=== attente_ is now known as attente === maclin1 is now known as maclin === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === maclin1 is now known as maclin === siel_ is now known as siel === strycore_ is now known as strycore === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung === bpierre_ is now known as bpierre === hikiko_ is now known as hikiko [05:44] Godo morning [06:35] good morning [06:38] bonjour didrocks ! *accolade* [06:39] * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti [06:41] didrocks: as-tu eu un bon long week-end ? [06:41] good morning desktopers! [06:41] hey didrocks pitti [06:41] bonjour seb128 ! [06:43] pitti: "bon", difficile de le qualifier ainsi avec les évènements, mais long, oui… [07:00] pitti: btw, sorry for not answering you right away on telegram, I didn't get any notification. I think the issue is the new "samsung optimizer" that was installed by default with OTA 5.1 and kills unused background service [07:01] didrocks: ah, pas de problème -- j'étais juste un peu inquiet [07:02] pitti: désolé, je vais blacklister telegram je pense pour que samsung ne "l'optimise" pas :) [07:06] didrocks: wow, we install that by default? that sounds a bit overzealous [07:06] sounds a bit like the Android "greenify"; that's able to kill whatsapp and friends as well, but needs this google framework for push notifications [07:07] pitti: I mean, samsung does on their galaxy S6 [07:08] pitti: yeah, I thought that telegram was using push notification and that this optimization wouldn't matter (it doesn't for instance for emails and hangouts), but maybe telegram doesn't… [08:20] good morning! [08:20] good morning larsu [08:21] hey didrocks! Ça va? [08:21] larsu: ça va, et toi ? [08:21] ça va bien, merci [08:30] hey larsu, wie gehts? [08:30] morning seb128! Good thanks! You? [08:30] great, thanks! [08:30] Morning [08:30] hey Trevinho [08:30] morning Trevinho [08:31] Hi seb128 larsu [08:31] hey Trevinho [08:31] didrocks: hey [08:35] hey larsu [08:35] hey Trevinho [08:35] hm, so unity or something else regressed un-maximizing a window [08:35] maximize a window, or fullscreen it (F11), then unmaximize again, and it still uses the whole desktop size [08:36] instead of being restored to its original size [08:36] do you guys see this as well? [08:36] guten morgen pitti! [08:36] actually, I only see this with gnome-terminal [08:37] ya, gnome-terminal does all kinds of sizing tricks [08:37] sigh === Guest8984 is now known as fredp === fredp is now known as Guest5170 [08:48] pitti: hi [08:48] pitti: gnome terminal has some other issues related to positioning too [09:00] morning [09:00] good morning willcooke [09:02] oh, it's that day [09:02] hey willcooke [09:03] * didrocks gets off his lawn then :p [09:04] ha [09:04] :) [09:04] yo [09:04] what up [09:04] hey Laney [09:05] hi willcooke, wb didrocks! [09:05] good long weekend? [09:06] morning willcooke & Laney! [09:06] Laney: long weekend indeed, "good", well, was hard to truly rejoice for the 40 years of my brother given the context [09:07] how was yours? [09:15] hey Laney [09:21] * willcooke discovers gtk3-widget-factory [09:21] our new theme master ;-) [09:22] it's taking me a loooooong time [09:22] :) [09:24] didrocks: :/ but mine was good, went to a party down in norwich [09:24] hey seb128 [09:45] hey Laney! === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv [09:53] seb128: how is your xenial experience so far? [09:53] good [09:53] ok, upgrading then, it will all be your fault! :) [09:53] well, less good since the new GTK [09:53] ah ? [09:53] but don't stop on that, it doesn't bother others as much it seems [09:54] my laptop is old and slower than most [09:54] perf regression or anything else? [09:54] didrocks, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv [09:54] it's new gtk then old one [09:54] didrocks: by and large okay; some GTK regressions (some mild flickering, weird dialog layouts), but that's about it [09:54] didrocks: do it! :-) [09:55] hey pitti [09:55] seb128: ah indeed, quite annoying visually on the long term I guess, but yeah, not blocking [09:55] right [09:55] pitti: ok, I'll add you to the list of people to look after if things aren't smoothly ;) [09:56] well if it's your work box the visual annoyance can make your days less good [09:56] so