[06:38] <vishnudev> hi al
[06:38] <vishnudev> how to run make -j4 for differnt ubntu branch?
[07:21] <jgdx> vishnudev, you got to be more specific
[07:22] <vishnudev> I want to make a build with "personal/w-ondra/phablet-5.1.1_r5 " branch
[07:26] <vishnudev> how to do that?
[07:35] <vishnudev> Add your hardware specifig git repositories under phablet/hardware.
[07:36] <vishnudev> where will I get hardware specific git repo for nexus 6?
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <vishnudev> good morning
[07:59] <vishnudev> where will I get hardware specific git repo for nexus 6?
[08:16] <slvn_> Hello ! I am waiting for bschaefer/mcphail for some help & bug fixing ... In the mean times, maybe could someone test a game/click package on his device (the version of the deivce needs to be vivid + ppa phone overlay)  ?
[08:52] <vishnudev> can someone help me on porting ubuntu touch on to my device?
[08:52] <vishnudev> I've setup the repo and built a rom for nexus 4
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Area Code Day! 😃
[10:15] <justCarakas> haha
[11:06] <kkumar> Hi team
[11:06] <kkumar> am looking for some help on using Ubuntu touch for Java
[11:06] <kkumar> anyone has any experiences of touch with Java.. and specifically javafx
[11:26] <M0tty> Hi! IRM looking after solutions to fix the Gps issue on mx4 meizu. Gps never work... any idea?
[11:36] <ogra_> M0tty, did you try disabling WLAN ?
[11:37] <M0tty> Yes I do. Dosn't work...
[11:37] <ogra_> how lon did you wait (and have you made sure to be outside when trying)
[11:38] <ogra_> *long
[11:38] <M0tty> just after the ota-7 update I had Gps once, but it was the only one
[11:39] <M0tty> ogra_ I wait a very long time, always outside. ;-)
[11:40] <ogra_> hmm, last time (but thats two weeks ago) it worked fine for me ... probably there was a regression
[11:41] <Guest42341> M0tty, use the rc-proposed channel, the stable channel is old and buggy
[11:41] <davmor2> M0tty: are you only using gps or are you using here agps too
[11:41] <ogra_> Guest42341, please dont make such suggestions
[11:41] <ogra_> at least not without warnings ...
[11:41] <Guest42341> ogra_, rc-proposed is pretty safe
[11:42] <Guest42341> :D
[11:42] <ogra_> the stable channel has only known bugs that were verified by the QA
[11:42] <ogra_> team
[11:42] <ogra_> the rc-proposed channel can completely break and even be unbootable at any time
[11:42] <Guest42341> never happened to me
[11:42] <Guest42341> but i guess it could
[11:42] <ogra_> definitely nothing you should use if you are not prepared to manually recover from such a situation
[11:43] <ogra_> (and indeed rc-proposed usually has a *lot* more bugs ... they are just not known usually)
[11:45] <Guest42341> ogra_,  i used stable for a couple of months and stable for 1 month, i can't recommend the stable channel from my experience
[11:45] <Guest42341> ogra_,  the stable is worst (opinion)
[11:45] <ogra_> well, you cant just blindly recommend rc-proposed to people
[11:46] <ogra_> you should at alest warn them that there can be data loss unbootable installs and that there are definitely a *lot* more unfixed bugs
[11:46] <ogra_> randomly telling people stable is "more buggay" is not very constructive and rather mean towards them
[11:47] <ogra_> (and it additionally totally dis-credits the work of the OA team)
[11:47] <Guest42341> buggy :P
[11:47] <Guest42341> -a
[11:47] <Guest42341> the phones are targeted to devs and enthusiasts anyway
[11:48] <ogra_> right, and enthusiasts arent devs
[11:48] <ogra_> and shouldnt be
[11:48] <jibel> Guest42341, agreed with ogra_ . Unless you're helping with the development or testing of the phone recommending rc-proposed is a bad advice
[11:48] <Guest42341> i've only recommended the rc-proposed channel twice
[11:49] <Guest42341> but from my experience is much better than stable
[11:49] <Guest42341> at least for me
[11:49] <popey> ok.
