[03:15] <dw__> noob says "howdy"
[03:17] <dw__> is this a format in which I might receieve tech assistance with downloading/installing Kubuntu?
[03:27] <valorie> pfff, ask and disappear
[06:06] <CirclePixel> Is there a way to run the application dashboard (http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/KDEMenu3-600x450.png) from terminal?
[06:07] <CirclePixel> I've been to my distro's channel, #kde, and all over google, can't find an answer of if it's possible or not.
[07:18] <Arthur_D> hi, I have an issue with KRunner in Kubuntu 14.04. I want to remove its transparency but I can't seem to find a way to control that
[07:19] <Arthur_D> I've found where I can control its blur, but not transparency - disabling the transparency effect in "Configure desktop effects" does nothing
[07:20] <basse> Arthur_D: i think it comes from the theme you are using
[07:20] <Arthur_D> the reason why I want to disable the transparency is that if there's a dark themed program, the krunner search results becomes nigh unreadable
[07:23] <Arthur_D> probably yes, but in Desktop theme -> Details, "Run command" it says "Air for netbooks" which is the theme I want to use for most stuff, but changing it in this specific instance to e.g. "Aya Run command" does not help either
[07:24] <Arthur_D> maybe both themes have similar transparency, but dunno where to check that or what to further investigate
[07:24] <hateball> Arthur_D: did you reload the session? perhaps it is needed
[07:24] <Arthur_D> didn't try that yet
[07:25] <hateball> or at least restarting krunner I guess
[07:25] <Arthur_D> yeah tried that unless it runs all the time in the background... hmm
[07:25] <hateball> It does
[07:27] <Arthur_D> just tried that, doesn't help - I'll try to log out and log in again, brb
[07:29] <Arthur_D> did not help, but as said maybe Aya has a similar transparency
[07:32] <Arthur_D> changing the whole theme to Aya did help though
[07:34] <CirclePixel> So anyone have an idea about launching the app dashboard as a terminal command
[07:34] <CirclePixel> or at least making some kinda shortcut for it?
[07:34] <CirclePixel> To be clear this is what I'm talking about: http://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/KDEMenu3-600x450.png
[07:37] <Arthur_D> found it
[07:37] <Arthur_D> it's under "Panel background"
[09:20] <aris_> hi room just intalled kubuntu 15.10 and after that the ppa kubuntu weekly stable in 15.04 worked great now after the first update from weekly stable i get this message about muon(sorry i m new to linux)error loading qml file file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.muonnotifier/contents/ui/main.qml:23:1 plugin cannot be loadedfor module org.kde.muonnotifier
[09:24] <hateball> aris_: could you try updating using apt-get and see if that solves the problem?
[09:24] <hateball> assuming you are used to updating using the gui
[09:31] <aris_> yes
[09:32] <amichair> do kde point releases still get backported nowadays? I used to see them about once a month, now I barely see them anymore. Is it just me?
[09:33] <aris_> i searched for the command and i found sudo apt-get update didnt solve the problem
[09:33] <hateball> aris_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove"
[09:34] <hateball> That should make sure you're fully updated, as well clean out old cruft like unused kernels
[09:34] <aris_> my friend all this in one command????
[09:35] <hateball> aris_: you can run them one by one, the && means the next command only happens if the one before ran OK
[09:35] <aris_> thanx
[09:36] <hateball> aris_: "update" checks what is new, "dist-upgrade" installs it, "autoremove" removes old stuff
[09:38] <aris_> yesterday night i did the update today i found the problem after sudo apt get update i get this W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net wily InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A12B6139432062D1
[09:38] <aris_> should i continue with the other commands
[09:39] <Yossarianuk> it means you are missing the gpg key for that PPA repo
[09:39] <lordievader> aris_: Add the key using 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <keyid>
[09:47] <aris_> the key is NO_PUBKEY A12B6139432062D1 only A12..... without no_pubkey
[10:03] <aris_> in a fresh install in muon where should i place gpg key for that PPA repo
[10:04] <aris_> and is kubuntu weekly stable ok as a repo
[10:07] <lordievader> aris_: Like I said 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A12B6139432062D1
[10:07] <lordievader> '
  thanx so far for the help the update finished ok but dist-upgrade says this
[10:18] <aris_> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[10:18] <aris_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:18] <aris_>  muon-updater : Depends: libmuon (= 4:5.4.2+git20151106.0036+15.10-0) but it is not installed
[10:18] <aris_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[10:23] <lordievader> What happens when you run that suggestion?