your call [09:56] you can also update and pin back old gtk [09:56] * pitti s'enfuit très rapid [09:56] seb128: yeah, it's my work box, but yeah, pinning back old gtk is an option [09:57] see how much that bothers you firsyt [09:57] some people don't even notice it [09:57] so it might be good ;-) [09:57] "très vite", non? (I keep mixing up the adjective and adverb) [09:57] "très vite" yeah ;) [09:57] hum [09:58] the list of new packages to install is a little bit too long/large to my taste [09:58] * didrocks looks [09:58] I don't find the flickering that bothersome TBH -- if seb128 hadn't pointed it out I probably wouldn't even have noticed [09:58] pitti, as said my laptop is old/slow so it might be more noticable than on the new configs most people have [09:59] but then again it doesn't happen on terminals, and that's what I'm mostly using [10:01] Laney: sorry for the autopkgtest worker spam [10:01] we have a revert for the flickering thing [10:01] Laney: bos01 is behind on importing cloud images, so it still didn't get the new cloud-init [10:01] might include it in 3.18.5 later [10:01] Laney: TL;DR: on it [10:02] Laney, upload! [10:02] pitti: ah right, I was wondering [10:02] great :-) [10:02] still want Trevinho to comment on implementing the frame clock [10:02] he didn't really say anything when we asked yesterday [10:02] (hi Trevinho!!!!) [10:03] I bet it's not going to be trivial [10:03] or it would have been done [10:03] but let's see :-) [10:03] good job we don't only do trivial work [10:03] shrug [10:03] that's not what I meant... [10:03] but I wouldn't block on that to be done and landing to "fix" gtk [10:04] we can add the revert and drop it later [10:04] wasn't going to, that's why I said I would probably upload it [10:04] it sounded a bit like "will be hard, let's not do it" [10:04] no, "let's not block on it" [10:04] ok ;-) [10:05] your "waiting for Trevinho to reply" was sounding bit like "uploaded is blocked on that to be get an answer" [10:05] anyway we are good [10:05] waiting for Trevinho to reply in any case ;-) [10:05] hey didrocks, want to help me with some python stuff? :) :) :) :) [10:06] Laney: sure! [10:06] bring it on! [10:06] yay [10:06] seeing something like this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24799146/use-multiprocessing-process-inside-a-script-installed-by-setuptools [10:06] when trying to use the appstream generator from git [10:06] installed into a virtualenv [10:07] * Laney lets you on the machine [10:07] Laney: so, it's not related to setuptools, right? Rather multiprocess [10:07] dunno what the real problem is [10:08] didrocks: ssh ubuntu@10.55.60.155 [10:09] (on VPN) [10:09] on it! [10:09] so, what command is triggering the stacktrace? [10:09] ok, it works when I run the script directly [10:09] so something in the virtualenv breaks it [10:09] ok [10:10] alright, source appstream/bin/activate [10:10] ah, appstream is the virtualenv [10:10] sourced [10:10] cd dep11; dep11-generator process . xenial [10:11] takes 20 seconds or so [10:11] was just what I was going to ask :p [10:11] ok, got the stack [10:11] code is in ~/appstream-dep11 [10:11] I just did: python3 setup.py build && python3 setup.py install to install it into that virtualenv [10:11] dunno if that is right [10:12] Laney: you enabled system package in your virtualenv, right? [10:12] yeah [10:12] --site-packages or something [10:12] as I see a mix of system libs and some from virtualenv [10:12] yep [10:12] Laney: ok, will have a look (leaving in 5-10 minutes for a run to meet Julie at the park) [10:13] Laney: no worry if I handle that after it? [10:13] ok [10:13] thanks! [10:13] Laney: can I install some packages on the system? [10:13] yw ;) [10:13] like ipython [10:13] yeah [10:13] great! [10:14] I will write a charm for it at some point I guess [10:14] but good to be using it out of git [10:14] yeah ;) [10:14] since ximion did some improvements [10:15] maybe I can just build and run it out of the tree directly? [10:15] Laney: I can have a look at this as well if you wish (after debugging) [10:16] this avoids the traceback completely [10:16] anyway, go run [10:17] Laney: better to understand it still [10:17] so that you can work from git [11:08] didrocks: hah, just saw fsckd in action in the IMPI console on the data center's armhf