[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:58] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:59] <popey> yo
[09:28] <dholbach> hey popey, hey davidcalle
[09:28]  * dholbach is off to the post office to send in his mx4 for repairs :-/
[09:32] <davidcalle> dholbach, what happened
[09:32] <davidcalle> ?
[09:33] <dholbach> one day the screen started flickering, now it doesn't turn on
[09:33] <dholbach> it still vibrates when starting and everything, but it the screen stays black
[09:34] <dholbach> all right.. back in a bit
[11:43] <dholbach> relocating to the office, bbiab
[12:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, how are the deployments looking? :)
[12:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, requested one yesterday evening, waiting for an update
[12:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, that's gadget-snaps-for-prod or upgrade-for-staging? :)
[12:58] <davidcalle> dholbach, gadget-snaps-for-prod (which looks great on staging btw :)
[12:59] <dholbach> <3 <3 <3
[12:59] <davidcalle> dholbach, one bug is : if the old plugin is used on a page, when the update is applied, the page is dead and crashes when you try to edit/display it.
[13:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, I've removed the plugin from the gadget prod page, and just copy-pasted the html that was generated by the plugin
[13:01] <dholbach> wow
[13:01] <dholbach> :-(
[13:01] <dholbach> I wonder why that is
[13:01] <dholbach> do we have a backtrace or something?
[13:01] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope, but I'm guessing it's just a matter of plugin removal from the db not being handled gracefully by django
[13:02] <dholbach> hey ... maybe that's fixed with a newer django :-P
[13:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, or, we never change plugin Class names :)
[13:03] <dholbach> sounds like a good plan
[13:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, on an unrelated note, already 7 judges confirmed for the scopes showdown :)
[13:05] <dholbach> awesome :-D
[13:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you think it's doable to get the upgrade branch up on staging for testing on thursday afternoon or is the process more involved and it will take longer?
[13:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, should be fine, but do you think we could create a new Makefile command (or a script), that runs the migration process?
[13:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, I guess we can
[13:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll see what I can do
[13:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, if you have a full plate already, I don't mind doing it
[13:13] <dholbach> no, no - I wanted to do another round of testing anyway
[13:13] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok :)
[13:14] <dholbach> just to triple check that the recent migrations changes didn't break anything else
[13:46] <balloons> Morning
[13:47] <popey> heya
[14:00]  * popey pokes balloons and jose 
[14:01] <popey> also, dpm mhall119 dholbach - who's doing Q&A this week (me and dholbach did last week :D)
[14:01] <jose> popey: pc is turning on
[14:01] <popey> kk
[14:02]  * balloons is waiting on google
[14:02] <dpm> I'm happy to do it today
[14:03] <dpm> balloons, davidcalle, mhall119, any of you up for it too?
[14:04] <popey> balloons, jose http://pad.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2015
[14:10] <mhall119> I can be on today too
[14:17] <dholbach> davidcalle, dpm: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/gadget-snaps/
[14:19] <dholbach> I'm wondering where to put the short list
[14:20] <samsruti> Hey popey :D
[14:20] <popey> hey samsruti !
[14:20] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe at the bottom of /snappy/start(?)  with a link to the long list?
[14:20] <davidcalle> dpm, I can't, it's too early for me today :/
[14:21] <dholbach> davidcalle, or at the bottom of /snappy?
[14:21] <samsruti> i got 2 days holidays for my next exam :P
[14:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes, I have this code ready :) let me have a try
[14:22] <davidcalle> dholbach, you are better than IS to keep me updated on the status of my RTs :p
[14:22] <dholbach> ;-)
[14:23] <dholbach> davidcalle, can bug 1463079 be closed?
[14:24] <davidcalle> dholbach, it can, even if there are still one small stuff to debug on this front...
[14:24] <dholbach> ok
[14:25] <dpm> davidcalle, dholbach, it seems the margins don't look quite right on the gadgets page. The boxes extend to the edges
[14:25] <davidcalle> dpm, yep, I'm on it :)
[14:25] <dholbach> thanks davidcalle
[14:26] <dpm> thanks davidcalle
[14:28] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, better?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, nice work!
[14:29] <dpm> davidcalle, looks great now. How do you actually do the changes? I thought that the boxes themselves were defined in code?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, where do you suppose we put the short list?
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/1470715/+merge/268471 is up to date and tested now
[14:31] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, they aren't anymore, well, the size isn't. Now, these two plugins should be used in twelve-col or row divs.
[14:31] <dholbach> hum
[14:31] <dholbach> so we don't use the plugin?
[14:32] <dpm> yeah, I'm a bit confused too
[14:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, not directly, but inside a text or raw html plugin. The reason is to avoid having a big padding/margins on top and bottom, since we want to integrate them nicely into text (eg. intro text like on this page), or link to "see more" that can be used with the shortlist
[14:34] <dholbach> ah ok
[14:34] <dholbach> now I see it
[14:34] <dholbach> thanks!
[14:35] <davidcalle> I was against doing it this way at first, but, it's actually much more flexible
[14:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, the sortlist, iirc was supposed to be at the bottom of snappy/
[14:36] <dholbach> ok
[14:36] <dholbach> yep, sounds good
[14:36] <dholbach> I'll take a look at it
[14:36] <dpm> davidcalle, ok, looking good. Could you go through the rest of the points we discussed for the long list at http://pad.ubuntu.com/gadget-page-feedback?
