| pitti | Good morning | 05:09 |
|---|---|---|
| didrocks | good morning | 06:24 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? pas plus malade ? | 06:42 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, plus malade ! et toi ? tu as pu rentrer ? ça semblait difficile… | 06:46 |
| pitti | didrocks: oui, j'étais en retard un jour; deux vols ont été annulé, mais mon vrai vol était bien | 06:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: j'ai pris un jour de vacance hier pour me reposer | 06:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: tu as bien eu raison ! :) | 06:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: comment est Austin ? | 06:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: en fait c'était bon ! cette fois on a été au milieu de ville; beaucoup de bars, restaurants etc. près d'hôtel | 06:55 |
| pitti | didrocks: jeudi on a vu "V for Vendetta" -- c'était le vrai jour, 5 novembre | 06:56 |
| pitti | et courir à rive de Colorado est bien aussi, j'ai y couru deux fois | 06:58 |
| pitti | les autres matins il y avait du brouillard, on ne peux rien voir | 06:58 |
| pitti | ("on ne peux voir rien" ?) | 06:59 |
| didrocks | cool que vous ayez eu un sprint à un endroit sympa :) | 06:59 |
| pitti | err, "on ne peux pas voir rien"? | 06:59 |
| didrocks | "on ne peut rien voir" | 06:59 |
| pitti | ah, prèsque :) | 06:59 |
| didrocks | oui, presque :-) | 06:59 |
| pitti | uh, "près de.." vs "presque", sans l'accent? | 07:00 |
| didrocks | es -> "èss" en terme de son | 07:00 |
| didrocks | donc oui, pas d'accent | 07:00 |
| didrocks | for "près", you don't pronounce the final "s", I guess that's why you need the accent for the "è" sound | 07:01 |
| larsu | good morning! | 08:12 |
| didrocks | morning larsu :) | 08:13 |
| larsu | hi didrocks :) How are you? | 08:13 |
| Trevinho | Morning | 08:13 |
| Trevinho | Hi larsu, didrocks! | 08:14 |
| didrocks | hey hey Trevinho! | 08:14 |
| didrocks | larsu: good, thanks! how are you? | 08:14 |
| larsu | morning Trevinho! | 08:14 |
| larsu | didrocks: good thanks! | 08:14 |
| * larsu goes to get some breakfast | 08:15 | |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:30 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? | 08:36 |
| pitti | hey larsu! | 08:36 |
| pitti | morning Trevinho | 08:36 |
| pitti | it's good to be back :) | 08:37 |
| seb128 | salut pitti, ça va bien, et toi ? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, tu as réussi à rentrer en Allemagne ? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | I read your g+ post about your rebooked flight cancelled as well | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, j'ai rentré bien dimanche | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: j'ai pris un jour de vacance hier pour me reposer | 08:42 |
| seb128 | tu as bien fait | 08:43 |
| seb128 | comment va ton jetlag ? | 08:43 |
| pitti | larsu: as-tu été à systemd.conf ? | 08:43 |
| pitti | seb128: en fait bien ! j'ai me levé à 3h hier, mais ce matin à 6h; donc je suis retour à la normale | 08:44 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:44 |
| pitti | pas d'ubuflu, qui aide :) | 08:45 |
| * pitti pats sil2100 | 08:45 | |
| larsu | morning pitti! | 08:46 |
| larsu | back home? | 08:46 |
| larsu | the conference was great! Lots of nice people and good talks | 08:47 |
| larsu | I liked yours especialy ;) | 08:47 |
| larsu | morning seb128! | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hey larsu! | 08:47 |
| larsu | how are you? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | doing good :-) | 08:53 |
| seb128 | what about you? | 08:53 |
| larsu | great thanks! Just got myself some breakfast :) | 08:54 |
| * larsu should make tea to go wit hit | 08:54 | |
| larsu | *with it | 08:54 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:58 |
| * seb128 is drinking coffee | 08:58 | |
| willcooke | morning | 09:01 |
| larsu | morning willcooke | 09:02 |
| willcooke | hey larsu - I've asked for the +1 from design for those theme changes | 09:02 |
| larsu | I saw | 09:02 |
| larsu | no reply yet? | 09:02 |
| willcooke | I'm meeting with John in an hour or so | 09:03 |
| willcooke | I tweak the gtk2 theme as well for the scrollbar trough | 09:03 |
| willcooke | http://imgur.com/a/RHfU7 | 09:03 |
| Laney | hey hey | 09:03 |
| willcooke | after at the top, before at the bottom | 09:03 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 09:03 |
| willcooke | strangely it looks quite different on a machine than a screenshot | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:04 |
| larsu | willcooke: darker trough? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | how is u.k today? | 09:04 |
| larsu | morning Laney | 09:04 |
| willcooke | larsu, yeah | 09:04 |
| willcooke | seb128, warm and windy :) | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 09:04 |
| larsu | willcooke: hehe - does look better I think | 09:04 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 09:05 |
| willcooke | larsu, full screen the old is really hard to spot the scrollbar in the trough IMO | 09:05 |
| willcooke | anyways - I think John will be fine with it | 09:05 |
| * larsu nods | 09:06 | |
| willcooke | ahah! | 09:08 |
| willcooke | I have the slow shutdown on W again | 09:08 |
| willcooke | A stop job is running for monitor and control system power state (17s / 1m 30s) | 09:08 |
| willcooke | it's now stopped ticking up | 09:09 |
| willcooke | pitti, anything to worry about? ^ | 09:09 |
| willcooke | This hasn't shown up for ages and now I have a USB drive plugged in, it's back | 09:09 |
| willcooke | Seems I can reproduce it now | 09:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you probably want to follow /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz it has a section for debugging shutdown issues | 09:30 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 I'll take a look | 09:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, seems like libgtk-3-dev should depends on libmircookie-dev now | 09:36 |
| seb128 | gdk-3.0.pc lists it | 09:37 |
| Laney | check bzr | 09:37 |
| Laney | ...check xenial-changes :) | 09:37 |
| seb128 | didn't get an email on xenial-changes | 09:37 |
| * seb128 refreshes | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | nop | 09:38 |