[11:49] <ogra_> it has more features and ten times more bugs too
[11:49] <popey> cyclic argument is cyclic
[11:49] <ogra_> anyway
[11:49] <ogra_> right
[12:44] <M0tty> davmor2 both :-) nothing is working.
[12:47] <Guest42341> M0tty, OTA8 is probably next week, maybe it will fix your bug
[13:52] <mcphail> slvn_: I'll be home from work sometime after 2200h GMT tonight. I'll be happy to test then.
[13:53] <ogra_> slvn_, a mail to the Ml with detailed instructions might get you more feedback ;)
[14:04] <cam> hi all I have question: why is my ubuntu r24 and not r26 27 28
[14:04] <elijah> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2013/02/15/developers-get-the-full-support-they-need/ says there is an #ubuntu-phone but when I try to join it says I need an invitation. Anyone know when this will open up?
[14:09] <popey> elijah, yeah, ignore that message :)
[14:09] <elijah> popey: okay, thanks
[14:11] <elijah> Is the Meizo M4 currently the best device to get for development?
[14:11] <k1l> isnt the nexus4 the develoment phone, still?
[14:12] <cam> hi all I have question: why is my ubuntu r24 and not r26 27 28 ( nexus 4)
[14:13] <Guest42341> elijah, you can't get Meizu MX4, they are not selling it any more
[14:15] <Guest42341> elijah, you can buy a new bq ubuntu edition but you can't connect it to a screen or buy a second hand nexus 4 that can converge
[14:15] <pmcgowan> cam, r24 is the latest release on the stable channel for mako
[14:15] <pmcgowan> the numbers vary on different devices
[14:17] <Guest42341> cam, for meizu r6 is the last stable image
[14:19] <Guest42341> cam, and for rc-proposed r157, see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1475568
[14:29] <cam> Guest42341 thanks a lot
[14:54] <kenvandine> mzanetti, why doesn't the shell rotate on flo?
[14:54] <kenvandine> i'm guessing that's intentional, but i have to say i don't like it
[14:55] <mzanetti> kenvandine, it does
[14:55] <kenvandine> not on mine :)
[14:55] <mzanetti> what app have you focused?
[14:55] <kenvandine> no app
[14:55] <mzanetti> the dash app?
[14:55] <kenvandine> yes
[14:55] <kenvandine> the dash
[14:55] <mzanetti> the dash (which is an app as any other) locks rotation
[14:55] <kenvandine> it's only landscape
[14:55] <mzanetti> on your phone too
[14:56] <mzanetti> although on the phone it locks it to portrait
[14:56] <kenvandine> oh right
[14:56] <kenvandine> i guess i expect that on the phone
[14:56] <kenvandine> but i hate having to turn the tablet to landscape when launching apps
[14:57] <kenvandine> same for browsing content in the scopes
[14:57] <popey> it is very unintuitive
[14:57] <mzanetti> oh well... maybe we can enable rotation for the dash soon... at least we have branches in the queue that make reflowing it fast enough that we could enable it
[14:57] <kenvandine> i prefer having portrait for browsing scope content
[14:57] <mzanetti> but so far this is really a design decision
[14:57] <kenvandine> i figured it was
[14:57] <mzanetti> you can change it yourself by changing /usr/share/applications/unity8-dash.desktop
[14:58] <mzanetti> there's something like X-Ubuntu-Supported-Orientation=native
[14:58] <mzanetti> you can either remove that to allow rotation, or change it to portrait
[14:58] <mzanetti> but be aware that the dash is quite slow in resizing atm
[15:04] <jgdx> morphis, did you fix the “forget device” regression? I.e. should I take another look?
[15:05] <morphis> jgdx: I did but currently have troubles rebuilding the package in the silo
[15:05] <jgdx> morphis, you'll let me know?
[15:06] <morphis> jgdx: for sure
[15:06] <morphis> need to get all of this ready ...
