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| tsdgeos | cimi: note the new_dash thing breaks at some point because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1513897 | 08:37 |
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| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1513897 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "TextField regression/behavior change in 1.3" [High,Confirmed] | 08:37 |
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| cimi | tsdgeos, can I still approve though? or shall we wait for that fix? | 12:12 |
| tsdgeos | cimi: given that it's unusable and you can't test it i don't think you should approve it tbh | 12:13 |
| cimi | tsdgeos, ok, I tested without 1.3 with the previous silo... | 12:14 |
| cimi | I still have it on my phone | 12:14 |
| tsdgeos | yeah but that's techinically not what you're approving anymore :D | 12:17 |
| tsdgeos | i mean it would be quite weird for me to see something approved with such a glaring "bug" | 12:18 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, what's the name of the "gtk mir" package? couldn't find it. | 12:21 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, I've no idea yet | 12:24 |
| cimi | tsdgeos, yeah but we land when is ready, that was the point | 12:30 |
| tsdgeos | yeah don't know | 12:30 |
| tsdgeos | as you fele | 12:30 |
| cimi | if your branch is fine, and depends on another bug... | 12:30 |
| tsdgeos | feel | 12:30 |
| cimi | unless you will need to tweak sth else | 12:31 |
| tsdgeos | not in theroty | 12:31 |
| tsdgeos | theory | 12:31 |
| tsdgeos | food! | 12:31 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, but did you get to run gedit in a "unity8 mir" session? | 12:32 |
| mzanetti | no, never managed so far | 12:33 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, christownsend should be able to help | 12:33 |
| mzanetti | or perhaps the mir people would know too | 12:33 |
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| greyback_ | dandrader: gedit -- --desktop_file_hint=gedit works for me | 13:06 |
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| seb128 | dandrader, mzanetti, what do you call "gtk mir"? if you are talking about the gdk mir backend it's part of gtk+3.0 itself (libgtk-3-0) | 13:07 |
| mzanetti | seb128, yes, I think that's what we meant | 13:08 |
| dandrader | seb128, ok, great | 13:09 |
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| dandrader | mzanetti, could you please try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1515921 ? It's as simple as adding 'X-Ubuntu-Touch=true' to /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop so that gedit shows up in list of apps in the dash | 14:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1515921 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "2 mouse pointers when running gedit with gtk mir on Unity8" [Undecided,In progress] | 14:00 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, I couldn't reproduce the issue. still see only the qml cursor | 14:00 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, you can't repro? | 14:00 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, no | 14:00 |
| mzanetti | ok, will try | 14:00 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, I made sure I installed trunk version of qtmir and unity8 on my test laptop. but who knows... | 14:00 |
| tsdgeos | mterry: ping | 14:02 |
| mterry | tsdgeos, hi! | 14:02 |
| tsdgeos | mterry: you did some work to allow "having no text in the infographics" https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/handle-empty-infographic-label, right? We don't need to do anything if they revert the libusermetrics change, right? | 14:03 |
| mterry | tsdgeos, yeah my change was just being more permissive if the library gives us nothing back. If they revert, we should be fine | 14:04 |
| mterry | tsdgeos, design didn't like it being empty after all? | 14:04 |
| tsdgeos | mterry: seems so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1514326 | 14:04 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1514326 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "There is no text in the circle on lock screen in new flashed device" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:04 |
| mterry | I told them! :) | 14:04 |
| seb128 | that's ridiculous | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mpt, ^ did you see that? | 14:05 |
| mpt | no | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mpt, can you talk to Magdalena and agree on what should be done? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | it doesn't make much sense to make "no data source available" | 14:06 |
| mterry | Yeah, I don't like that string either. If we want to use a string, it could be nicer like "Welcome to Ubuntu" or something non-hostile | 14:07 |
