lpotter | oh QNAM, silly QNAM | 01:40 |
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RMJ | Anyone know if OTA8 will be released today? | 02:56 |
OerHeks | November 18, 2015 is all i know | 03:01 |
RMJ | Yeah that's what I saw, dunno if it got the final yes/no. It will be later today when they wake up if so I guess | 03:02 |
OerHeks | http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-is-planned-for-release-on-november-18-2015-494501.shtml | 03:02 |
RMJ | Got my Nexus 4, bluetooth mouse and external monitor ready...... | 03:02 |
ulala | hello, does anyone know if wifi tether is planned for mako? I can't find anything in bug tracker here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools | 04:22 |
RMJ | I think tethering was added a while ago but I've never tried it | 04:35 |
RMJ | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-for-Phones-Now-Supports-USB-Tethering-454650.shtml | 04:35 |
ulala | RMJ: it was added in general, but apparently not on mako | 04:48 |
RMJ | oh ok, sry | 04:48 |
ulala | someone told me it's blacklisted on mako because it wasn't working | 04:49 |
blesson | wifi not detecting in ubuntu 14.04 | 05:32 |
blesson | realtek rtl8723be adapter... | 05:32 |
blesson | any help? | 05:32 |
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Tm_T | installing yet another Ubuntu update on Meizu (: | 06:47 |
RMJ | Ooo ota 8?? | 06:48 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:32 |
OerHeks | morning Daniel, some are already waiting for OTA-8 :-D | 07:54 |
zzarr | OerHeks, I am ;) | 07:58 |
zzarr | when will it be released? (or is it already?) | 08:04 |
robin-hero | Hey all! Something is weird with the latest rc (not rc-proposed) channel. The image doesn't contain the latest translations, for example Unity8 uses translations which were translated before OTA-7... | 08:09 |
seb128 | robin-hero, do you have an example? | 08:10 |
seb128 | and what's the difference rc/rc-proposed? | 08:10 |
robin-hero | seb128: Yes, In the power menu (restart, power off) the Power label translated to "Főkapcsoló" before OTA-7, and it is "Menü" since OTA-7. But now it is again "Főkapcsoló" | 08:11 |
robin-hero | seb128: rc-propsed is for development, rc is for OTA-testing | 08:12 |
seb128 | robin-hero, what locale? | 08:12 |
robin-hero | Oh, sorry, It's Hungarian | 08:12 |
seb128 | indeed | 08:17 |
seb128 | pitti might know | 08:17 |
seb128 | pitti, how are current touch overlay langpack generated? | 08:17 |
seb128 | https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/5691260/+listing-archive-extra has | 08:17 |
seb128 | msgctxt "Title: Power off/Restart dialog" | 08:17 |
seb128 | msgid "Power" | 08:17 |
seb128 | -msgstr "Menü" | 08:17 |
seb128 | +msgstr "Főkapcsoló" | 08:17 |
seb128 | but | 08:17 |
seb128 | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/hu/32/+translate | 08:18 |
seb128 | -"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-04 10:31+0000\n" | 08:18 |
seb128 | +"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-06-15 13:46+0000\n" | 08:19 |
seb128 | it's like it's using an old export? | 08:19 |
seb128 | same for french | 08:19 |
seb128 | robin-hero, can you open a bug about that on https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug ? | 08:19 |
pitti | seb128: we use the exports on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+language-packs and overlay that on current vivid export; with a weekly cronjob; not much magic beyond that | 08:21 |
seb128 | pitti, any clue why the unity8 template has that export date 2015-11-04 -> 2015-06-15 in the most recent update? | 08:22 |
seb128 | that doesn't make any sense to me | 08:22 |
pitti | (give me a minute) | 08:22 |
seb128 | sure | 08:22 |
seb128 | -de has the same | 08:23 |
seb128 | -"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-11-04 10:31+0000\n" | 08:23 |
seb128 | -"X-Generator: Launchpad (build 17838)\n" | 08:23 |
seb128 | +"X-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2015-06-15 13:46+0000\n" | 08:23 |
seb128 | +"X-Generator: Launchpad (build 17557)\n" | 08:23 |
robin-hero | pitti: Any info? Am I need to fill a bug? | 08:36 |
pitti | sorry, haven't looked yet, will soon | 08:36 |
pitti | it would be useful to check the latest exports on //translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+language-packs if they have the correct strings | 08:36 |
