[15:32] <Yusta> Hi !
[15:33] <Yusta> Helow
[15:38] <Yusta> ware are you !!
[16:00] <dholbach> hey hey
[16:00] <dholbach> starting in a second
[16:02] <puttyn> this not ubuntu-on-air channel
[16:02] <puttyn> am right in here?
[16:02] <puttyn> is why plenary?
[16:02] <dragonbite> dunno
[16:02] <dholbach> let us know if you have questions, just make sure you prefix them with QUESTION:
[16:02] <dholbach> puttyn, dragonbite: my mistake - we normally hang out in #ubuntu-on-air
[16:03] <dholbach> last week was UOS, and I forgot to change channel name
[16:03] <puttyn> dholbach: so we stay here?
[16:03] <dholbach> in any case: we'll pick up the questions from here and from #ubuntu-on-air
[16:03] <dholbach> yep
[16:03] <puttyn> i question in here?
[16:03] <puttyn> cool. thanks much
[16:03] <dholbach> :-)
[16:04] <puttyn> QUESTION: when ubuntu phone in russia?
[16:05] <salil> i am attending such session for first time , what will we be discussing??
[16:05] <dholbach> ask all the questions you might have - we'll try to answer them all :)
[16:05] <dasbeast> Any pending agreements with US carriers you're exploring for Ubuntu phone? Sprint/Tmobile?
[16:06] <salil> how can i contribute to ubuntu community ??
[16:06] <puka_> hi
[16:06] <puka_> this is a irc channel for QandA?
[16:06] <salil> yes
[16:06] <clith> don't forget to prefix your question with "QUESTION:"
[16:06] <ash0> QUESTION:on the what's new in 15.10 statement there was unity8 preview, i upgraded, yet no unity8 :( didn't it make to release candidate?
[16:06] <puka_> oh ok
[16:07] <puka_> QUESTION: i just installed xubuntu on a virtualbox (my main OS is windows 10) it's my first time i use a linux OS.. some tips to learn? wat is terminal? what i do with him?
[16:08] <puttyn> QUESTION: how do you install apps on Ubuntu with mir session? when click install in store not installing
[16:09] <netlore> QUESTION: are there any Intel tablets that lend themselves to running Ubuntu personal... perhaps it's something that could have a compatibility list/installation guide.
[16:09] <salil> terminal is a way you interact with your OS , you can navigate through your files , folders and install applications
[16:09] <puka_> like sudo apt-get install ninja-ide?
[16:09] <salil> yes
[16:09] <puka_> cuz i was searching for a text editor for linux and a guy tell me that and i dont know what to do with this line xD
[16:10] <salil> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[16:10] <puttyn> QUESTION: what is difference between stable, rc-proposed and devel channel and how change channel?
[16:11] <puka_> QEUSTION: it;s worst or better for a beginner( on xubuntu 14.04 i have Python version 2.7)to update to python 3.? i'm a beginner and python it's my first programming language
[16:12] <puttyn> QUESTION: when ubuntu phones new kernel and new ubuntu version? (16.04 maybe)
[16:13] <netlore> @puttyn, stable is the current released version, then there is a release candidate (rc) version whcih is the version getting ready for release as the next "stable"... rc-proposed is rc with proposed changes before they are fully tested...   devel is the current development version, and there is a devel-proposed which has new packages which are waiting to be promoted to devel...   it's basically a hiarchy.
[16:14] <salil> Question : what about lts??
[16:15] <puttyn> netlore: so rc and rc proposed are equivalent of beta and devel alpha?
[16:15] <puttyn> netlore: makes sense
[16:17] <netlore> @puttyn I believe there is a delay shifting from 15.04 ro 15.10/16.04 becuase of the move from click to snappy... as far as I know it's coming, but I couldn't say when.
[16:19] <puttyn> QUESTION: some people install apps on phones using apt-get, is it safe? if not is any safe way to apt-get install?
[16:20] <netlore> @puttyn you have to disable image based updates and make your image read/write to install packages with apt... it's definitely not the recommended way to proceed.
[16:23] <dragonbite> That's what I did in the beginning.. gave myself the challenge to "do everything I do in Windows, in Linux" and it took a while, but is a success
[16:24] <dshimer> QUESTION: Is there top level cooperation / support involving Canonical and Mycroft.  At UOS Ryan Sipes sounded "hopeful" that things would work out but it seems like Canonical should be working hard to get such a promising AI working on the phone and desktop as a first class citizen.
[16:24] <netlore> @popey "do what you normally do", except download random binary packages from web sites and run them... leave that to Windows users.
[16:25] <popey> haha
[16:26] <salil> Question: Is there a way i can run my applications/software from terminal ?
[16:27] <netlore> @salil what platform (phone or desktop), and what app?
[16:27] <salil> Desktop and i was trying to run CODE:BLOCKS IDE
[16:29] <netlore> @popey apparently Teclast X80HD has UEFI bios... for example.
[16:29] <UbuntuFun_de_> QUESTION: When can we expect the first commercial Ubuntu Phone that supports Convergence? And how will be the partner?
[16:29] <nhaines> salil: you just type the name of the executable for that program and press Enter. But it will start new windows and lock the terminal until that app is finished.
[16:30] <nhaines> That can be useful if you want to look for error or status messages, but outside of that it's more fun to run command line and text-based apps in the Terminal. :)
[16:30] <nhaines> nano is a nice text editor, for example.
[16:30] <dholbach> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[16:30] <netlore> @salil yes, you can run apps from the terminal on the desktop... as long as you know the correct binary to run...  remember if it's a graphical app you have to be running on a graphical screen so that the app can open a window.
