| OerHeks | I have no question, is it oke to ask a non-question? | 00:59 |
|---|---|---|
| OerHeks | *hips* | 00:59 |
| daftykins | that one needed euthanising ;) | 01:03 |
| wileee | ahh, nothing like a mod ban for real satisfaction | 01:04 |
| wileee | a lobotomy | 01:04 |
| wileee | err maybe that was the cause, we never know | 01:05 |
| Bashing-om | some just do not take a gentle hint . | 01:06 |
| wileee | the freaks come out at night somewhere | 01:11 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:17 |
| daftykins | i can't believe Mozilla are taking tab groups out of Firefox :( | 01:17 |
| daftykins | it'll be some time yet, v45... but that's still sad | 01:18 |
| wileee | I use speed dial, never checked ff | 01:19 |
| wileee | less addons the better however | 01:19 |
| daftykins | nn folks! :) | 01:31 |
| OerHeks | :-) | 01:38 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:59 |
| Latrodectus | good morning to you | 05:04 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Latrodectus | 05:13 |
| wileee | morning | 05:20 |
| lotuspsychje | morning wileee :p | 05:24 |
| wileee | ;) | 05:25 |
| wileee | mothership says no on a perfect world, takes all the fun out | 05:44 |
| * wileee adjust the tinfoil beret | 05:45 | |
| * lotuspsychje looks to the sky for aliens | 05:51 | |
| Latrodectus | why look to the skys for aliens when you can just look in the mirror... | 06:18 |
| Latrodectus | http://www.wired.com/2015/11/cia-email-hackers-return-with-major-law-enforcement-breach/ lol | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | good noon to all | 10:58 |
| cfhowlett | evening ... | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | hey cfhowlett how are you doing today | 11:09 |
| cfhowlett | another day at the races and I'm tired of the upskirt view of the rat in front ... | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: what kind of races going on? | 11:11 |
| cfhowlett | rat races! they don't have those where you live/? | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | no we dont lol | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | we have horses here, but not so popular | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | car/motorcycle races we have | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: did you ever win $$$ with the rats? | 11:13 |
| cfhowlett | nah. in the rat race, you're lucky if you get your customary hourly wage on time. | 11:14 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 11:14 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: man i downloaded a movie from http://torrentsmovies.net | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: lets not do that here | 11:31 |
| EriC^^ | wth it asks for a password | 11:31 |
| lotuspsychje | pm | 11:31 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey lotuspsychje | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl dinnertime | 12:19 |
| daftykins | hey all \o | 14:46 |
| lotuspsychje | hey daftykins | 14:46 |
| TJ- | afternoon :) | 14:47 |
| daftykins | new OS for my xbox and new build of windows 10 for official release today :O | 14:47 |
| daftykins | i trust upgrades for a console as much as i do a PC, so i'll be letting it install then performing a factory reset :D | 14:48 |
| TJ- | which reinstalls the original OS :D | 14:55 |
| daftykins | "welcome to XP" | 14:55 |
| daftykins | noooooo | 14:55 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 14:55 |
| daftykins | one thing i have done is left that game install HDD disconnected ;) | 14:56 |
| TJ- | good plan Sherlock | 14:57 |
| TJ- | After last time you don't need to be messing about | 14:57 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl shop | 14:58 |
| TJ- | I'm trying get hold of a replacement for the ancient M34510E8 MCU so I can copy the code from the old one and test it on the workbench, and maybe improve the program a bit. Might have to invest in a Linux freezer | 14:59 |
| TJ- | I think I could just swap in an Arduino or RasPi actually :) | 14:59 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:00 |
| TJ- | I'm reverse-engineering the file format for the Windows InstallShield .Z files right now, so I can extract some ancient emulator/programmer tooling from Renesys for the range of MCUs it belongs to | 15:00 |
| daftykins | hehe, well if you need someone to quickly run something on Windows to pinch the files out of, i'd be happy to :) | 15:01 |
| TJ- | Well, all the controller had to do is read 3 thermistors, switch 4 mains outputs (condensor, evaporator fan, defrost heaters, read 4 GPIO buttons and write to an LCD display | 15:02 |
| TJ- | Oh, I could do it with wine, but the installer wants a licence acceptence and I don't want to accept the terms - I just need the spec for this MCU :) | 15:03 |
