[03:26] <mapps> hi all
[03:27] <daftykins> lo
[03:33] <mapps> sup;D
[03:34] <mapps> cool tv night..walking dead..homeland and brooklynnine nine;D
[03:34] <mapps> watch any?
[03:34] <mapps> ooh and new series of peep show
[03:35] <daftykins> nope not any o' them
[03:36] <mapps> :|
[03:36] <mapps> peep showis so funny
[03:36] <daftykins> ah can't stand that style
[03:36] <daftykins> too painful
[04:16] <mapps> homelandtime:D
[04:32] <mapps> ;]
[08:10] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:12] <jimmy_will> what a morning
[08:16] <directhex> Laney! fix bug 1132063!
[08:16] <lubotu3`> bug 1132063 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Mouse settings missing from Mouse & Touchpad dialog" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132063
[09:08] <diplo> Morning all
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Button Day! 😃
[10:03] <directhex> JamesTait: buttons for pushing, or buttons for doing things up?
[10:04] <JamesTait> directhex, officially the doing things up type, but personally I don't mind. 😉
[10:16] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:21] <popey> morning
[10:22] <dogmatic69> o/
[12:34] <popey> !ping
[12:34] <lubotu3`> pong!
[12:34] <popey> good
[12:35] <bigcalm> !ding
[12:35] <lubotu3`> dong
[12:35] <bigcalm> pud
[12:38] <foobarry> !sing
[12:38] <foobarry> :(
[12:39] <bigcalm> !bing
[12:39] <lubotu3`> ban
[12:39] <bigcalm> o.O
[12:39] <bigcalm> I was hoping for google
[12:54] <diddledan_> !sing
[12:54] <diddledan_> aww
[12:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: sorry meetings and bugs slowed me down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
[13:15]  * diddledan_ pushes davmor2 's button
[13:15] <diddledan_> but really.. a day for buttons?!
[13:15] <diddledan_> that's randomness
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> next zipper day...
[13:16] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: and then "getting it caught in the zipper day"
[13:16]  * diddledan_ winces
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> it'll keep them in stitches...
[13:17] <diddledan_> the big question when you get caught in your zip is "do I finish doing it up or attempt to undo it?"
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> or the slow v fast method of bandaid removal...
[13:17] <diddledan_> yeah that's another perennial
[13:18] <foobarry> popey: i got some great github stickers
[13:18] <foobarry> ask jono bacon for some ;)
[13:20] <popey> i will! :)
[13:20] <foobarry> we got 200 after buying the github onsite appliance
[13:20] <popey> I'd rather have launchpad stickers though, because you know, free software
[13:20] <foobarry> there are some great stickers
[13:20] <foobarry> yeah
[13:21] <foobarry> but octocat
[13:21]  * popey shrugs
[13:22] <foobarry> i also have a "my other computer is a cray"
[13:24] <zmoylan-pi> my favourite was 'the beatings will continue till morale improves'
[13:24] <diddledan_> lol
[14:19] <diddledan_> found this the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvEIjRBSDA (Write in go)
[14:29] <diddledan_> "it's weird when you can see each other, isn't it. I don't like it!" lol
[14:29] <diddledan_> silly geeks
[14:29]  * diddledan_ <3 the buntu podcast
[14:36] <diplo> Giving Ubuntu Mate a go today, well once I have backed everything up
[14:37] <diddledan_> one must recognise there's a difference between someone saying "you gotta try ubuntu, mate" and "you gotta try ubuntu mate"
[14:37] <diddledan_> :-p
[14:38] <diplo> Well it's not pronounced "mate" like alright mate
[14:38] <diplo> So I've found out today
[14:38] <diplo> :P
[14:38] <zmoylan-pi> i learned the importance of commas when i helped my uncle jack off a horse... :-P
[14:38] <diddledan_> yeah, I think that makes it sound ponsey tho
[14:40] <diddledan_> I would imagine the horse was somewhat relieved to have that weight-off
[14:40] <diddledan_> whichever way you punctuate it :-p
[15:31] <diddledan_> fun exam answer (supposedly) http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299495/
[15:39] <foobarry> there's only 1 way to pronounce mate surelty?
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> unless you spell if maté
[15:41] <foobarry> but they don't?
[15:43] <zmoylan-pi> seems to have been dropped but still pronounced that way...