test box :) [11:42] hey Laney, didrocks pitti [11:43] monring all [11:43] hi darkxst and andyrock [11:47] * darkxst spent the day in court, and walked out with a settlement ;) [11:48] a good one? [11:50] 30% of a convoluted calculation, which excluded her previous ex's settlement [11:50] and given its all over now, I am happy with that [11:52] pretty sure she is sitting at home less happy, they came to court adament the case would just be thrown out]\ [11:55] time to move on! [11:56] Laney, yep! [11:59] Laney, seb128 willcooke, is there any actual plan for switching over to gnome-software? like packagekit transition, switching to apt-cc or adapting aptdaemon to cope, and then the DEP 11 metadata [12:00] and that is all before you get to writing your plugins for reviews and what not [12:06] robert_ancell is mostly working on that stuff [12:07] I've been playing with the extractor [12:07] in a bit http://162.213.34.169/html/ will stop being 404 [12:08] still 404 [12:08] still 404 [12:08] f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 [12:08] * larsu prefers Ctrl+R for some reason [12:08] me too actually [12:08] still 404 [12:10] Laney, your not exactly filling me with confidence there! [12:10] Laney: hi! [12:11] darkxst: ? [12:11] packagekit transition is painful at best [12:11] I guess what's useful for you to know is [12:11] if you want to help out, talk to Robert [12:15] pitti: ahah, excellent! :) [12:15] ok, so there is no plan then? ;) [12:15] hey darkxst [12:15] what do you want? [12:16] the plan is to work on it until it works [12:17] I'm not doing it myself atm so I can't give more precise details [12:19] * didrocks has some pain in the arm due to almost falling off the bike :/ [12:20] Laney, not personally directed at you, but I do wonder if another unachievable goal has been ticked off the list [12:20] let's hope not [12:29] darkxst: I just made https://trello.com/b/o3AB123B/gnome-software [12:29] will pass it on to track the task [12:29] HTH! [12:30] Laney, you mean I have to sign up for another website ;( [12:30] only if you want to change it [12:31] Laney: reviewed your britney branch [12:31] thanks [12:31] going to make tea before crying at it :) [12:33] * pitti goes to grab lunch too [12:44] back from lunch [12:44] speaking of packagekit doko seems to ignore me [12:45] I'm going to delete 1.0 again from proposed [12:45] WOAH [12:46] why do I have a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE tab bar in gnome-terminal? [12:46] Laney: because it's an important one, smart system! :) [12:48] that's even on my non hidpi system [12:48] is it just me that thinks it's big? [12:55] Laney, yeah it is too big. [12:55] it's probably that + icon making it big [12:55] Laney, it doesn't seem to inherit the standard tabs styling so will likely need an app specific style [12:55] I can probably fix it [12:55] it's on my list [12:56] oh, which reminds me - larsu I never did get the inspector to work with terminal. Any ideas? === nessita_ is now known as nessita [12:56] oh I guess not [12:58] not the icon, that is [12:58] so maybe they can be themed [12:59] yeah, I think it's probably padding [12:59] leaving it with you [12:59] * Laney will stop noticing [12:59] * Laney "OMG THE TAB BAR IS SO THIN NOW" [13:00] :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:17] Sweet5hark1, is there a way to stop LOK creating lock files? setting 'SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING' to 0 doesn't seem to do it? [13:30] Sweet5hark1, found an alternative option which works http://askubuntu.com/a/606460/612 === francisco is now known as Guest59143 === Pici` is now known as Pici [13:46] Laney: ok, I reduced it and found the cause (but not have an explanation yet) [13:47] go didrocks! [13:47] don't interrupt my existing run please ;-) [13:47] (in screen) [13:48] Laney: I'm making script modification, but as your one is already running, that should be all right :) [13:48] make a copy? :P [13:48] (hum, I don't see a screen running) [13:48] Laney: the issue is the original script [13:48] like the wrapper [13:49] so I have to register a new one [13:49] Laney: is the wrapper in git? [13:49] what's the wrapper? [13:49] /home/ubuntu/appstream/bin/dep11-generator [13:49] yes [13:49] urgh [13:49] normally, those kind of things are