here is just spamming the chat
[13:57] <JunkHunk> I f you need help you need to give info
[13:57] <JunkHunk> sorry anyway
[13:58] <BluesKaj> you haven't asked a question
[13:59] <Fragemensch> hateball: It seems to be the case that I am [keeping /home on a separate partition]. So I hope I can fix this with a clean install. Right now downloading the 15.10 iso, then will burn it and install from there. Any advice on what to do with the frozen 15.04 upgrade window/process presumably broken?
[14:05] <hateball> Fragemensch: so it's 15.04 now?
[14:06] <hateball> Fragemensch: you said both 15.04 and also trusty (14.04) so it isnt easy to know
[14:07] <Fragemensch> I was on 14.04. System Settings now tells me 15.04. But that installation is likely incomplete/broken.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Fragemensch, burn the iso, but leave the upgrade process open for now until you decide to reboot into the media wit 15.10 iso on  it.  Also install the OS to your / partiton and set themountoint as /home for your /home partition using manual partitoning during the installation
[14:13] <BluesKaj> bbl
[14:26] <Fragemensch> hateball: sorry, missed adressing again. I was on 14.04. System Settings now tells me 15.04. But that installation is likely incomplete/broken.
[14:31] <hateball> Fragemensch: If you have separate /home, I would do what BluesKaj said
[14:31] <hateball> Sort out a fresh boot-media before you reboot, then reinstall keeping /home
[14:32] <Fragemensch> hateball: Okay, thank you.
[15:12] <Hudsonkem> when google chrome call dolphin, its come without color theme, how to change it to my own theme?
[16:20] <armin_> hi, i upgraded kubuntu to 15.10 from 14.10. Everthing is ok, however I'm used to have starters always visible in the control bar. Now I start e.g. konsole and the starter hides.
[16:21] <armin_> is there a way to configure the behaviour to not hide starters?
[16:47] <svend-ev> Good morning
[17:00] <Khaotic> plasma is so fucked up on 15.10
[17:00] <clivejo> Khaotic: how so?
[17:00] <Khaotic> i have issues when bringing my laptop back from sleep, and when i use dual monitors
[17:01] <Khaotic> it always crashes
[17:01]  * clivejo likes the weather widget :)
[17:01] <clivejo> now I can see its raining without looking outside!
[17:01] <Khaotic> lol
[17:02] <Unit193> No cursing please, though.
[17:02] <Khaotic> sorry
[17:02]  * clivejo wonders when replying to SMS will be introduced in KDE Connect
[17:02] <Khaotic> ^
[17:03] <Khaotic> oh and kde connect is glitchy for me
[17:03] <Khaotic> i have it turned off on my phone and computer, yet i still get the notifications
[17:03] <clivejo> hummm that sounds odd
[17:04] <clivejo> you might have a haunted Kubuntu instll
[17:04] <clivejo> I hear those are nasty
[17:05] <Khaotic> ugh
[17:05] <Khaotic> i reinstalled twice...
[17:06] <clivejo> I was going to reply to armin_ before they left.  To drag the icon from the KickOff menu onto the Task Manager bar and it would stay there when launched
[17:06] <clivejo> I done it on my own desktop and now I cant get rid of it!
[17:07] <clivejo> anyone know how I remove it?
[17:16] <mparillo> An icon on your desktop or in your task manager bar?
[19:59] <smoovep> Hello..
[19:59] <smoovep> my first time irc'ing ..
[20:00] <soee> hiho smoovep
[20:00] <smoovep> hey..
[20:00] <smoovep> where you from soee? how you end up in kubuntu?
[20:24] <nescius> hello
[20:25] <soee> hiho nescius
[20:25] <nescius> anyone with qhd screens already?
[20:25] <nescius> i think i am the first one ever who installed linux on one of those
[20:26] <nescius> how to make icons bigger?
[20:26] <nescius> it was possible once but it seems broken now
[20:26] <aramiscd> ctrl and scroll
[20:26] <nescius> aramiscd: no
[20:26] <aramiscd> works here
[20:26] <nescius> that only works in dolphin's file display
[20:26] <aramiscd> right
[20:27] <nescius> i mean menu, desktop, everything
[20:27] <nescius> I was hoping that eventually some devs would be getting those screens..
[20:27] <nescius> not yet as it seems
[20:29] <aramiscd> systemsettings > symbols > ...
[20:29] <nescius> https://community.kde.org/KDE/High-dpi_issues ok, i was wrong
[20:32] <nescius> symbols? is that icons?