RMJ | Anyone any idea when/if OTA 8 is released? | 08:36 |
pitti | seb128: oh, you already checked translations.l.n then? if it's wrong there, it'll be wrong in the export too | 08:41 |
robin-hero | pitti: I've just checked the latest export, and it has the correct translations.... weird | 08:41 |
robin-hero | RMJ: in the next 1-3 days | 08:41 |
pitti | what is rosetta-15.04/de/LC_MESSAGES/unity89280.po ? | 08:42 |
pitti | that looks like an utterly broken name for unity8? | 08:42 |
pitti | robin-hero: I doubt it -- rosetta-15.04/hu/LC_MESSAGES/unity89280.po has | 08:43 |
pitti | msgid "Power" | 08:43 |
pitti | msgstr "Menü" | 08:43 |
pitti | which looks broken | 08:43 |
pitti | that's "menu" in German, almost certainly not Hungarian | 08:43 |
pitti | so the names, dates, translations, and po files are garbled apparently | 08:44 |
pitti | domains, I mean ("unity89280") | 08:44 |
RMJ | Thx, HDMI, bluetooth mouse at the ready :) | 08:44 |
pitti | robin-hero: is "https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/hu/32/+translate" *really* correct, can you check pleae? | 08:45 |
robin-hero | pitti: Yes, Menü is correct, because we don't have a word for "Power" in this situation | 08:46 |
pitti | seb128: so I guesss the problem is that the current export doesn't have unity8.po any more, but unity89280.po? | 08:52 |
seb128 | pitti, yeah, that seems likely | 08:56 |
seb128 | but why the weird domain? | 08:56 |
seb128 | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/unity8/+pots/unity8/+admin | 08:57 |
seb128 | hum | 08:57 |
seb128 | somebody changed that? | 08:57 |
seb128 | I guess we don't have a record/log of those changes? | 08:57 |
pitti | maybe wgrant can see it in the DB | 08:58 |
seb128 | let's ask on #launchpad? | 08:59 |
seb128 | asked | 09:00 |
seb128 | robin-hero, did you file a bug? | 09:00 |
robin-hero | seb128: not yet | 09:01 |
seb128 | pitti, waiting for a reply, but I guess we just need to fix the domain and wait for another export | 09:05 |
seb128 | pitti, thanks for helping to debug | 09:05 |
pitti | *nod*; so the remaining mystery is how the name got broken | 09:06 |
pitti | seb128: I changed it back to "unity8" on /+admin, thanks for pointing out that page | 09:08 |
seb128 | pitti, k, I was waiting on #launchpad pong to do that, but I guess the state didn't matter much, they either have a record of changes or not | 09:09 |
seb128 | dpm, ^ do you know if somebody changed the unity8 domain and why? | 09:10 |
pitti | seb128: right, I was doing it now as today we'll get another export, and I don't want that broken too | 09:10 |
pitti | (I think it should start soonish) | 09:10 |
seb128 | right | 09:10 |
seb128 | how come that we got a unity8.po btw? | 09:10 |
pitti | actually, I think it was already too late | 09:10 |
seb128 | I would have expected that a domain change would have resulted in unity8.po to be dropped | 09:11 |
seb128 | and a new unity8....pot to be added | 09:11 |
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jgdx | seb128, are you guys in desktop seeing more chromium-browser crashes after 15.10? | 09:33 |
seb128 | jgdx, not that I know, willcooke mentioned some though | 09:33 |
seb128 | do you? | 09:33 |
seb128 | I'm also using firefox | 09:34 |
seb128 | so I can't really speak from experience there | 09:34 |
willcooke | I expect this related to the overlay-scrollbar issue from yesterday | 09:34 |
seb128 | I doubt it | 09:34 |
seb128 | that's 15.10 | 09:35 |
seb128 | and the o-s would prevent it to start at all | 09:35 |
seb128 | which is different from more crashes | 09:35 |
willcooke | oh, sorry missed that | 09:35 |
willcooke | I'm running the staging version of Cr. Had a few niggles, but not crashes | 09:36 |
jgdx | okay, thanks seb128, willcooke. | 09:38 |
jgdx | A friend is seeing crashes, but he's running mate, so could be related. I'll ask him to file a bug. | 09:39 |
seb128 | jgdx, yeah, it's best | 09:40 |
seb128 | difficult to say without detials | 09:40 |
seb128 | but not a known issue as far as I can tell | 09:40 |
jgdx | seb128, cool. Yeah, I don't see any crashes either. | 09:41 |
tvoss | mardy, if you wouldn't mind: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/robustify-event-propagation-in-case-of-multiple-providers-running/+merge/277789 | 09:42 |