| * Laney shrugs | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | but I guess it means you are on it ;-) | 09:38 |
| didrocks | speaking of the devil… ;) | 09:38 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:38 |
| seb128 | nettle-dev? | 09:39 |
| * didrocks gives http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/ubuntu-make/xenial/ppc64el/ to pitti :-) | 09:39 | |
| seb128 | I wonder if it's normal that building on x11 pulls in mir requirements? | 09:39 |
| Laney | yes | 09:39 |
| seb128 | why? (just curious) | 09:40 |
| seb128 | well the depends is right, I just wonder why it has to be this way | 09:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: wohoo! | 09:40 |
| didrocks | was annoyed by a "always failed" on one arch :p | 09:41 |
| * pitti donne une accolade à didrocks | 09:41 | |
| * didrocks donne une accolade en retour | 09:41 | |
| didrocks | (and no, I didn't disable the test ;)) | 09:41 |
| pitti | willcooke: hm, what's that? powerd? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, I retried the pygobject builds btw, they seem alright now | 09:41 |
| seb128 | maybe that unblocks libpeas and gedit :-) | 09:41 |
| pitti | willcooke: is that still starting on desktop? last time I looked at it it was doomed to fail without android | 09:42 |
| pitti | willcooke: so that's saying it tried to stop (SIGTERM) powerd and it doesn't go down on that; it gets SIGKILLed after the timeout | 09:42 |
| pitti | willcooke: so: if powerd has been fixed to work without android, then it needs to be fixed to terminate on SIGTERM, or get an ExecStop= to say what otherwise one must do to stop it | 09:43 |
| pitti | willcooke: if it has not been fixed to work without android, it shouldn't start in the first place, and its unit should grow some conditional | 09:43 |
| Laney | ask attente? | 09:45 |
| Laney | thanks | 09:45 |
| willcooke | pitti, only upowerd is running on my W machine | 09:45 |
| pitti | willcooke: ok, so I guess someone fixed it for non-android | 09:45 |
| willcooke | ah, upowerd == powerd | 09:46 |
| willcooke | humm | 09:46 |
| pitti | willcooke: right, upower is harmless and expected to run; talking about powerd | 09:46 |
| pitti | that's the ubuntu phone specific thing | 09:46 |
| willcooke | having said I could recreate it, guess what.... | 09:46 |
| willcooke | now it's working fine again | 09:46 |
| Laney | hey pitti | 09:46 |
| willcooke | I thought I had a way to make it fail, guess not | 09:46 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:47 |
| willcooke | it's back | 09:48 |
| willcooke | wtf | 09:48 |
| Laney | pitti: good, went out for cuban tapas last night which was yummy :) | 09:48 |
| pitti | willcooke: can you try this without rebooting: just "sudo systemctl stop powerd" and see if it hangs | 09:48 |
| Laney | you? good journey back? | 09:48 |
| pitti | willcooke: if not, start it again, stop, wash, rinse & repeat? | 09:48 |
| pitti | Laney: a day late, but the flight that actually did fly was fine | 09:49 |
| Laney | wait, I saw a post about... that | 09:49 |
| pitti | and I adjusted to the jetlag rather well | 09:49 |
| pitti | the swap day yesterday was really helpful | 09:49 |
| pitti | and I worked for < 10 mins :) | 09:49 |
| Laney | \o/ | 09:49 |
| seb128 | hum, bug #1514427 ... does anyone can try that on xenial/amd64? works fine on i386 | 09:51 |
| ubot5 | bug 1514427 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "Cannot open inskape undefined symbol: _ZN6Magick5Image4readERKNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514427 | 09:51 |
| * pitti apt installs | 09:51 | |
| pitti | WTH, this installs libgnomevfs2 -- is that *still* a thing | 09:52 |
| pitti | seb128: it was reported on amd64 | 09:52 |
| pitti | hm, but it starts fine here | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, which is why I'm asking if anyone using amd64 can reproduce | 09:53 |
| seb128 | since my install is i386 | 09:53 |
| pitti | oh, it works for you | 09:53 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:53 |
| seb128 | k, so local issue I guess | 09:53 |
| seb128 | maybe an old lib in /usr/local or something | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, tahnks for testing | 09:53 |
| pitti | libmagick++-6.q16-5v5 8:6.8.9.9-6 | 09:54 |
| pitti | libmagickcore-6.q16-2 8:6.8.9.9-6 | 09:54 |
| pitti | that at least seems current | 09:54 |
| pitti | yeah, local imagemagic install could do that | 09:54 |
| Trevinho | seb128: it seems there are some troubles with gtk dependency in xenial... | 10:23 |
| Trevinho | configure: error: Package requirements (libwnck-3.0 >= 3.4.7) were not met: | 10:23 |
| Trevinho | Package 'mircookie', required by 'gdk-3.0', not found | 10:23 |
| Trevinho | This is for bamf, for example... But also Unity fails | 10:23 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, yeah, Laney just uploaded a fixed gtk, see backlog | 10:23 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, just do a retry once the new gtk is published, should be soon enough | 10:24 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah, ok... rebuilding now is fine (in ppa)? | 10:24 |
| Trevinho | ok | 10:24 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, | 10:25 |
| seb128 | $ rmadison -s xenial-proposed libgtk-3-0 | 10:25 |
| seb128 | libgtk-3-0 | 3.18.2-1ubuntu1 | xenial-proposed | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el | 10:25 |
| seb128 | so not yet | 10:25 |
| willcooke | pitti, sorry for the delay. So I did a systemctl stop powerd and it took ~ 15 seconds to stop. Retrying.... | 10:25 |
| seb128 | need another publisher | 10:25 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ok, thanks | 10:25 |
| * Trevinho waits... | 10:25 | |
| Laney | it's not finished on armhf yet | 10:25 |
| pitti | willcooke: ah, so you can reproduce that without having to reboot, good | 10:26 |
| Trevinho | you damn armhf... You're always late. | 10:26 |
| Trevinho | (it looks something more related to an Italian technology than a British one :P) | 10:26 |
| pitti | oh, no Sweetshark? | 10:28 |
| willcooke | pitti, systemctl start powerd -> Failed to start powerd.service: Unit lxc-android-config.service failed to load: No such file or directory | 10:29 |