| seb128 | or at least something that makes some sense to normal users | 14:12 |
| mpt | seb128, mterry, apart from this reported bug, are there any problems being caused by the empty text? | 14:12 |
| seb128 | like "no events recorded today" | 14:12 |
| seb128 | mpt, no | 14:12 |
| mterry | mpt, no | 14:12 |
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| mpt | seb128, ok, I checked with Ben and wontfixed it | 14:20 |
| seb128 | mpt, thanks! | 14:20 |
| seb128 | tsdgeos, ^ less work ;-) | 14:20 |
| tsdgeos | well it's weird since magdelna said exactly the reverse | 14:21 |
| tsdgeos | but oh well less work is good | 14:21 |
| mpt | tsdgeos, not her fault, she was misinformed | 14:22 |
| seb128 | Saviq, pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/camera-app/file-based-infographics/+merge/210573 / https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity-ui-infographics still a thing? | 14:25 |
| tsdgeos | seb128: Saviq's on holidays for like a week more | 14:30 |
| seb128 | tsdgeos, thanks, confusing those people who let IRC going with their normal nickname when they are not there ;-) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/camera-app/infographics-translations/+merge/250616 something you plan to follow up on? | 14:31 |
| pete-woods | seb128: to the first question. I'm not sure. it was something that was tasked by my old manager, and he's not here now | 14:38 |
| pete-woods | seb128: to the second thing, ideally yes | 14:38 |
| seb128 | pete-woods, the second one there is a merge request for the translation thing up, so maybe you should prod Kaleo for review ;-) | 14:39 |
| mterry | dandrader|afk, hey at some point if you could look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign/+merge/271342 in terms of the changes I made to the DDA, I'd appreciate it. That MP is not ready for a full review yet, but the DDA stuff likely won't change unless you want it to. It seems to work for me | 15:03 |
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| dandrader | mterry, ok | 15:24 |
| tsdgeos | oh my | 16:00 |
| tsdgeos | why i can't never run an unity8 desktop session :/ | 16:00 |
| tsdgeos | i'm always getting crashes or aborts or whatnot :/ | 16:00 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: ltinkl: do you guys use the distro packaging when running unity8 as a session? i'm getting an abort with a stack trace pointing to start_thread :S | 16:06 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, yes, I install unity8-desktop-session-mir and run that | 16:07 |
| mzanetti | then I modify QML files in place to test things | 16:07 |
| mzanetti | or rather, I use this script to install a working directory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13314241/ | 16:07 |
| tsdgeos | hmmm | 16:08 |
| tsdgeos | i have that package | 16:08 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, fwiw, I'm still on v+o | 16:08 |
| mzanetti | but I think lukas is on x | 16:08 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, anyhow, try reinstalling the unity8 package | 16:09 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, also make sure you don't have old mir libs around. I remember at some point I had problems because of that | 16:09 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, what graphics chip do you have? | 16:09 |
| tsdgeos | intel | 16:10 |
| mzanetti | hmm... same here. should work | 16:10 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: the bug you mention about the dash coming up empty, does it only happen in unity8 as a session or also happens on other desktop if you just do "start unity8-dash"? | 16:10 |
| tsdgeos | and/or start unity8 | 16:10 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: dandrader: i get graphical glitches on the cursor on my laptop when on the unity8 greeter, known? | 16:38 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: dandrader: here the photo http://i.imgur.com/jnHMNn2.jpg | 16:45 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, yeah, I have seem it once or twice before. but it's been a long while since it last happened. I think it happened with the fallback cursor only. do you have the DMZ cursor theme installed there? | 16:47 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, ^ | 16:48 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: maybe not, what's the package name? | 16:48 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, it was so hard to reproduce that I forgot about it | 16:48 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, dmz-cursor-theme | 16:48 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, you must have it as Unity 7 uses it | 16:49 |
| tsdgeos | yeah i do | 16:49 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: i can repro all the time | 16:49 |
| tsdgeos | also the mouse is like ultra slow inside the unity8 session compared to outside it | 16:50 |
