[04:26] <dcbane> good evening
[04:26] <dcbane> earlier...
[05:04] <pieter2627> morning all
[05:32] <theblazehen> hi pieter2627 
[05:33] <anton> morning
[05:33] <theblazehen> sup anton 
[05:33] <pieter2627> hi theblazehen
[05:33] <pieter2627> hows the studing going?
[05:33] <theblazehen> Going alright, thanks
[05:34] <pieter2627> haha
[05:51] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:00] <pieter2627> hi thatgraemeguy
[06:19] <dcbane> hello again pieter2627
[06:20] <pieter2627> hi dcbane
[06:20] <dcbane> sup
[06:22] <pieter2627> not much, just hope it wont be so hot today
[06:22] <pieter2627> and self
[06:22] <dcbane> not too shabby
[06:54] <inetpro> oh my, have I said good mornings yet?
[06:55] <inetpro> hello everybody
[06:59] <theblazehen> hi inetpro 
[07:24] <dcbane> { inetpro } oh my, have I said good mornings yet? <-- you just did
[07:25] <inetpro> dcbane: how're things going there?
[07:43] <Kilos> hi superfly inetpro pieter2627 thatgraemeguy theblazehen TinuvaMac skokkk MaNI dcbane dlPhreak danfowler Cryterion  ambo  anton aquarat and whoever i missed
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz cffee on
[07:44] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[07:44] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[07:44] <anton> mornings
[07:44] <MaNI> hi
[07:44] <Kilos> ai!
[07:44] <pieter2627> lol
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[07:44]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:44] <pieter2627> hi Kilos
[07:44] <pieter2627> and morning inetpro
[07:45] <theblazehen> Be back later, cheers guys
[07:45] <Kilos> ok lad
[07:45] <Kilos> i sukkeled yesterday
[07:46] <Kilos> sim in modem forgot how to use data
[07:46] <inetpro> wb oom Kilos
[07:46] <Kilos> telkom says do a sim swop
[07:46] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[07:47] <Kilos> it seems some thing in xp i have on one drive for doing work that xp does best has a bug in thats now killed 2 sim cards
[07:47] <Kilos> so its now wiped
[07:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:48] <Kilos> hi dupingping hows china?
[07:48] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[07:48] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:11] <thatgraemeguy> hi kilos
[09:22] <Squirm> Good morning
[09:25] <Squirm> Was wondering if someone here could give me any ideas. We have a dashboard hosted internally, but it's also accessible from the outside. How would I use the same DNS name for both?
[09:44] <thatgraemeguy> Squirm: so externally the name resolves to an internet ip and internally the same name resolves to an internal ip?
[09:44] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: That's what I want
[09:45] <thatgraemeguy> what do you use for name resolution internally?
[09:45] <Squirm> The problem is our router doesn't route our external IP when I try and connect to it from the inside
[09:45] <thatgraemeguy> no, it won't
[09:45] <Squirm> We have a dns server
[09:45] <Squirm> Moving to bind soon
[09:46] <thatgraemeguy> on your dns server you create a zone with the FQDN of the relevant name and set the A record to the internal ip
[09:46] <Squirm> We do that already
[09:46] <thatgraemeguy> um, then it ought to work
[09:47] <Squirm> It does
[09:47] <Squirm> But it's maintaining all of our zones :D
[09:47] <thatgraemeguy> then I don't understand the question
[09:49] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: I wondered if it was possible to have one zone, that could manage internal and external addresses
[09:50] <thatgraemeguy> you mean have the answer be different based on the querying client ip?
[09:50] <Squirm> Yes, something like that
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> hrmmm ok
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> sorry, no idea :)
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> the normal solution here is that your internal DNS serves internal people and external DNS serves external people
[09:51] <Squirm> Haven't found anything on the Google, so just thought I'd get some ideas :D
[09:51] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: that's what we have
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> yes i know
[09:52] <anton> yip u will have to have 2 dns servers running for ur problem
[09:52] <thatgraemeguy> I'm just re-iterating that that is the way I've always seen it done :)
[09:52] <Squirm> :P
[09:52] <Squirm> I know
[09:52] <Squirm> anton: seems like it
[09:52] <anton> our external is hosted with afrihost then our normal bind for internal
[09:53] <Squirm> anton: Yeah, we use Amazon's Route53
[09:54] <anton> other possible solution is to run a logon script with hosts forced when they are at the office?
[09:57] <Squirm> anton: I suppose the goal was to get away from having two DNS servers
[09:57]  * Squirm shrugs
[09:58] <anton> nope not for a while i'm afraid
[09:59] <Squirm> All's well
[10:22] <inetpro> Squirm: you could always update the 1001 internal clients' local hosts file with a static entry to the internal address :-)
[10:23] <inetpro> that would not be a very good idea though
[10:23] <inetpro> maintaining an internal DNS server is really the way to go and not so difficult at all
[10:29] <Squirm> inetpro: I know
[10:29] <Squirm> But it's a cool idea :D
[12:10] <pieter2627> Squirm: can the internal clients access it using the external address?
[12:50] <Squirm> pieter2627: yeah. But not from internally
[12:51] <pieter2627> hmm, why?
[12:52] <pieter2627> my internal clients can access the home server using its external address...
[12:52] <pieter2627> so thought that you might be able to use that... together with some iptables maybe
[18:31] <superfly> my trackpad is a bit crazy tonight
[18:39] <gremble> Has it tried to kill your cat because you aren't twiddling it often enough?
[18:42] <inetpro> goeienaand
[19:21] <Squirm> Evening
[19:58] <gremble> Hey Squirm 
[22:03] <magespawn> exit