[10:25] <aris_> friend i m thinking i m not a power user maybe i can wait and do just sudo updates in one week maybe it should be ok and after that i remove the weekly stapble ppas
[10:25] <lordievader> The state will likely not change. Besides there is no need to be a power user, that is why we are here ;)
[10:26] <aris_> but i read in planet kde muon is unmaintained
[10:27] <aris_> so the command is apt-get -f install
[10:27] <Schalla> Good morning. After upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 (system upgrade, no reinstall) my login is really slow. So after the login the desktop loads slowly, and then my taskbar needs about 10-20 seconds to show up, any issues known regarding that issue?
[10:28] <Schalla> (Its a FX-8150 with a SSD, can confirm it was not the case with 15.04)
[10:28] <lordievader> aris_: Yes, does it error?
[10:28] <lordievader> aris_: If it does could you pastebin the output?
[10:30] <aris_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[10:30] <aris_>   muon-notifier muon-updater
[10:30] <aris_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
[10:30] <aris_> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[10:30] <aris_> After this operation, 276 kB disk space will be freed.
[10:30] <aris_> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[10:30] <Schalla> aris_: http://paste.kde.org
[10:30] <hateball> Schalla: there is a bug with plasma-nm that should be out soon, it is in backports now iirc
[10:31] <hateball> for the slow login
[10:31] <Schalla> hateball: Just saw it on reddit, I expected something blocking there yup
[10:31] <amichair> Schalla: yes, there was, with bluez looking for bluetooth (even if the pc doesn't have it) synchronously
[10:31] <Schalla> Is there a way to disable bluetooth instead?
[10:31] <aris_> https://paste.kde.org/pvlmpr77r
[10:31] <hateball> Schalla: It doesnt matter
[10:31] <amichair> Schalla: it was already backported, you'll need it from the ppa I think
[10:31] <lordievader> !paste | aris_
[10:32] <lordievader> aris_: Continue ;)
[10:33] <amichair> Schalla: bug #354230
[10:33] <amichair> Schalla: kde bug #354230
[10:34] <Schalla> Yeah just ran apt-get upgrade, got plasma-nm in the list
[10:34] <Schalla> Lets see if that fix it. :)
[10:34] <aris_> muon doesnt exist anymore should i run update again
[10:35] <Schalla> Thanks hateball and amichair
[10:35] <lordievader> aris_: What is the output of 'dpkg -l|grep muon'?
[10:36] <amichair> Schalla: I hope that fixes your issue :-)
[10:36] <Schalla> We will see, sounds exactly like the issue I was having, since it just happens once at boot time its not that bad. :)
 aris_: What is the output of 'dpkg -l|grep muon'? is that a command????
[10:38] <Schalla> Yes
[10:38] <lordievader> aris_: Yes, the bit between ''.
[10:39] <Schalla> It lists the package you got installed and filters  for muon
[10:39] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327263/
[10:40] <Schalla> https://paste.kde.org/p7jw0dq5h
[10:40] <lordievader> aris_: sudo apt-get install muon
[10:40] <Schalla> ^ those I got installed on a working 15.10
[10:41] <aris_> should i run an update again why not
[10:43] <lordievader> aris_: Sure, go ahead. But install the 'muon' package afterwards.
[10:43] <lordievader> Or not if you are fine with apt ;)
[10:47] <aris_> guys ci stable has a lot of stuff by the way the upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 was a disaster so i did a clean install in a new partition
[10:50] <aris_> finished but muon nowhere so i guess i have to google more and learn the terminal way
[10:51] <aris_> Thanx everyone for the help and the time. Its time for me to learn some commands
[10:51] <lordievader> aris_: Have you ran 'sudo apt-get install muon'?
