[00:06] Hey folks. Whats the best desktop recording software for KDE these days? [00:06] i have used krecordmydesktop [00:08] sithlord48: oddly enough i just installed the recordmydesktop (without the k at the begining) and i can't seem to find it in my laucher menu [00:08] iirc its a terminal program w/ a qt or gtk front end [00:09] sithlord48: oh right [00:09] just ran it and it was recording from the commandline [00:09] know... thats cool but i remember a better applications that allowed me to have a UI with options... :s [00:10] the options can be set via the front end. [00:10] perhaps it was one of them [00:10] sithlord48: hmmm... maybe thats the different between krecordmydesktop and recordmydesktop [00:11] I can't seem to find krecordmydesktop in the repo [00:11] or maybe it was record it now [00:12] hmmm that sounds familiar [00:12] record it now "a plugin based desktop recorder for KDE SC4" [00:12] I can't seem to find that in the repo either [00:12] Weird! [00:13] im on arch atm . iirc on kubuntu i had to add a ppa [00:13] I'll do a bit of googling then [00:13] Thanks sithlord48! [00:14] there is also on arch a qt-recordmydesktop package ( a qt front end for record my desktop) [00:14] so you can try that also if you can't find record it now === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [01:50] Is it possible to set specific display to use for a particular Activity? [01:51] Simonious, hazamonzo [03:13] hey folks, how do I set a static IP? [03:13] I'm using XFCE if that helps [03:15] oh god, wrong channel === soupav is now known as zoop [05:06] Anyone know of a how to on setting up a live web server? I have a domain and dons is setup. all the articles I see use local host instead of a domain === kaimon` is now known as kaimon === Steffstoff is now known as Guest6614 === michael__ is now known as Guest37919 [09:21] hey - does this KDE update fix the slow login problem with 15.10 ? -> https://dot.kde.org/2015/11/10/kde-ships-plasma-543-bugfix-release-november [09:27] i.e the main issue with 15.10 now is it takes ages to login to KDE - during which time (about 20 -30 secs) the desktop is unusable and the taskbar icons are not correctly positioned... [09:27] if anyone aware if plasma 5.4.3 fixes this ? [09:29] OpenSuse 42.1 (leap) doesn't have the issue btw (I thought it was the same version of plasma shipped with 15.10 [09:33] yossarianuk: you mean this one:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1509334 ? [09:33] Launchpad bug 1509334 in plasma-nm "[sru] plasma-nm blocks temporarily on startup w/o bluetooth device – KDE/Plasma very slow to launch (Kubuntu 15.10)" [Medium,Fix released] [09:37] salut [09:38] pourquoi le son coupe tres souvent dans mon kubuntu je dois a chaque fois redemmarer mon pc pour qui remarche [09:39] svp aider moi [09:45] kdefanno6: possibly [09:45] kdefanno6: It sounds like it [09:45] kdefanno6: Its a terrible impression for new users.... [09:45] the task bar is garbled until it fully loads ... Looks like KDE is broken. [09:46] cool - I see update is out today [09:46] Will test ! [09:47] il y a pas quelqu'un qui peut me parler en français? [09:48] !fr | younes_ [09:48] younes_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [09:49] Good morning. [10:13] hi I just wondered if anyone could please help with a broken system. I upgraded from 14.10 and now get a kernel panic. I can boot from the older 4.0 kernel just not the new 4.2... I've tried repair mode in grub and also dpkg reconfigure but so far no luck... [10:14] yossarianuk: as in the fix will be in kubuntu today or upstream fixed it? [10:14] i don't have problems like that on my machines at home running on debian unstable :\ [10:14] hi [10:15] i have questione pls === akram is now known as Guest45185 [10:15] how many versions in kubuntu? [10:16] s_20: it seemed to be introduced just before 15.10 release [10:16] I had been running 15.10 for about 2 months before release with no issues until about a week before release date. [10:16] Guest45185: Can you confirm what you mean ? [10:17] i wanna knew about all the versions [10:18] can you