[15:06] <kenvandine> mzanetti, interesting, i removed that line and it rotates, a little ugly for a second then works nicely
[15:06] <kenvandine> mzanetti, but it still uses the side stage in portrait :)
[15:07] <mzanetti> kenvandine, yes... inprogress
[15:07] <kenvandine> ok, so that's expected :)
[15:07] <mzanetti> yes, currently
[15:07] <mzanetti> but also expected to be fixed soon :)
[15:10] <seb128> jgdx, morphis, I made a few review comments as well on the mp btw (in case you didn't see those)
[15:12] <morphis> seb128: I see
[15:25] <morphis> jgdx: last thing I need to look at is this power toggle thing you mentioned
[15:25] <jgdx> morphis, the warnings?
[15:26] <morphis> yes
[15:26] <morphis> jgdx: on the functionality side everything was still working?
[15:31] <jgdx> morphis, yeah, except the regression.
[15:32] <morphis> ok
[15:32] <jgdx> morphis, it's normally benign, but you can have strong-ish typing in js using qml props.
[15:32] <jgdx> and there's a type error here
[15:34] <morphis> where?
[15:35] <morphis> "
[15:35] <morphis> jgdx: the ones "Unable to assign [undefined] to bool" are due to the bluetoothActionGroup not directly exposing that property
[15:37] <jgdx> morphis, one pattern is then visible: bluetoothActionGroup.enabled ? bluetoothActionGroup.enabled.state : false
[15:38] <morphis> right
[16:21] <jgdx> faenil, hey, time for one more q?
[16:22] <faenil> jgdx: of course
[16:22] <jgdx> faenil, why does this [1] segfault? Adding selectMode:true makes no difference. [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13216812/
[16:24] <faenil> jgdx: does it segfault without ListItemLayout?
[16:27] <jgdx> faenil, stack: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13216840/
[16:27] <jgdx> I'll check
[16:27] <jgdx> faenil, yes
[16:27] <faenil> jgdx: cool, then it's not me :)
[16:28] <faenil> jgdx: show that to zsombi :)
[16:29] <jgdx> faenil, okay
[16:30] <faenil> jgdx: sorry I couldn't help :/
[16:30] <jgdx> np
[16:33] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, hey, I would appreciate a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/empty-apparmor-hw-profile-dirs/+merge/276749 when you have a moment
[16:44] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: sure
[19:00] <ogra_> hmm, was it on purpose that with the last rc-proposed image the nearby scope doesnt work anymore ?
[19:00] <ogra_> sil2100, jibel ^^
[19:00] <sil2100> uh
[19:01] <ogra_> i mean, it works, but it is completely empty on both phones here
[19:54] <sergiusens> ogra_, fails here too
[19:56] <ogra_> i wonder if it actually started checking the location data ... that has been broken for two or three weeks now
[19:56] <ogra_> :P
[19:58] <davmor2> ogra_: there is a new custom tarball nearby works fine there
[19:59] <davmor2> ogra_: but I don't think the nearby scope was touch so might be something your end
[19:59] <ogra_> davmor2, well, it is on both phones here and sergiusens sees it too
[19:59] <ogra_> i doubt it is my end
[20:00] <davmor2> ogra_: I blame you anyway :P
[20:00] <ogra_> yeah, thats fine ...
[20:01] <sergiusens> ogra_, davmor2 fwiw it works now; I think it just fails on first try; I didn't even get the menu (the one with "I am thirsty" et.al.)
[20:01] <sergiusens> well it seems flaky; maybe one of the scopes in the scope is failing and bringing the whole thing down
[20:02] <ogra_> i get the menu and the header but nothing else
[20:02] <sergiusens> ogra_, right, I refreshed and now nothing
[20:02] <ogra_> sergiusens, what did you do to make it work ?