generated [13:49] oh wait [13:49] you mean the thing that calls some other thing [13:50] yeah, the entry point if you prefer [13:50] that was generated [13:50] ok [13:50] look at ~/appstrem-dep11/ [13:50] ok, that's the git? [13:51] ye [13:52] this generated one is weird, quite different from usual ones [13:52] let me try with one generated here with 3.4 [13:52] I bet that's what doesn't set __spec__ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:18] Laney: ok, found a way to make it work I think [14:19] so, the real issue is that the old scripts that setuptools is generating is using directly __import__, which doesn't set new features in python3.4 like __spec__ [14:20] __spec__ is needed on the main module when initiliazing first pool of multiprocessing in one and only one case: if you multiprocessing.set_start_method('forkserver') [14:20] (which is the case ofc here) [14:20] so, the real issue is the way setuptools is doing this __import__() [14:20] it's not the case with a better/newer way of initiliazing those scripts [14:21] using entrypoints [14:21] (I emulated using entrypoints on the machine's install to confirm) [14:21] moin moin [14:22] that means as well that I need to change the way I guess Matthias is generating the executable script for his own testing purpose [14:22] (I guess doing something like what I do in ubuntu make) [14:22] hey desrt [14:22] and then, load_entry_points is DTRT for initiliazing a module [14:23] hey desrt! [14:23] Laney: so, happy to work on a branch to change that upstream if you agree, but I wouldn't mind before proposing this for review that we try to do a fresh install (if you don't mind) on the server [14:23] (just a new virtualenv should be enough) [14:23] good morning Laney, didrocks (and others) [14:23] didrocks: ok, let my current run finish though please [14:23] didrocks: or git clone appstream-dep11 appstream-dep11-didrocks and work from that [14:24] should be isolated then [14:24] Laney: I don't see any screen process running though, is that expected? [14:24] hey desrt [14:24] didrocks: WEIRD [14:24] it is running though, try screen -r [14:24] seb128: good morning [14:25] Laney: yeah, right, ps aux | grep screen doesn't return anything, weird [14:25] desrt, how was your secret blue meeting? ;-) [14:25] how strange [14:25] anyway, if you work from a clone it'll be fine [14:25] thx for the knowledge! [14:25] Laney: any public git branch I could fork? that would be easier than working on the machine directly [14:25] seb128: didn't happen yet :) [14:25] Laney: yw! [14:25] yeah [14:26] desrt, oh ok, I though it was for yesterday ;-) [14:26] * didrocks likes the confort of his dev setup :p [14:26] it's on github [14:26] ximion/appstream-dep11? [14:26] seb128: but since you ask, i pulled a jarvis virus during my morning hack run, so that's nice :) [14:26] Laney: thanks! [14:26] * didrocks clicked "fork" [14:27] ubuntu@appstream:~/appstream-dep11$ git config --get remote.origin.url [14:27] https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11.git [14:27] Laney: ok, let's see once this run finishes, I shouldn't be too long to have something pushed on github [14:28] * Laney speed builds gtk to upload before lunch [14:28] desrt, starting the day with some activity, nice! [14:28] stupid early team meeting, stupid GMT [14:29] ya... i go for a morning walk now :) [14:29] definitely slowed down though... no all-night 6-hour hack runs... i just crossed 400km, and the last 100km was definitely slower than the ones before. [14:29] Laney: missed lunch? [14:30] I usually have it quite late [14:30] * desrt digs in to vi [14:30] meh, I'll upload this after getting back [14:30] bye! [14:30] enjoy your lunch! [14:37] Laney, have fun [15:04] Laney: seems to finish on: [15:04] rsync: link_stat "/home/ubuntu/dep11/log" failed: No such file or directory (2) [15:04] rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1183) [sender=3.1.1] [15:04] on another note, my branch is up on github [15:05] (https://github.com/didrocks/appstream-dep11/tree/setuptools_scripts) === Guest80875 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest20594 === Guest20594 is now known as mfisch [15:22] Oh man, this is too early for a meeting. [15:23] what time is it in your tz now? [15:24] seb128: It's 10:23. I just mean I'm