| TJ- | I enjoy reverse-engineering file formats anyhow; not done one in ages | 15:03 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:05 |
| TJ- | I've just finished decoding the headers and writing a program to display them cleanly so I can deduce the next layer | 15:06 |
| daftykins | that's dedication! i'd have whipped up a disposable VM ;) | 15:08 |
| TJ- | The Linux tools don't know how to read the format, but the magic is known, so as its pretty trivial I may as well write a library for it | 15:20 |
| Guest74872 | hi, please help, career wise how ubuntu helpful over windows ? | 15:59 |
| TJ- | Linux implies you're able to think for yourself :) | 16:00 |
| Guest74872 | TJ-: what does that mean | 16:01 |
| Guest74872 | TJ-: i dont to be a end user on windows/ubuntu, i want to be developer or programmer and make a career, so does everyone here | 16:01 |
| Guest74872 | kindly help, currently direction less, i knew it is very basic question, most of the time discussed , u see we are new audience here now, we missed that discuss that out bad luck | 16:02 |
| daftykins | i take it 'here' isn't this channel, because i don't want to be a dev. | 16:02 |
| Guest74872 | do so there are documentation or archive of such discussion | 16:03 |
| daftykins | who are 'we' ? i have no idea what you mean. | 16:03 |
| Guest74872 | we means we all | 16:03 |
| daftykins | also what language do you speak? you're quite hard to follow | 16:03 |
| Guest74872 | we not only use but we further develop | 16:03 |
| daftykins | we are legion. | 16:04 |
| Guest74872 | career wise, apart from unix admin, what we could be ? please tell me | 16:04 |
| daftykins | i think you'd be better off with #ubuntu-offtopic | 16:05 |
| Guest74872 | dear from #ubuntu told to go #ubuntu-discuss and now to #ubuntu-offtopic | 16:06 |
| Guest74872 | hope i will get help | 16:06 |
| daftykins | well you see, the topic is discussion of ubuntu | 16:10 |
| TJ- | Guest74872: if you want to be a developer find an area of Ubuntu you're interested in, pull in the source code, and explore. | 16:11 |
| TJ- | Guest74872: learn about and practice with the tools that Ubuntu/Linux provides you. Learn about how a Linux system is built and its file-system organised. Learn about how the Linux kernel presents devices and services to userspace. The possibilities are endless | 16:13 |
| Guest74872 | TJ-: scripting like bash, ksh, awt , sed are my secondary skills | 16:15 |
| Guest74872 | not full time job | 16:16 |
| Guest74872 | i am oracle guy, full time on plsql | 16:16 |
| Guest74872 | i schedule tasks under unix | 16:16 |
| Guest74872 | secondary skillset is not my full time job | 16:17 |
| TJ- | Guest74872: the easiest way to learn is pick a subject are you're interested in and develop code for that | 16:17 |
| Guest74872 | can scripting be made full time job ? | 16:18 |
| TJ- | no, it's a part of general system administration | 16:18 |
| Guest74872 | in general databased are installed on servers, servers on mostly unix, unix will system admin and databases will database admin | 16:20 |
| Guest74872 | it above situation, how many servers do company have, so how many system admins and how many database admin (dba) | 16:21 |
| Guest74872 | hardly 5 servers if so, then 4-5 system admin and 4-5 dbas ...........where do programmers or developers fit and what work they do is my question | 16:22 |
| TJ- | programmers and write and package the code the sys/dbs-admins use | 16:26 |
| TJ- | s/programmers and/programmers and developers/ | 16:26 |
| Guest74872 | what are chances of application programmer (business logic ) under unix rather than system programmer ( developing tools, utils ...) | 16:27 |
| TJ- | there are many more application programmers than system programmers | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: what kind of games you play on xbox? | 17:59 |
| daftykins | mmm a lot really, Halo... co-op zombie survival thing with two local friends, racing games... platformers... puzzle games :D | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: first person shooters? | 18:01 |
| daftykins | yeah sometimes | 18:02 |
| daftykins | i just grabbed this latest Halo 5 the other day | 18:02 |
| daftykins | this new OS is so much faster on this console now, i'm letting it download an older xbox360 game to test out the PPC emulation now :) | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | grabbed from the store yeah :p | 18:02 |
| daftykins | yep, usually i order online but i spent the extra £6 this time to support a local shop | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 18:03 |
| daftykins | £33.33 delivered from amazon UK, or £39.99 locally :D | 18:03 |
| daftykins | there's a new Tomb Raider out tomorrow that looks good, too | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ohhhh lara rrrr | 18:04 |