| tsdgeos | is this something we control somehow? | 16:50 |
| mterry | mzanetti, guh, stupid admin password idea | 16:54 |
| mzanetti | mterry, indeed | 16:54 |
| mzanetti | mterry, well, I guess I'm ok with disconnecting the lockscreen from the user's passwort | 16:55 |
| mzanetti | mterry, but putting that in the welcome wizard seems quite odd | 16:55 |
| mterry | mzanetti, well I think that's a very advanced user feature yeah | 16:55 |
| mzanetti | yes, should be in the developer mode options | 16:55 |
| mterry | mzanetti, but mostly it seems crazy to keep allowing apps to brute force passwords. And if stop them from doing that, I don't see the need for this change | 16:56 |
| mzanetti | kgunn, do you know about that requirement and where it came from / how official it is? | 16:56 |
| mzanetti | apparently we have to add a username, lockscreen code and sudo password stuff into the welcome wizard | 16:56 |
| mzanetti | which seems wrong to me when thinking about regular joe | 16:57 |
| mterry | mzanetti, (they wanted the username?) | 16:57 |
| mzanetti | didn't she say? | 16:57 |
| mterry | mzanetti, I might have missed that | 16:57 |
| mterry | mzanetti, maybe need it for sure once they go multi-user, and she was thinking down that road, but I don't know if she said she wanted it now or then | 16:57 |
| mzanetti | mhm | 16:58 |
| mzanetti | mterry, otoh, on a Ubuntu Desktop we've been asking those things too since forever | 16:58 |
| * kgunn reads a little | 16:58 | |
| mzanetti | not saying that it's great on a phone, but thinking convergence... | 16:58 |
| mterry | kgunn, we were just told by Patricia that there is a new requirement that we ask users for an admin password | 16:59 |
| mterry | kgunn, in response to the "brute force" attack by apps on the password | 16:59 |
| kgunn | mzanetti: mterry ...yeah that's news to me | 16:59 |
| mterry | kgunn, but that seems like a very odd response to that attack | 17:00 |
| kgunn | mterry: probably best to see if jdstrand is pushing this | 17:00 |
| mterry | yah | 17:00 |
| kgunn | maybe convince him it's overkill ? | 17:00 |
| mterry | mzanetti, kgunn: moving to #ubuntu-touch | 17:01 |
| kgunn | altho..he's a sec guy...overkill is sort of the idea :) | 17:01 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, reboot and try again if you see the corruption? :-D | 17:06 |
| dandrader | the Windows(tm) way :) | 17:06 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: yeah did reboot like 3 or 4 times | 17:08 |
| tsdgeos | since i was trying to figure out why it crashes after inputting the password on the lock screen | 17:08 |
| tsdgeos | get it all the time | 17:08 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: any pointer on what may be wrong if i want to put some time on it? | 17:09 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, the only thing that can be going wrong is the logic that loads the xcursor image into a QImage | 17:11 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, in plugins/Cursor/CursorImageProvider.cpp | 17:11 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: oki, i'll see if i can repro tomorrow | 17:12 |
| tsdgeos | eod now | 17:13 |
| * tsdgeos waves | 17:13 | |
| dandrader | mterry, DDA changes in lp:~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign look fine | 17:14 |
| mterry | dandrader, awesome, thanks | 17:16 |
| mterry | will quote you in the MP :) | 17:16 |
| dandrader | mterry, only unsure about the property name. Because it will work all the same, only difference is that it won't claim ownership over the touch point once it recognizes it's performing a gesture | 17:17 |
| mterry | dandrader, yeah. I'm happy to rename it. Got something you like better? | 17:17 |
| dandrader | mterry, no :) | 17:20 |
| dandrader | mterry, btw SwipeArea just got merged into uitk staging branch | 17:23 |
| mterry | dandrader, that's the new name for DDA? cool | 17:23 |
| dandrader | mterry, yes | 17:23 |
| mterry | dandrader, so bad time to be futzing with DDA :) | 17:23 |
| dandrader | mterry, getting the same change into UITK might not be so easy :) | 17:24 |
| mterry | dandrader, well long term plan is to get the bottom edge part of the tutorial into the UITK and into apps themselves eventually | 17:25 |
| mterry | dandrader, so maybe we just carry DDA for a bit longer until that happens | 17:25 |
| dandrader | mterry, hmm, so why don't you work already on top of uitk's staging branch? | 17:25 |
| dandrader | mterry, or is there some other prerequisite missing for this change? | 17:26 |
| dandrader | (ie, having bottom edge tutorial into uitk) | 17:26 |
| mterry | dandrader, design isn't super ready for that portion yet, and they want to land the broader tutorial changes sooner rather than later | 17:27 |
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