| pitti | LibO started to fail with "configure: error: gtk3 libraries of the correct versions, not found" | 10:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, cf what we just said | 10:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, gtk+ fix is building, another 1 or 2 publisher cycles and it should be good to retry | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks | 10:29 |
| willcooke | larsu, +1 from desig | 10:37 |
| willcooke | n | 10:42 |
| larsu | \o/ | 10:44 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, you can retry your gtk builds now | 12:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 12:01 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks; the new gtk+3.0 already re-triggered the tests | 12:01 |
| seb128 | good | 12:01 |
| Trevinho | seb128: thanks | 12:07 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I think you said that https://code.launchpad.net/~sethj/ubuntu/wily/unity/fix-for-1445595/+merge/276074 was wrong, can you comment on it? | 12:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yep | 12:54 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks | 12:54 |
| Laney | LP/archive is being super slow for me | 12:56 |
| Laney | same for anyone else? | 12:56 |
| willcooke | Laney, testing | 12:58 |
| willcooke | Laney, seems the security repo is slow, others OK | 12:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, lp works fine for me | 13:00 |
| Laney | ok | 13:00 |
| didrocks | same here, fine | 13:07 |
| * Laney needs to get round to running ethernet | 13:07 | |
| * Laney orders a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel | 13:09 | |
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| qengho | good morning. | 14:08 |
| seb128 | hey qengho | 14:10 |
| andyrock | morning | 14:11 |
| Trevinho | hey andyrock | 14:11 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: you know there's a big review queue for you? :-D | 14:11 |
| andyrock | yeah | 14:12 |
| Trevinho | 💌 | 14:12 |
| andyrock | that does not make me happy | 14:12 |
| Trevinho | It's a nice mail, come one! | 14:12 |
| Trevinho | on* | 14:12 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock - how are you fixed for a meeting tomorrow around 10am UTC? | 14:12 |
| Trevinho | Ah, and the Kylin guys proposed their lockscreen shield... Works well, there are some code changes needed, but from a first look it seems nice. | 14:12 |
| willcooke | andyrock, this will be our inaugural agile sprint kick off | 14:12 |
| andyrock | willcooke: if it's on IRC it's fine for me | 14:13 |
| willcooke | andyrock, it will need to be a HO I think, sorry. Do you have any mornings which work? | 14:14 |
| willcooke | I guess we can try IRC, but I think HO will be better/faster | 14:14 |
| andyrock | willcooke: can I do that on the phone? just for the days I'm not home at that time | 14:14 |
| willcooke | andyrock, there will be one of these about every 3 weeks, plus a review at a similar schedule | 14:15 |
| Trevinho | But, doing it on afternoon is not feasible? | 14:15 |
| andyrock | ok I'll make it for tomorrow | 14:16 |
| willcooke | Sure, we can do that. My afternoons tend to be busier, but we can find a slot I'm sure | 14:16 |
| willcooke | andyrock, when is a good time for you? I think 1 hr will be plenty | 14:16 |
| willcooke | happy to fit around your schedule | 14:16 |
| Trevinho | Ok, then we can decide everytime when's better.. | 14:16 |
| willcooke | +1 | 14:16 |
| andyrock | my schedule is a mess, it's no fixed | 14:17 |
| andyrock | I'll try to adapt my schedule to the meetings | 14:18 |
| andyrock | the opposite is impossible | 14:18 |
| willcooke | hah | 14:18 |
| andyrock | i'll do it for tomorrow :D | 14:18 |
| Trevinho | Since we're just 4 people, I think we can be easily flexible | 14:18 |
| willcooke | plus seb128 at least for the first one | 14:18 |
| Trevinho | ah, ok sure | 14:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128 is always there :) | 14:18 |
| willcooke | ok, how about we sync tomorrow on IRC and try and find a slot | 14:19 |
| willcooke | hikiko will be back tomorrow as well | 14:19 |
| Trevinho | Fine | 14:19 |
| seb128 | tomorrow is a french holiday but I should be online at least in the morning between 10 and 12 | 14:19 |
| willcooke | oh yeah, forgot | 14:20 |
| willcooke | maybe Thursday then | 14:20 |
| seb128 | let's see tomorrow morning? | 14:21 |
| willcooke | sure, oki plan is then try and sync tomorrow morning and if we can't do it then try again on Thursday | 14:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: don't do that... We can move this on Thursday | 14:21 |
| tseliot | willcooke: hi, do you know what version of gstreamer we are planning to use in 16.04? | 14:21 |
| seb128 | tseliot, whatever is stable by feature freeze, looks like 1.6 from where we stand at the moment | 14:22 |
| tseliot | seb128: ok, thanks | 14:22 |
| seb128 | tseliot, why? | 14:23 |
| Laney | 1.8 | 14:23 |
| tseliot | seb128: somebody asked ;) | 14:23 |
| seb128 | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-announce/2015-October/000359.html | 14:23 |
| seb128 | in fact 1.8 likely I guess | 14:23 |
| seb128 | tseliot, do you know why they ask? they want/need a new version? | 14:24 |
| tseliot | ah, ok | 14:24 |
| tseliot | seb128: I'm not really sure. I will ask them | 14:24 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:24 |
| * Laney was here you know | 14:25 | |
| seb128 | Laney, here? | 14:26 |
| tseliot | Laney: sorry, I didn't see you | 14:26 |
| * seb128 waves to Laney | 14:26 | |
| tseliot | Laney: thanks | 14:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, sorry when I replied I was unsure if you were around or at lunch or if you knew/tracked upstream gstreamer work | 14:26 |
| * seb128 knows for next time that Laney masters gstreamer's schedule ;-) | 14:26 | |
| Laney | no worries :P | 14:31 |
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| Laney | I usually assume these days that we'll track it like glib | 14:31 |
| seb128 | k, I though you mostly did merge from Debian | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I didn't know you were tracking upstream as well | 14:31 |
| Laney | slomo is fast there | 14:31 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:31 |
