[00:03] what is this [00:04] who am i [00:04] peterrivassss: this is the ubuntu support irc channel [00:06] Hi. can anyone help me? I have launched startx with chromium-browser but it is only half-sized: http://styler2go.de/screenshots/capture.png [00:07] i am kinda crying over that problem already :( [00:07] Ripmind: you dont want to run a desktop and window manager etc? [00:07] i just want to have chromium-browser in fullscreen [00:08] i do not need mouse/keyboard/any input or other window [00:08] Ripmind: try starting it with --noerrdialogs --kiosk --window-size=1920,1080 --window-position=0,0 (adjust the arguments to --window-size to what you need) [00:09] must have overseen the window size :/ [00:09] i try that [00:09] alt + middle mouse = resize [00:09] this seems helpfull. it mentions display resolution in the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/487488/how-to-open-chromium-in-full-screen-kiosk-mode-in-minimal-windows-manager-enviro [00:10] good afternoon [00:10] THAT WORKED, thanks so much Seveas [00:10] i wonder why --start-fullscreen is not doing fullscreeen [00:10] feels liek a bug to me [00:11] Are there any file managers in existence today that allow you to set a background image? [00:11] Ripmind: because it has trouble detecting resolution without window manager [00:11] Ripmind: I have a fleet of raspberry pi-based wallboards that run chrome this way :) [00:12] Ripmind: yeah, i guess it wants to demand fullscreen from the windowmanager which is not there at all. [00:13] ah [00:13] Can you also help me settign up audio? :o [00:13] nope. My wallboards don't do audio :) [00:13] damn! :D [00:14] well, worht a try :P [00:14] ...o.O sound works instantly... i guess ubuntu > debian :D [00:26] trying to build a kernel the debian/ubuntu way… having trouble figuring out where exactly are my build targets? [00:27] trying to pass ‘binary-generic’ says it cant find the make target [00:27] there are a bunch od debian. folders i dont know what they do as well [00:28] perks: just do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, or debuild -S and pbuilder build ../.....dsc [00:29] for dpkg-buildpackage can i add the flag that compiles with debug synbols> [00:30] not in the dpkg-buildpackage call, you'll need to fix that in either debian/rules or the kernel config [00:33] yeah im grepping for the ‘skipdbg’ flag, should i change it everywhere it appears? [00:33] its currently in 3 make files in debian/rules.d/ [00:33] Howdy! How can I check to see what motherboard slot a video card is plugged into? [00:34] i guess you dont mean opening the case and looking at it :) [00:34] yep! I wouldn't know the name of what I'm looking at [00:34] I have this board: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/870AG46.html#hero-specification [00:34] econdudeawesome: identify the model -> age will tell whether it's anything other than PCI-Express [00:35] one of the two blue slots then most likely, highly unlikely to be any other [00:35] I'm still a bit clueless when it comes to hardware, want to make sure I get a compatible video card [00:35] econdudeawesome: real question - why does it matter? [00:35] daftykins: looking to upgrade the video card [00:35] ah you'd be better off in ##hardware then, you want a PCI-Express card. [00:35] which is everything sold today [00:36] I figured it was common. Still, no linux command to look it up directly? My google-fu failed me on that [00:36] but I'll check in ##hardware [00:36] "lspci" -> identify what's in there already [00:37] check "lshw" [00:37] lspci with -vvv could tell something too [00:38] for debian kernels, where can i find the list of ‘flavors’? [00:38] perks: that'd be a #debian question [00:38] http://pastebin.com/3CdY77vs what am I looking for? [00:39] PCI bridge? [00:39] no [00:39] ah, nm [00:39] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2) [00:39] that's the one [00:39] That'll do :) thanks so much! [00:39] so that's most certainly a PCI-Express card [00:40] anyone know the console command needed to install NetBeans? [00:40] More of a ##hardware question, but any gotchas I should look out for re: nvidia cards? Usually I've had luck with drivers [00:40] (the Java software) [00:40] econdudeawesome: not really no, just consider your PSU rating before spending the earth :) [00:41] PSU...? [00:42] (hey, I really am clueless with hardware!) [00:42] ah, power supply [00:42] I remember now [00:42] good point [00:42] yep, power connector types for graphics cards + wattage rating + 12V rail amps === mfisch is now known as Guest88107 === med_ is now known as Guest17963 [00:43] hello [00:43] allo [00:43] i need help in squid3 and mysql [00:43] Think I remember 500W or 1kW, guess I should figure that out :D [00:43] paule32: think i saw you earlier, #ubuntu-server and ##networking may be more relevant [00:43] paule32: tried #squid yet? there are quite a few folks there [00:43] there