mardy | looking | 09:42 |
mardy | tvoss: is the change in debian/source/format intentional? (I have separate MP for that) | 09:44 |
tvoss | mardy, nope, let me revert htat :) | 09:45 |
lotuspsychje | anyone received OTA8 yet? | 09:57 |
RMJ | not yet, well I haven't checked for at least 5min.... ;) | 09:57 |
lotuspsychje | RMJ: ok tnx mate | 09:58 |
dpm | seb128, no, sorry, I didn't change it and I don't know of anyone that whould have changed it. Unfortunately, this is not a change we can track :/ | 09:58 |
tvoss | mardy, fixed | 10:00 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Education Support Professionals Day! 😃 | 10:04 |
garro | hi | 10:10 |
garro | is there someone to help me? | 10:10 |
peat-psuwit | garro: just say what's the problem, and if someone can help you he/she will. | 10:12 |
mardy | tvoss: approved, but with a big reserve :-) | 10:13 |
tvoss | mardy, noted | 10:14 |
tvoss | mardy note that this applies to out of process-providers, too | 10:14 |
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mardy | tvoss: yes, but then why do we need threads? | 10:15 |
tvoss | mardy, not sure what you mean | 10:15 |
mardy | tvoss: well, this MP uses threading, which I suppose would not be useful when dealing with OOP providers | 10:16 |
garro | Ok. I was flashing Ubuntu-touch on my nexus 4 when a message appeared saying that a problem occurred and the phone should be restored by a PC or a center. Now I reboted and I'm trying again... | 10:17 |
tvoss | mardy, hmmm, so I don't think those two domains are connected in my mind :) also: the mp actually removes a lot of the threading | 10:18 |
tvoss | mardy, the only threaded thing is an executor pool that gets consolidated | 10:18 |
* mardy looks twice | 10:18 | |
peat-psuwit | garro: try rebooting to recovery and run ubuntu-device-flash again | 10:19 |
mardy | tvoss: right, I didn't pay too much attention to the removed code | 10:20 |
peat-psuwit | barry: What's going on with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1463136 | 10:23 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1463136 in Ubuntu system image "Update archive-master.tar.xz file location to match si client 3.0" [High,In progress] | 10:23 |
garro | now it says: "Root access possibly lost. Fix?" | 10:24 |
peat-psuwit | garro: says no. It's left-over things from Android and I don't know how it'll effects Ubuntu touch. | 10:25 |
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garro | ok | 10:26 |
garro | now it's booting in ubuntu | 10:26 |
garro | is it normal that the current version is still 15.04 and not 15.10? | 10:29 |
peat-psuwit | garro: That's correct. Ubuntu touch stable channel is currently based on 15.04 | 10:30 |
garro | ok | 10:30 |
garro | thanks for al | 10:30 |
garro | *all | 10:30 |
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jaywink | hey everyone. Moved my Bq 4.5 to write mode (yes I know the risks, nuclear meltdown, etc ;)), and I gathered from the docs that OTA does not work after that. But I get OTA's (rc-proposed) still for Ubuntu system part. Applied one and so far it didn't overwrite any manually installed packages. Is it risky to apply OTA's in write mode? | 11:52 |
jaywink | and will I always get the same stuff with apt-getting? | 11:52 |
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tvoss | seb128, ping | 12:26 |
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tvoss | seb128, ping | 13:05 |
tvoss | seb128, if you find a minute: mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657 a spin? fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1504022 | 13:06 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1504022 in trust-store "Displays the hook name rather than the .desktop Name" [High,In progress] | 13:06 |
seb128 | tvoss, hey, sure I can have a look | 13:09 |
tvoss | seb128, thx | 13:10 |
jgdx | faenil, ping | 13:11 |
Crrs | hi, i have a nexus4 at rc-proposed r293. Is it normal, that i don't have hotspot functionality? It Diappeared a while ago :( | 13:22 |
faenil | jgdx: pong, in a meeting, leave msg I'll get back to you asap | 13:40 |
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jgdx | Crrs, yeah, it doesn't work like it should. See bug 1434591 | 13:40 |