[15:51] <bigcalm> Like Cafe
[15:54] <daftykins> i find most pronunciation in the open source world to be quite stupid
[15:56] <diddledan_> café is supposed to be spelt with a ´ over the e. anything else is wrong.
[15:58] <arsenip> well
[15:58] <arsenip> anything else is the eastenders version
[15:58] <daftykins> :>
[15:58] <diddledan_> cath's caff
[15:58] <arsenip> caf-ay (french) or CAFF (eastenders)
[15:58] <arsenip> GOIN DOWN CAFF
[15:58] <diddledan_> daan caff
[15:58] <diddledan_> not down
[15:58] <arsenip> ^
[15:58] <arsenip> sorry.
[15:58] <arsenip> i'm a newbie to south london.
[15:58] <diddledan_> lol
[15:58] <daftykins> saff
[15:58] <arsenip> SAFF
[15:58] <arsenip> ffs
[15:59] <arsenip> sorrY!
[15:59] <daftykins> XD
[15:59]  * arsenip quits life
[15:59] <diddledan_> :-p
[15:59] <arsenip> *liaff
[16:00] <daftykins> hmm a mate is giving me his smashed screen Nexus 5 for free, so i've ordered a cheap £26 screen from Hong Kong to swap :>
[16:00] <diddledan_> you sneaky pete!
[16:00] <arsenip> nice.
[16:00]  * arsenip rubs his iphone
[16:01] <diddledan_> arsenip: pervert
[16:01] <arsenip> probably.
[16:01]  * diddledan_ rubs his, too
[16:01] <arsenip> i'm male.
[16:01]  * zmoylan-pi offers to play phone conkers with nokia dumbphone...
[16:01] <diddledan_> my precious
[16:01] <diddledan_> I like the fingerprinty thingy
[16:01] <daftykins> nah he knows it's been fixable for ages, but i saw him the other day at a party with a Samsung S5 =|
[16:02] <daftykins> some folks are so ridiculous with their money
[16:02] <diddledan_> <--
[16:02] <daftykins> ;]
[16:03] <arsenip> <--
[16:03] <arsenip> rediculous is relative.
[16:03] <diddledan_> I like shiny toys
[16:03] <arsenip> as is money.
[16:03] <daftykins> seems someone i know is still keen on getting a Surface despite having a Lenovo X1 carbon
[16:03] <diddledan_> o_O
[16:03] <arsenip> surface looks good tbh
[16:03]  * diddledan_ checks the lenovo
[16:03] <arsenip> is the x1 not old now ?
[16:04] <Seeker`> Registered : Nov 20 23:44:23 2006 (8y 51w 5d ago)
[16:04] <daftykins> unless you ever want to upgrade it, trollolol
[16:04] <Seeker`> There must be 9 days this week
[16:04] <arsenip> its a laptop ..
[16:04] <daftykins> X1 has a 2015 model
[16:04] <arsenip> if you're buying laptops for upgradability you're doing it wrong :D
[16:04] <arsenip> i say this from my high perch cradling my macbook 12.. of course.
[16:04] <daftykins> not when Lenovos are mostly sold with teensy SSDs
[16:04] <arsenip> ah yes, that i can understand.
[16:04] <daftykins> what the stupid Core M thing?
[16:05] <arsenip> 'low on disk space' shouldnt be an error that exists in todays age.
[16:05] <arsenip> probably daftykins
[16:05] <daftykins> i was able to swap out the 160GB intel for a 512GB Crucial in the X240 of someones
[16:05] <arsenip> though perf isnt an issue really.
[16:06] <daftykins> buying all the accessories to get some sane sockets is? :>
[16:06] <primered6> ~<120gb is not that bad that's what NAS storage is for..