is nobody [00:44] you have to be patient - and also not ask on a Friday night when everyone's out ;) === rainbow is now known as Guest97557 [00:44] well, it's Saturday in Australia and some parts of china =) [00:44] daftykins: or glued to their tv/internet watching the paris disaster... [00:45] that too [00:45] peng [00:45] bprompt: shh :P [00:45] bprompt: it's actually saturday in all of africa, asia and europe already :) [00:45] just the americans are behind as usual :) [00:45] Seveas: well, true, but they're sleeping over there I'd think =) [00:46] bprompt: I'm not :) [00:46] Seveas: rats! === wook is now known as Guest66047 [00:51] has anyone had the very strange situation of having two separate partitions pointing at the same mount point?! i somehow seem to have both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1 on /! [00:51] hi, installed winetricks on ubuntu 14.04x64, but when i started up winetricks , i get "wineserver not found" any ideas? [00:52] wxl: well, the last one mounted will be overlayed over the first one. [00:52] wxl: check your fstab for that or for typos [00:52] k1l_: no, i mean they're BOTH mounted accounting to `mount`. [00:52] they will both show up in mount [00:52] k1l_: i don't even regularly have an sdc. [00:52] icewalker: how're you starting it? [00:52] wxl: think of them stapled now. the last one mounted is the one you see now. [00:53] wxl, show us the out put of "mount" and "dmesg | grep sd" [00:53] popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13253938/ [00:54] i just run "winetricks vcrun2008" [00:54] wxl, i see no sda at the end [00:54] so probably sda dropped off the bus and was re-detected as sdc [00:55] popey: uptime is like 120odd days or something [00:55] wxl, what does "sudo fdisk -l" show? [00:55] wxl, and ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid [00:56] hey guys [00:57] hi [00:57] popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254009/ [00:58] i have a question that someone maybe can help me with [00:58] popey: as an explanation, sda should be the default root. sdb is a secondary drive. sdc is an attached usb drive which i can easily make disappear from the fdisk output by just unplugging. [00:58] wxl, so you just have one mounted over the other [00:58] !ask | emanuel [00:58] emanuel: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [00:59] wxl, maybe your /etc/fstab is at fault, what does that contain? [00:59] popey: but if i remove the usb drive, sdc goes away. [00:59] wxl, of course it does :) [00:59] popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254060/ [00:59] im trying to install gnome builder on 15.10 with gnome 3.18 but im getting stuck at the autogen stage [01:00] popey: oh, but removing the usb drive does not remove the mount point. long story short, i just want to mount the damn usb drive XD [01:00] !language | wxl [01:00] wxl, please see my private message [01:00] sorry :) [01:00] my errors are as follows [01:00] wxl, so plug it in, and "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/foo"? [01:00] configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.17.8 [01:00] gio-2.0 >= 2.45.8 [01:00] gtksourceview-3.0 >= 3.17.7 [01:00] libgit2-glib-1.0 >= 0.23.4 [01:00] libpeas-1.0 >= 1.14.1) were not met: [01:00] emanuel: please don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com [01:01] popey: wxl i'd suggest against using /media/foo for manual mounting, but YMMV. [01:01] zykotick9, it really doesn't matter. [01:02] popey: says it's already open. [01:02] and "foo" is an example [01:02] reisio: any suggestions [01:02] guys im sorry [01:02] …because it's open on /! [01:02] * wxl pulls his hair out [01:02] icewalker: winetricks vcrun2008 says no wine server found? [01:02] icewalker: try running 'winecfg' first [01:02] wxl, what if you unplug it, do you see it still mounted (I mean,really you should unmount before unplug) [01:02] popey: yes. [01:03] its saying it cant find gtk 3 [01:03] wxl, fix that then [01:03] wxl, unmount it [01:03] that or "winetricks" returns wineserver not found [01:03] popey: the only way to unmount / is to not have it be busy. but for that to be true, i'd have to reboot :) [01:03] wxl, no [01:03] wxl, sudo umount /dev/sdc1 [01:03] popey: no workie [01:04] your machine is confused, :) [01:04] don't have winecfg command [01:04] popey: umount: /: device is busy. [01:04] it says it cant find gio-2.0 [01:04] beside installing winestricks, do i also install to install wine? [01:05] icewalker: "dpkg -l | grep wine | nc termbin.com 9999" [01:06] im really lost here hopefully somebody can help [01:06] popey: naturally the practical thing here is to reboot but this is odd behavior i don't like, so naturally i want to figure out a more sustainable long term solution. that may be asking too much :) [01:06] emanuel: can you provide a pastebin? [01:06] wxl, set a proper mount point in fstab for your usb drive and