ubot5 | bug 1434591 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[mako] Cannot connect to a secure, shared "ap" hotspot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434591 | 13:40 |
jgdx | faenil, I need some time to help debug a ListItemLayout height issue when using a loader to load it. Thanks! | 13:40 |
jibel | Crrs, hotspot support has been removed from flo and mako 2 months ago, cf bug 1487157 for reference | 13:41 |
ubot5 | bug 1487157 in Canonical System Image "mako and flo should have hotspot disabled" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1487157 | 13:41 |
Crrs | Ah, ok. I was wondering because all of a sudden it is no longer offered in system settings. Thanks for your help :) | 13:42 |
jgdx | Crrs, you can get it back using a simple command on the phone, if you're interested. | 13:42 |
jgdx | that enables you to create an insecure hotspot, which is less likely to cause the wpa_supp bug. | 13:44 |
boichev | Hello, I have added a new disk in ceph but the remmaping process stuck on the last 3.518% It says on this for the last 7 hours ...... Here is a pastebin with most of the debugging data I can think of .....http://pastebin.com/6GJj5gGd | 13:44 |
boichev | ops wrong channel | 13:45 |
Crrs | jgdx, thanks. I dont need hotspot right now, i can wait. I thougt the missing hotspot is a bug, i didnt know that it was removed on purpose. | 13:48 |
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jgdx | faenil, unping | 14:03 |
faenil | jgdx: fixed it? :) | 14:04 |
mardy | tvoss: I see that there's a geoclue provider; are we using it on the phone? | 14:07 |
tvoss | mardy, nope, and it's actually pointless by now :) we can safely remove it | 14:07 |
mardy | tvoss: I was thinking that it would be nice to have a geoIP-based provider, do you think I could spend some time on it? | 14:10 |
jgdx | faenil, yeah, I think so. There was an assumption that the loaded listitem would have a size even though it was set to visible: false. | 14:10 |
tvoss | mardy, sure, I would rather like to have it local, though. We can discuss a little later, on a hangout right now | 14:11 |
jgdx | faenil, (listitem was using listitemlayout) | 14:11 |
mardy | tvoss: OK | 14:12 |
faenil | jgdx: do you have that code online? I'd like to doublecheck I'm doing the right | 14:16 |
faenil | thing | 14:16 |
jgdx | faenil, let me try to repro with a mcve | 14:17 |
faenil | jgdx: thanks | 14:17 |
mterry | slangasek, your fix for bug 1512323 is in the latest devel-proposed images, but mine still doesn't boot. Is that expected because some of the other alignment issues from that bug are still in the source? | 14:20 |
ubot5 | bug 1512323 in android (Ubuntu) "devices on devel-proposed/ubuntu do not boot with systemd 227-2ubuntu1" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512323 | 14:20 |
jibel | mterry, this bug is fixed, now you must blame lxc | 14:22 |
jibel | mterry, the android container doesn't start | 14:22 |
mterry | jibel, ah. Didn't know there was another culprit :-P | 14:23 |
jibel | mterry, bug 1516971 | 14:23 |
ubot5 | bug 1516971 in lxc (Ubuntu Xenial) "devel-proposed mako 350 - android lxc container fails to start" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516971 | 14:23 |
mterry | jibel, thanks | 14:25 |
seb128 | tvoss, tested 047, I get correct app names translated (e.g "appareil photo" for the camera), good work! | 14:26 |
tvoss | seb128, ack andthx | 14:26 |
seb128 | tvoss, btw while you are at doing tweaks to the dialog https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1382610 would be trivial to fix, I can do a mp if you like | 14:29 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1382610 in trust-store "Buttons order is wrong" [Undecided,New] | 14:29 |
awe | Mirv, if I add logging statements to the networkmanager bearer plugin, where would I find the actual log output on the device ( ie. the logging output from unity8 )? | 14:33 |
jgdx | faenil, not very minimal http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13330521/ | 14:37 |
Mirv | awe: I don't know really, tsdgeos probably knows. if you mean Qt's own output, unity8's would be in .cache/upstart | 14:38 |
awe | yes | 14:38 |
awe | that's what I meant | 14:38 |
jgdx | faenil, thing is, I'm not sure why the visible: height > 0 is there. Once that's gone, it works as expected. | 14:38 |
