[12:23] hello [12:24] hello :) [12:24] I would like to have your support for a bug report I did: the purpose is to keep the size of the isos delivered as low as possible (Bento Openbox which I develop, especially but not limited to it) [12:25] what can i do to help [12:25] so what I need is people who check and who supports a bug report I posted, about libgtk3-0, because I could not build an iso without having any gtk program pulling in lots of depends [12:25] hi craig__ [12:25] here is the bug report number: [12:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709 [12:26] what would be needed as a test, would be something such as installing the same set of packages I use, in virtualbox for instance and starting from the officila mini.iso [12:26] official [12:27] using Wily Edition [12:27] will have a look tonight when i get home [12:27] nice! [12:27] shall I give the links here now? [12:28] mini iso 32bits for instance can be found here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [12:28] and the list of packages I can provide on pastebin? [12:28] thanks i will manage [12:32] are you used to perform minimal installs? [12:32] anyway thank you very much [12:33] I hope I can find a few persons on the two Africa and ZA chans, as it's the very place where bandwidth matters! (even if in many countrysides in France it does matter too) [12:34] I read recently that France among all europeen countries belong to the places where the internet connexions are the most terrible, just besides Italy and Greece. :~/ [12:38] not used to minimal installs but i am sure i can manage [12:39] my home connection in Zimbabwe is pretty good around 2 Mbs [12:40] yes sure [12:42] anyway I have used lots of time at some point a pair of years ago, to pinpoing which packages where absolutely necessary in order for an install to function properly (just 3 packages were missing at that time in fact, in my install). I did this with a looong diff between the filesystem.manifest of my iso and the one of lubuntu iso. (with some options to make it easier to compare, however it took me some time 3 days on a row) [12:42] of course I am willing to share [12:53] welcome back craig__ [13:06] we have many powercuts here, now on generator [13:16] craig__ is that your work place? [13:18] have you been able to get what I told you last, about the time I used to pinpoint the necessary packages? [13:31] hi craig__ melodie [13:32] sorry im so slowq. very busy on cell with banks [13:32] hi here Kilos [13:32] cell with banks: doing your accounting in a spreadsheet? [13:32] nono [13:33] cell phone to bank to try get my online banking app to work properly [13:33] cell phones are dangerous for the security of your data [13:33] and very hot here so even brain is sluggish [13:34] you might want to avoid using that kind of tool for money related things [13:34] im online with my pc but this bank uses your cell to verify things [13:34] it can be very easily hacked I was told [13:35] doesn't it just send you a sms when you need a verification on something you buy online? [13:35] like, when i login with pc i get an immediate sms that account has been opened [13:35] for what purpose? [13:35] no it sends smsses everytime i want to change anything online [13:36] yes melodie i am at work at the moment [13:36] Hi Kilos [13:36] craig__ ok [13:36] then i have to choose approve or reject [13:37] craig__ I am cleaning up my file script, the one that contains info about the packages I need to install for that minimal install (which in reality is about building Bento Openbox but I can't tell them about that on the bug report, because they don't give a damn about remixes, however my bug report can help all editions to get lighter on space) [13:38] then i have to choose approve or reject // they could not do that over here, the people would scream [13:38] it looks like they are not trusting the skills of their users, isn't it? [13:38] lol [13:40] they actually seem quite secure because one needs to login with a pin number and then a password and still have to have the registered fone to approve/reject any transaction [13:40] the last part is a bit too much [13:40] yeah very frustating [13:40] what if the guy does not possess a mobile phone? [13:40] or does not want to have one? [13:41] then you cant do o nline banking [13:41] can't afford, or generally doesn't need one [13:41] it's too much power in the hands of the banks me thinks [13:41] the whole internet banking seems to be closely linked to mobile use as well [13:42] yes i agree, they live on the power they have [13:42] and abuse it as well [13:42] they charge us to put money in and take it out [13:43] thats why im using online, its much cheaper [13:43] atm and bank transactions cost [14:33] elacheche ? [14:39] Hey melodie ! [14:40] I was away.. Just come back from a training x) [14:40] How can I help? [14:49] hi elacheche [14:50] you might be able to help about a bug report against libgtk3-0 and I have another question related to a company which I am curious about [14:50] the bug report: [14:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709 [14:51] I am seeking for testimonials on this bug report because I would like to see gtk3 stay a bit more sober [14:52] if it goes bloated this will feel hard on the size of future ISOs (which is a bummer considering the bandwidth in many places in the world, and not only in African countries btw) [14:52] even if the hard drives tend to be very huge [14:52] in disk space [14:53] so for this one bug report I am seeking for as many helpers as I will be able to find [14:57] Let me take a look [15:12] elacheche yes sure [15:47] I don't know ho I can help on that melodie [15:48] elacheche you could if you would occasionally need very lean setups, starting from a mini.iso (which is a netinstall) [15:48] for a desktop, and you would notice any gtk app pulls in several hundred megabytes of depends [15:49] OK [15:50] I'm about to retry now, in a chroot [15:51] would you have any time and interest for that? (at some point in the next days or weeks?) [15:51] I can provide my script/draft? [15:56] no idea melodie :/ I have many days of training AFK :/ [15:58] AFK : away from keyboard? [16:09] yep [16:17] ok [16:17] :) [17:40] I have asked a question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+question/274092 [18:01] Yo melodie , you asked me last time to help you with your ToDo list.. Paste it [18:02] yes! [18:02] http://bentovillage.me/todo/ [18:02] http://bentovillage.me/todo/en [18:02] same two languages [18:03] 9 todo [18:03] 5 ideas [18:03] 14 notes [18:03] ... [18:04] Just wondering why you don't just use wiki pages instead of Wordpress as cms. [18:05] I hate wiki formatting, slows down the writing process [18:06] Hmm, okay [18:08] good evening [18:09] So, there's another 9 articles to translate from EN to FR? [18:09] o/ inetpro [18:10] brb [18:10] tyt [18:19] Na3iL I'll go to an fro, from keyboard to dinner (eating by bits right now) [18:20] Take your time melodie we talk later [18:20] Same here, it is my dinner time :) [18:21] :) [18:22] have a nice meal! Bon appétit ! [18:22] Merci bien mon ami :) à toi aussi