reboot it [01:07] yeah, sigh. [01:07] thanks for trying :) [01:07] http://termin.com/4p8f [01:07] icewalker: yeah i think it needs wine itself [01:08] im pasting right now [01:09] i tried to install wine, but i end with unmet dependencies problem and can not (won't) install wine1.6 [01:09] ok pasted wxl [01:09] emanuel: link? [01:09] we're not that great at guessing the unique paste ID :) [01:10] icewalker: hmm no idea then, not used it myself - maybe the #winehq folks know if there isn't an answer online [01:10] Howdy! Video-card guy back. Is it possible to tell how Ubuntu is utilizing my video card, or is that a dumb question? I have nvidia drivers being used (I believe the most current ones), but if, say, I'm playing a game (civ5) and things slow down, is it possible to figure out where the bottleneck is? [01:10] wxl: does "cat /proc/mounts" report the same as "mount" (which can report stale stuff due to mtab) ? [01:10] (or even worse -- cities and skylines) [01:10] econdudeawesome: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 === Monthrect is now known as Piper-Off [01:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254272/ [01:11] Holy geez that's a lot of good info. http://termbin.com/w5yi [01:12] I think I'm in love with nc termbin.com now [01:12] econdudeawesome: +1 [01:12] econdudeawesome: yep right now you're booting with nomodeset which is ruining the nvidia driver, lets see which you have installed too... [01:12] econdudeawesome: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999" [01:12] what is ubuntu trusty? [01:13] pyios: an annoying codename for a specific ubuntu version [01:13] actually i spoke too soon, it's using it just fine despite having nomodeset 0o [01:13] pyios: 14.04 [01:13] 14.10 is trusty [01:13] http://termbin.com/dmyp [01:13] yea 14.04 sorry [01:13] TJ-: no, it is different. the /dev/sdc stuff isn't included at all. [01:14] econdudeawesome: and "cat /etc/issue" ? [01:14] that one can be pasted here [01:15] *kicks the dust on the ground shyly* I'm on debian... [01:15] Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l [01:15] whoops [01:16] econdudeawesome: heh [01:16] those packages are pretty messy for the nvidia drivers though, i'd not think that is normal for even them [01:16] TJ-: that being said, is there any way to get mount to refresh its information? [01:16] what is this version Linux ubuntu 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu ? [01:16] pyios: hrmm? [01:16] and Linux vagrant-base-trusty-amd64 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu [01:16] pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"? [01:16] pyios: that's an outdated 14.04 install [01:16] wxl: mount uses mtab as a source. see 'man umount' for avoiding its use [01:17] my thing is wxl this is a gnome 3.18 app that i can not for the life of me install [01:18] wxl: "mount -a" might be helpful? [01:18] wxl: did /dev/sdc1 contain a clone of the file-system in /dev/sda1? I was wondering if they're got identical labels/UUIDs, which could cause the dual mount to happen [01:18] TJ-: nope [01:19] ive never been whipped by any install like this [01:19] pyios: is that first output from uname -a? [01:19] zykotick9: nope [01:19] yeah [01:19] that doesn't tell you anything about the version of ubuntu you are on [01:19] neccesarily [01:19] it can give clues [01:19] pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"? [01:20] wxl: you can always just replace /etc/mtab with /proc/mounts [01:20] its trusty [01:20] Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS [01:20] trusty is still current ubuntu [01:20] wxl: but you need to figure out *why* /dev/sdc1 gets mounted over the root file-system [01:20] emanuel: i meant EVERYTHING. what commands are you trying to use, for example? [01:20] until what, April 2019 or something like that [01:20] 5 years on LTS versions [01:20] ok sorry man [01:21] so you're on a current release, just maybe not fully apt-get upgraded [01:22] pyios: plytro no matter that kernel is outdated. [01:22] pyios: also the mention of vagrant suggests this system has been script installed/deployed - so done for you somehow [01:22] daftykins: despite my debian-ness on this rig, I appreciate the help! [01:22] k1l_: whats the current highest kernel in trusty? [01:22] plytro: pyios http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-lts-vivid/linux-lts-vivid_3.19.0-33.38~14.04.1/changelog that is the actual version [01:22] econdudeawesome: np :) i'd purge all the nvidia and start again but i don't know how things work in debian land [01:22] k1l_: that is a vivid kernel not trusty [01:23] ah nvm [01:23] plytro: no. its from the 3.19 vivid backports kernel for 14.04 [01:23] missed the 14.04 in the name [01:24] well i go su,then i cd my gnome builder folder,the rest i just pasted wxl [01:24] emanuel: what command led to the rest coming up? clearly not just cd ing :) [01:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254434/ [01:25] you can see it all there thanks for helping man [01:25] ah yes i see, you're compiling [01:26] now you come to understand why package managers are so common in the linux world [01:26] because lots of folks hate compiling [01:26] because one of the biggest issues with compiling is tracking down dependencies [01:26] basically you need to search the repos for the -dev files and install them [01:27] or you can track them down and compile them but then you'd have more dependencies to deal with [01:27] suffice it to say it's not really an issue with ubuntu itself [01:27] ive tried to install the package from gnome.org but that fails also [01:27] Paris is a warzone xD [01:27] you might have better, more specific help if you track down the gnome-builder support [01:27] I get Input/output error when attempting to delete from my external NTFS disk. what do I do to repair it? [01:28] pwca: how is it connected? is it a partition on a dualboot disk? [01:28] bvest of luck emanuel . i gotta jet [01:28] i get the feeling (without double checking) that emanuel is using a newer gnome than ships? [01:28] daftykins: it's a USB disk. [01:28] recently, i've been getting these errors in dmesg (http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A). so i went ahead and checked my disk with e2fsck. it found 71 errors on my disk. i also did a smartctl but i can't draw much information from it. http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A can anyone tell me if i should be worried about the disk? [01:28] pwca: the NTFS one? "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999" [01:29] yes i am daftykins gnome 3.18 [01:29] emanuel: so if it didn't come with whatever you installed and it came from a PPA, not surprised there are issues [01:29] iamrohit7: that 2nd link was the same as the 1st :) [01:29] daftykins: what does that do? [01:29] pwca: shares your system messages [01:30] TJ-: here you go http://pastebin.com/ptPDKsxW [01:30] daftykins: I don't want to share my system messages. [01:30] pwca: it'll create a link for you to paste here [01:30] pwca: nothing is personal, your concern is pointless [01:30] nothing is personal [01:30] yeah nothing in the paste [01:30] open the link before you share it if you're worried. [01:30] i installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and upgraded gnome to 3.18 like you said via ppa [01:31] yeah so the fact you can't find packages right now will be the fault of that PPA, you'll need to contact the maintainer / run an "apt-get update" [01:31] iamrohit7: time to replace the disk. It's got unrecoverable sectors early in the disk (LBA 472 listed in the SMART log). Stop using it until you have a replacement you can use as a target for a clone operation with the 'ddresuce' tool. [01:32] iamrohit7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211985 [01:32] good price on a new ssd for you there [01:33] ^ would not buy. [01:33] no off brands for you? [01:33] I would not buy as a primary drive [01:33] temp drive, scratch drive, transient data drive sure [01:33] that chat would be better off in ##hardware [01:33] ubuntu only in here :) [01:34] TJ-: thanks. but i don't get any errors in the other partitions (i have archlinux on other system). can i boot it and use without mounting the ubuntu partition? [01:34] i'll rephrase to tie it back to ubuntu, hold one [01:34] :P [01:34] plytro: its kinda spam. [01:34] nah just stop right there [01:35] hello everybody. I am getting Input/output errors when trying to delete files from my external NTFS-formatted disk. what can I do to rectify this situation? [01:35] iamrohit7: the whole disk is dead. backup your data and take it out [01:35] daftykins: sure, thanks. [01:35] pwca: did you paste the requested output? [01:35] pwca: right, so run this one instead "dmesg | tail" read that none of the information has anything to do with you... personal data... or anything, then share it - your concern is just holding up the free help here. === Agent_Isai is now known as Megg [01:36] "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 999" didn't work. [01:36] 9999 === Megg is now known as Agent_Isai [01:36] just do the first bit; "dmesg | tail" [01:37] http://termbin.com/xwoj [01:37] so you're sing some kind of USB converter? [01:37] USB converter? [01:37] ah no it's just an external seagate product [01:37] I am using an external disk connected by USB. [01:38] my bad, 2am and my head was in another place [01:38] no problem. [01:38] if it's NTFS you should use Windows to chkdsk it really [01:38] :( [01:38] pwca: quite easy really though even on linux potentially [01:38] go get an ievm for free [01:38] fire it up and chkdsk [01:39] ievm [01:39] there is a program on ubuntu to check it, but it's not without risk [01:39] yes, MS gives out free vmware/virtualbox images running windows for testing various browsers === Agent_Isai is now known as TheChill57181 [01:39] iamzero: the disk is failing. Back-up or risk losing everything [01:39] http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows === TheChill57181 is now known as Agent_Isai [01:39] this is a total hassle. [01:39] https://github.com/xdissent/ievms [01:40] iamzero: sorry, tab-complete - the other user left the channel [01:40] I tried ntfsfix already. [01:40] also gparted. [01:40] windows is just better at dealing with windows file systems [01:40] they are the experts after all [01:41] I can't believe I am hearing this. [01:41] ...why not? [01:41] NTFS is proprietary, its' whole use is based on reverse engineering [01:41] (whole use under Linux) [01:41] ok. [01:41] does monit need to be started up every time the server starts? [01:41] anywho, it'd need to be mounted read-write to be able to run ntfsfix on it i'd think [01:42] or is it automatic after you set it up and type monit start $someservicename [01:42] hello all, I wish to reformat my external disk. what file format should I use for maximal compatibility + support for large files? [01:42] weaksauce: a monitor on a GUI-less server? no [01:42] oh monit, no idea what that is. [01:42] pwca: fat32 [01:42] weaksauce: if the service is enabled, and its config has no errors, it'll auto-start [01:42] plytro: which has limits on file size. [01:42] TJ- awesome [01:43] but its best for maximum compatibility out of the box everywhere [01:43] all of my external drives are ext4 [01:43] but I installed tools on windows so I could use them there [01:43] Sup [01:43] any drive that needs to be swapped often is indeed fat32 [01:43] doesn't Windows recognise ext4? [01:43] nope [01:43] wants to format it [01:43] pwca: exFAT [01:43] pain. [01:44] pwca: takes 3rd party software [01:44] I do not have admin rights on the Windows machines I use the most. [01:44] pwca: sure you do [01:44] exFAT supports >4GB files and works fine without any third party software (may be a single package install on ubuntu though) [01:44] never met a Windows machine I couldn't get admin on :p [01:44] ok. [01:44] I don't. [01:44] daftykins: on the literally half dozen devices that support it :p [01:44] and I don't think the software to read ext# needs admin [01:45] maybe ext4 is a good opportunity. [01:45] reisio: no idea what you're claiming there, works fine across OSs [01:45] option, I mean. it's late. [01:45] no, don't go ext4 [01:45] you'll be in permissions hell [01:45] oh, I have encountered this. [01:46] use win7 to format to exFAT with a 4096KB cluster size [01:46] I don't have Win7. [01:46] daftykins: OSes aren't devices [01:46] alright, well format as exFAT then [01:46] no wonder you have no idea :p [01:46] https://www.maketecheasier.com/format-exfat-in-ubuntu/ [01:46] so in his use case we have ubuntu and windows and maybe osx [01:46] exfat is on all 3 [01:47] reisio: you bringing up 'devices' doesn't make any sense to me, so i said what was a sane reply. [01:47] so exfat needs extra software? [01:47] on linux only [01:47] daftykins: devices, they're things [01:47] so exfat requires extra software on Linux. [01:47] pwca: things that aren't ordinary desktop computers aren't great at exfat [01:47] reisio: i sincerely hope your command about having no idea wasn't aimed at me. [01:47] may or may not matter to you [01:47] command? comment too. [01:47] it doesn't, reisio. [01:47] daftykins: cool [01:48] pwca: :) [01:48] I couldn't find Ubuntu's Google code in wiki page. Does Ubuntu have one? [01:48] pwca: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse === Guest88107 is now known as mfisch [01:48] ^on 14.04 === paule32_ is now known as paule32 [01:48] gparted may do it now, as of that link I gave you it didn't [01:48] some of the machines I use do not have internet access. [01:48] 2013 [01:48] reisio: yeah, look at that - your point was useless === mfisch is now known as Guest9086 [01:48] daftykins: you're so sincere :p [01:48] which means that I will have to have an external USB disk with the exfat packages with me. [01:49] but it's a one time cost, so I guess it's OK. [01:49] still love to know what 'devices' these were [01:49] unless it requires a billion other things. [01:49] pwca: because any other Linux host wouldn't be online to install them? [01:49] any other? [01:49] daftykins: oh? Didn't seem like you were interested [01:51] reisio: not considering you making it personal, no === Gi0_ is now known as Gi0 [01:51] you lost me, dude [01:51] ok. so far my best options are: reformatting to exFAT or NTFS. the former has the advantage of being salvageable on Linux and the latter has the advantage of being supported with no hustle on anything. [01:51] I will sleep on it and make my decision after breakfast tomorrow. [01:51] pwca: what was the original problem? [01:52] reisio: I didn't know what nc did. [01:52] pwca: oh you wanted an fsck for ntfs? [01:52] oh, mmm [01:52]