awe | Mirv, perfect, just what I was looking for, and I can see my debug output now. Just need to figure out why the code's not doing the right thing | 14:39 |
awe | ;D | 14:39 |
faenil | jgdx: let me try | 14:41 |
jgdx | faenil, the parent checks doesn't matter here, it's just silencing warnings you get from changing the model like that | 14:42 |
faenil | jgdx: so, what is the problem in the code you pasted? | 14:43 |
faenil | what is the expected and actual behaviour? | 14:43 |
jgdx | faenil, when you add items, they are overlapping | 14:43 |
jgdx | faenil, expected them to not overlap | 14:43 |
faenil | jgdx: ok, right. I'm having a look | 14:44 |
peat-psuwit | barry: How is this bug going on? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1463136 | 14:48 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1463136 in Ubuntu system image "Update archive-master.tar.xz file location to match si client 3.0" [High,In progress] | 14:48 |
jgdx | seb128, hey, what do you think of https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1517488/+merge/277833 ? | 14:48 |
barry | peat-psuwit: stalled unfortunately. :( | 14:49 |
seb128 | jgdx, that a binary name is not a path ;-) | 14:49 |
jgdx | seb128, ah, right :p | 14:49 |
seb128 | :-) | 14:50 |
seb128 | unsure why we had the full path, but I'm fine changing it if it works | 14:50 |
seb128 | what are others doing? | 14:50 |
peat-psuwit | barry: Is there anything I can do? I just want to host my own system-image server. | 14:52 |
jgdx | seb128, in clock app, there's self.binary = 'ubuntu-clock-app' | 14:52 |
barry | peat-psuwit: for now, just keep reminding me ;) | 14:52 |
barry | i'll try to get back to it soon-ish | 14:52 |
jgdx | seb128, seems reasonable? | 14:52 |
peat-psuwit | barry: OK. | 14:52 |
seb128 | jgdx, yes, please just rename the variable | 14:53 |
jgdx | yup | 14:53 |
jgdx | seb128, filemanager too uses that pattern—self.binary = 'filemanager' | 14:54 |
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seb128 | k, that seems to make sense | 14:55 |
peat-psuwit | Does anyone know how to manage manual-type channel in system-image server? | 14:55 |
lotuspsychje | no ota8 on BQ yet here :p | 15:11 |
faenil | jgdx: still trying to understand what happens...ListItem and ListItemLayout are resized correctly, but Loader doesn't follow them as it should... | 15:40 |
jgdx | faenil, … until you remove the visible: height > 0 | 15:40 |
faenil | jgdx: yes because in that case there's no additional resizing | 15:41 |
faenil | jgdx: what happens is that ListItemLayout skips the layout process when the item is not visible (as it wouldn't make sense, right?) | 15:41 |
jgdx | yup | 15:41 |
faenil | jgdx: after it becomes visible (because the Item becomes visible) it updates its height, ListItem follows, but Loader doesn't | 15:42 |
jgdx | faenil, right, but it does send events, and a Connection { target: loader.item; onHeightChanged … fires | 15:42 |
faenil | yes, loader.item resizes correctly, it's Loader itself which doesn't follow | 15:43 |
jgdx | faenil, per the doc, that's supposed to happen automagically | 15:44 |
faenil | jgdx: but then if I trigger height+=1, then Loader picks it up, and it updates correctly | 15:44 |
faenil | jgdx: ListItemLayout resizes correctly, ListItem follows correctly, it is Loader that doesn't resize | 15:44 |
faenil | jgdx: as if the item resizes before Loader connects to item.heightChanged | 15:45 |
faenil | I'm towards thinking it's a Loader bug at the moment, but I'm still investigating as I'm not convinced | 15:45 |
brendand | dobey, hey, how far did you get with packaging the latest testtools? i seem to recall you were doing something with that before? | 15:46 |
jgdx | faenil, note that this bug was not present when using ListItem.Standard. Would that be because rendering is slower in ListItem.Standard, allowing the connection from loader to loader.item.heightChanged to be made first? | 15:47 |
faenil | jgdx: no, probably just because the old listitems had fixed height | 15:47 |
jgdx | oh, that's right | 15:47 |
faenil | jgdx: plus if I add height: "item ? item.height : 0" I get a binding loop | 15:48 |
faenil | and that doesn't make sense | 15:48 |
faenil | because ListItem's height doesn't depend on Loader's height | 15:48 |
faenil | (unless there's something Repeater or Column do that I'm not aware of) | 15:49 |
