[02:39] <valorie> \o/ webbies: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=kubuntu.org
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:28] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[13:31] <clivejo> should kdeconnect-plasma not be linked to an upstream project in LP - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma
[13:37] <clivejo> and as its part of the Kubuntu default install, should Kubuntu devs not be publishing it?
[13:37] <clivejo> Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers 
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo
[14:04] <yofel> clivejo: we've given up on changing that as most of us are members of the debian team anyway and we keep the VCS over there
[14:05] <yofel> clivejo: as for the upstream project: I guess nobody did the linking yet
[14:06] <clivejo> yofel: what is the upstream project for it?
[14:07] <clivejo> is it a LP project or the KDE project page (https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect)
[14:08] <yofel> I think you need a LP project for that. Maybe ask in #launchpad or #ubuntu-bugs
[14:08] <clivejo> would it not be part of the Kubuntu project in general?
[14:09] <yofel> there is no kubuntu project on LP. And I believe all our other links have seperate projects
[14:10] <clivejo> confusing
[14:10] <clivejo> I cant make head nor tail of LP
[14:11] <yofel> can't really help you as we've never cared about the upstream linking in the last ~4 years
[20:45] <clivejo> Albert Vaca just released a fixed tarball for kdeconnect-plasma named kdeconnect-kde-0.9f how does that transalte in debian packaging?
[20:46] <clivejo> The fix includes translations apparently
[21:28] <yofel> clivejo: 0.9f is a valid version
[21:28] <clivejo> but how did it jump from 0.9 to 0.9?
[21:29] <clivejo> surely 0.9.1 would be more senseable?
[21:30] <yofel> you'll have to ask upstream... Maybe they wanted to show that no code changed? We also append characters when we need to re-upload changed tarballs for kde packages
[21:32] <soee> Plasma 5.5 beta tomorrow :)
[21:51] <clivejo> yofel: the watch file can deal with letters in the version?
[21:52] <yofel> not necessarily, depends on the pattern
[21:57] <clivejo> stupid thing : uscan warning: In debian/watch no matching hrefs for version 0.9f in watch line
[22:10]  * clivejo gives up and goes to bed
[23:15] <mparillo> I grabbed https://trello.com/c/xX97OnJO/65-improve-the-kubuntu-wikipedia-page and it looks like the Wikipedia police accepted my minor edit. I am wondering if the next area for edits would be around Blue Systems. Do they directly sponsor anything soley for Kubuntu, or now is all their work upstream (KDE and Debian) and downstream (NetRunner LTS) from Kubuntu?
[23:18] <valorie> not sure about netrunner, but I would characterize BS support as indirect
[23:19] <valorie> I very much hope riddell, sitter and shadeslayer will continue to contribute, but we don't have any control of that
[23:19] <valorie> I'd love to see BS hire Scarlett though, for both Kubuntu and KDE
[23:20] <valorie> double win for us
[23:20] <wxl> YES DO IT DO IT VALORIE
[23:20] <wxl> :)
[23:20] <valorie> :-)
[23:20] <valorie> If I could afford it, I totally would!
[23:21] <wxl> i know
[23:21] <sgclark> so would I! oh wait...
[23:21] <wxl> man if only we could afford it, we'd have both great teams AND they'd get paid well :)
[23:21] <wxl> (we already have great teams)
[23:21] <valorie> how are you, walter?
[23:22] <wxl> great thanks val. and you?
[23:22] <valorie> pretty good
[23:22] <valorie> just got done raking leaves
[23:22] <wxl> oh yeah fall :/
[23:22] <wxl> how's the weather up there in rainy coldville?
[23:22] <sgclark> wxl: I have your shirt still wrapped in plastic lol. want me to mail it? or wait till scale not so far off?
[23:22] <valorie> our windstorm last night blew me right offline
[23:23] <sgclark> we had some lovely rain too!