[10:52] <aris_> dont know any commands friend thanx again i ll do it
[10:53] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327428/
[10:55] <aris_> anyone here uses weekly stable or only me hahahaha
[10:55] <lordievader> aris_: Interesting, what is the output of 'apt-cache policy muon muon-updater libmuon'?
[11:00] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327510/
[11:00] <AVIVA76Q761> hi
[11:09] <lordievader> aris_: What happens when you try to install libmuon?
[11:11] <aris_> install libmuon how i only know throu gui sorry
[11:14] <aris_> did it http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327681/
[11:14] <lordievader> aris_: Same way ;) 'sudo apt-get install libmuon'
[11:14] <lordievader> aris_: Ah, what is the output of 'apt-cache policy software-properties-kde'?
[11:15] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327716/
[11:17] <lordievader> Hmm, I suppose you can install that: sudo apt-get install software-properties-kde
[11:17] <aris_> lordievader you have great patience with all that hi 5 u rock
[11:18] <lordievader> aris_: Heh, thanks.
[11:18] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327764/
[11:18] <aris_> i thank you
[11:20] <aris_> as i understand weekly stable is not for me in 15.04 though it worked fine
[11:20] <lordievader> This is a deep rabbit hole... What is the output of 'apt-cache policy python3-pyqt5'?
[11:21] <lordievader> Any reason you specifically went with the ci instead of the backports ppa?
[11:22] <aris_> was reading the news and planet kde a simple user who wanted to see the progress only grave bugs could bother me I thought until today
[11:23] <lordievader> Hmm, I'd ppapurge the ci one and install the backports one if I were you.
[11:24] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327836/
[11:25] <Odur> Anybody knows when Framework 5.16 will be packaged?
[11:25] <lordievader> aris_: Is that package installable?
[11:26] <aris_> python3-pyqt5 sou mean???
[11:27] <lordievader> aris_: Yes.
[11:29] <aris_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13327901/
[11:31] <lordievader> aris_: As I figured. I suppose you see a trend in the command I gave you? You can follow the rabbit hole down to the end, you'll probably find something that depends on a package which should be in the ppa but isn't. Or you decide to purge the ci ppa and (optionally) install the backports ppa.
[11:32] <Odur> And same question about KDE Applications 15.08.3
[11:33] <aris_> lordievader plasma 5.4 was great in 15.04 i will wait some time to see if things get fixed with updates  but i have time i dont have the knowledge this situation wil help you find something missing or you are doing that for me
[11:33] <lordievader> Odur: The best answer I can give you is "whenever the packagers get round to it".
[11:34] <aris_> i want to help but it s bad to bother u so many hours sorry again
[11:35] <Odur> lordievader: Yeah, I thought so :) Just wondered because it has always been promptly done before, but now when Riddle has stepped down I'm seeing a slowdown
[11:36] <lordievader> aris_: To be honest I am not entirely willing to go down the rabbit hole any further. I guess, and this is just a theory, you have found a drawback of ci. It is a rather automatic process. Packages are published if they build. There is less checking on wether they are actually installable.
[11:36] <lordievader> As I said before, I'd switch to the backports ppa.
[11:36] <lordievader> Odur: Part of the fire is gone... :(
[11:37] <Odur> Yeah, I've noticed
[11:38] <yofel> ci-daily has an installability check, so that should work, the ci build archives are random build fragments
[11:39] <aris_> lordievader by waiting do i have a chance to see them fixed in a while a dont work on the pc so it s ok
[11:39] <lordievader> I stand corrected ;)
[11:39] <lordievader> aris_: Perhaps, I don't really know.