[20:33] <nescius> i tried to start the LC_ALL=en_US systemsettings5 but all entries are still in czech, except for menu which is in english
[20:42] <nescius> where to report kubuntu specific bugs with upgrade? ksyscoca had issues starting, untill deletion of ~/.cache i could not connect to internet, I was really furrious
[20:43] <nescius> maybe it should be tested before release ..? Ill try to help rather than bitching here.. next time :~(
[20:44] <aramiscd> yeah, maybe it's icons. sorry, i have it in german here.
[20:44] <genii> If you file a bug, probably it would be for the package ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[20:47] <nescius> aramiscd: thats the thing which is broken, I already reported it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355156
[20:54] <nescius> ha! icons are the only issue, even firefox plays nice with dpi set to 200, yeah!
[21:18] <nescius> hmm, maybe I am lucky.. kde plasma 5.4 release notes: Much improved high DPI support
[21:28] <daum> i'm on 14.04 and just did some package upgrades today (not 100% sure what, just got a notice) and have restarted since, but been noticing problems like : http://i.imgur.com/nucOzmQ.png where the windows don't seem to be properly filling in?  anyone else having a similar issue?
[21:37] <RY> ls
[21:37] <RY> Explain to me why Kubuntu is better than a other KDE distro
[21:38] <Pici> access denied.
[21:38] <Pici> Not being a KDE user myself, I'd say that because it's backed by the Ubuntu software repositories.
[21:38] <bprompt> daum:    I'd think is a videocard drivers issue, you could try maybe by deleting or moving any .conf under /etc/X11/ folder
[21:39] <bprompt> RY:    "better" is relative, the "best" shirt for you, is probably hated by your sister, so...  depends
[21:40] <daum> bprompt, hm just a few .configs in that folder but no confs
[21:40] <bprompt> RY:    so... unless we know what you want in a distribution or OS, then we dunn if it's "better" for y ou
[21:40] <RY> Alright, that I can understand. Let's say I'm sick of Unity 15.10, and really love the design of Plasma 5.4
[21:41] <RY> I've considered arch, but not for my work machine, so that's down the road.
[21:41] <RY> Not into the idea of being "Bleeding Edge"
[21:41] <RY> And really just looking for that visually looks appealing or cohesive while having functionality.
[21:42] <RY> I had tried Elementary OS, had found it too simple
[21:42] <bprompt> RY:    I assume you're referring to Unity running in Ubuntu, kubuntu is still ubuntu, no any different than what Unity runs on, it's just a different Desktop Manager and also a window manager, so, you're talking more about desktop managers and window managers mostly, no distribution per se
[21:42] <RY> Truth be told, I do need a Mac. But, I want to embrace Linux and cannot afford a mac so I'm here.
[21:43] <keithzg> Well, give Kubuntu 15.10 a shot! Best way to find out if it'll work for you is to try it :)
[21:43] <RY> I'm aware of DE / WM, hence I was asking since I'm only aware of Ubuntu / Debian what other distrobutios people enjoy.
[21:43] <bprompt> daum:    check the backports I'd say, for any video drivers, may just be the session also if you haven't rebooted  yet, could also be kwin
[21:43] <keithzg> If you already have Ubuntu 15.10 installed you can even just install the kubuntu-desktop package and try it out fairly immediately.
[21:43] <RY> And I will <keithzg>, I tried a live boot the other night and it crashed many times, but that's a random occurance.
[21:43] <RY> Tried,
[21:43] <RY> Mixing kubuntu desktop with unity broke half the packages.
[21:44] <daum> bprompt, i did reboot fully after the updates.  it did try to restore my session from my previous one once i logged in though
[21:44] <daum> bprompt, what do you mean by backports?
[21:44] <Pici> !backports
[21:44] <bprompt> daum:    backport repositories, check your sources, they're usually no included, but you can add them as Sources
[21:45] <bprompt> daum:    they're not hmm included as default repositories, rather, a backport is kinda a hotfix issued for some things
[21:46] <RY> I understand
[21:47] <RY> Random question, do you find Kubuntu is better in battery life compared to Ubuntu
[21:48] <bprompt> RY:    shouldn't, Unity is just a DM and kubuntu comes with KDE DM, just two DM's, is all, I've used to run SuSE with gnome as well as kde, and now and then switch between the two, but I've mainly run kde, since I run many kde apps, and yes, kde apps can be a bit more GUIsh than other frameworks, keeping in mind that kde also relies on QT framework, and QT is also very GUIsh, QT(quantum technologies) bought and owned by Nokia
[21:48] <lordievader> RY: Probably not very different.