faenil | (that expression is for Loader's height ) | 15:49 |
dobey | brendand: i got it packaged in a PPA, but i think there's newer stuff now | 15:50 |
dobey | brendand: veebers e-mailed me about it as well, and i replied to him | 15:51 |
brendand | dobey, ok - he said he was going to but wasn't sure if he did. thanks | 15:52 |
jgdx | faenil, yeah, I saw those binding loops as well. Sadly I know too little of any of those component's internals. | 15:52 |
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dobey | brendand: wily/xenial has newer stuff, but still not new enough, fwiw | 15:53 |
brendand | dobey, can you point me to the ppa? | 15:54 |
faenil | jgdx: that's what happens http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13331179/ | 15:54 |
dobey | the latest testtools uses some stuff that's only in 3.5, and so requires some backports for older versions, which some people didn't want to have packaged in ubuntu, and i just gave up because i didn't want to argue about it | 15:54 |
dobey | brendand: ppa:dobey/testtools | 15:54 |
peat-psuwit | Does anyone know how to manage manual-type channel in system-image server? | 16:05 |
faenil | jgdx: just fyi, no problem is asyncronous in the Loader is false | 16:11 |
faenil | no problem if * | 16:12 |
faenil | jgdx: use "visible: status == Loader.Ready" | 16:15 |
faenil | since you're loading items asyncronously.. | 16:18 |
faenil | jgdx: I'll take silence as an "ok" :D | 16:29 |
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faenil | jgdx: I managed to reproduce the bug without ListItem/ListItemLayout | 18:01 |
faenil | jgdx: just Rectangles ;) | 18:01 |
faenil | at this point I'm quite sure this just has to do with the way Loader works, not a bug in uitk | 18:02 |
faenil | jgdx: as the Loader documentation says, one should either set the size in the loaded item, and Loader will copy that, *or* set the size of the Loader, not both | 18:05 |
faenil | one possible solution is to remove the anchors in the Loader and "onLoaded: item.width = Qt.binding(function() { return parent.width })" | 18:06 |
faenil | so that the item has both the correct width and height, and Loader just takes mirrors that | 18:06 |
* faenil -> eod | 18:06 | |
faenil | jgdx: if you need more help just ping me :) | 18:07 |
faenil | that's why Loader was complaining for binding loop when doing "width: item ? item.width : 0", because Loader was already trying to resize to do "item.width = loader.width" (that's pseudocode) because the loader had left and right anchors set, so Loader assumed it was its task to resize the loaded item (as the documentation says) | 18:09 |
faenil | s/width/heigth in the previous sentence | 18:09 |
* faenil -> really eod | 18:09 | |
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dragis | can i install ubuntu or ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 2012 | 18:12 |
dragis | ? | 18:12 |
OerHeks | dragis, no, " the Nexus 10 and the 2012 version of the Nexus 7 have been dropped from Ubuntu Touch support by Canonical." | 18:14 |
OerHeks | nexus 7 2013 is supported > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 18:15 |
dragis | ok thanks :) | 18:16 |
dobey | OerHeks: the nexus 10 is still on the devices list there as supported. i think you meant the galaxy nexus in wherever you got that quote from? :) | 18:23 |
OerHeks | dobey, i got that quote from http://www.androidcentral.com/ubuntu-touch-support-dropped-galaxy-nexus-nexus-7-2012-nexus-10 | 18:25 |
OerHeks | my bad, should stick to the latest info :-( | 18:26 |
davmor2 | dobey: it might need updating then we don't test manta any more | 18:33 |
dobey | davmor2: test in what sense? how often are flo, mako, or emulators tested? | 18:34 |
davmor2 | dobey: every ota release | 18:34 |
dobey | hmm, i need to set up an s-i server i think | 18:35 |
OerHeks | Is OTA-8 out yet? | 19:55 |
davmor2 | OerHeks: no probably Tomorrow | 19:56 |
OerHeks | oke thanks. | 19:56 |
jaywink | any idea anyone whether updating rc-proposed OTA images can overwrite things in a write mode enabled device? like extra packages installed via apt-get | 20:15 |
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davmor2 | jaywink: it will likely break things | 20:17 |
jaywink | davmor2, ok thanks, I'll refrain from applying them then, thanks | 20:23 |