[11:40] <yofel> Odur: we're still catching up on several months of nobody doing management and our workflow is partially broken. Once that's fixed operations should get a bit faster again
[11:40] <lordievader> \o/
[11:41] <aris_> thanx anyway and try not to spend your time helping so much the newbies you are very very kind thanx for your time and effort
[11:42] <Odur> yofel: Good to hear! Good luck :)
[11:42] <lordievader> aris_: I like helping people ;)
[11:43] <aris_> dude u overdo it careful world is very selfish unfortunately
[11:44] <lordievader> aris_: Doesn't mean I should be ;)
[11:45] <aris_> have a nice day or night all
[11:54] <Odur> yofel: Oh, just noticed that KDE Applications are in Kubuntu-staging ppa. More testing needed?
[12:20] <yofel> Odur: testing feedback to sgclark in -devel would be nice, yes. The packages are marked as testing at least.
[12:29] <Karvers> Necesito ayuda en español con Kubuntu 15.10
[12:29] <Karvers> Por favor es a causa de un Crash en el inicio
[12:29] <hateball> !es | Karvers
[12:30] <Karvers> gracias :D
[12:30] <hateball> :)
[12:34] <Karvers> Nadie responde en ese canal T_T
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:21] <Smurphy> Howdy BluesKaj  :)
[13:45] <jutta> hi there :)
[13:46] <jutta> how to check, if my sensors are healthy, please ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hey Smurphy, what's up today?
[13:49] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Not much. Managed to fix a nasty bug in Owncloud... (Well, found a workaround) that cause my NAS to have an average load of 1 ...
[13:49] <Smurphy> Owncloud is broken ... *sigh*
[13:49] <Smurphy> but it's the best we got if we don't want to use Google/Microsoft/Apple cloud...
[13:51] <BluesKaj> well, I keep media on an outboard drive, but my needs are simple, no need for a cloud server
[13:53] <Smurphy> well - got 3 girls and a wife, and we need to keep our calendars and contacts in sync. And - as the girls tend to play a lot around with their phones - they break things quite often.,
[13:53] <Smurphy> Best is to have the data on the cloud by then ;)
[13:53] <BluesKaj> I use dropbox to share files with family which is very rare these days
[13:56] <BluesKaj> my kids are all grown and gone living busy lives , a son and 3 daughters
[13:57] <Smurphy> heh. Big family :) I only share stuff via mail + pgp with my family.
[13:58] <Smurphy> PGP because some keep their stuff on Google or so, and when it is pgp encrypted, even they can't look into it.
[13:58] <Smurphy> *EvilGrinning*
[14:01] <jubo2> Got a full / partition
[14:01] <BluesKaj> we exchange pictures mostly and usually email is sufficient for that
[14:01] <jubo2> what was that 'sudo apt command' to remove the unnecessary files ( there are lot of kernel images and headers no longer used ?
[14:02] <jubo2> sudo apt autoremove ?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> jubo2, sudo apr-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[14:02] <jubo2> BluesKaj: apr-get ?
[14:02] <jubo2> typo
[14:02] <jubo2> ok. I run
[14:02] <BluesKaj> ok , typo
[14:03] <jubo2> only 500MB
[14:03] <jubo2> there's gotta be something in /tmp or thereabouts
[14:03] <BluesKaj> your / fills up due to old files hanging around after package updates and upgrades
[14:04] <jubo2> I made / 20GB
[14:04] <BluesKaj> how large is your / partition?
[14:04] <jubo2> I belive the dynamic duo of #kubuntu suggested 15GB would be adequate
[14:04] <hateball> Depending on what you install that might be small. But it should be sufficient for most
[14:05] <BluesKaj> 20G should be plenty unless you have game packages and wine etc
[14:05] <jubo2> BluesKaj: 'df' shows 0% free still
[14:06] <clivejo> Smurphy:  Kolab lets you share email, calendars, to-do, notes, files etc.  You can self host or subscribe to KolabNow
[14:06] <jubo2> comparing the 1K-blocks and the Used I can see there is ~1GB free there but it just ain't manifesting
[14:06] <jubo2> available 0
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ju well then you obviously have a lot of apps installed
[14:07] <BluesKaj> jubo2,^
[14:08] <Yossarianuk> Smurphy: I wonder how long till governments try to outlaw PGP ....