| Laney | happy to let him do that | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I for one had no idea when 1.8 was coming | 14:31 |
| seb128 | now I know | 14:31 |
| Laney | ya, trying to get on the 6 month train | 14:31 |
| seb128 | they failed in the past | 14:31 |
| seb128 | so I don't trust much their schedule | 14:31 |
| seb128 | but let's see ;-) | 14:32 |
| willcooke | didrocks, heard back from Fritzing too. They are +1 | 15:02 |
| willcooke | larsu, thanks for the approval! Do I need to do anything now or is it automatic? Will it be part of 16.04? | 15:03 |
| larsu | willcooke: used to be automatic; these days we need to ping seb128 or Laney | 15:05 |
| larsu | there's a spreadhseet involoved. And a silo. And something about a train | 15:05 |
| seb128 | larsu, no spreadsheet anymore | 15:06 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:06 |
| seb128 | things improve! | 15:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, need a landing through https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ | 15:07 |
| larsu | oh indeed? | 15:07 |
| larsu | ah, right | 15:07 |
| * larsu shuts up | 15:07 | |
| larsu | the part about pinging someone was corrct | 15:07 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure you wouldn't be able to do a landing yourself | 15:07 |
| seb128 | if you are not we could for sure arrange to have it fixed | 15:07 |
| seb128 | same for willcooke :p | 15:07 |
| didrocks | willcooke: great! do you mind opening bugs with links and references? | 15:10 |
| * seb128 hands a "rebuild master" badge to Laney ;-) | 15:17 | |
| Laney | didn't test build that lot | 15:17 |
| Laney | and there were some sed build depends replacements | 15:17 |
| Laney | sooooo, no badge just yet :) | 15:17 |
| seb128 | hehe | 15:18 |
| seb128 | more transition coming | 15:18 |
| seb128 | I noticed the new "glew" upload earlier | 15:18 |
| seb128 | there are some 60 rdepends | 15:18 |
| Laney | ffs | 15:18 |
| Laney | better not get entangled | 15:18 |
| seb128 | we might want a transition tracker for that one | 15:18 |
| Laney | just got a proper dialog from e-d-s | 15:20 |
| Laney | for team meeting reminder | 15:20 |
| Laney | :( | 15:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, I'm not authorized to add a new request. What should I do? | 15:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, why ":("? | 15:24 |
| willcooke | didrocks, Sure. Still need to finalise the legal side, but I will create a couple of bugs anyway | 15:24 |
| seb128 | willcooke, unsure what group has the rights to do landing. If you are interested to figure that out/get it work ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng, otherwhise jut delegate the landing to somebody in the team I would say | 15:26 |
| willcooke | probably not something I need to do very often. seb128 would you mind doing the honours? | 15:28 |
| willcooke | it's not urgent of course | 15:29 |
| seb128 | willcooke, adding to my list | 15:29 |
| willcooke | thx! | 15:29 |
| seb128 | but probably not for before thursday | 15:29 |
| willcooke | nw | 15:29 |
| seb128 | yw! | 15:29 |
| * willcooke feels a disturbance in the force | 15:29 | |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-10 | 15:30 |
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| didrocks | hey | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hey | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt (hols), dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (maybe out), happyaron (maybe out), hikiko (hols), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 15:30 |
| andyrock | hey | 15:30 |
| dgadomski | hey | 15:30 |
| Sweet5hark | hey | 15:30 |
| Trevinho | HEy! | 15:31 |
| FJKong | =。=！ | 15:31 |
| happyaron | hey | 15:31 |
| qengho | hejhej | 15:31 |
| larsu | \o | 15:31 |
| willcooke | Let's go..... | 15:32 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 15:32 |
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| andyrock | Nothing that much last week | 15:32 |
| andyrock | Treviño is too fast to write code | 15:32 |
| andyrock | faster than me reading his code | 15:32 |
| Trevinho | not true... | 15:32 |
| andyrock | btw this week I'll try to review all the MPs | 15:33 |
| * Laney is getting ALL the build failures now | 15:33 | |
| willcooke | oki, thanks andyrock | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:34 |
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| desrt | o/ | 15:34 |
| attente | hi, not a whole lot to say | 15:34 |
| attente | finished https://github.com/maliit/framework/pull/19 and https://github.com/maliit/inputcontext-gtk/pull/1, merged upstream | 15:34 |
| attente | need to figure out why clicking on the maliit keyboard double taps keys in gtk apps | 15:34 |
| attente | backlog: single-surface mode for gtk-mir | 15:34 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:34 |
| willcooke | thx attente | 15:34 |
| willcooke | desrt, are you really here? | 15:34 |
| desrt | ya | 15:34 |
| desrt | i didn't email my report, so i can give it now :) | 15:35 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:35 |
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| desrt | did a release last week and used the chance to do a lot of long-overdue cleanup tasks in glib | 15:35 |
| desrt | simplified the docs build | 15:35 |
| desrt | also simplified our handling of "inline" (which exploded as a result of the recent overflow-checked math ops work) | 15:35 |
| desrt | also general bugs/patches/etc. | 15:35 |
| desrt | eof | 15:35 |
| willcooke | thanks desrt | 15:36 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:36 |
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| dgadomski | hey | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | * I've been off for 2 days last week | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | * fixed bug #1337873, reported upstream bug with attached patch (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92886), will work on debdiffs for SRU | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 92886 in daemon "PolkitAgentSession incorrectly handles multiline PAM_TEXT_INFO output" [Normal,New] | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Vivid) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873 | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | * got more feedback for fix to bug #1337873, pitti will upload the fix to xenial for testing before SRU | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | * working on a wiki page with information about debugging policykit | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | EOF | 15:36 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | thank you | 15:37 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, what's the url of the page? | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | seb128: I'm working on a draft, going to paste it to wiki, not sure what would be the best place to put it | 15:38 |