dobey | jaywink: you should use a chroto instead | 20:25 |
dobey | jaywink: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311 | 20:25 |
pandatrone | soooooo cold brrr | 20:26 |
jaywink | dobey, hmmm... why? the ubuntu developers page itself specifies for enabling write mode to do "phablet-config writable-image" (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/). That works fine for me, apt-get and all works sweet. I don't want to do hacks to maintain OTA :) | 20:31 |
dobey | jaywink: because a) that breaks updates and b) / is not the full available space on the phone's flash. also, a chroot is not a hack. it is the correct way to be installing additional command line tools or running an ftp server on your phone | 20:33 |
jaywink | dobey, how does it break updates? does apt-get dist-upgrade not bring (at least) the changes that OTA "Ubuntu" would? As an ubuntu desktop + server user, to me that is a hack if I don't have to do that on my desktop/server to manage my system | 20:36 |
dobey | the writable-image stuff is for making developing and testing the image itself easier, not something people should use on actual phones | 20:36 |
jaywink | dobey, great, I love developing and testing :) | 20:36 |
dobey | jaywink: you don't get updates at all. apt-get dist-upgrade will break because there isn't enough space on / to continue doing it, and the way the filesystem is set up, cross-device links break things | 20:37 |
dobey | apt-get upgrade is not at all supported, even with writable-image, on the phone | 20:37 |
dobey | apt should only be used to install single packages from eg, a silo, to test things | 20:37 |
jaywink | ah, that is a shame :( | 20:38 |
dobey | and indeed, apt-get does not pull in all the updates that might be in an OTA image update | 20:38 |
dobey | it's not a shame, it's a fact | 20:38 |
jaywink | will the same be applied to desktops in the future, I mean, otherwise it's not really convergence? | 20:38 |
dobey | Ubuntu Personal will be system-image based, yes | 20:39 |
dobey | but the traditional ubuntu won't be going away | 20:39 |
dobey | well, i don't know how exactly system-image and snappy will fit together, but Ubuntu Personal is the future | 20:40 |
dobey | convergence doesn't mean enabling apt on phones, despite what many old hat thinkers might want :) | 20:41 |
jaywink | dobey, well, for the old hats it does :P | 20:42 |
jaywink | but yeah, you can't please everybody, I realize that. For me, a completely hackable device is what I want. | 20:43 |
dobey | well, then they can break their phones and have it open to huge gaping security holes and whatnot if they want | 20:43 |
dobey | most people who have cell phones want phones, not VAX terminals ;) | 20:44 |
jaywink | yep :) freedom to do what one wants | 20:44 |
dobey | but still | 20:44 |
jaywink | sure. but pleasing most people shouldn't mean stopping the minority ;) but as said, I realize the technical decision made | 20:45 |
dobey | if you want to make the best use of your ubuntu phone by installing random things via apt, the best way to do that, is in a chroot | 20:45 |
dobey | nothing is stopping you | 20:45 |
dobey | like i said, it breaks updates | 20:45 |
jaywink | thanks for your time | 20:45 |
dobey | you are welcome to make a choice to break updates, or to use a chroot and keep getting updates as well as having what you want via apt | 20:46 |
dobey | fwiw, legacy application support will be provided via container as well. | 20:47 |
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jgdx | faenil, but did we set both? Thanks for looking into it | 21:00 |
slash | hello, i need advice, could you please tell me how to start an app from the terminal ? | 21:35 |
jgdx | slash, $ ubuntu-app-launch is one way | 21:38 |
slash | thanks jgdx, unfortunatly i do not succeed with your way; two warning appear about unable to find a keyfile... | 21:46 |
jgdx | slash, what app? | 21:49 |
slash | kodimote | 21:50 |
slash | when I'm launching it just by the bin path; he gave me a "fail to connect to mir server3 | 21:51 |
slash | I found a bug at the connection; doens't accept the password; I would like to see the debug to send the report to the owner | 21:52 |