| daftykins | haha | 18:04 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:04 |
| daftykins | i should probably focus more on work than games :P | 18:04 |
| * lotuspsychje throws lara in OerHeks's neck | 18:04 | |
| daftykins | reminds me, i need to quote for a patch panel, switch and cabling now | 18:05 |
| OerHeks | oh no, now the nerds are going after me | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | there are nerds here?? | 18:05 |
| daftykins | XD | 18:06 |
| TJ- | I don't know how you guys find time for games ! | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: we all have multiple screens like your layout :p | 18:07 |
| TJ- | but how do you find *time* to play? | 18:07 |
| daftykins | TJ-: by not really having a proper day job sadly :) | 18:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !life | TJ- | 18:07 |
| ubot5 | TJ-: life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic | 18:07 |
| TJ- | I can understand if they were casual games, but those that require hours of play to get anywhere...! | 18:07 |
| daftykins | hehe | 18:08 |
| TJ- | life is offtopic - ubottu can eat my butt! | 18:08 |
| daftykins | it's quite a neat way to keep up with some friends who live in England, too | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: the more advanced gamers run through levels faster :p | 18:08 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: my partner plays games so I know - he has no time for life! | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | depends wich game of course | 18:08 |
| TJ- | bloody WoW! | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | like WOW | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont understand those big $$$ spend time-eating games | 18:09 |
| TJ- | I can about find time to play Freecell a couple of times a week :) | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:10 |
| TJ- | I've just had a lot more fun trying to figure out why my structure definition for this file-format I'm reverse-engineering was 'stepping' over some bytes, making the following fields pick up the wrong data... then I realised I hadn't told te compiler to 'pack' the structure so 16-bit values were being aligned to 32-bits, shifting everything after along by 2 bytes | 18:11 |
| daftykins | ah see i can't tolerate those big ones that are life and soul sucking :) | 18:11 |
| * lotuspsychje facepalms | 18:12 | |
| daftykins | puka is really annoying me | 18:12 |
| TJ- | right, well, now more life calls ... dinner to make. beefburger 'n chips, mmmm | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: i think its pikachu's brother lol | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | he came for revenge | 18:13 |
| daftykins | XD | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: bon apetit mate | 18:13 |
| OerHeks | it is, poeka/pikashoe | 18:14 |
| TJ- | you too.. don't go breaking any more mobos ... my TODO list is TOOLONG | 18:14 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: i have another bug for you next haha | 18:14 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: on the same system! | 18:14 |
| * TJ- runs faster than a Husky being chased by a sled | 18:14 | |
| lotuspsychje | hahaha | 18:14 |
| daftykins | XD | 18:15 |
| lotuspsychje | to comfort you, it has been chasing me for all ubuntu versions | 18:15 |
| * OerHeks runs faster than a chihuahua after a pittbull | 18:15 | |
| TJ- | oh - took them out for a very long road walk this morning... they're stiff and have been laid out all day since | 18:15 |
| OerHeks | Drabber is a killer, you know | 18:15 |
| TJ- | pftt - they can't keep up with me :) | 18:15 |
| * daftykins wonders if TJ- cycles with them | 18:16 | |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1513801 | 18:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1513801 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Scrambled screen and mouse pointer on first boot" [Undecided,New] | 18:16 |
| TJ- | Over summer I rode whilst Pepper ran but now its wet its hard to do around the fields, ground is soft and bumpy and I get sprayed with mud and wet | 18:17 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: that'll be due to the GPU not being correctly initialised. could be flaky GPU memory that needs literally warming up | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: yeah could be another mobo motor issue :p | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | bloody ol abit :p | 18:18 |
| daftykins | crikey i've not had an Abit for years | 18:18 |
| daftykins | i just to love those but then all their good engineers/designers got poached by Asus i think | 18:18 |