[16:07] <arsenip> i gots all the litle donglefriends daftykins  :D
[16:07] <arsenip> actually i could do with a usb-c to thunderbolt or whatever it is, i guess
[16:07] <daftykins> primered6: perhaps for your own usecase, however i have travelling business folk clients
[16:07] <daftykins> hehe
[16:08] <arsenip> franly the only reason i have 500gig SSD in mine is because i dont want to ever have to delete stuff
[16:08] <arsenip> i can't see many businesses using >100gig on a workstation unless its a creative industry (sound/video processing)
[16:09] <bashrc_> nobody will ever need more than 640K
[16:09] <arsenip> :D
[16:10]  * daftykins groans at the cliché
[16:10] <diddledan_> I use > 100G on my laptop for business
[16:10] <arsenip> i basically work out of crhome and a terminal, so my 500gig exists for random junk downloads and videos to watch on flights. :D
[16:13] <daftykins> i wish i knew who this office opposite was, i'd tell 'em they can save money by turning off their damn screens at night :P
[16:15]  * daftykins keeps using Firefox tab groups before it gets removed in FF 45 :(
[16:22] <diplo> I use > 100G on my laptop and work PC arsenip as do most of the work staff, but I agree in a typical office maybe that would be a lot
[16:25] <awilkins> Windows eats like 60G or something now?
[16:26] <awilkins> I know a lot of it is actually hardlinks to libraries, but still
[16:26] <daftykins> no
[16:28] <daftykins> it's never taken 60GB
[16:29] <primered6> More like 20-30gb
[16:29] <primered6> if that..
[16:30] <daftykins> 10 comes with that funky install shrinking tech
[16:30] <hexhaxtron> Anyone has Freeview HD?
[16:30] <daftykins> what'd the actual question be?
[16:31] <zleap> some channels on freeview are HD,
[16:31] <hexhaxtron> If it works with WiFi or if I need cables connected to the TV?
[16:31] <zleap> like bbc channels, so if you have HDTV you get a better picture
[16:31] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: wait what? freeview is aerial broadcast no o0
[16:31] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, what does it mean aerial? I need an antenna?
[16:32] <daftykins> yeah that's what freeview is, unless something new has come out in the last year i don't know about
[16:32] <zleap> ariel = antenna
[16:32] <hexhaxtron> Or the builtin Freeview in the TV already catches the signal?
[16:32] <daftykins> depends what your TV is capable of
[16:32] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I'm interested in this TV: http://dealbuyer.com/viewproduct/18228/Digihome_48_LED_Full_HD_1080p_TV_2_x_HDMI_2_x_USB_Media_Player
[16:33] <daftykins> so yeah roof antenna only
[16:33] <hexhaxtron> I don't have a roof antenna...
[16:33] <daftykins> then you're up that specific creek with no paddle
[16:34] <daftykins> i think i'd aim for something with a freesat tuner, then you can make use of a sky dish
[16:35] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, can you suggest me an antenna to buy?
[16:35] <daftykins> nope
[16:35] <daftykins> you'll want to phone your local handy installer
[16:36] <daftykins> before that though, use the freeview site to check coverage in your area
[16:36] <zleap> we have a freeview tv with a normal indoor ariel / antenna works ok
[16:36] <daftykins> sounds like non-HD
[16:36] <zleap> the UK should have full coverage of freeview analog channels were switched off IIRC
[16:36] <daftykins> no harm in checing :)
[16:36] <daftykins> +k
[16:37] <zleap> not sure just now we have a new tv and we are using an indoor ariel
[16:37] <hexhaxtron> zleap, something like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/271206041756?adgroupid=13936810266&hlpht=true&hlpv=2&rlsatarget=kwd-124296812946&adtype=pla&ff3=1&lpid=122&poi=&ul_noapp=true&limghlpsr=true&device=c&chn=ps&campaignid=220881786&crdt=0&ff12=67&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff14=122&viphx=1&ops=true&ff13=80
[16:37] <zleap> kinda but yes
[16:37] <zleap> they come in all shapes
[16:37] <hexhaxtron> Thanks! :)
[16:38] <zleap> https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=indoor+ariel&iax=1&ia=images
[16:42] <hexhaxtron> zleap, what do you think of this one? http://www.qvsdirect.com/amplified-indoor-freestanding-digital-freeview-aerial-with-4g-filter?utm_source=google&utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CJDBxJmxlckCFQxmGwodfrMDKg
[16:42] <hexhaxtron> Is it good?
[16:45] <daftykins> you really should just do it right :P
[16:46] <daftykins> after all you only do it once, so there's no point scrimping
[16:46] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, it's not my home... it's a private rented room... I cannot put an antenna on the roof by myself, the landlord needs to give permission for it.
[16:46] <daftykins> weird to have a place with no provision
[16:48] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, but... that antenna works with the TV I mentioned, right? And then I get many channels for free? That's all I need to know.