[14:08] <jubo2> I reboot
[14:09] <jubo2> or should I 'sudo rm -rf *' in /tmp
[14:09] <jubo2> hold on.. /tmp is cleaned upon shutdown isn't it ?
[14:09] <hateball> that's unwise
[14:09] <hateball> yes
[14:09] <BluesKaj>  15G  6.2G  8.1G  44% / here, but I get rid of stuff I don't want and need
[14:09] <jubo2> I reboot?
[14:09] <hateball> isnt /tmp located on ramdisk by default these days?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> only if you move it to a ramdisk
[14:10] <Smurphy> clivejo: I have installed Kolab in the past, and it was a pain to setup and use. And there is much I was not allowed to do (Securing down etc.).
[14:11] <jubo2> or will I just be looking at an unbootable system due to "no space left on device" ?
[14:11] <Smurphy> Reason I have my own implementation of Mail-Server with admin/user UI, Web-Server/Application - and that's it.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> jubo2, what kind of apps do you have installed that take up so much room?
[14:12] <jubo2> hmm..
[14:12] <jubo2> Prlly Kmail now that I think of it
[14:12] <hateball> jubo2: it will boot, root has 5% reserved so the system can survive
[14:12] <hateball> unless you changed it, that is
[14:12] <jubo2> where does it store the thousands of emails I've got
[14:12] <hateball> jubo2: In ~/home somewhere
[14:13] <jubo2> I reboot now
[14:13] <hateball> err, ~/ ;d
[14:13] <jubo2> Got the netbook operational too
[14:13] <jubo2> lovely Kubuntu15.10 64-bit
[14:13] <jubo2> just in case one machine is borked it is good to have more then one computer
[14:13] <jubo2> seeya
[14:14] <hateball> hmmm, I could swear ubuntu moved to /tmp on tmpfs with zram... but I may have been dreaming. I will have to check what I have when I get home
[14:15] <Smurphy> :}
[14:19] <jubo2> /dev/sda8       19645308   9772296   8852036  53% /
[14:19] <jubo2> wheew
[16:32] <nufc179> NEED HELP
[16:34] <nufc179> all the text has gone small after install of nvidia driver on 14.04 have tryed all driver but all the same when i try to change the res nvidia box comes up say somthing like cannot change ect text 2 small 2 read
[16:34] <marco-parillo> Could you describe your problem?
[16:41] <nufc179> its the first prob i have hade with this all other liunx OS i have hade no prob with the res after i have installed the nivdia drivers should i just try the new 15.10
[16:44] <BluesKaj>  nufc179 your resolution has increased , just reset your font sizes in system settings>fonts
[16:46] <nufc179> thanks BluesKaj will give that a try if i can see what am doing
[17:20] <t3chguy> Hey guys, since this morning my kubuntu laptop doesn't show anything on the display while in kubuntu. I'm still able to ctrl+alt+1 and run commands after logging in. Any idea? External display also doesn't work and the laptop's own display shows the laptop logo while booting then nothing but backlight
[17:24] <BluesKaj> t3chguy, have updated and upgraded with apt in the VT/TTY ?
[17:25] <t3chguy> I tried, though I cannot be sure that it actually updated anything
[17:25] <t3chguy> Is it possible to update packages from a liveusb?
[17:26] <t3chguy> I had muon updater update everything last night
[17:30] <Sunny_> could you please tell me how to install all necessary codecs via terminal
[17:30] <Sunny_> ??
[17:30] <Sunny_> and which media player is best for kubuntu 15.10
[17:30] <Sunny_> ??
[17:38] <AppAraat> Sunny_: in terms of media players I always went with VLC
[17:41] <Sunny_> thank you "AppAraat"
[17:56]  * sudhirkhanger is thinking about installing backports in 14.04. Hope it's stable.
