[10:08] <akxwi_dave> Howdo all..
[11:26] <knome> good day
[11:34] <akxwi_dave> morning
[12:58] <flocculant> good day
[12:59] <knome> hullo flocculant 
[12:59] <flocculant> hi knome :)
[13:04] <flocculant> knome: how much use would it be for team to know when test calls are going out? I can see it being helpful for people who fix and upload stuff 
[13:04] <knome> guess it could be useful to have some kind of communication
[13:04] <knome> so that developers would have time to fix bugs they intend to before testing
[13:04] <flocculant> I enabled the calendar output on the qa trello board this morning so I get that in tbird - but perhaps we could add it to the team calendar
[13:04] <knome> or do syncs or whatever
[13:05] <knome> otoh, i don't know if that would make much of a difference - if they don't have time, they don't
[13:05] <knome> yeah, we can do that
[13:05] <knome> i just got to figure out how then...
[13:05] <flocculant> though trello's not specific on what app is being tested 
[13:05] <knome> yeah
[13:06] <flocculant> https://trello.com/calendar/55b334f9c60b8b8c3d8238ce/52a3757d214733820a0023ea/887155a22b2671cc23503acf0ad18dca.ics
[13:06] <knome> let's see...
[13:06] <flocculant> is the iCal feed
[13:15] <knome> flocculant, should show up in the tracker now :)
[13:15] <flocculant> knome: thank you :)
[13:16] <knome> np
[13:16] <knome> happy with the color?
[13:16] <flocculant> yea 
[13:16] <knome> good
[13:16] <flocculant> just glad it's not red :p
[13:16] <knome> :D
[13:17] <flocculant> knome: did you catch any of the rambling discussion krytarik and I got into the other day about the cont docs? 
[13:17] <flocculant> which can in fact be boiled down to 1 statement and 1 question :D
[13:18] <knome> i looked at it briefly but haven't read it throughout
[13:18] <flocculant> well then simply :)
[13:19] <flocculant> A team lead should get sign-off/review opportunity on a page that concerns them.
[13:19] <knome> yep
[13:19] <flocculant> Any reason why these pages need to have Xubuntu all over them? 
[13:19] <flocculant> :)
[13:19]  * knome shrugs
[13:19] <knome> part of that is that the content is mostly copied from other sources
[13:19] <flocculant> probably the qa ones are fullest - mostly copied from elsewhere :)
[13:19] <flocculant> yea :)
[13:20] <knome> so no readon
[13:20] <knome> *reason
[13:20] <knome> and for the review part
[13:20] <knome> the MP review system can be used for other kind of reviews than technical
[13:20] <flocculant> yea
[13:20] <knome> so just push it in through an MP unless you have talked with the appropriate team lead
[13:21] <flocculant> yep
[13:21] <knome> so far i've just pushed things in without asking, because as said, it's just copies from other sources
[13:21] <flocculant> yea I know 
[13:21] <flocculant> just looking ahead some 
[13:21] <knome> yep
[13:21] <knome> same thing as alwyas
[13:21] <flocculant> :)
[13:21] <knome> sigh, always*
[13:22] <flocculant> heh
[13:22] <knome> team leads lead their team, no soloing
[13:22] <flocculant> I wouldn't for instance notice an MP there unless I had done it myself 
[13:22] <knome> of course not, since you aren't a reviewer
[13:23] <flocculant> so perhaps team lead added as reviewer of changes concerning them 
[13:23] <flocculant> anyway - as always it'll come out in the wash :)
[13:23] <knome> our team is so small that i don't think this is even a sensible discusson in some sense, but if i see a change that concerns QA that i know that isn't ran through you, be sure i'll poke you
[13:24] <knome> and i expect slickyma1ter to do the exact same thing
[13:24] <flocculant> yep that works of course
[13:24] <knome> if a non-team member pushes an MP, then it's weird enough anyway
[13:24] <flocculant> yea
[13:24] <flocculant> I agree the team is small and we all talk to each other anyway
[13:26] <flocculant> btw - I subscribed to that fop bug - not likely to be too much of an issue now for anyone no pdf's, but if it's still dying in 3 months 
[13:27] <knome> the new fop is landing sooner or later
[13:27] <knome> it's in proposed and FTBFS, but it's on its way
[13:27] <knome> once the versions match, the pdfs will build again
[13:28] <flocculant> yea I know 
[13:28] <knome> but yeah, good to track it
[13:28] <knome> the bug can be even added to our blueprints
