[01:59] <ianorlin> there is also iotop which will show current input and ouput not just for io but for any disk
[11:57] <Guest58074> Hey guys. I have an old 2006 white MacBook. What version should I install? 32 bit PC version?
[11:58] <bioterror> do you have how much RAM?
[11:59] <Guest58074> I think 4gb at the most. Prob  2
[12:00] <Guest58074> But for Mac I only see 64 bit and power pc. I don't have either.
[12:00] <bioterror> if you have less than 4GB, go with the 32bit, as the 64bit environment uses RAM more than 32bit
[12:00] <Guest58074> So I download the pc install though?
[12:01] <bioterror> yes, You have intel based machine
[12:01] <Guest58074> Cool, making sure. Thanks!
[12:02] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[12:02] <bioterror> that page is probably outdated :D
[12:05] <Guest58074> That's really helpful! Thanks for the link. I missed it somehow.
[17:14] <suncokret> hello, i use lubuntu 14.04... is there any important advantage in 15.10, or it is better to stay on 14.04??
[18:00] <wangerin> Hi! Where do I find LTS-version of lubuntu? The files at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso gives me a 12.04 version - that's a little to old ;-)
[18:02] <bioterror> that's the latest LTS
[18:02] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:06] <wangerin> Yes, but it should giv me a 14.04 image. Not a 12.04 image
[18:09] <bioterror> you installed it and it showed up as a 12.04?
[18:12] <wangerin> Yes. We installed 5 mashines today at our install-party, ending with 5 12.04 mashines that needed to be release-upgraded afwards :-( Not a good thing foor new users.
[18:12] <krytarik> !md5sum | wangerin
[18:12] <wangerin> Both th 14.04 and 14.04.3 images have this problem
[18:13] <Scaniatrucker> wangerin: here correct link. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/
[18:13] <bioterror> Scaniatrucker, leads to same image
[18:15] <wangerin> b0d1c58c8515ab40382d01f59655ba85  lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:15] <Scaniatrucker> bioterror: I check this link. After downloading with firefox, file is 14.04.3 (sorry for my bad English)
[18:17] <wangerin> Try to start the image. The file-name startes 14.04 but the result is a 12.04 installation. The md5 matches the hash in MD5SUMS in the server
[18:19] <wangerin> I don't have a 64bit mashine, so I can't test them to se if they also have the problem
[18:35] <krytarik> wangerin: I have a 'lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso' here, whose MD5 checksum matches the one listed in  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/MD5SUMS  that is definitely 14.04.3
[18:39] <wangerin> Yes the md5sum matches, but try starting as live. It states "install 12.04" and ls_release -a also says 12.04.
[19:07] <wangerin> krytarik: Have you tested it that t's actually the correct content? I don't think that it is
[19:08] <Unit193> He's gone, mate.
[19:09] <Unit193> Are you sure you're selecting the correct ISO?
[19:10] <Unit193> Manifest looks fine, let me download and check.
[19:12] <wangerin> I just started it a live. I states 12.04, and after a apt-get update I can do-release-upgrade to 14.04, so something is uterly wrong in the image
[19:13] <krytarik> wangerin: Just bootet into it and made a screenshot for you: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2015-11-14-1854041280x1024scrot.php , anything else needed for proof while I'm here? :D
[19:14] <Unit193> I don't see the problem with 1152f2b9eb1342e8c47421e58a6fda6a
[19:15] <krytarik> Yep, that's the one I'm using.
[19:15] <Unit193> I didn't boot from it, but checking isolinux/grub/initrd/squashfs all indicates 14.04.
[19:15] <krytarik> Yeah, did that before too.
[19:15] <wangerin> why the f*** do I get a 12.04 when creating a usb-stick from that image?  can it be usb-creator-gtk the is make the problem?
[19:16] <Unit193> Try dd?
[19:16] <wangerin> But I'm making the stick on a 14.04 ( ugraded from 12.04 and 10.04 before that )
[19:16] <bioterror> yeah, if you're using *nix, no reason to use anything else than dd
[19:31] <wangerin> Unit193: For creating a bootable usb-stick? How?
[19:31] <Unit193> dd if=lubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb (presuming sdb is your device!), unless bioterror would like to correct me.
[19:40] <bioterror> Unit193, some people likes to add bs=4M, I've heard it writes faster
[19:41] <Unit193> Ah, I've seen people use it, but easier to remember this way. :P
[19:42] <wangerin> I just trid it, but my laptop won't start on that stick.
[20:00] <wangerin> Hmm. Found the problem. usb-creator took the wrong image when passing it on the command-line, so 'sudo usb-creator-gtk --iso=lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso --not_persistent' did not install that image on the stick. Selecting the image manually solved the problem, but is a pain in the ass as I have to flash many sticks. Sorry for the trouble guys :-)
[22:58] <Clandestine> Hey guys. Has anyone here successfully installed Lubuntu on an old MacBook 1.1? I don't want to dual boot. I want to wipe OS-X and have Linux alone on the Mac.