[14:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, see the top part of http://imgur.com/LZvpCW7
[14:37] <dholbach> nice :)
[14:39] <davidcalle> dpm, hum, forgot about this, this deployment doesn't contain everything from this list.
[14:39]  * davidcalle opens bug
[14:39] <dpm> ok, thanks
[14:40] <dholbach> yes, a bug would be best - I can take care of some of the bits in there too
[14:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, shall I take care of it?
[14:41] <davidcalle> dholbach, no need, I'll have a branch ready later today
[14:42] <dholbach> ok
[14:57] <dpm> balloons, mhall119, so any of you is up for the Q&A today?
[14:59] <balloons> mmm.. I could be persuaded I guess
[14:59] <balloons> :-)
[15:02]  * popey gets The Persuader.
[15:03] <popey> I like that googling for The Persuader turns up swords, comic book characters, and this picture:- http://members.iinet.net.au/~peterr2/marine/persuader.jpg
[15:03] <popey> Which is what I actually meant :)
[15:04]  * mhall119 is up for it
[15:08] <balloons> popey, lol!
[15:08] <balloons> careful what you input for google image search
[15:14] <balloons> ok, mhall119, dpm. I'll let you handle it. But I've updated the page and I'll schedule the hangout
[15:16] <popey> remember to set the right channel on the on air page
[15:16] <popey> it was set to plenary last time we used it
[15:17] <balloons> channels=ubuntu-on-air :-) And thank you for reminding
[15:20] <mhall119> dpm: mind if we skip our meeting in ~10min, I think we covered everything yesterday
[15:21] <dpm> mhall119, sure
[15:54] <jcastro> mhall119: are you using unity8 on the desktop at all?
[15:56] <mhall119> jcastro: not yet, need more apps
[15:56] <jcastro> hmm, mine doesn't sign in, like I get past lightdm and I see the desktop and launcher, but I can't seem to get past the lock screen
[16:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, I have a small template change that fixes the look of "install on this device" links according to dpm suggestions (removal of tick + &rsaquo;), any issue with me pushing it to trunk directly?
[16:13] <dholbach> no, please go ahead :)
[16:14] <davidcalle> dholbach, ty :)
[16:15] <dholbach> awesome
[16:34] <dholbach> davidcalle, I pushed https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/rework-importer/+merge/277722 - which is still WIP, but I wanted to get it up there, so we can maybe look at it together at some stage :)
[16:37] <davidcalle> dholbach, <3. On this topic, any new update from django upstream?
[16:38] <dholbach> no
[16:38] <dholbach> but I'm breaking up the importer to be more modular anyway, so it should be easier to debug too
[17:01] <dholbach> all right - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:36] <barna> People leave, someone you know and / or have contact who maintains the site ubuntu-br.org ??
[17:36] <barna> her for this download Ubuntu 14.10 that has been discontinued, many new users having trouble for not knowing / know the launch time and maintaining version.
[17:39] <balloons> popey, jose so there is an old gsoc mailing list and freenode channel. Should we revive, ignore, bury, or ?
[17:39] <jose> balloons: I'd personally prefer to keep it on -community-team
[17:40] <balloons> that's the intent. I'm leaning towards deprecating it altogether.. I'm concerned about having the old channel and list around might attract people and confuse
[17:41] <jose> IRC we can easily remove
[17:41] <jose> ML we'd need to ping IS
[18:15] <wxl> hey folks. is anyone currently maintaining responsibility for the locoportal?
[18:16] <wxl> pablo and myself are both waiting on being added to the devs
[18:16] <wxl> i just filed a few bugs
[18:51] <mhall119> wxl: daker was the lead developer on loco portal
[18:51] <wxl> mhall119: 'was' being the operative word XD
[18:52] <daker> wxl: sorry about that
[18:53] <wxl> daker: no problem. if you're the guy, great. if not, getting someone else would be great.
[18:54] <daker> wxl: I will do
[18:54] <wxl> daker: thx! perhaps giving the loco council admin access might be useful?
[18:55] <mhall119> wxl: ltp ownership has changed multiple times over the years, daker is just the most recent
[18:55] <mhall119> wxl: loco council should have extra privileges on LTP
[18:55] <daker> The first thing we need to do is to migrate to a newer stable version
[18:55] <mhall119> daker: you mean the ancient version of django LTP uses isn't cutting it anymore? :)
[18:55] <mhall119> what is it, 1.3 or something?
[18:55] <wxl> hehehe
[18:56]  * wxl just filed a couple bugs
[18:56] <mhall119> daker: FYI, IS is probably going to want it charmed and mojo-speced before doing major updates
[18:57] <daker> Unfortunately yes we are still an unsupported version 1.3
[18:57] <wxl> mhall119: while i got your attention, if i wanted to make a feature request to our (ubuntu's) online toolset (namely kanboard), would i run that through the cc or just email it (well, rt) directly?
[19:00] <mhall119> wxl: if it's a technical thing, just go directly to RT
[19:00] <wxl> mhall119: okie dokie. thx.
[19:29] <wxl> hehehe
[19:29] <wxl> oops wrong channel