[16:31] <dholbach> puttyn, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[16:32] <salil> thanks you @netlore and @ nhaines
[16:32] <nhaines> puka_: if "python3" runs, then you have both installed.  If you're learning Python today, it's better to learn Python 3.
[16:32] <puka_> so how i update my py 2.7 to 3?
[16:33] <puka_> is there a apt-get command?
[16:33] <nhaines> puka_: you won't replace python 2.7, you'll just install python 3 alongside it.
[16:34] <nhaines> The first step if to see if python3 is already installed.
[16:34] <nhaines> Because it probably is.
[16:34] <puka_> it;s not
[16:34] <puka_> i do in terminal pyton -V
[16:34] <puka_> and he say python 2.7
[16:34] <nhaines> Instead do 'python3' like I said.
[16:34] <puka_> oh sit
[16:34] <puka_> i have python 3.4.0
[16:35] <puka_> xaxa
[16:35] <nhaines> So now you don't have to choose which to have installed, just which you want to learn.  :)
[16:37] <netlore> QUESTION: have you considered asking people to clarify if their question if for phone/image based systems,or apt-get/.deb based systems.. ;)
[16:38] <dholbach> netlore, sorry - please let us know if we misunderstood the question
[16:42] <dragonbite> QUESTION: How does/will Canonical earn money with the Ubuntu Phone?
[16:42] <nhaines> dragonbite: Canonical gets a license fee for every phone sold, much like Microsoft and Google with Windows and Android phones.
[16:44] <netlore> @dholbach, sorry I was being fecetious... it's just hard to work out what people mean in questions because the answers are different if it's desktop  or phone...
[16:45] <dholbach> netlore, right... it's just that we have a delay between video and irc, so that's why I'm not asking back, waiting, then answering -- I just used my best guess and thought it was generally easy tp spot what was meant :)
[16:45] <dholbach> but maybe I was wrong -- let me know if we should answer a question another time
[16:47] <netlore> @dholbach when I was trying to answer the guy who said "can I run apps from the terminal"... that's not possible from the phone, as far as I know.
[16:48] <dragonbite> Thanks!
[16:49] <nhaines> netlore: just as a general rule, this "@" thing is foreign to IRC.
[16:49] <nhaines> Just mentioning someone's nick will highlight that line in their IRC client.
[16:49] <dragonbite> QUESTION: what's the name of your cat ;)
[16:49] <nhaines> Ooh, that's a good question.  :)
[16:49] <netlore> QUESTION: is the migration from click to snappy for the phone progressing.
[16:49] <popey> https://twitter.com/salempope
[16:50] <yusta> helow
[16:50] <salil> are we going to get ubuntu phones in india??
[16:51] <dholbach> salil, http://ubuntu.snapdeal.com/
[16:51] <nhaines> salil: they are already there, I believe.  :)
[16:51] <Longb> Hey folks. Mr. Pope,  you're looking a bit dark there.
[16:52] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone :)
[16:52] <yusta> Hi World !
[16:52] <yusta> السلام عليكم
[16:53] <UbuntuFun_de_> Thank you Danial and Alan for your time and for giving answers to our quesions. :)
[16:53] <UbuntuFun_de_> a=e
[16:54] <UbuntuFun_de_> +t
[16:54] <UbuntuFun_de_> .... had a long day...
[16:54] <netlore> uNav turn by turn navigation on the phone is working great... :)
[16:54] <popey> thanks everyone!
[16:54] <dholbach> yusta, and the same to you :)
[16:54] <dholbach> thanks UbuntuFun_de_ :)
[16:54] <popey> I do love our time together
[16:54] <salil> thank you for the session
[16:54] <dholbach> yes - it was great fun :)
[16:55] <UbuntuFun_de_> bye
[17:02] <nhaines> netlore: I'm the English voice for UNav. :)
[17:05] <netlore> Ha!, awesome nhaines... I've actually commented to Marcos that the English voice is great..... can you record him "in 1 mile", "in 500 yards", "in 200 yards" etc...   I don't think it gives enough warning sometimes... :)
[17:16] <nhaines> netlore: oh, haha, thanks!  :D
[17:16] <nhaines> The new version does at least give some warning.  :)  I'm always happy to record anything he needs.
[17:25] <netlore> nhaines: I've been driving a lot recently trying it out, and it's actually amazing... although I have seen some things that could be better... like the icon that tells you the next turn is in 34 miles... then says "take the exit" immediately just as you pass it at 90mph in the outside lane... it does need some advance audio reminder.
[17:26] <nhaines> Haha, yeah... that's been improved for surface street speeds but I don't know if it's tailored to current driving speed yet.  File a bug!  :D
[17:28] <netlore> nhaines: I completely broke it by travelling through a grid of roundabouts each 1/4 miles apart at ~80mph as got behind with the audio announcements and was telling me whcih exit to take after I took them...  that was a bit unfair, and it's improving!... I've files a couple of bugs and sent screenshots to Marcos too... when it's safe to take them
[17:31] <nhaines> Yes, always be safe. :)
[17:32] <nhaines> He's a good guy.  I know he loves getting feedback.  He works quite hard on uNav.  That's why I try my best on the audio!
[17:34] <netlore> nhaines: yes, he was very enthusiastic when I started giving feedback on the first version... TBH I took an old Android tablet just incase it didn't work, but it's great.
[17:36] <nhaines> Haha, yeah, I also have my Nexus 7 when I'm testing uNav.  :)  Sadly it's not currently working on just my N7, and my N5 isn't running Ubuntu at the moment.