[04:42] <mapp> hi
[04:51] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[07:00] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:43] <knightwise> morning brobostigon
[07:44] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[08:18] <knightwise> hey brobostigon ,  how are you dude
[08:35] <DJones> I think I'll give this project a miss, somehow doesn't appeal to me https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1468268424/l-i-v-i-n-hive
[08:56] <Myrtti> I'd rather eat mealworms that grasshoppers
[08:56] <Myrtti> grasshoppers were a bit too crunchy for my taste
[08:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:02] <DJones> One of the people at work has a 9 year old daughter, her christmas request is for edible bugs to try, she tried grasshoppers at school and wants to try different bugs now
[09:07] <Myrtti> that's cute
[09:44] <foobarry> why does git not track files after i git add them?
[09:44] <foobarry> # On branch master
[09:44] <foobarry> # Changed but not updated:
[09:44] <foobarry> lots of files
[09:44] <foobarry> #   (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
[09:44] <SuperMatt> http://matty.digital is now signed by letsencrypt.org :D
[09:45] <SuperMatt> uhhh, there should be an s in there, but it redirects anyway
[09:46] <bashrc_> nice
[09:48] <foobarry> ah, git commit -a
[10:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Home-Made Bread Day! 😃
[10:08] <foobarry> every day is HMB day
[10:08] <JamesTait> 🙌
[10:09] <SuperMatt> bleep bloop
[10:09] <JamesTait> It should be, I need more practise.
[10:09] <SuperMatt> I guess now I have my own flat, I could make my own bread
[10:09] <foobarry> makes my little daughter less farty
[10:09] <foobarry> they put loads a crap in supermarket bread
[10:10] <JamesTait> Blame the daughter and the supermarket bread. 😉
[10:12] <MooDoo> howdy all
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> your intestine needs gas to operate efficently iirc
[10:32] <davmor2> JamesTait: not so much the songs relevance here as the band name :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q1kB0R4Ijs
[10:36]  * awilkins loves home made bread
[10:36] <awilkins> I may have to make some later now
[10:36] <awilkins> Home made focaccia 4tw
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> Down with Chorelywood!
[11:46] <popey> TwistedLucidity, i used to work in Kings Langley, whenever I said "Kings Langley", wifey would immediately say "Chorleywood!" because the two were always said together in the traffic reports on radio...
[11:55] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rj9p21r6jowb4o7/AACkI5b027SctsMRNppGZLfOa?dl=0
[11:55] <daftykins> £160 27" HannsG 2560x1440 IPS arrived :O
[11:57] <TwistedLucidity> daftykins: What version of Linux is that in the screenshot? Looks totally amazing!
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> looks like xubuntu...
[11:58] <daftykins> i would imagine the less said about that the better :>
[11:59] <daftykins> that's about the only machine in the house that has HDMI and can drive that res; even then it required going into the advanced settings, setting a custom mode and changing the timing standard
[12:00] <daftykins> i'd hate to think how bad the same would be with xrandr - often i see folk trying to add a mode over in #ubuntu and all it does it spit out some complaint at the parameters regardless of being correct or not :P
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> the fun of selecting a freq that creates a whine that annoys the kids, cats and dogs...
[12:02] <daftykins> :) there's something odd about having VGA on the above display, given it can only do 2048x1536 max...
[12:08]  * zmoylan-pi misses the green text on black of ancient ibm monitor i first used in 80s... hercules video card powered it.
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> franken pc that someone had erased the disk park utility on.  so it had to be moved super carefully.
[12:10] <daftykins> couldn't obtain it again? 0o
[12:10] <diddledan> lol, my first pc had one of those utilities - dad added a call to it via a batch script called bye.bat, so to shutdown I just typed "bye" and waited for the hard drive to shutdown then power off
[12:10] <zmoylan-pi> well it would involve finding a bbs that hosted park utilities for companies that no longer existed iirc
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> and the bbs would most likely be in usa so be a long distance call...
[12:11] <diddledan> skyper
[12:11] <diddledan> skype
[12:11] <diddledan> :-p
[12:12] <diddledan> I wonder if anyone has tried data calls via skype
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> also the noisiest hard drive i ever used.  i could hear the heads moving 2 rooms away
[12:14] <zmoylan-pi> i did once try an acoustic coupler to an analog mobile in 80s...
[12:14] <diddledan> wow
[12:14] <diddledan> fun
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> more a proof of concept than practical as calls were stupidly expensive.  a call to a nearby bbs was like calling japan level of cost...