| dgadomski | seb128: I still have it as a google doc | 15:39 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPolicyKit or something | 15:39 |
| seb128 | that would be consistent with others | 15:39 |
| seb128 | e.g https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor | 15:39 |
| dgadomski | seb128: thanks, will do that | 15:39 |
| willcooke | great, thanks chaps | 15:40 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:40 |
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| didrocks | Ubuntu Make: | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Release work from previous week as 15.11. Good feedbacks so far. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Review and merge Netbeans IDE support (and added/cleaning tests for it) by Fabio Colella! | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Review and merge Jared Ravetch rust support (and added/cleaning as well tests for it) by Jared Ravetch. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Review and merge Unity3D updates support by Eldar Khayrullin (welcome to our new contributor). | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Review and merge Sebastian Schuberth fix for Android NDK. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Fix webstorm icon renamed upstream. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Ship version file as part of the install (Now --version really works on packaged flavor as well) + stamp generated binary with correct version. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Fix BaseInstaller to not crash when all downloads assets are 404 + add medium tests for this. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Ensure -r global option behave like --remove. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Some style, refactoring and formatting tidy up for recent merges and changes. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Add medium assets, certificates and additional failure test cases for netbeans and rust. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Update docker container for medium tests with new certificates. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Readd Travis CI integration running pep8 and small tests (with badge status and updated wording in README). New pushes and pull requests are now automatically tested on those 2 kinds of tests. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Fix and updates dependencies for package and pip virtualenv deps. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Standardize the test environment so that people running tests using for instance zsh are not impacted. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Finish up shipping static files support for future frameworks. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Using scala framework for loading tests and making autopkgtests pass on armel64 (android not available on this arch). | 15:40 |
| didrocks | * Improve releasing script and migrate gbp config to new headers. | 15:40 |
| didrocks | Misc: | 15:41 |
| didrocks | * Watched and followed some UOS sessions (still some to catch up though) | 15:41 |
| didrocks | * Some Archive Admin duties | 15:41 |
| didrocks | . | 15:41 |
| willcooke | nothing else? | 15:41 |
| larsu | did you sleep? | 15:41 |
| willcooke | :D:D | 15:41 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks, amazing stuff | 15:41 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:41 |
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| seb128 | you guys read fast | 15:41 |
| didrocks | larsu: not enough ;) | 15:41 |
| larsu | haha | 15:41 |
| FJKong | dmesg| less | 15:41 |
| FJKong | hi | 15:41 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: has a bot to generate random changleogs :P | 15:41 |
| FJKong | things about sogou IM : | 15:42 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: damn, need to change my strategy now! :) | 15:42 |
| FJKong | processing sogou skin picture with libpng, | 15:42 |
| FJKong | modify Imageprovider to load image | 15:42 |
| FJKong | made a demo to display animate picture | 15:42 |
| FJKong | pinyin search | 15:42 |
| FJKong | wirite README and guide to help testing | 15:42 |
| FJKong | test gui configre tool | 15:42 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:42 |
| willcooke | animated gifs ftw | 15:42 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:42 |
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| happyaron | ok | 15:43 |
| happyaron | not long this week | 15:43 |
| happyaron | 1. Continued testing/improving of (my) zfs package | 15:43 |
| happyaron | 2. Mass updates to Chinese translations (still working on those stuff atm) | 15:43 |
| happyaron | EOF | 15:43 |
| happyaron | just be time consuming | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thanks happyaron | 15:43 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:43 |
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| Sweet5hark | Trevinho, didrocks: http://whatthecommit.com/ and https://github.com/lwe/whatthecommit | 15:44 |
| Trevinho | :D | 15:44 |
| Laney | oops | 15:44 |
| Laney | • glib2.0 -> unstable, exp, wily, xenial (+ poking tests to get things in) | 15:44 |
| Laney | • (finish?) set(ting?) up appstream server running on http://162.213.34.169/html/ (temporary home) | 15:44 |
| Laney | • re-poked at libphonenumber after being asked to by pocock, made another Debian upload, should be syncable now after a fix in telephony-service (submitted) | 15:44 |
| Laney | • gtk+3.0 -> xenial (currently poking tests, should go in today [just did!]) | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ still need to file a couple of bugs | 15:45 |