[20:02] <ogra_> ah
[20:02] <sergiusens> ogra_, I think it is just flaky/timing out
[20:02] <ogra_> i refresh since i got the update and never saw any content
[20:03] <sergiusens> so far I got it once
[20:21] <tvoss> ogra_, location is broken until silo 2 finally lands (in unapproved queue right now)
[20:22] <ogra_> tvoss, ah, nice to know there is a fix ahead
[20:24] <tvoss> ogra_, some minor version hiccup, we accidently removed nm-specifics with a recent cleanup landing
[20:25] <ogra_> ah, i was already wondering
[20:26] <ogra_> (it used to work so nicely in recent times)
[20:51] <davmor2> ogra_: I still blame you
[20:51] <ogra_> snappy will fix it
[20:51] <davmor2> ogra_: \o/
[20:54] <pmcgowan> tvoss, oh its broken in proposed right now? that certainly seems the case
[20:54] <tvoss> pmcgowan, yup, until silo 2 finally lands
[20:54] <ogra_> pmcgowan, it goes nicely hand in hand with the non-working nearby scope ... all fine :)
[20:56] <pmcgowan> oh a tad snarky today
[20:56] <ogra_> heh
[20:56] <ogra_> sorry :)
[20:56] <pmcgowan> tvoss, hey do you know how u-s-c gets proximity events
[20:57] <davmor2> pmcgowan: it's all okay, ogra_ say snappy will fix it
[20:57] <tvoss> pmcgowan, I would think via the platform-api
[20:58] <pmcgowan> tvoss, not smaat enough to see it
[20:58] <tvoss> pmcgowan, let me check
[20:59] <tvoss> pmcgowan, hmmm, seems like powerd is handing out that information
[21:02] <pmcgowan> hmmm, but powerd reported getting that change vent from u-s-c if I am seeing it right
[21:02] <mcphail> davmor2: may I say again, http://themcphails.uk/snappy.jpg
[21:13] <taiebot> Has my request been granted?  https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/617 does that mean this will land in rc-proposed tomorrow?
[21:22] <pmcgowan> taiebot, yeah that will be in the image tonight
[21:22] <pmcgowan> :)
[21:24] <taiebot> pmcgowan: \o/ from my testing this reduces also bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1480877 to a mere hang of few secs instead of 1min
[21:24] <pmcgowan> taiebot, great yeah thats a killer
[21:25] <taiebot> pmcgowan: to remove a silo i suppose it is easier to just reflash the phone
[21:25]  * mcphail might switch to rc-proposed to get that fix
[21:25] <pmcgowan> taiebot, yes although the update should fix things up
[21:26] <pmcgowan> to be safe reflash
[21:26] <taiebot> pmcgowan: thanks i will reflash
[21:26] <pmcgowan> mcphail, we will release to stable hopefully next week
[21:26] <pmcgowan> thats the plan anyway
[21:27] <mcphail> pmcgowan: nice! Thanks
[21:30] <taiebot> pmcgowan, mcphail i predict this landing will make a lot of people happy i have been using my GPS today and it has never worked as well. Switching from here maps, unav, google maps and seeing all those apps properly detecting my location is pretty exciting. Thanks for the hard work!
[21:44] <taiebot> DanChapman i am getting quite a lot of crashes in Dekko what sort of debugging would you like. They happen quite often when i leave/enter the app. I can see the little wifi icon on the top left i click on it to re-connect and the app crash.
[21:46]  * popey hugs taiebot
[21:46] <taiebot> popey why so much love taiebot hugs popey back
[23:06] <harirama> on linux mint, when i install the "ubuntu-touch" meta package, my machine stops booting
[23:06] <harirama> any hints there?
[23:07] <popey> Why are you installing ubuntu-touch?
[23:08] <Guest45809> hi
[23:10] <Guest45809> is ubuntu touch development active for nexus 10
[23:15] <popey> Guest45809, not really. It's not a device we're focussed on
[23:19] <Guest45809> popey: is it worth installing then in that case
[23:20] <popey> i wouldn't
[23:20] <popey> nexus 4, nexus 7 certainly
[23:21] <Guest45809> i have neither :( lol