[00:27] <ianorlin>  iynque: that might be a bug but not very important
[00:29] <iynque> Yes, I saw a bug report online with the same spelling. I dunno what to do with the information though (because I’m a noob).
[00:29] <iynque> No idea what the origin is or where to fix it :B
[00:29] <iynque> (or how to find out)
[04:22] <vn> heya, hesitating between lubuntu, ubuntu and kali2 because of steam, hows steam setup doing on lubuntu lately?
[04:44] <ianorlin> vn it is the same as regular ubuntu. steam may need more gpu power than some old hardware, desktop environment does not matter that much for performance of gaming
[05:05] <vn> ianorlin: ok thanks, thought it may matter on setup, will try!
[05:08] <ianorlin> I am not sure you can install steam from lubuntu software center itself I know it is if you install the software-center package
[05:08] <ianorlin> if you use the .deb from valves site lubuntu installed it with gedbi last time I treid it
[09:30] <qzero> hi all
[12:25] <Ubik_> anyone here?
[12:26] <redwolf> yes :)
[12:26] <Ubik_> cool
[12:26] <Ubik_> i made a persistent usb with version 15.10 and ran update manager
[12:26] <Ubik_> and now I have a system error pop up bur everything runs fine
[12:27] <Ubik_> is it a weird idea to update a live usb?
[12:27] <redwolf> the bug report dialog?
[12:27] <Ubik_> there was a linux image (or so...) install
[12:27] <redwolf> yes, maybe the new kernel
[12:28] <Ubik_> probably it says system error
[12:28] <Ubik_> probably,
[12:28] <Ubik_> and possbility to report
[12:28] <redwolf> a persistent system should work the same way a disk installed one
[12:29] <Ubik_> ah ok    , was wondring
[12:29] <Ubik_> wondering
[12:29] <redwolf> I got errors to report sometimes, but that's nothing really serious unless you see real glitches that makes you unable to work
[12:29] <redwolf> so don't worry :)
[12:29] <redwolf> the apport app looks for every single little error it finds :)
[12:30] <Ubik_> ok, no it runs perfectly, even sound that  had to force reload works straight
[12:30] <redwolf> nice :=
[12:30] <redwolf> :)
[12:31] <Ubik_> do u think it is safe to install from this live disk?
[12:32] <redwolf> yes, I did it a couple times
[12:33] <Ubik_> and do u know when version 16.xx lts will be available?
[12:33] <redwolf> the version numbers are the dates. so 16.04 means it will be released in April 2016
[12:33] <Ubik_> OK glad to learn that!
[12:34] <redwolf> :)
[12:34] <Ubik_> do update manager upgrade the distro?
[12:35] <redwolf> yes, when the new release is ready you'll get a message allowing you to upgrade your whole system
[12:35] <Ubik_> will that be a choice?  i guess so
[12:36] <redwolf> yes, you can postpone it, ignore it if you want
[12:36] <Ubik_> ok, thx for infos, I like the simplicity of lubuntu desktop
[12:36] <redwolf> we're glad you like it :)
[19:39] <epictetus> hiya.   I just installed lubuntu on a laptop with an EMMC ssd, tried to setup duel boot, it just boots straight into windows -- it's a new (UEFI) laptop, i booted into rescue mode and reinstalled grub to /dev/emmcblk0 and same thing, it just boots straight into windows
[19:40] <epictetus> i did notice some /dev/emmcblk0boot0 etc devices, not sure what those are / if it's some EFI thing
[19:40] <epictetus> also the BIOS had options "boot of emmc" and "Windows boot loader", both boot options seem to do the same thing
[19:41] <redwolf> so it's a UEFI computer?
[19:41] <redwolf> have you used the UEFI (100mb) partition as a uefiboot partition?
[19:42] <epictetus> i mounted it in my rescue environment as /boot/efi I think
[19:42] <epictetus> while reinstalling grub
[19:42] <epictetus> inside the chroot
[19:43] <redwolf> have you prepared your BIOS? tried with legacy support?
[19:44] <redwolf> or at least deactivating secure boot? that usually locks down the grub load and jumps into Windows
[19:45] <epictetus> ooh I just disabled secure boot
[19:45] <epictetus> maybe secure boot is part of it
[19:45] <epictetus> nope hmm. Inside the UEFI folder I def see a "ubuntu" folder
[19:45] <redwolf> it was for me
[19:46] <epictetus> maybe I need to switch to legacy although it wouldnt boot off the usb lubuntu installer sick in legacy mode
[19:47] <redwolf> or just deactivating the secure boot. switching to legacy while installing and reactivating it after the setup process may lock it as well
[19:48] <redwolf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/582712/full-lubuntu-installation-on-usb-uefi-capable
[19:48] <epictetus> maybe i should just get rid of the stupid win10 partition I just thought "hmm it might come in handy some day"
[19:48] <redwolf> hah! I did that finally
[19:49] <epictetus> i was really really good with partition/bios/boot loader stuff in the LILO / grub 1.0 etc BIOS days but now this UEFI stuff seems like a lot more complicated
[19:50] <epictetus> ooooh figured it out kinda sorta not really. Once I "approved" the UEFI entries as secure now I can pick those, yay
[19:50] <redwolf> yyup
[20:07] <joseph> hello
[20:08] <Guest10575> I was wanting to know why I can't install programs on my computer
[20:08] <Guest10575> I have the last verson from last year
[20:10] <redwolf> Guest10575, are you using the Software Center?