[21:49] <bprompt> RY:   electricity consumption, I don't think they differ at all, if any it'd be very little
[21:49] <RY> Thanks for clarifying that, I thought so considering that even in resources (of a live boot) Unity8 and Plasma 5.4 both push the desktop running 4k resolution with 1.5gb of ram
[21:50] <RY> It is settled then, is there a way to upgrade from Ubuntu to Kubuntu aside from wipe / install desktop over Unity?
[21:51] <bprompt> RY:   you don't have to, if you are running Ubuntu already, just install the kde-desktop package
[21:51] <RY> But it always breaks the packages. Am I doing something wrong? I've installed the PPA for kubuntu
[21:51] <RY> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <bprompt> it will install KWIN(kde window manager), that runs the plasma and plasmoids, and you'd be given the choice to which one to log with, session wise, at login screen
[21:52] <RY> I will look more into this then, the only thing I'll miss from Unity is global menu
[21:53] <bprompt> global menu?   kwin has that
[21:53] <RY> in Plasma 4, Plasma 5 lacks a global menu because the application needs to be translated to QT if I recall
[21:53] <bprompt> not even sure what global menu is, but it shows all apps though :)
[21:54] <RY> Ah, I'm talking about the task bar which holds (traditionally : file, view, etc) at the very top of each window. But, this one is for every window and is found on top status bar
[21:55] <bprompt> hmmm
[21:55] <bprompt> I've run Unity, I don't recall seeing that in the webbrowser
[21:56] <bprompt> or the office packages
[21:57] <RY> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--K0LKEXgH--/17eblpbylxuj9jpg.jpg  <- top left
[21:57] <bprompt> RY:    but either way, if you want to run kde apps, you don't need to use kwin,  you can still run Unity WM and run your kde apps :), only difference being, that kwin can do plasmoids, and to use plasmoids, you'd need kwin
[21:58] <RY> That's good to know actually, if I wanted to run Kate or K Develop it wouldn't be a problem then?
[21:59] <bprompt> RY:    nope, I run kubuntu, but I don't run kwin, I use LXDE, and use many kde apps
[21:59] <keithzg> RY: Yup, all applications *should* work fine regardless of what DE you run them in.
[22:00] <RY> Good to know
[22:00] <RY> Thanks
[22:00] <mparillo> keithzg: For some with sharp eyes, there are questions about theming.
[22:00] <bprompt> RY:   as far as "that" menu, well, just run dolphin for that :P, that's just Unity taskbar including that menu there, which isn't of much use if you're reading webpages or doing an Excel file  btw, and pretty sure you can do that in Kwin's taskbar anyway, with either a plasmoid pin to the taskbar, or  just as an added element to it
[22:01] <RY> Do explain <bprompt>
[22:01] <bprompt> RY:    kwin's taskbar is customizable at some extent
[22:01] <bprompt> just like Unity's I'm sure
[22:02] <keithzg> mparillo: Well sure. One of the reasons I avoid Firefox :P Although for most applications you can pick equivalent GTK and KDE/Qt themes, or at least could back in the day. Much of the theme side isn't being maintained these days, eh?
[22:02] <bprompt> RY:   but why would you want that "file manager" 's menu visible at all times on any app that has no use for it?
[22:03] <RY> I started on OSX almost a decade ago, It's what I know.
[22:05] <bprompt> RY:   back in SuSE, I used to run a few window managers, I ran Enlightment, nice window manager, no taskbar, just docks, it had a nice macOSX theme, with a static "finder" menu static atop for any window, and changing entries, depending on the window :)
[22:06] <RY> Noted
[22:07] <bprompt> RY:    but sounds to me, that the issue is not Ubuntu itself, so much as theming and functionality, and for that, you can just get a window manager  you like, plenty available, and see if it has a good theme
[22:10] <bprompt> RY:    http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/macbuntu-makes-your-linux-desktop-look-like-mac-os-x/    <-- not sure if it may work with plasma5, but you could check about
[22:31] <random_guy1654> hi i want to ask if there is a known bug for kwin_x11 because mine randomly suspends
[23:03]  * keithzg really hates the Mac-style menu-at-the-top scheme, since it really stops making sense very quickly when you have more than one monitor . . .
[23:20] <soee> ?