[23:23] <sgclark> and wind
[23:23] <wxl> sgclark: yeah you can just wait. UNLESS you happen to have our ubuntu banner, in which case i'll pay you to mail both
[23:23] <valorie> we had buckets of rain, yeah
[23:23] <sgclark> I dont :(
[23:23] <wxl> valorie: wow that brings back the memories of the modem days, huh? :)
[23:23] <sgclark> how did south fair for rain?
[23:23] <valorie> actually, when I had a POTS modem, it didn't go offline
[23:23] <wxl> we've had mostly typical eugene rain. a never-ending hard drizzle
[23:24] <valorie> copper doesn't go down very often
[23:24] <sgclark> ahh, we got the buckets, though nothing like Seattle I expect
[23:24] <wxl> valorie: maybe you were blessed with good phone lines. ours were crap. so much static and crap on the line it would cause all sorts of problems
[23:24] <wxl> (this was when i was still in cleveland, and on the outskirts to boot)
[23:24] <sgclark> my internet has been crap :(
[23:24] <valorie> we're a bit over a mile from the switching station
[23:24] <wxl> sgclark: let me guess— comcast?
[23:24] <sgclark> yeah
[23:24] <sgclark> hate them
[23:24] <wxl> nuff sed
[23:25] <valorie> too far for DSL, so now we have cable
[23:25] <wxl> i used to defend them all the time
[23:25] <sgclark> nothing else in my neighborhood though
[23:25] <wxl> because they always treated me well
[23:25] <valorie> not sure if it was comcast, or my equipment
[23:25] <valorie> I worked offline no problem
[23:25] <wxl> but now they're entirely run by freaking morons who refuse to acknowledge any problem
[23:25] <wxl> although i'll admit our ethernet is pretty solid
[23:25] <wxl> but their routers are GARBAGE
[23:25] <valorie> that's what happens when there is no regulation, and no competition
[23:26] <valorie> monopoly-land
[23:26] <wxl> yes, i could get my own router, but then there's the whole issue about needing a modem for their phone service
[23:26] <valorie> high prices AND crappy service, why are you complaining?
[23:26] <wxl> hehehe
[23:26] <wxl> i know, i know
[23:26] <wxl> you can't get google fiber yet, sgclark ?
[23:26] <valorie> Murrica!
[23:27] <wxl> afaik there's ton of fiber run up and down the gorge to serve their farm in the dalles
[23:27] <wxl> valorie: please tell me you're going to scale/ubucon?
[23:27] <valorie> what's the dates again?
[23:27] <valorie> I've not made any plans
[23:27] <wxl> technically i haven't either but i'm hoping for it
[23:28] <valorie> but it wouldn't be too expensive I don't think
[23:28] <sgclark> wxl: I am not aware of fiber being available
[23:33] <wxl> sorry disappeared at work
[23:34] <wxl> valorie: ubuncon part is jan 21-22 https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/ubucon-held-scale-14x
[23:34] <valorie> woah
[23:34] <valorie> coming right up after the hols
[23:34] <wxl> sgclark: yeah i guess fiber isn't there yet but you can sign up https://fiber.google.com/newcities/
[23:34] <wxl> yeah i know
[23:35] <valorie> wxl: do we already have a ubuntu table space?
[23:35] <valorie> I have "a" ubuntu banner
[23:35] <valorie> printed thing we used last year as LFNW I think
[23:36] <wxl> we don't yet
[23:36] <wxl> haven't signed up
[23:36] <wxl> need to clear it with "the boss" first
[23:36] <valorie> hmmm
[23:36] <valorie> ok
[23:37] <wxl> anyways it's on my mind
[23:37] <wxl> and i'd love to see you both there
[23:37] <wxl> if not there's always lfnw
[23:38] <valorie> LFNW is a given for me
[23:38] <wxl> wonder if we could coerce the sf contingent to show up
[23:38] <valorie> to SCALE?
[23:38] <wxl> yeah
[23:38] <valorie> unknown
[23:43] <valorie> gads, it's rather expensive
[23:44] <valorie> I guess they don't have access to free facilities like LFNW does