[12:16] <zmoylan-pi> but i thought it might be useful if boss was in backend of ireland and needed code or binaries sent instead of a round trip back to dublin
[12:23] <diddledan> I wonder if I'm highlighted in intelligence agencies' extremist category yet
[12:23] <diddledan> (visiting linux journal might make you such, e.g.)
[12:24] <zmoylan-pi> i ordered a copy of guerilla days by tom barry over a decade ago to be sure :-)
[12:24] <diddledan> for any NSA or GCHQ guys, I'm not hard to find; I use my real name for example
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> i've loaned that book to dozens of people...
[12:25] <diddledan> although I appear to no-longer be on the first page of teh googs
[12:28] <diddledan> looks like my homepage is the top result actually referring to me at number 24
[12:28] <diddledan> when you search for my name that is
[12:38] <diddledan> looks like isis have managed to convince france to wage holy war on them
[12:39] <diddledan> ref: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/france-launches-new-airstrikes-against-is/ar-BBn63WV
[12:46] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, can I pm you?
[12:56] <daftykins> just ask stuff in channel so everyone can have input
[12:59] <diddledan> ^ wot 'e sed!
[13:00] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, diddledan I just want to know if I can get problems or get caught if I use a Smart TV with an antenna without paying for the license?
[13:01] <Laney> O_O
[13:05] <daftykins> you are at risk, so it's your gamble
[13:05] <daftykins> i don't have a license and therefore i don't use any broadcast TV method. simple as.
[13:07] <foobarry> The Guardian
[13:07] <foobarry> FHM and Zoo magazines to suspend publication
[13:07] <foobarry> replaced by reddit
[13:08] <SuperMatt> pretty much
[13:08] <SuperMatt> I'm not surprised, they just couldn't' keep up
[13:11] <foobarry>  FHM’s circulation fell to less than 67,000 for the first six months of this year.That compares to the more than 700,000 copies FHM was selling in 2000,
[13:11] <SuperMatt> well, we all still had dial back then
[13:20] <zmoylan-pi> so mens mags on the way out, even playboy won't be printing nudes next year, what are sales figures like for womens mags i wonder
[13:20] <foobarry> gossip mags?
[13:21] <foobarry> all mags are failling across the board
[13:22] <zmoylan-pi> well there's fashion/gossip/crafting plus other categories that if you saw on a waiting room table would label womens mags
[13:22] <foobarry> all except slimming world
[13:22] <foobarry> which has grown
[13:22] <foobarry> http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/article/1333599/magazines-abcs-top-100-glance
[13:23] <foobarry> linux format in the top 50 digital editions. not this year though
[13:25] <daftykins> i saw a Linux Format in a local Waitrose the other day, DVD said it had ubuntu 15.04 ¬_¬
[13:26] <foobarry> wow
[13:26] <foobarry> the only mag i ever buy is airfix model world...free calednar this month :)
[13:26] <daftykins> hahaha
[13:26] <foobarry> linux magz are up against it when g+ supplies my needs
[13:26] <daftykins> all the free stuff gets lost to buyers over here i think
[13:27] <zmoylan-pi> does it come in parts that you have to assemble? :-)
[13:27] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: 13 pieces
[13:27]  * zmoylan-pi misses the days when computer shopper was about 1000 pages of adverts... and started on page 200 or so...
[13:33] <foobarry> heh
[13:34] <daftykins> i remember those ;_;
[13:34] <diddledan> yey bugs! https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=557087
[13:35] <Laney> yeah I remember buying those magazines that were just shop listings
[13:35] <Laney> and coming up with my dream PC
[13:35] <Laney> then working out that if I just did my paper round for 2 years
[13:35] <daftykins> then not affording it and having the sads? :D
[13:35] <Laney> and spent no money at all
[13:35] <Laney> ............
[13:35] <Laney> yeah that happened
[13:36] <daftykins> i used the entire wage of a supermarket shelf stacking job to buy a single graphics card once
[13:36] <daftykins> geforce 2 GTS!
[13:37] <diddledan> what was the games mail-order catalogue that got put into magazines back in the 90s?
[13:39] <diddledan> maybe special reserve?