[20:10] <Guest10575> yes
[20:11] <redwolf> and they download?
[20:11] <Guest10575> no
[20:11] <redwolf> what error do you get?
[20:11] <epictetus> doh now sound doesn't work whoops hehe.
[20:12] <epictetus> noticing that alsamixer calls the card "HDA Intel PCH" and the chip "Intel Braswell HDMI" i wonder if it is only seeing the HDMI audio and not the main audio
[20:12] <epictetus> (it's some intel onboard thing)
[20:12] <Guest10575> i get the error it wants to download files from untrusted sources
[20:13] <redwolf> untrusted? have you added additional PPAs / sources?
[20:14] <Guest10575> do not know where to find that
[20:14] <Guest10575> I have tryed to use terminal it acts like it is dowloading but it does not
[20:14] <redwolf> maybe you should change your download server. go to Software Properties (in System menu) and choose a closer server. refresh and it should fix it
[20:16] <Guest10575> it is set on united states
[20:16] <redwolf> make it search for the fastest one and refresh
[20:16] <redwolf> sorry, I have to leave for a while
[20:17] <Guest10575> ah ok, how do I do that
[20:18] <redwolf> in software properties, search for the sources / servers tab
[20:19] <redwolf> or in the main tab, "Download from" combobox
[20:19] <redwolf> tab "Ubuntu software"
[20:20] <Guest10575> ah ok thanks
[20:21] <epictetus> crap, so it works on headphones but not on the speakers. whoops
[20:26] <phillw> hi Guest10575
[20:27] <Guest10575> hi
[20:28] <phillw> can you briefly explain to me the issue(s) you are having with the software centre. I've only had a prod to come and assist so do not know the issue(s) you are having.
[20:30] <Guest10575> it was just saying that some of the files are coming from untrusted sources and then it would not download
[20:31] <Guest10575> It would not update any of the files to get new products on the softwhere center
[20:31] <phillw> Guest10575: you need to add the security key for some ppa's...
[20:31] <Guest10575> ah
[20:31] <Guest10575> how do you do that
[20:33] <phillw> Guest10575: the quickest way to have LSC reset itself and re-configure is to launch lxterminal and issue
[20:33] <phillw> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lubuntu-software-center
[20:34] <phillw> then let me know what untrusted source you are trying to add.
[20:34] <phillw> wb redwolf
[20:35] <redwolf> :)
[20:37] <Guest10575> it is showing up on all the things I want to download
[20:37] <Guest10575> gimp
[20:37] <phillw> redwolf: ^^ how to reset LSC, jorn told me about it as part of bug 1467517
[20:37] <redwolf> yes, sometimes in 15.10
[20:38] <phillw> Guest10575: are you happy with the ability to install now. I was not familiar of it affecting a standard desktop system
[20:39] <phillw> Guest10575: if you gimp install goes okay, please do say on here. I can then update the bug.
[20:40] <Guest10575> i am using 14.10
[20:40] <phillw> *your*
[20:40] <Guest10575> I am not at the computer right now
[20:42] <phillw> Guest10575: ahh, 14.10 is no longer supported... I do reccommend that you create a seperate /home are and use 15.10... You can update from 14.10 to 15.04, but get that done before 15.04 goes End of Life as well.
[21:03] <Langley> Hey, anyone awake?
[21:03] <redwolf> yes :)
[21:04] <Langley> It seems like all Ubuntu based distros occationally freezes on my system... any ideas?
[21:04] <redwolf> all of them?!
[21:05] <Langley> Every single one I've tried
[21:05] <Langley> Actually, Debian based. Mint Debian did it too
[21:05] <redwolf> what computer do you have?
[21:05] <Langley> Normal AMD desktop
[21:05] <redwolf> and what do you mean with "freezing"?
[21:05] <Langley> Becomes completely unresponsive randomly
[21:06] <Langley> In some distros I can sometimes REISUB, but only rarely
[21:06] <redwolf> have you tried an RPM distro just to compare?
[21:06] <redwolf> Suse, Fedora...
[21:07] <Langley> All those are fine
[21:07] <Langley> Opensuse was at least
[21:08] <redwolf> odd, I have plenty AMD chips here now. and my last computers were AMD K7 and K8. worked smooth
[21:09] <Langley> Yeah I'm stumped... it's really annoying since most Ubuntu distros are pretty nice
[21:09] <redwolf> well, I don't know what to say, if Debian and all DEB distros fail you should consider using another kind
[21:10] <Langley> Yeah I guess... Until I get a new computer in 10 years or so
[21:10] <redwolf> O.O
[21:11] <redwolf> it will work in the Raspberry Pi2 so.. :)
[21:11] <Langley> What will?
[21:11] <redwolf> Ubuntu and Lubuntu
[21:11] <Langley> Not powerful enough...
[21:12] <redwolf> but nice! :D
[21:14] <Langley> But I need power... Unlimited power
[21:17] <redwolf> O.O
[21:17] <redwolf> are you going to build a company or something? :)
[21:18] <Langley> Nah probably not. I don't even know if I would dare running linux in a company