help me please [10:24] Guest45185: versions of what ? [10:24] Guest45185: do you mean support version of Kubuntu? [10:24] *supported* [10:30] yes [10:30] yes sir [10:30] can i knew about that [10:30] please [10:32] !lts [10:32] LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) [10:32] !wily [10:32] Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10 - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/wily [10:32] That's it [10:33] 15.04 is support for about 3 months also [10:33] no point installing it though. use 15.10 [10:42] so kubuntu and ubuntu are the same ? [10:43] Guest45185: Just different default packages [10:45] okay . so , kubuntu has more the 12 suppoet versions ? [11:07] Guest45185: no [11:07] Guest45185: the supported versions as of now are 15.04, 15.10 and 14.04 LTS [11:24] « /msg nickserv register chaos3 songfellow1@yahoo.com [11:26] songfellow1: try again [11:44] /msg nickserv register chaos3 songfellow1@yahoo.com [12:12] in kubuntu 14.10 , I had gcr-prompter installed, and whenever I pulled something with git, its graphical prompter came up, asking me for the ssh key passphrase. it loaded that key into the resident ssh-agent. [12:13] in kubuntu 15.10, this doesn't work anymore. I tried setting SSH_ASKPASS, GIT_ASKPASS, core.askpass in gitconfig, nothing works. it still asks me every time the passphrase, and does _not_ automatically insert the key into the ssh-agent. [12:13] any ideas? [12:45] any body around that can help fix an unbootable system? Well it boots from an old kernel, but can't get it to update properly or boot from the newest. also dist-upgrade hasn't finished properly but dpkg reconfigure gives an error. [12:47] jonah: remove the newest then, and use the old one. [12:49] kdefanno6: Hi thanks, but it's also stopping other updates happening... [12:50] hi all [12:52] hi === mozafar is now known as hanibana === hanibana is now known as mozafar === bruno-RDD is now known as Wiz-TDD [13:48] hi there [13:48] I just installed kubuntu 15.10 and I see a few problems : xchat does not appear in the miniature zone when minimised [13:49] I installed hexchat, same result [13:49] skype appears [13:49] Wiz-TDD: by "minituare zone" you mean the systray? [13:50] Hi. [13:50] if that's the case, it's up to each program to do that or not, nothing happens automatically [13:50] Got a 14.04 that's been out of the game for half an year [13:50] what's the best procedure to get it to latest [13:51] I mean do I run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' before the dist-upgrade ? [13:51] sorry had to kill hexchat as I minimized it :( [13:51] 13:49 < s_20> Wiz-TDD: by "minituare zone" you mean the systray? [13:51] 13:50 < s_20> if that's the case, it's up to each program to do that or not, nothing happens automatically [13:52] s_20 not sure I need to check, I am using it in French, [13:52] oh boy. [13:53] Wiz-TDD: probably related to this: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ and potential solution in the future: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/xembed_back [13:54] kdefanno6: if his minimised programs are *gone* he might have removed the task manager widget accidentally [13:54] kdefanno6, looking at the links, thank you, i'll let you know after i read [13:55] s_20, the processes are still running once "gone" from the systray, but can't have them appearing again [13:55] so i kill them and restart :s [13:55] Wiz-TDD: well, *do* you still ahve the task manager widget? [13:57] s_20, as I'm using it in french, I'm not sure what you call the task manager widget : I have all the widgets from the "standard" installation [13:57] on the bottom right, sound/network/powermgmt/instant msg/etc [13:58] s_20, main part of the bottom bar, the applications "icons" [13:59] (clicking on them shows or minimises the application window [13:59] :'(((((((((((((( [14:00] Wiz-TDD: well, soundsl ike you still have the task manager [14:01] but as pointed out in the link from kdefanno6, you probably don't have libappindicator1 and libappindicator3-1 installed [14:01] as (he)xchat uses gtk and not qt, like