[16:48] <daftykins> i wouldn't want to say
[16:48] <arsenip> whenever ive lived in rented i've had tv/phone instaleld - usually with landlord perms tho
[16:49] <daftykins> one years little buggers had sky fitted to my place in Portsmouth, they never asked :P
[16:49] <hexhaxtron> I don't have phone either. However, I got wireless Internet. :)
[16:49] <daftykins> phones pretty useless today
[16:49] <daftykins> i only have one from being forced for my VDSL provision
[16:50] <arsenip> tbh i think these dasy its pretty standard to have sky or cable installed
[16:55] <hexhaxtron> arsenip, can I pm you?
[16:56] <diddledan> now that's an odd spam - advertising an "ultra realistic" flight simulator they're calling "VirtualPilot3D"
[16:56] <diddledan> they claim it "is going to be a GAME-CHANGER"
[16:57] <daftykins> diddledan: well you do have to quit what you're playing to run it i suppose ;)
[16:57] <diddledan> lol
[16:57] <arsenip> ofc hexhaxtron
[16:57] <arsenip> im not sure what use i am, though.
[16:58] <daftykins> yeah that arsenip can't even do s saff London accent ;)
[17:00] <arsenip> afaik freeview works via standard tv aerial right? anyting you get from the likes of argos etc would do fine.
[17:01] <daftykins> yeah probably
[17:03] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: http://www.freeview.co.uk/availability
[17:03] <daftykins> see how good the coverage is nearby before investing in some cheap internal antenna
[17:03] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I did that already.
[17:03] <daftykins> oh ok, just not sharing then
[17:04] <daftykins> sue me for trying :P
[17:04]  * diddledan demands monies
[17:04] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, 90 channels, 14 HD and 29 radio stations.
[17:05] <diddledan> daftykins: talking of suing for money - this is a fun talk at the DEFCON security conference some years ago "that awesome time I was sued for two billion dollars" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWqx8goqSY
[17:05] <daftykins> only get 18 over here!
[17:06] <diddledan> seems it was 2009 conference
[17:06] <daftykins> cor
[17:06] <daftykins> but that was last week, no?
[17:40] <daftykins> diddledan: i want that 30 minutes back! :P
[17:55] <diddledan> lol
[17:55] <diddledan> you're stuffed then :-p
[17:55] <daftykins> heh nah it was quite interesting, glad i'm not high profile enough to get such letters
[17:56] <diddledan> indeed. I don't know that I'd be able to spot the silly from the serious
[17:56] <daftykins> just imagine being a family person and finding the time to even sift through it all though, ugh
[18:03] <diddledan> http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/11/16/introducing-edgehtml-13-our-first-platform-update-for-microsoft-edge/
[18:07] <daftykins> still don't feel inclined to run it XD
[18:48] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, do I have to pay some tax to use TV in the UK?
[18:51] <diddledan> hexhaxtron yes
[18:52] <diddledan> hexhaxtron, to wathc live broadcast (even via the internet) you need a "TV License"
[18:52] <diddledan> catch-up that isn't live is ok wihtou tho
[18:52] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, where can I get more info about the TV License?
[18:53] <diddledan> hexhaxtron. tvlicensing.co.uk
[18:53] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, can't I just use an antena and a TV and watch it for free?
[18:54] <diddledan> hexhaxtron, you can, but it's illegal
[18:55] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, are the channels encrypted or something?
[18:56] <diddledan> freeview and freesat are completely unencrypted
[19:32] <Myrtti> TV licence is a bargain
[20:31] <diddledan> ooh, something changed. I wonder what it was.
[20:31] <diddledan> no more "snuck"ing
[21:56] <diddledan> lol https://twitter.com/bsdphk/status/666231716227469312
[22:05] <diddledan> rdio have filed for bankruptcy and pandora have agreed to acquire key assets and staff pending approval by the bankruptcy court
[22:05] <diddledan> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/16/pandora-rdio-acquisition/
[23:14] <popey> !ping
[23:14] <lubotu3`> pong!
[23:14] <popey> hmmm
[23:15] <zmoylan-pi> ding
[23:22] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, you mean:
[23:22] <diddledan> !ding
[23:22] <lubotu3`> dong
[23:23] <zmoylan-pi> !pewpewpew
[23:24] <diddledan> interesting: watching agents of shield ep 7 "I hope you stick around" followed by the video closing