unprepared. [15:24] ah [15:24] well you are not first in the list [15:24] do it the Laney way, just write your summary while others are going ;-) [15:27] you don't know I do that! [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 [15:30] Meeting started Tue Nov 17 15:30:01 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (out?), happyaron(out?), hikiko(hols), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:30] hi all [15:30] o/ [15:30] hey [15:30] \o [15:30] hey [15:30] Laney, did you just admit? ;-) [15:30] hey! [15:31] Heeeeeej! [15:31] o/ [15:31] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: andyrock [15:31] hey [15:31] hey [15:32] nothing much to say: basically going through all the unity MP's [15:32] hey [15:32] I'm doing the last couple of reviews right now [15:32] thanks andyrock [15:32] pretty short ones so should take one hour [15:33] and I can start coding again \o/ [15:33] :D [15:33] thanks andyrock, it's an important task, so thanks for sticking at it [15:33] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: attente [15:34] more upstream fixes to maliit-framework and maliit-input-context-gtk [15:34] spent some time trying to track down the double tapping issue, the problem is in ubuntu-keyboard [15:34] starting packaging the new maliit release, but tests are failing... [15:34] (eof) [15:34] thanks attente, good wok on Maliit [15:34] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: desrt [15:34] hi [15:34] (slightly) short week last week [15:35] usual bug stuff, pushed some patches [15:35] back to working on inotify again :) [15:35] eof [15:35] thanks desrt [15:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:35] hey, I continued to work on issues from last week: [15:35] * offered fix for bug #1337873 upstream, got positive feedback, though they ask for refactoring of the whole affected area. Everything is waiting for upstream action at: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92886. I will prepare a debdiff for xenial as soon as this is accepted [15:35] Freedesktop bug 92886 in daemon "PolkitAgentSession incorrectly handles multiline PAM_TEXT_INFO output" [Normal,New] [15:35] bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Vivid) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873 [15:36] ehm... that is bug #1510824 [15:36] bug 1510824 in PolicyKit "PolkitAgentSession incorrectly handles multiline output (as observed with pam_vas)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510824 [15:36] * testing fix for bug #1337873 - working fine so far [15:36] * didn't have time to finish the wiki page about debugging polkit, but I will share the link and will appreciate any feedback as soon as it's done. [15:36] * didn't have time to finish the wiki page about debugging polkit, but I will share the link and will appreciate any feedback as soon as it's done. [15:36] EOF [15:36] thanks dgadomski [15:36] thank you [15:37] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: didrocks [15:37] Short week (3 days only). [15:37] Ubuntu Make: [15:37] - released Ubuntu Make 15.11.1, publish on various social media + blog post. [15:37] - tweaked the release script. [15:37] - add and merge and Twine game editor support. [15:37] - worked on atom.io integration, changed upstream build tool support to publish some archive publication and CI integration. This is pending review from the github's team. [15:37] - ensure --help always returned the desired help (global, category or framework). Add tests for those. [15:37] - fix some i18n bugs and be more relient against user setup. Fixed as well pt_BR translations. [15:37] - run and test to make the test running environment more independant of user setup (like language). Running that for large tests. [15:37] - explored genymotion integration for Android vm testing. [15:37] . [15:37] thanks didrocks [15:37] #topic FJKong [15:37] NO === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-11-17 | Current topic: FJKong [15:37] he also helped me! [15:37] 1 debug one skin problem report by user [15:37] 2 update code [15:37] add auto start to pinyin search [15:37] for primary user they can use gui tools to setup task [15:37] 3 go to hospital [15:37] eof [15:38] how's the wrist? [15:38] better [15:38] thanks [15:38] ouch. get better [15:38] thanks FJKong [15:38]