skype does, that might be a problem [14:02] I'm looking at it [14:04] jubo2: there is no way from 14.04 to 15.10, if that is what you are asking [14:04] jubo2: wait for 16.04, then you can upgrade straight to that [14:04] hateball: what do you mean 'there is no way'? [14:04] I think I can choose to update to non-LTS somewhere [14:05] s_20: No supported way [14:05] You'd need to upgrade to 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10, and 14.10 is EOL so the repos will not work [14:05] maybe this is 14.10 [14:06] where do I check [14:06] jubo2: "lsb_release -a" [14:06] 14.04 [14:07] The least painful option is to wait for next april [14:08] can somebody help me with some pgp and thunderbird problems can't decrypt mails anymore [14:08] Ok so why doesn't find locate httpd.conf? find: `name=httpd.conf': No such file or directory [14:09] hateball: that does seem like a major design flaw [14:10] Hiyas all === bruno-RDD is now known as Wiz-TDD [14:11] s_20: konversation, available in kubuntu baseline seem to work for me... so I guess I will just use that one [14:12] Wiz-TDD: did you try to install these packages? [14:13] s_20: nope, but I do not see the interest as this icr app looks as good as xchat/hexchat [14:16] wuschLOR: Since when are you unable to decrypt mails? [14:16] excalibr: specific screen..? what? is this a #screen question? [14:17] s_20: It's just to do with being able to support various versions [14:18] hateball: well it wouldn't hurt anyone to leave old repistory's as-is [14:19] !eolupgrade | s_20 [14:19] s_20: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [14:19] hateball: i get that [14:20] it just leaves people who have an outdated machine and want to re-activate it hanging high and dry [14:20] which, for lack of a better word, seems kind of un-linux-y === Tm_Tr is now known as Guest15900 [14:35] Heyyy. [14:35] How do I enable that I see what the system is loading when it is stating up? [14:36] Call me oldfashioned but I like GNU/Linukka that way [14:36] jubo2: edit out "quiet splash" in grub [14:37] /etc/grub or something thereabouts.. [14:37] thanks hateball [14:39] jubo2: /etc/defaults/grub and then rebuild the grub config [14:39] err, /etc/default/grub [14:41] ok commented it out [14:41] hateball: how do I "rebuild" the config? [14:41] jubo2: sudo update-grub [14:41] err [14:41] you dont want to comment the whole line out iirc [14:42] I think it expects: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" [14:42] ok [14:42] but I may be wrong ! [14:43] (thats what I am using tho) [14:43] ok [14:43] I reboot [14:46] so how is the new release? [14:46] i'm still on 15.04 for now, until i hear stability [15:11] I need to make reports of httpd logs [15:11] once upon a time I used analog [15:11] but that is too hassle to configure [15:11] any suggestions? [15:15] Logwatch? [15:15] lordievader: doesn't appear in Muon discoverer [15:16] No, it is a package. Not an application, for as far as Muon is concerned. [15:16] jubo2: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-logwatch-log-analyzer-and-reporter-on-a-vps [15:19] lordievader: I think I want an offline tool [15:19] another issue [15:19] Logwatch is an offline tool. [15:20] Got a 32-bit 14.04 that holds nothing of value. I think I want to install 64-bit 15.10 on it [15:21] the problem is that it has a maximum of 2GB RAM [15:21] will it run satisfactorily? [15:21] I gather I cannot upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit [15:21] without installing clean [15:21] You won't notice a difference. [15:21] in the mem usage lordievader? [15:22] jubo2: There is a slight difference, but, in general, unnoticable. [15:22] Ok. [15:22] I think I installfest tonite === WalterN is now known as tiwake [15:51] ohnoes [15:51] something borked my kmail [15:51] I didn't touch it [15:51] It no longer lists messages by date even if I instruct it to [15:52] rather the messages are grouped by sender [15:52] yeah.. really handy if you want to view all messages by sender X but I'd really rather just see my mail sorted by arrival time === gonyere_ is now known