| melodie | hello | 12:23 |
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| craig__ | hello :) | 12:24 |
| melodie | I would like to have your support for a bug report I did: the purpose is to keep the size of the isos delivered as low as possible (Bento Openbox which I develop, especially but not limited to it) | 12:24 |
| craig__ | what can i do to help | 12:25 |
| melodie | so what I need is people who check and who supports a bug report I posted, about libgtk3-0, because I could not build an iso without having any gtk program pulling in lots of depends | 12:25 |
| melodie | hi craig__ | 12:25 |
| melodie | here is the bug report number: | 12:25 |
| melodie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709 | 12:26 |
| melodie | what would be needed as a test, would be something such as installing the same set of packages I use, in virtualbox for instance and starting from the officila mini.iso | 12:26 |
| melodie | official | 12:26 |
| melodie | using Wily Edition | 12:27 |
| craig__ | will have a look tonight when i get home | 12:27 |
| melodie | nice! | 12:27 |
| melodie | shall I give the links here now? | 12:27 |
| melodie | mini iso 32bits for instance can be found here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ | 12:28 |
| melodie | and the list of packages I can provide on pastebin? | 12:28 |
| craig__ | thanks i will manage | 12:28 |
| melodie | are you used to perform minimal installs? | 12:32 |
| melodie | anyway thank you very much | 12:32 |
| melodie | I hope I can find a few persons on the two Africa and ZA chans, as it's the very place where bandwidth matters! (even if in many countrysides in France it does matter too) | 12:33 |
| melodie | I read recently that France among all europeen countries belong to the places where the internet connexions are the most terrible, just besides Italy and Greece. :~/ | 12:34 |
| craig__ | not used to minimal installs but i am sure i can manage | 12:38 |
| craig__ | my home connection in Zimbabwe is pretty good around 2 Mbs | 12:39 |
| melodie | yes sure | 12:40 |
| melodie | anyway I have used lots of time at some point a pair of years ago, to pinpoing which packages where absolutely necessary in order for an install to function properly (just 3 packages were missing at that time in fact, in my install). I did this with a looong diff between the filesystem.manifest of my iso and the one of lubuntu iso. (with some options to make it easier to compare, however it took me some time 3 days on a row) | 12:42 |
| melodie | of course I am willing to share | 12:42 |
| melodie | welcome back craig__ | 12:53 |
| craig__ | we have many powercuts here, now on generator | 13:06 |
| melodie | craig__ is that your work place? | 13:16 |
| melodie | have you been able to get what I told you last, about the time I used to pinpoint the necessary packages? | 13:18 |
| Kilos | hi craig__ melodie | 13:31 |
| Kilos | sorry im so slowq. very busy on cell with banks | 13:32 |
| melodie | hi here Kilos | 13:32 |
| melodie | cell with banks: doing your accounting in a spreadsheet? | 13:32 |
| Kilos | nono | 13:32 |
| Kilos | cell phone to bank to try get my online banking app to work properly | 13:33 |
| melodie | cell phones are dangerous for the security of your data | 13:33 |
| Kilos | and very hot here so even brain is sluggish | 13:33 |
| melodie | you might want to avoid using that kind of tool for money related things | 13:34 |
| Kilos | im online with my pc but this bank uses your cell to verify things | 13:34 |
| melodie | it can be very easily hacked I was told | 13:34 |
| melodie | doesn't it just send you a sms when you need a verification on something you buy online? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | like, when i login with pc i get an immediate sms that account has been opened | 13:35 |
| melodie | for what purpose? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | no it sends smsses everytime i want to change anything online | 13:35 |
| craig__ | yes melodie i am at work at the moment | 13:36 |
| craig__ | Hi Kilos | 13:36 |
| melodie | craig__ ok | 13:36 |
| Kilos | then i have to choose approve or reject | 13:36 |
| melodie | craig__ I am cleaning up my file script, the one that contains info about the packages I need to install for that minimal install (which in reality is about building Bento Openbox but I can't tell them about that on the bug report, because they don't give a damn about remixes, however my bug report can help all editions to get lighter on space) | 13:37 |