[20:10] <Korbak> Bonjour
[20:10] <Korbak> J'ai un clavier qui fait nawak
[20:10] <soee> !fr
[20:10] <Korbak> Quelque touche ne fonctionnent pa
[20:10] <heinkel_111> !fr
[20:10] <Korbak> Ok ryt
[20:11] <heinkel_111> bonjour Korbak
[20:11] <Korbak> Bonjour heinkel_111
[20:11] <heinkel_111> on n'entend pas le Francais ici
[20:11] <Korbak> Vu
[20:11] <Korbak> Je go FR :)
[20:14] <Smurphy> ah bon ? Je parles francais pourtant :)
[20:15] <Smurphy> s/s//g
[20:50] <jubo2> Heyas
[20:50] <soee> hiho
[20:50] <jubo2> I gonna install Kubuntu15.10 alongside OS X on mi mum's MacBook Pro
[20:50] <jubo2> no hurdles right?
[20:51] <jubo2> The mac disks are shrinkable like NTFS is?
[20:52] <jubo2> and I don't need any stupid AAPL bootloader but can just write the GRUB on /dev/sda right?
[21:03] <amundsen> hi
[21:04] <amundsen> does anybody know if snappy will be the default app installer in 16.04?
[21:07] <mparillo> amundsen: I am unaware of any plans by the Kubuntu team to package KDE apps for snappy. If the Ubuntu infrastructure makes it happen automagically, then maybe.
[22:30] <Leonardo_> hi!
[22:33] <bprompt> allo
[22:33] <Leonardo_> hi, anyone speak portuguese?
[22:33] <bprompt> !pt | Leonardo_
[22:35] <Leonardo_> anyone knows how install amd drivers on kubunt
[22:35] <Leonardo_> ?
[22:36] <bprompt> Leonardo_:     hmmm, depends on what form the installation is in I assume
[22:37] <Leonardo_> --buildpkg Ubuntu/wily
[22:37] <bprompt> Leonardo_:    but usually, in kubuntu, you can just run --> jockey-kde <-- to check for drivers
[22:40] <Leonardo_> Cmd not found
[22:41] <valorie> jockey is gone, I believe
[22:41] <valorie> we have a driver manager now
[22:41] <Leonardo_> i have adtional drivers to install but i dont know what happens when instal it. the screen crashs afters restart
[22:42] <Leonardo_> after that i need to rm xorg and purge fglrx
[22:42] <valorie> !
[22:42] <valorie> seems extreme
[22:42] <valorie> in krunner, just type driver and the kcm will be your first choice
[22:43] <valorie> this should all be automatic
[22:43] <valorie> !krunner
[22:43] <valorie> pfff
[22:43] <valorie> alt+f2 or more lately, alt+space
[22:43] <valorie> and type driver
[22:43] <bprompt> valorie:    well then, I'll just have to make a symlink to the driver manager called "jockey-kde" then =)
[22:44] <valorie> heh
[22:44] <valorie> jockey was showing its age
[22:45] <valorie> also, in the commandline, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a` might help
[22:45] <valorie> possibly something didn't finish configuring
[22:47] <VeryBewitching> I'm having a strange issue with KTorrent, I logged a bug on Launchpad about it, but has anyone else experienced KTorrent going into prolonged 'disk sleep' CPU state that causes the UI to become unresponsive?  On 15.10
[22:47] <VeryBewitching> Not the whole desktop, just KTorrent itself becomes unresponsive.
[22:48] <valorie> interesting
[22:48] <valorie> I use it all the time to seed all the *buntu ISOs
[22:48] <valorie> no problems here
[22:48] <VeryBewitching> valorie: I seed Kubuntu ISO too
[22:48] <valorie> and that's 87 seeds....
[22:48] <valorie> cool
[22:49] <VeryBewitching> I've had 0 problems with 15.10 so far besides this one.
[22:49] <VeryBewitching> I'm getting ready to wipe out the ktorrent configuration to see if that fixes it.
[22:49] <valorie> I figure there aren't many seeds for some of the rare ISOs so why not take a few mins to set those up
[22:49] <valorie> I have nice bandwidth for it
[22:50] <VeryBewitching> valorie: Ya, I'm on unlimited bandwidth, 100Mbps
[22:50] <valorie> sec