| Laney | • poke for gnome-desktop3/cheese(?)/e-d-s/other things transition, went in after doko fixed binutils and webkit2gtk built | 15:45 |
| Laney | • poke lots and lots of things for poppler/ffmpeg/ocaml/gsl/soundtouch/x264/x265 transition, still ongoing | 15:45 |
| Laney | • gstreamer 1.6.1 updates | 15:45 |
| Laney | • some UOS things and discussions about desktop iso testing | 15:45 |
| Laney | ♜ | 15:45 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 15:45 |
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| larsu | random bug and review work this past week, still not on top of everything (sorry) | 15:46 |
| larsu | went to systemd conf and had some good discussions | 15:46 |
| larsu | got the dbus spec amended while there | 15:46 |
| larsu | and a bug fix for dbus-monitor | 15:47 |
| larsu | (which is broken right now) | 15:47 |
| larsu | also finished up the gsettings-qt stuff | 15:47 |
| larsu | and worked on geonames localization in between | 15:47 |
| larsu | I think that's it. </larsu> | 15:47 |
| willcooke | reviewed my awesome mp | 15:47 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:48 |
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| larsu | willcooke: awesome work ;) | 15:48 |
| willcooke | :D | 15:48 |
| larsu | easy to review | 15:48 |
| qengho | * Releasing Cr 46.0.2490.71 today. Translations and default-browser bugs worked out. | 15:48 |
| qengho | * Preparing distro bug fix for xdg-utils. | 15:48 |
| qengho | * Not much on cr-ozone-mir this week. | 15:48 |
| qengho | * Exploring apparmor hats for Chromium to punch smallest possible holes for sandbox. | 15:48 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:48 |
| willcooke | thanks qengho | 15:48 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:48 |
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| seb128 | qengho, speaking about xdg-utils, it needs merging on Debian, if you want maybe to do that ;-) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | oh | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • keep looking at incoming bugs and errors, triaging and picking some | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • updated gedit to 3.18 including CSD, quite some changes, thanks Lars for doing most of the work previous cycle! | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • backported rhythmbox fix for sync dialog have a null height | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • joined some UOS sessions | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • debugged/fixed nautilus trash segfault (was due to glib) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • started nautilus update (3.18) + debian merge, quite some work, still ongoing | 15:48 |
| qengho | seb128: Will look. | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • did a patch pilot shift | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • load of desktop updates&merges | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • some work on current xenial britney issues/transitions | 15:48 |
| seb128 | (also another reminder that help on debian merges would be welcome ;-) | 15:49 |
| willcooke | desktoppers: ^^ please help | 15:49 |
| seb128 | thanks :-) | 15:49 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 15:50 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark | 15:50 |
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| Sweet5hark | - finished 5.0.3 update for docviewer and related issues | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - CVE-2015-4551 CVE-2015-5212 CVE-2015-5213 CVE-2015-5214 for precise/trusty/vivid (good riddance finally) | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - some UOS stuff | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - upstream code review | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - added some assertions on threading issues upstream, fixed some 10 API entry points without mutex locking issues that might cause spurious crashes | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - peeked a look at 5.1 alpha1/xenial for prereleases ppa (not more yet) | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | - some tender review/TDF leadership/event coordination | 15:50 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 15:50 |
| willcooke | bosh! | 15:50 |
| willcooke | thanks Sweet5hark | 15:50 |
| willcooke | good news on the CVEs | 15:50 |
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:50 |
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| willcooke | * Updated Orca to latest stable, 3.18.2 in xenial. | 15:50 |
| willcooke | * Updated at-spi2-core in Debian pkg-a11y git, waiting for upload to Debian so I can merge into Xenail. | 15:50 |
| willcooke | * Started making preparations to upgrade to xenial. | 15:50 |
| willcooke | * Almost got my Orca gsettings backend code working, but Orca is not speaking, and not executing commands. Investigation continues. | 15:50 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:51 |
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| tkamppeter | - Phone: Did more testing with level-1 and level-2 printing stacks. For level 1 I got everything working. Level 2 seems to have some problems with filters to be run on ARM. | 15:51 |
| tkamppeter | - cups: Fixed the problem of sub-processes not starting, after investigation of the CUPS source code I have found that the problem is the binary package splitting, as some small helper program was missing in the level-1 printing stack. | 15:51 |
| tkamppeter | - Communication with a printer manufacturer because of IPP-over-USB problems. | 15:51 |
| tkamppeter | - Discussion with Ghostscript upstream about XPS support. | 15:51 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 15:51 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 15:51 |
| willcooke | good work on the phone | 15:51 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 15:52 |