| melodie | <Kilos> then i have to choose approve or reject // they could not do that over here, the people would scream | 13:38 |
| melodie | it looks like they are not trusting the skills of their users, isn't it? | 13:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:38 |
| Kilos | they actually seem quite secure because one needs to login with a pin number and then a password and still have to have the registered fone to approve/reject any transaction | 13:40 |
| melodie | the last part is a bit too much | 13:40 |
| Kilos | yeah very frustating | 13:40 |
| melodie | what if the guy does not possess a mobile phone? | 13:40 |
| melodie | or does not want to have one? | 13:40 |
| Kilos | then you cant do o nline banking | 13:41 |
| melodie | can't afford, or generally doesn't need one | 13:41 |
| melodie | it's too much power in the hands of the banks me thinks | 13:41 |
| Kilos | the whole internet banking seems to be closely linked to mobile use as well | 13:41 |
| Kilos | yes i agree, they live on the power they have | 13:42 |
| Kilos | and abuse it as well | 13:42 |
| Kilos | they charge us to put money in and take it out | 13:42 |
| Kilos | thats why im using online, its much cheaper | 13:43 |
| Kilos | atm and bank transactions cost | 13:43 |
| melodie | elacheche ? | 14:33 |
| elacheche | Hey melodie ! | 14:39 |
| elacheche | I was away.. Just come back from a training x) | 14:40 |
| elacheche | How can I help? | 14:40 |
| melodie | hi elacheche | 14:49 |
| melodie | you might be able to help about a bug report against libgtk3-0 and I have another question related to a company which I am curious about | 14:50 |
| melodie | the bug report: | 14:50 |
| melodie | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709 | 14:50 |
| melodie | I am seeking for testimonials on this bug report because I would like to see gtk3 stay a bit more sober | 14:51 |
| melodie | if it goes bloated this will feel hard on the size of future ISOs (which is a bummer considering the bandwidth in many places in the world, and not only in African countries btw) | 14:52 |
| melodie | even if the hard drives tend to be very huge | 14:52 |
| melodie | in disk space | 14:52 |
| melodie | so for this one bug report I am seeking for as many helpers as I will be able to find | 14:53 |
| elacheche | Let me take a look | 14:57 |
| melodie | elacheche yes sure | 15:12 |
| elacheche | I don't know ho I can help on that melodie | 15:47 |
| melodie | elacheche you could if you would occasionally need very lean setups, starting from a mini.iso (which is a netinstall) | 15:48 |
| melodie | for a desktop, and you would notice any gtk app pulls in several hundred megabytes of depends | 15:48 |
| elacheche | OK | 15:49 |
| melodie | I'm about to retry now, in a chroot | 15:50 |
| melodie | would you have any time and interest for that? (at some point in the next days or weeks?) | 15:51 |
| melodie | I can provide my script/draft? | 15:51 |
| elacheche | no idea melodie :/ I have many days of training AFK :/ | 15:56 |
| melodie | AFK : away from keyboard? | 15:58 |
| elacheche | yep | 16:09 |
| melodie | ok | 16:17 |
| melodie | :) | 16:17 |
| melodie | I have asked a question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+question/274092 | 17:40 |
| Na3iL | Yo melodie , you asked me last time to help you with your ToDo list.. Paste it | 18:01 |
| melodie | yes! | 18:02 |
| melodie | http://bentovillage.me/todo/ | 18:02 |
| melodie | http://bentovillage.me/todo/en | 18:02 |
| melodie | same two languages | 18:02 |
| melodie | 9 todo | 18:03 |
| melodie | 5 ideas | 18:03 |
| melodie | 14 notes | 18:03 |
| melodie | ... | 18:03 |
| Na3iL | Just wondering why you don't just use wiki pages instead of Wordpress as cms. | 18:04 |
| melodie | I hate wiki formatting, slows down the writing process | 18:05 |
| Na3iL | Hmm, okay | 18:06 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:08 |
| Na3iL | So, there's another 9 articles to translate from EN to FR? | 18:09 |
| Na3iL | o/ inetpro | 18:09 |
| melodie | brb | 18:10 |
| Na3iL | tyt | 18:10 |
| melodie | Na3iL I'll go to an fro, from keyboard to dinner (eating by bits right now) | 18:19 |
| Na3iL | Take your time melodie we talk later | 18:20 |
| Na3iL | Same here, it is my dinner time :) | 18:20 |
| melodie | :) | 18:21 |
| melodie | have a nice meal! Bon appétit ! | 18:22 |
| Na3iL | Merci bien mon ami :) à toi aussi | 18:22 |
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