[01:20] <wileee> daftykins, may be sainthood there
[01:20] <wileee> ;)
[01:20] <daftykins> hahaha
[01:20] <daftykins> jokes on him, i have to sleep early 8D
[01:21] <wileee> new user, big dreams, probably really young, heh, one here everyday lately, suppose I had some dream at one time
[01:22] <daftykins> :D
[01:28] <wileee> funny picture and story, grew up around this town, http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/11/12/4-masked-bandits-caught-newport-ore-art-gallery/75653184/
[05:11] <TJ-> amazing! my reverse-engineered installshield archive decompressor works first time
[05:11]  * wileee waits for the user with single install always wanting grub vs the no grub match
[05:11] <wileee> heh, cool
[05:12] <TJ-> I always get GRUB so I forget about how it can be invisible
[05:12] <wileee> yeah me to
[05:12] <wileee> it does a lot, I know maybe 1%
[05:13] <wileee> I can read though if needed
[05:14] <TJ-> With mine the LUKS pass-phrase or key-file device needs attaching
[05:14] <wileee> ah, I've jsut been multibooted, limited computers so all on a couple.
[05:15] <wileee> got my acer d250 mini as the backup, heh.
[05:22] <TJ-> I dug out 2 notebooks I've had since 2002 this week; going to get them fired up again :)
[05:24] <TJ-> made me realize how software devs have squandered memory and CPU cycles. Those used to perform better then, than many current PCs do with latest software
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:27] <TJ-> morning, damn!
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hey mate :p
[05:27] <TJ-> I was supposed to go to bed before midnight
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> doing overtime again
[05:27] <TJ-> Programming is too adictive :)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: do you program also?
[05:28] <TJ-> That's how I started out, writing machine code and assembly language back in 1980 :)
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> what languages
[05:29] <TJ-> most over that time
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> me and my brother fooled around with BASIC, but thats about it :p
[05:31] <TJ-> I prefer close to the metal, so C and C++, but I've done some big Java systems.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> ICT is such wide spectrum plenty ways fro every talent
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks
[05:34] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-9-is-open-for-business-developers-can-start-pushing-fixes-496094.shtml
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> the covergence is upon us :p
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: and one for you: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kubuntu-New-RMs
[05:57] <wileee> cleanup Isle 4
[05:58] <wileee> ;)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[12:27] <daftykins> hallo \o
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins :p
[12:32] <daftykins> what film did we see? :D
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> 10 things i hate about you
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> old college comedy
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/is-that-ubuntu-touch-or-ubuntu-desktop-the-answer-is-both-496123.shtml
[12:47] <daftykins> :)
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> they all ZZzzzZZ in #ubuntu
[12:49] <daftykins> it is a strangely quiet day!
[12:51] <daftykins> just ordered in a £160 IPS 2560x1440 27" HannsG display last night for someone
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:51] <daftykins> they also want to drive it from a really cheap laptop, so i've just spotted a basic looker... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y0LWQAW ;)
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> looking good
[12:53] <daftykins> weird it only has one DIMM slot, so 8GB RAM max! D:
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> can always add ssd later
[12:55] <daftykins> indeedy
[12:55] <daftykins> i saw a cheap HP on another site, to get RAM in you had to take the whole thing apart O_O
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah i had one the same to change a cmos battery
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> even screen had to come off
[12:56] <daftykins> >_<
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[14:32] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[14:54] <daftykins> heya \o
[14:54] <daftykins> how do? :)
[14:54] <pauljw> good daftykins thanks.  you?  :)
[14:55] <daftykins> yep all good here ta :) just digging into a clients email issue
[14:56] <pauljw> fun
[16:03] <daftykins> EriC^^: o/
[16:03] <daftykins> i always feel our 'customers' have such warped perceptions of what 'broken' 'doesn't work' and fix' mean
[16:03] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[16:07]  * daftykins is an overthinker ;)
[16:09] <EriC^^> i think you're pretty practical
[16:13] <EriC^^> i've been learning a shit load of magic tricks
[16:16] <ioria> hi. anyone knows where the ubuntu log of yestarday is ? i can't find here http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/12/
[16:18] <daftykins> the 7th was missing the other day too, when OerHeks looked i think?