[13:28] <flocculant> was just thinking that 
[13:29] <flocculant> then I can stop marking the mail unread :p
[13:29] <knome> yup :P
[13:29] <flocculant> done :)
[13:30] <flocculant> then undone and redone somewhere else :)
[13:31] <knome> heh
[13:31] <flocculant> added it to the doc bp rather than the bug one
[13:31] <knome> yes, probably appropriate that way
[13:31] <knome> but ultimately - who cares ;)
[13:31] <flocculant> yep
[13:32] <knome> it's true what simon said - i've used LP less now that we have the tracker
[13:32] <flocculant> same
[13:32] <knome> the old tracker couldn't exactly do that
[13:32] <flocculant> one bookmark instead of 7 or 8 for a start :)
[13:32] <knome> there were still situations when it was easier to look at LP
[13:32] <knome> heh, yeah
[13:33] <knome> i wouldn't even need a bookmark
[13:33] <flocculant> well me neither now - tr in the url bar will bring it up first :)
[13:35] <knome> location bar -> tr -> most used link
[13:35] <flocculant> that's what I meant :)
[13:35] <knome> see #xubuntu-offtopic and my lag whine
[13:35] <knome> :P
[13:47] <flocculant> they'll show up eventually with dates
[14:25] <flocculant> welcome back akxwi_dave :)
[14:35] <akxwi_dave> afternoon flocculant 
[14:36] <akxwi_dave> well thats another stupid windows server that went stupid due to an update...
[14:36] <flocculant> ooops
[14:39] <akxwi_dave> tell me.. luckily they are all virtual servers and snapshots.. so didn't take too long to sort out.
[14:39] <flocculant> :)
[14:42] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: I replied 
[14:46] <akxwi_dave> cheers flocculant 
[14:46] <akxwi_dave> just about to send the email to the dev list
[14:47] <flocculant> excellent :)
[14:48] <akxwi_dave> and sent :-)
[14:50] <flocculant> cool - did the poll thing :)
[14:51] <akxwi_dave> cheers.. though i'd better answer it as well
[14:52] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: maybe add that people can join the channel easily via the tracker IRC tab 
[14:54] <flocculant> we've had 9 people join the testers lp group this cycle
[14:57] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: well that's good we can both be there any time :p
[15:01] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: not sure if I said, but I added you to the QA trello thing - so you can do whatever there 
[15:02] <akxwi_dave> thx,  thats good 9 new testers...
[15:16] <akxwi_dave> What is it with Windows Servers today.. The SQL servers just thrown a wobbly, seriously some one needs to write a Legal Practice Management System for Linux.  
[15:28] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: I forwarded the session mail to users
[15:30] <akxwi_dave> thx
[15:43] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: not sure about mailing the testers LP page about how to test :)
[15:48] <akxwi_dave> ;-)
[16:20] <akxwi_dave> thx
[16:23] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 4 updates, showing the latest 3
[16:24] <flocculant> wut? 
[16:24] <flocculant> why does that keep repeating old stuff ... unless because I use the same branch name *shrug*
[16:25] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: nice one from zleap :)
[16:36] <akxwi_dave> time to go.. cya all later
[16:37] <flocculant> cya :)
[20:10] <dkessel> i think i forgot to thank bluesabre for enabling gtk3 builds of mousepad in the ppa; thank you, bluesabre :)
[20:10] <dkessel> it enabled me to get started on an autopilot. now i only have to fight bugs and missing features in the testing tools to get the manual test implemented as an automatic one...
[20:47] <flocculant> dkessel: that's the first positive thing I've heard about our apps :)
[21:09] <knome> well i can tell a lot of positive things about our apps
[21:09] <knome> negative too, though..
[21:10] <flocculant> I can tell lots of negative in relation to autotesting - nice to see something positive 
[21:17] <knome> ;)
[22:13] <ochosi> late evening all
[22:21] <ochosi> what's new?
[22:22] <knome> everything that is not old
[22:22] <knome> (ta-dahhhh!)
[23:57] <bluesabre> hey everyone
[23:57] <bluesabre> dkessel: np
[23:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: My KY weirdo!
[23:57] <bluesabre> :D
[23:57] <knome> hullo bluesabre 
[23:58] <bluesabre> hey Unit193, knome