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| seb128 | tkamppeter, good work on figuring out the missing helper issue! | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Meeting with kylin guys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu Kylin/Meeting/2015/20151105 | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Fixed a panel menus flickering issue, caused by a nux change (and a nux workaround inside unity) | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Fixed drawing of prelighted state of the indicators | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Added upstart support to BAMF | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Show warning also when numlock is enabled in lockscreen | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Proposed the new overlay scrollbars for the dash so that they're like the gtk ones | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Re-enabled the unit tests on arm64 | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Removed python2.7 dependency on unity packages that are in main (kept for unity-autopilot that is in universe) | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Initial review of the Ubuntu Kylin lockscreen shield | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Prepared a new landing of the stack | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | · Attended desktop UOS session, joined others, watched someone else | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | | 15:52 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 15:52 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:53 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, good work :-) | 15:53 |
| willcooke | - Xenial updates | 15:53 |
| willcooke | - XMir packaging | 15:53 |
| willcooke | - GNOME Software work | 15:53 |
| willcooke | - Found a lightdm-webkit-greeter maintainer! | 15:53 |
| seb128 | oh, nice for lightdm-webkit-greeter | 15:53 |
| willcooke | yay! | 15:53 |
| seb128 | thanks for helping with updates Rob ;-) | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: :-) | 15:53 |
| willcooke | #topic Any other business | 15:53 |
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| willcooke | Anyone got any topics? | 15:53 |
| willcooke | Nothing from my side at this point | 15:54 |
| seb128 | did I mention Debian merges? ;-) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | :p | 15:54 |
| willcooke | :)) | 15:54 |
| willcooke | going in 10... | 15:55 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 15:55:22 2015 UTC. | 15:55 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-11-10-15.30.moin.txt | 15:55 |
| willcooke | thanks everyone, nice and efficient today | 15:55 |
| willcooke | good turn out too | 15:55 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 15:56 |
| attente | thanks | 15:56 |
| larsu | thanks! | 15:56 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 15:56 |
| Sweet5hark | thanks guys | 15:57 |
| willcooke | oh, could someone take a look at Byran's email to the desktop list Gnome Calendar? | 15:59 |
| willcooke | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-November/004755.html | 15:59 |
| willcooke | as and when | 15:59 |
| Trevinho | Sweet5hark: another good one from your site: «Removed test case since code didn't pass QA » :-D | 16:03 |
| Sweet5hark | Trevinho: lets be honest: we have all seen that one (if only with more decorum) | 16:03 |
| * Trevinho has a recent branch with that :-D | 16:04 | |
| Sweet5hark | hrhr | 16:04 |
| seb128 | willcooke, i've that on my todolist, I need to try/play with the tb one | 16:05 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 16:05 |
| pitti | nice, gtk+3.0 propagated without a hitch | 16:31 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 16:31 |
| Laney | without? | 16:33 |
| Laney | I retried a few tests for it | 16:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, wait to see the runtime result :p | 16:35 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, did you? bah | 16:35 |
| * seb128 pinned gtk+3.16 meanwhile | 16:35 | |
| pitti | Laney: cloud trouble again, or flaky tests? | 16:35 |
| Laney | pitti: at least https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/i386/s/software-properties/20151110_151705@/log.gz | 16:35 |
| pitti | seb128: trust your work! | 16:35 |
| pitti | Laney: ah sorry, that was my doing | 16:35 |
| pitti | the test was hung, and I killed it as I wanted to roll out a new worker | 16:36 |
| pitti | but I thought I already retried it | 16:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, i tried it, the bg flickering is giving me headaches | 16:36 |
| seb128 | I hope I'm not the only one to see that and that we manage to get upstream/somebody to look at it | 16:36 |
| willcooke | Parents evening at the school, back in 30 mins | 16:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv | 16:37 |
| pitti | that'll be a really short evening | 16:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, the first part of the video is with the new gtk then it's the old one | 16:37 |
| qengho | When I have those, I have to bring the teacher a bottle of scotch and dry her tears for two hours. | 16:38 |
| pitti | seb128: I think the video loses the effect somewhat, but I think I know what you mean | 16:38 |
| pitti | uh, so empathy/telepathy are dead for good? what a pity | 16:40 |
| pitti | (reading willcooke's 16.04 change proposals) | 16:40 |
| seb128 | they are unmaintained at least | 16:40 |
| pitti | TBH I've been using pidgin for a while as empathy still doesn't do OTR (encryption) | 16:41 |
| seb128 | telepathy is used as a framework on the phone so I think it's still a thing | 16:41 |
| qengho | exit empathy. enter tor messenger | 16:41 |
| pitti | but yeah, the world moving back from XMPP is really sad | 16:41 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 16:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, Xavier submitted patched for OTR on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891#c46 | 16:42 |
| ubot5 | Freedesktop bug 16891 in tp-spec "Telepathy should support OTR encryption" [Critical,New] | 16:42 |
| seb128 | but those didn't get merged (yet) | 16:42 |
| pitti | I know, it's already quite old | 16:43 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, what do you mean in bug #1514908? what sort of support do you expect from a file-manager? | 16:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1514908 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "add support for non-root X sessions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514908 | 16:45 |