[16:19] <daftykins> i reckon there's a coverup going on :D
[16:19] <ioria> thanx
[16:19] <EriC^^> lol
[16:27] <OerHeks> Yes, last log was the 11-3 ?
[16:28] <ioria> it misses from 3/11 to 12/11
[17:37] <daftykins> well Eczan was a complete idiot
[17:39] <TJ-> did I miss something :D
[17:44] <daftykins> guy asked which kernel to pick during a server install, i said i wasn't sure of any time you're asked that during server installs... eventually he gets so worked up that i'm claiming he's 'lying' he leaves saying he'll get help elsewhere
[17:44] <daftykins> all in his own head O_O
[17:48] <TJ-> weird
[17:49] <TJ-> 'purple screen' certainly sounds like the Plymouth splash screen
[18:00] <TJ-> It's about time we started charging a 'frustration deposit' !
[18:00] <daftykins> :D
[18:01] <TJ-> it's true - some skin on the table usually makes people think first :)
[18:01] <daftykins> "i have problems but you're not allowed to see... here's a darkened room, there are no lights... tell me what this object is"
[18:01] <TJ-> oh ... and you can't touch it
[18:09] <daftykins> so in other news i've gone into the business of extracting blood from stones
[18:12] <daftykins> i have no idea what you do in situations where a system has somehow been using funky partitions the whole time :D
[18:19] <TJ-> it may be corruption; it may even be misreporting somehow... I've simulated this by creating a large HBA on a disk *after* it was partitioned - and some PC manufacturers hide their Windows recovery images in an HBA
[18:20] <TJ-> regardless of the partition, the ext* tools will read the metadata and superblock to tell us if the file-system instide matches any of the partition dimensions we can see or deduce
[18:47] <daftykins> Vizio TVs were in the news recently for having a policy where they sell what you watch to marketing :) you have to opt out!
[18:48] <TJ-> Doesn't surprise me; folks have allowed themselves to become the product by using all those 'free' web applications like Google, Facebook, et al
[18:49] <daftykins> :D
[18:49] <daftykins> they can be pretty impressive though!
[18:49] <daftykins> i'm starting to think it's spaghetti bolognese time
[18:51] <TJ-> Already making it here :)
[18:51] <daftykins> i tried something new and cooked two portions of mince at once, so tonight will just be heating up
[18:52] <daftykins> that bellflower has one funky disk alright
[18:52] <TJ-> I often make large stews that last 1/2 a week :)
[18:53] <daftykins> ah, see i've been very hesitant toward this 'leftovers' approach
[18:53] <daftykins> it's very alien to me
[18:54] <TJ-> it's not leftovers, that implies scraps. It's efficient production!
[18:55] <daftykins> true :>
[18:56] <daftykins> looks like another one i didn't catch due to assuming their setup again!
[18:59] <TJ-> It's the whole 'incomplete data' issue - in-person you pick up a lot of stuff simply by looking. With remote support you have no context at all, so you've got to specifically identify everything
[18:59] <DosTuMai> If I make more, means I eat more. Not a good thing because I hate seeing food sit there.
[19:04] <daftykins> heh
[19:05]  * daftykins helps out with that
[19:05] <TJ-> You need to learn self-control :)
[19:06] <DosTuMai> Once cooked 3 days worth of food. Felt like it was a waste to leave it sitting there. Ate the lot.
[19:06] <DosTuMai> OCD doesn't help with that. Food is for eating.
[19:08] <DosTuMai> Main reason I like to stick with Gnome classic.
[19:09] <daftykins> true, no food in that DE
[19:09] <TJ-> ffs! bellflower! I'm off for dinner, can't take any more
[19:10] <daftykins> XD
[19:11] <daftykins> me too, RUN whilst the going's good!
[20:38] <Pici> OerHeks: fyi, ubottu doesn't do channel logs, thats ubuntulog's job.
[20:38] <OerHeks> Pici, oh oke, we were missing some logs lately, today is running.
[20:39] <Pici> yeah, I think it might have been a netsplit related problem