[14:26] <diplo_> afternoon all
[14:29] <daftykins> o/
[14:31] <diplo_> root
[14:31] <diplo_> arse
[14:33] <diddledan> language timothy
[14:33] <diplo> It's a peice of my anatomy :D
[14:33] <diddledan> :-p
[14:38] <daftykins> glad it's not your root password ;)
[14:38] <diddledan> my root password is toor
[14:39] <daftykins> how about on your roottoor?
[14:46] <diplo> Tis a fresh installed VM, no users yet :/
[14:52] <foobarry> http://superuser.com/a/440057 << can someone help with the sed command please?
[14:52] <foobarry> don't understand the line break
[14:54] <Myrtti> I have a sneaking suspicion I had to do it with AWK way back when
[14:54] <foobarry> sed: -e expression #1, char 48: unterminated address regex
[15:00] <foobarry> awksome
[15:00] <foobarry> it seems to work!
[15:03] <Myrtti> I is helpful!
[15:03] <foobarry> thanks for the hint
[15:43] <_Ridgewing> Just looking at the lastest thingy from the government (UK) http://postimg.org/image/uzamha2yv/
[15:45] <diddledan> ok?:
[15:49] <Myrtti> diddledan: I agree
[16:33] <awilkins> "sod off dave"
[16:33] <awilkins> Oh, wait, RANDOM words
[17:55] <daftykins> heh good fun calling up some clients, this old mate of my dads was telling me the company opposite his home had huge wheelie bins full of 17" LCDs and PCs that all worked, just now
[17:55] <zmoylan-pi> illegally dumping computer hardware?
[17:55] <daftykins> nah it's what that company does
[17:55] <daftykins> he caught a couple before the rain came :D
[17:56] <bashrc_> bonus
[18:17] <Seeker`> Are there any irc logs around from 2007 on the web?
[18:17] <diddledan> Seeker`: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[18:17] <Seeker`> Don't think loco logs there go back that far
[18:20] <DJones> Seeker`: 200
[18:20] <DJones> 4
[18:20] <Seeker`> diddledan: they go back to 18th nov 2010
[18:20] <Seeker`> for ubuntu-uk
[18:21] <DJones> Maybe thats when it became offical and had a logbot
[18:21] <daftykins> after anything in particular?
[18:22] <Seeker`> trying to work out when mootbot first appeared
[18:23] <Seeker`> Trying to remember if I actually wrote it, or whether I stole the code from elsewhere :P
[18:24] <DJones> Seeker`: Have you been sued for copyright yet? If not, its yours :)
[18:24] <daftykins> or it's really bad? ;)
[18:24] <Seeker`> DJones: haha, no. But I don't maintain meeting bot code any longer either :P
[18:25] <Seeker`> Just a discussion I'm having with someone elsewhere. I *think* I wrote mootbot in response to an ubuntu-uk meeting that went on forever
[18:25] <Seeker`> I'm not sure who was around back then though :P
[18:25] <Seeker`> other than popey
[18:30] <popey> :)
[18:31] <popey> pretty sure we have older logs than that
[18:31] <Seeker`> yay! it's popey!
[18:31] <popey> maybe not
[18:31] <Seeker`> apparently I did write it in response to an overly long meeting https://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/Meetings-Minutes-and-Mootbot
[18:32] <popey> I've seen it used by other projects too
[18:32] <popey> including fedora and suse
[18:32] <Seeker`> I think the original mootbot is long dead, but there have been ports of rewrites of rewrites etc.
[18:32] <popey> heh
[18:33] <Seeker`>  It was started as a clone/replacement of meetbot by HolgerLevsen, which was itself a derivative of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot used by the Ubuntu Scribes team
[18:33] <Seeker`> That's the debian one
[18:36] <DJones> Did mootbot become alanbell's meetingology
[18:37] <popey> maybe
[18:38] <daftykins> i take it the other alans didn't drop of the face of the earth - and just eschew IRC these days?
[18:38] <daftykins> *off
[18:38] <popey> yeah, busy busy
[18:38] <DJones> Probably can't get irc in the pepper tunnel
[18:39] <DJones> Alan Bell is certainly active on twitter with his fire creating peppers
[18:39] <daftykins> ah good good :D
[18:40] <daftykins> sad if that Pi project never got any further though
[18:48] <Seeker`> DJones: I think he reimplemented Mootbot as meetingology
[18:48] <DJones> quite possibly
[18:49] <DJones> It was done quite quickly, not sure which source he used
[19:31] <foobarry> what happened about the pi's ? wasn't that a kickstarter type thing?
[19:32] <foobarry> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu#/