| daftykins | so Asus are my new love :> | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | pretty stable mobo, but hard to config | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: yeah that link you pasted the other day rrrr | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | sexy mobo | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | in that case you showed / samsong 950 ssd | 18:20 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:20 |
| daftykins | i've decided to wait and see on that front, as i just know i'd spend the money and still just be here on IRC ;) | 18:20 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:21 |
| daftykins | be a lot of fun to do a brand new build though | 18:21 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah my vision is, as long as the old hardware still working | 18:21 |
| lotuspsychje | plugged in ssd's everywhere and were good for years again | 18:21 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:23 |
| daftykins | well, my core 2 quad desktop is 8 years old this Christmas. | 18:23 |
| daftykins | i know that everything new is now 4 times faster, based on benchmarks | 18:23 |
| lotuspsychje | if its fast enough for us | 18:24 |
| lotuspsychje | i find ubuntu on older machines rocknroll | 18:24 |
| lotuspsychje | second life ecologic | 18:24 |
| daftykins | it's developed a few quirks with age too, i've dealt with it for a long time but eventually i'll just want something totally reliable | 18:25 |
| daftykins | mind you, i don't 100% fancy being an early adopter with those NVMe Samsung SSDs... there might be some kinks to work out for Q1'16 :) | 18:25 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 18:25 |
| lotuspsychje | im gonna stick with 850 pro for now | 18:25 |
| daftykins | plus, and i know you're not keen on this side of the world... but you have to use samsung's own NVMe driver under Windows right now as Microsoft's is a bit too new | 18:26 |
| daftykins | be nice if that were resolved so it didn't need to be done on clean installs | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah herd that linux support is yet to come | 18:27 |
| daftykins | reminds me of floppy RAID drivers in server 2003 *shudder* | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | brrrr | 18:27 |
| daftykins | such a brave new world this, that 360 game just finished downloading -> went to run it, "700MB update" | 18:31 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | a bit like its host: 'winblows' | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | update all night lol | 18:32 |
| daftykins | now now, that's a rather youthful attitude :P | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | hehe | 18:32 |
| daftykins | actually the new win10 was a 3GB download today ;) | 18:32 |
| daftykins | painful, but not far off seeing all the kernels mount up in ubuntu... | 18:33 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: did you read what they will do with 7 and 8 | 18:33 |
| lotuspsychje | in one year they wont sell it anymore | 18:33 |
| lotuspsychje | and force everyone to 10 | 18:33 |
| daftykins | yep, but that happens when every release goes out of mainstream support | 18:34 |
| daftykins | it's no different than an ubuntu release going EOL | 18:34 |
| lotuspsychje | but 8 is brand new | 18:34 |
| daftykins | it also sucked :) standard rule, every other release is terrible | 18:34 |
| lotuspsychje | they all suck lol | 18:35 |
| daftykins | i was sat to see that Vista is still inside extended support until April 2017 or something | 18:35 |
| daftykins | i see problems with all OSs :) | 18:35 |
| daftykins | PaulW2U_: o/ | 18:35 |
| lotuspsychje | ok movienight | 18:39 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: laterz mate | 18:39 |
| daftykins | o/ | 18:39 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:40 |
| * TJ- returns belatedly | 19:40 | |
| TJ- | daftykins: At least with Linux you have the choice to install an old release, and patch it yourself :) | 19:40 |
| daftykins | haha | 19:52 |
| daftykins | i can't think when i'd ever choose that mind you - but then i'm always thinking from the focus of my clients, not my own usage directly | 19:52 |
| daftykins | just the folks i support | 19:52 |
| === EriC^^ is now known as eeee | ||
| === eeee is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| MonkeyDust | !isitoutyet | 22:16 |
| ubot5 | It's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - download at http://ubuntu.com/download/ | 22:16 |
| OerHeks | out of what? | 22:23 |
| MonkeyDust | OerHeks i meant it jokingly, referring to 16.04 | 22:24 |
| OerHeks | i am on 15.04 :-D | 22:25 |
| daftykins | :> | 22:46 |
| wileee | insert pop reference to out here------> | 22:54 |
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