as gonyere === epipercepi_ is now known as epipercepi === clivejo_ is now known as clivejo [16:28] I'm not seeing a wifi station in 32-bit Kubuntu14.04 that other OS see quite well [16:28] Could this be an issue with some drivers or firmware not being up-to-date in the 32-bit ? [16:38] Hi! On 15.10 and ThinkPad T430 (top CPU, GPU Intel 4000, SSD, 16GB RAM, no swap), my Google Chrome is extremely laggy, suffers from jerky scrolling and fails to redraw when scrolling or switching between taps. What can I do to resolve the issue? [16:39] I'm pretty sure the Atom processor I have in the netbook is 64-bit but not 100% sure. How do I check? === IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne [17:20] i believe, there are no 32bit atom processors. wikipedia knows for sure. [17:29] Weren't the older ones (first gen) 32 bit? === Dude is now known as Guest80818 [17:58] It might be something I am doing wrong, but I know my netbook with an Atom N550 seems unable to boot a 64-bit distro. [18:10] Hi running kubuntu 15.10 when I use alt+F2 and issue the command kdesudo dolphin I get the password prompt and enter it...then nothing happens..i.e. doesn't start dolphin. Anyone know why this might be? [18:16] It works for me on the daily build, but none of the icons load. And when I picked the detailed tree view, the icons to expand the directories looked different. [18:22] what is the best way to install kde along side unity? I installed (via apt-get) kubuntu-desktop, but now the two greeters are literally fighting each other [18:23] hey peeps [18:23] anyone experimented much with webcams and chat apps? [18:23] Skype recognizes my webcam but HipChat does not [18:24] josharenson: I believe the "greeters" (if you mean things like kdm, lightdm etc.) are supposed to be able to launch the desktop system of your choice, i.e., but at least somewhat agnostic [18:24] not sure about config [18:24] I use lightdm [18:24] I remember there being a little menu at login [18:25] jaafar: yeah I'm actually developing a new greeter which is why I wanted to install multiple DEs in the first place... whats happening now is that I see the unity greeter for a few frames, and then the kde greeter for a few frames [18:25] oh nice [18:25] Oh that's cuckoo [18:25] * jaafar has never seen that [18:25] jaafar: I'll check that the display manager is set to something reasonable though... [18:26] good starting point [18:26] jaafar: its in a VM, but I saw it on my real machine as well [18:31] Hiya.. Trying to install Kubuntu15.10 64-bit on a system with an Atom CPU and installation hangs in the "prepare" stage. Red-blue circly thing just rotates for minutes and minutes [18:31] What could be wrong? [18:32] I'm almost sure it is a 64-bit CPU but not quite certain [18:32] ahh.. now it passed on to next stage. cancel all questions [18:37] jubo2: Good luck. As I said, my Atom N550 will not boot a 64-bit distro for me, but many Atoms can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom_(CPU)#Intel_64_software_support [18:39] now it stopped and complained of either corrupt installation media or corrupt installation target [18:39] I change stick and try again [18:40] for weird reasons I have 2 sticks with the Kubuntu15.10 installer [18:59] Whoops.. [18:59] forgot to plug in my external sound card at install time [18:59] is there way to detect and add it after installation is over [19:00] or do I just open another beer and install again, this time with the sound card plugged in? [19:00] If it's USB should just recognize it [19:01] ( when you plug it in) [19:01] it is USB [19:16] genii: so it seems [19:16] the card works fine when I plug it in [19:18] I want to copy the settings from this fully configured Kubuntu to the newly installed Kubuntu [19:18] if that is sane [19:19] I grab ~/.local/ ? [19:21] and probablt ~/.kde [19:21] *probably [19:22] ok === genii is now known as fishbot === fishbot is now known as genii === rudydog is now known as monkeyjuice [19:57] Hello [19:57] I want to know how to refresh KDE menu icons [19:58] I still have icons dating from the installtion, 2 years ago [19:58] which kubu version? [19:58] 15.10 [19:59] encolpe_: is it using Plasma workspaces or Plasma 5 [20:01] denza252: good question [20:02] encolpe_: you mentioned that it was installed 2 years ago [20:02] so I'm assuming you updated it from like, 13.something [20:02] from 13.10, yes [20:03] plasma desktop 5.4 [20:04] whoa, good job first of all [20:04] whenever I try updating my system breaks :x [20:04] I'm trying to check [20:04] second, encolpe_, is it just your menu which has old icons? [20:04] I took me one week to repair cryptsetup [20:06] Yes [20:06] denza252: I managed to 15.04 -> 15.10 with only couple of days of swearing [20:06] firefox has loose its icon, too [20:07] hmm [20:07] For the history, i'm migrating debian systems since 1996 (10 years with sid before coming on ubuntu) [20:08] encolpe_: try kbuildsycoca5--noincremental [20:11] encolpe_: er, there should be a space between kbuildsycoa5 and --noincremental [20:11] yes :) [20:12] Good morning [20:12] g'moring svend-ev === andrewf is now known as Guest59231 [20:39] denza252: All icons that are in /usr/share/pixmaps are not shown in the menu [20:46] is there place where an icon path is set ? === Steffstoff is now known as Guest6093 === jack is now known as Guest44393 [21:37] Hi, I've searched youtube, google etc. for this but was unable to find an answer. Are stopped activities still a functionality in Plasma 5? I've just upgraded to the latest kf5 (been using it for 8 months) and all I see next to activities is an "X", no "stop" button, and clicking the X gets everything buddy and I need to restart plasma-desktop as a whole [21:37] /s/buddy/buggy/ [21:41] Is the "X" the way to stop an activity at all? Some online forums suggested so, and the global keyboard shortcut, meta+S, does nothing [21:41] schestowitz: The X is to stop the activities. Once they are stopped they'll get a trashcan icon instead, if you want to delete them. Dunno about the buggyness. [21:42] Maybe it's just me, I'm not even sure how to describe such a bug [21:43] What happens when you click the X? Crashing, freezing? [21:43] to reproduce it I guess it takes my setup, which isn't unique. the activities thing showing vertically is just hanging, or become transparent and permanently covering everything. it has been like this since April when I first moved to kf5 (upgraded many time since, to no avail) [21:44] technically, nothing happens when suggests that the activity got stopped, and then the "Activities" thing (along the side) just gets stuck, I wonder if I'm only among few experienceing and if so, what we have in common [21:44] as it hasn't been fixed since April at the latest [21:45] is meta+S supposed to work? [21:45] It has absolutely no effect when I click it, even when I set up an alternative keyboard shortcut and use that [21:46] I use the just-released KDE/Plasma... from backported repo... which behaves the same way every plasma built prior to this behaved. [21:47] Hm, might be worthwile putting up a bug report for it. Activities are working pretty smoothly here. Except the meta-s shortcut, but it might be enough to change the shortcut. [21:47] I've just reproduced this again. In this build, the whole of plasma becomes unresponsive, clicking even the panel has no effect [21:48] and Activities freezed where it was when "X" was clicked. [21:49] I tried submitting a bug report, but not sure what to submit that will help reproduce it [21:50] Do you use activity icon? Might this have anything to do with causing the bug? [21:51] I'll see if I can come up with a useful report. All I can say for now is, always buggy for me, necessitating restart of the whole of plasma.. :-( [23:33] how do you install the latest version of Plasma? I mean 5.4.3 is brand new almost, I am just curious if Kubuntu 15.10 will get it normally or would I need a PPA for it? [23:34] I still have a few minor bugs with plasma 5.4 so hopefully the latest version squashes those. [23:42] MichaelTun: See this blog - http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/kubuntu-kde-5-4-3-bugfix-release-available-now-in-wily-backports/