=== attente_ is now known as attente === ssweeny` is now known as ssweeny === maclin1 is now known as maclin === maclin1 is now known as maclin === bpierre_ is now known as bpierre [08:37] cimi: note the new_dash thing breaks at some point because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1513897 [08:37] Ubuntu bug 1513897 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "TextField regression/behavior change in 1.3" [High,Confirmed] === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv [12:12] tsdgeos, can I still approve though? or shall we wait for that fix? [12:13] cimi: given that it's unusable and you can't test it i don't think you should approve it tbh [12:14] tsdgeos, ok, I tested without 1.3 with the previous silo... [12:14] I still have it on my phone [12:17] yeah but that's techinically not what you're approving anymore :D [12:18] i mean it would be quite weird for me to see something approved with such a glaring "bug" [12:21] mzanetti, what's the name of the "gtk mir" package? couldn't find it. [12:24] dandrader, I've no idea yet [12:30] tsdgeos, yeah but we land when is ready, that was the point [12:30] yeah don't know [12:30] as you fele [12:30] if your branch is fine, and depends on another bug... [12:30] feel [12:31] unless you will need to tweak sth else [12:31] not in theroty [12:31] theory [12:31] food! [12:32] mzanetti, but did you get to run gedit in a "unity8 mir" session? [12:33] no, never managed so far [12:33] dandrader, christownsend should be able to help [12:33] or perhaps the mir people would know too === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:06] dandrader: gedit -- --desktop_file_hint=gedit works for me === ssweeny` is now known as ssweeny [13:07] dandrader, mzanetti, what do you call "gtk mir"? if you are talking about the gdk mir backend it's part of gtk+3.0 itself (libgtk-3-0) [13:08] seb128, yes, I think that's what we meant [13:09] seb128, ok, great === Pici` is now known as Pici [14:00] mzanetti, could you please try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1515921 ? It's as simple as adding 'X-Ubuntu-Touch=true' to /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop so that gedit shows up in list of apps in the dash [14:00] Ubuntu bug 1515921 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "2 mouse pointers when running gedit with gtk mir on Unity8" [Undecided,In progress] [14:00] mzanetti, I couldn't reproduce the issue. still see only the qml cursor [14:00] dandrader, you can't repro? [14:00] mzanetti, no [14:00] ok, will try [14:00] mzanetti, I made sure I installed trunk version of qtmir and unity8 on my test laptop. but who knows... [14:02] mterry: ping [14:02] tsdgeos, hi! [14:03] mterry: you did some work to allow "having no text in the infographics" https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/handle-empty-infographic-label, right? We don't need to do anything if they revert the libusermetrics change, right? [14:04] tsdgeos, yeah my change was just being more permissive if the library gives us nothing back. If they revert, we should be fine [14:04] tsdgeos, design didn't like it being empty after all? [14:04] mterry: seems so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1514326 [14:04] Ubuntu bug 1514326 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "There is no text in the circle on lock screen in new flashed device" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:04] I told them! :) [14:04] that's ridiculous [14:05] mpt, ^ did you see that? [14:05] no [14:06] mpt, can you talk to Magdalena and agree on what should be done? [14:06] it doesn't make much sense to make "no data source available" [14:07] Yeah, I don't like that string either. If we want to use a string, it could be nicer like "Welcome to Ubuntu" or something non-hostile [14:12] or at least something that makes some sense to normal users [14:12] seb128, mterry, apart from this reported bug, are there any problems being caused by the empty text? [14:12] like "no events recorded today" [14:12] mpt, no [14:12] mpt, no === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:20] seb128, ok, I checked with Ben and wontfixed it [14:20] mpt, thanks! [14:20] tsdgeos, ^ less work ;-) [14:21] well it's weird since magdelna said exactly the reverse [14:21] but oh well less work is good [14:22] tsdgeos, not her fault, she was misinformed [14:25] Saviq, pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/camera-app/file-based-infographics/+merge/210573 / https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity-ui-infographics still a thing? [14:30] seb128: Saviq's on holidays for like a week more [14:30] tsdgeos, thanks, confusing those people who let IRC going with their normal nickname when they are not there ;-) [14:31] pete-woods, is https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/camera-app/infographics-translations/+merge/250616 something you plan to follow up on? [14:38] seb128: to the first question. I'm not sure. it was something that was tasked by my old manager, and he's not here now [14:38] seb128: to the second thing, ideally yes [14:39] pete-woods, the second one there is a merge request for the translation thing up, so maybe you should prod Kaleo for review ;-) [15:03] dandrader|afk, hey at some point if you could look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign/+merge/271342 in terms of the changes I made to the DDA, I'd appreciate it. That MP is not ready for a full review yet, but the DDA stuff likely won't change unless you want it to. It seems to work for me === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:24] mterry, ok [16:00] oh my [16:00] why i can't never run an unity8 desktop session :/ [16:00] i'm always getting crashes or aborts or whatnot :/ [16:06] mzanetti: ltinkl: do you guys use the distro packaging when running unity8 as a session? i'm getting an abort with a stack trace pointing to start_thread :S [16:07] tsdgeos, yes, I install unity8-desktop-session-mir and run that [16:07] then I modify QML files in place to test things [16:07] or rather, I use this script to install a working directory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13314241/ [16:08] hmmm [16:08] i have that package [16:08] tsdgeos, fwiw, I'm still on v+o [16:08] but I think lukas is on x [16:09] tsdgeos, anyhow, try reinstalling the unity8 package [16:09] tsdgeos, also make sure you don't have old mir libs around. I remember at some point I had problems because of that [16:09] tsdgeos, what graphics chip do you have? [16:10] intel [16:10] hmm... same here. should work [16:10] mzanetti: the bug you mention about the dash coming up empty, does it only happen in unity8 as a session or also happens on other desktop if you just do "start unity8-dash"? [16:10] and/or start unity8 [16:38] mzanetti: dandrader: i get graphical glitches on the cursor on my laptop when on the unity8 greeter, known? [16:45] mzanetti: dandrader: here the photo http://i.imgur.com/jnHMNn2.jpg [16:47] mzanetti, yeah, I have seem it once or twice before. but it's been a long while since it last happened. I think it happened with the fallback cursor only. do you have the DMZ cursor theme installed there? [16:48] tsdgeos, ^ [16:48] dandrader: maybe not, what's the package name? [16:48] tsdgeos, it was so hard to reproduce that I forgot about it [16:48] tsdgeos, dmz-cursor-theme [16:49] tsdgeos, you must have it as Unity 7 uses it [16:49] yeah i do [16:49] dandrader: i can repro all the time [16:50] also the mouse is like ultra slow inside the unity8 session compared to outside it [16:50] is this something we control somehow? [16:54] mzanetti, guh, stupid admin password idea [16:54] mterry, indeed [16:55] mterry, well, I guess I'm ok with disconnecting the lockscreen from the user's passwort [16:55] mterry, but putting that in the welcome wizard seems quite odd [16:55] mzanetti, well I think that's a very advanced user feature yeah [16:55] yes, should be in the developer mode options [16:56] mzanetti, but mostly it seems crazy to keep allowing apps to brute force passwords. And if stop them from doing that, I don't see the need for this change [16:56] kgunn, do you know about that requirement and where it came from / how official it is? [16:56] apparently we have to add a username, lockscreen code and sudo password stuff into the welcome wizard [16:57] which seems wrong to me when thinking about regular joe [16:57] mzanetti, (they wanted the username?) [16:57] didn't she say? [16:57] mzanetti, I might have missed that [16:57] mzanetti, maybe need it for sure once they go multi-user, and she was thinking down that road, but I don't know if she said she wanted it now or then [16:58] mhm [16:58] mterry, otoh, on a Ubuntu Desktop we've been asking those things too since forever [16:58] * kgunn reads a little [16:58] not saying that it's great on a phone, but thinking convergence... [16:59] kgunn, we were just told by Patricia that there is a new requirement that we ask users for an admin password [16:59] kgunn, in response to the "brute force" attack by apps on the password [16:59] mzanetti: mterry ...yeah that's news to me [17:00] kgunn, but that seems like a very odd response to that attack [17:00] mterry: probably best to see if jdstrand is pushing this [17:00] yah [17:00] maybe convince him it's overkill ? [17:01] mzanetti, kgunn: moving to #ubuntu-touch [17:01] altho..he's a sec guy...overkill is sort of the idea :) [17:06] tsdgeos, reboot and try again if you see the corruption? :-D [17:06] the Windows(tm) way :) [17:08] dandrader: yeah did reboot like 3 or 4 times [17:08] since i was trying to figure out why it crashes after inputting the password on the lock screen [17:08] get it all the time [17:09] dandrader: any pointer on what may be wrong if i want to put some time on it? [17:11] tsdgeos, the only thing that can be going wrong is the logic that loads the xcursor image into a QImage [17:11] tsdgeos, in plugins/Cursor/CursorImageProvider.cpp [17:12] dandrader: oki, i'll see if i can repro tomorrow [17:13] eod now [17:13] * tsdgeos waves [17:14] mterry, DDA changes in lp:~mterry/unity8/tutorial-redesign look fine [17:16] dandrader, awesome, thanks [17:16] will quote you in the MP :) [17:17] mterry, only unsure about the property name. Because it will work all the same, only difference is that it won't claim ownership over the touch point once it recognizes it's performing a gesture [17:17] dandrader, yeah. I'm happy to rename it. Got something you like better? [17:20] mterry, no :) [17:23] mterry, btw SwipeArea just got merged into uitk staging branch [17:23] dandrader, that's the new name for DDA? cool [17:23] mterry, yes [17:23] dandrader, so bad time to be futzing with DDA :) [17:24] mterry, getting the same change into UITK might not be so easy :) [17:25] dandrader, well long term plan is to get the bottom edge part of the tutorial into the UITK and into apps themselves eventually [17:25] dandrader, so maybe we just carry DDA for a bit longer until that happens [17:25] mterry, hmm, so why don't you work already on top of uitk's staging branch? [17:26] mterry, or is there some other prerequisite missing for this change? 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