| Laney | larsu: is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748498 a bug you could add to your list? | 16:45 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 748498 in .General "Black background appears briefly before window gets drawn" [Minor,New] | 16:45 |
| Laney | some people are complaining about it ;-) | 16:46 |
| tjaalton | seb128: oh man :) | 16:48 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, you meant lightdm right? ;-) | 16:48 |
| tjaalton | yes, changed it | 16:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:48 |
| tjaalton | had a nautilus bug page open, clicked report a bug and then changed the package name, but apparently it's too late at that point | 16:51 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| * willcooke back | 17:24 | |
| seb128 | wb willcooke | 17:36 |
| === dkessel_ is now known as dkessel | ||
| larsu | Laney: I can have a look, but I sense this is a Company question.. | 17:49 |
| seb128 | larsu, I think Laney just tried to get the ball rolling on it because I complained about it and the bugzilla seems to sit there ignored | 17:53 |
| larsu | seb128: ok :) | 17:55 |
| larsu | makes sense | 17:55 |
| seb128 | larsu, it might be my fault for having a laptop old and slow enough that it's quite visible | 17:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, unsure if you saw the video, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv | 17:56 |
| larsu | seb128: just testing it - I can see it as well (but very briefly) | 17:58 |
| seb128 | I wonder if it's another CSD frame extent issue | 17:58 |
| seb128 | it's not a theme one at least | 17:58 |
| larsu | maybe a frame clock thing? | 18:00 |
| larsu | the bug report mentions this not happening on composited wms | 18:00 |
| larsu | could be that unity misses somethign | 18:00 |
| didrocks | good evening everyone, see you on thursday! (tomorrow is off in France) | 18:01 |
| larsu | didrocks: enjoy! | 18:01 |
| didrocks | thanks larsu! | 18:01 |
| * larsu wanted to try on gnome shell, but guest session seems to be broken | 18:03 | |
| seb128 | yeah, indeed, I noticed that as wel | 18:03 |
| seb128 | you can switch to another user though | 18:03 |
| larsu | can also relogin myself | 18:04 |
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| willcooke | dinner. bbl | 18:38 |
| jono | hey folks | 19:02 |
| jono | my Unity8 session is still not starting | 19:02 |
| jono | using the container version on 15.10 | 19:02 |
| jono | any idea how I get it working? | 19:02 |
| qengho | jono: pastebin "dmesg |tail" ? | 19:03 |
| jono | qengho, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13218010/ | 19:04 |
| jono | I tried this too: | 19:05 |
| jono | jono@forge:~$ sudo unity8-lxc-setup --rebuild-all --redownload | 19:05 |
| jono | usage: unity8-lxc-setup [-h] [--rebuild] [--test SECONDS] [--destroy] | 19:05 |
| jono | [--update-lxc] | 19:05 |
| jono | unity8-lxc-setup: error: unrecognized arguments: --rebuild-all --redownload | 19:05 |
| jono | which seems odd | 19:05 |
| jono | it seems odd as dpm got it working in this pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11724558/ | 19:05 |
| davmor2 | jono: try --rebuild all | 19:07 |
| jono | davmor2, | 19:07 |
| jono | jono@forge:~$ sudo unity8-lxc-setup --rebuild-all | 19:07 |
| jono | usage: unity8-lxc-setup [-h] [--rebuild] [--test SECONDS] [--destroy] | 19:07 |
| jono | [--update-lxc] | 19:07 |
| jono | unity8-lxc-setup: error: unrecognized arguments: --rebuild-all | 19:07 |
| jono | oops | 19:07 |
| jono | unity8-lxc-setup: error: unrecognized arguments: all | 19:07 |
| davmor2 | jono: remove the all all together | 19:08 |
| jono | so just --rebuild ? | 19:08 |
| jono | it seems to be working now | 19:08 |
| davmor2 | jono: seems to be the thing listed | 19:08 |
| qengho | That "usage" line says so. | 19:08 |
| jono | it is updating it now it seems | 19:08 |
| jono | downloading a bunch of packages | 19:09 |
| jono | davmor2, how often is this container updated? | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | jono: it might be that you are on a different version than dpm so his might of had rebuild-all whereas your version didn't | 19:09 |
| jono | with the most recent unity8 trunk? | 19:09 |
| jono | ahhh | 19:09 |
| qengho | ....or one of you is on some PPA. | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | jono: one for someone else I'm afraid I don't use it | 19:10 |
| jono | davmor2, np | 19:10 |
| jono | how you doing davmor2? | 19:15 |
| davmor2 | jono: Good thanks, busy as hell, How about you, you git......hub person you ;) | 19:16 |
| jono | davmor2, good pal | 19:17 |
| jono | just off for a week before I start :-) | 19:17 |
| davmor2 | jono: man holidays before you start, weirdo ;) | 19:18 |
| davmor2 | jono: looking forward to the excitement of the tech world again? | 19:18 |
| jono | davmor2, indeed, I am glad to be back in the thick of things :-) | 19:19 |
| czajkowski | jono: you're just happy to not use a mac again :) | 19:22 |
| jono | czajkowski, yeah - well, I think I will dual boot | 19:25 |
| jono | I like Ubuntu, but I also need some Mac things - e.g. GitHub Desktop | 19:26 |
| * czajkowski hugs her X1 | 19:26 | |
| czajkowski | jono: ah fair point I've mostly been able to get away with other tools except goto meeting, doesnt view camera but other than that :D | 19:26 |
| jono | ok folks, I get some errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13218192/ | 19:30 |
| jono | when I ran: sudo unity8-lxc-setup --rebuild | 19:30 |
| jono | czajkowski, you use Ubuntu? | 19:30 |
| czajkowski | jono: yes, asking me to do stuff on a mac took me a lot longer | 19:32 |
| jono | ahhh | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | jono: to be fair I'm the only one on my team that refused the mac :) the rest use a mac or windows. | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | for our .net sdk workings | 19:36 |
| jono | czajkowski, I think that is pretty normal | 19:37 |
| willcooke | right, g'gnith | 19:50 |
| willcooke | night | 19:50 |
| zmaj | hello, anyone here? | 20:11 |
| davmor2 | yes | 20:14 |
| zmaj | I am looking into building a Ubuntu based distro with i3wm, do any of you use i3wm? | 20:15 |
| zmaj | I guess I will ask it in #ubuntu instead | 20:28 |
| zmaj | close | 20:28 |
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