slash | I found a command to suppress the mir connection failure, how ever the app start nicely in terminal but without gui.... :/ so block when any action from me | 21:53 |
jgdx | slash, I'm a bit rusty on these things. Maybe #ubuntu-app-devel has more info right now. | 21:55 |
jgdx | slash, but how did you run ubuntu-app-launch? | 21:56 |
jgdx | pretty sure you'd need a click id, not a name or binary | 21:58 |
slash | ok thanks | 22:00 |
slash | copy pasting from the touch terminal isn't straigth forward :D | 22:01 |
slash | (process:13833): WARNING **: Unable to find keyfile for application '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote' ** (process:13833): WARNING **: Unable to find keyfile for application '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote' | 22:01 |
slash | and nothing more append... | 22:02 |
mzanetti | slash, try adding "-- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_..destkop" | 22:03 |
slash | Ha ha great, hello mzanetti | 22:04 |
mzanetti | slash, hello :) I assume you're the one that wrote the email | 22:07 |
slash | yes :) , m'I correct : "ubuntu-app-launch /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop" ? | 22:11 |
mzanetti | oh, I see, you're using ubuntu-app launch | 22:11 |
slash | I still have the same keyfile missing... | 22:11 |
dobey | slash: "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote" | 22:12 |
dobey | err, actually | 22:12 |
mzanetti | yes, in that case, no need for the desktop_file_hint hack | 22:12 |
dobey | slash: "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2" | 22:12 |
dobey | you do need the full app id | 22:12 |
mzanetti | thanks dobey :) | 22:12 |
dobey | np :) | 22:12 |
slash | ok thanks, i'm able to launch the app now | 22:17 |
slash | however I don't get any output, even with "ubuntu-app-launch com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2 -d connection", any idea ? | 22:18 |
mzanetti | slash, output will be written to ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-<appid>.log | 22:18 |
dobey | slash: you can't pass arguments to the app with ubuntu-app-launch like that | 22:20 |
dobey | you need to run "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop -d connection" to do that | 22:21 |
slash | Ok thanks mzanetti and dobey, for the information I got the log | 22:21 |
slash | ok i've to wrote it, these to command :) | 22:22 |
mzanetti | slash, I'm not sure if you can pass arguments to the app when using ubuntu-app-launch. I usually do what dobey said. no ubuntu-app-launch but instead with the --desktop_file_hint one. | 22:23 |
mzanetti | iirc kodimote should print in its first lines if it picked up some parameter | 22:23 |
mzanetti | well, if it worked, you'll see a lot more output prefixed with "Connection" | 22:23 |
slash | It's the first time i'm pulling out log from touch :) | 22:24 |
slash | ok i'll try and if it work you'll get a bug report:) thanks | 22:24 |
slash | Ok when writing "ubuntu-app-launch /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop" | 22:27 |
mzanetti | no ubuntu-app-launch in this case | 22:28 |
dobey | and no -- to pass args to child app | 22:28 |
dobey | i don't think anyway | 22:28 |
dobey | i could be wrong about that one, but i'm pretty sure you just pass --desktop_file_hint directly | 22:29 |
slash | sorry my mistake I paste the wrong line | 22:30 |
slash | "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop -d connection" | 22:30 |
slash | I got | 22:30 |
slash | Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.3.0.0' /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote: invalid option -- 'd' UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file Aborted (core dumped) | 22:30 |
mzanetti | on sec, looking up something | 22:31 |
dobey | slash: oh, remove the "-d connection" then | 22:31 |
mzanetti | dobey, the -d connection is the reason why he wants to do this | 22:31 |
slash | ok without I got an output, I though -d connection was able to extract even more dedication to the connection | 22:32 |
dobey | mzanetti: is that an option your app handles? | 22:32 |
mzanetti | /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection -- —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop | 22:32 |
mzanetti | dobey, kodimote | 22:32 |
mzanetti | slash, try changing the order and separating them with "--" as in my line above | 22:33 |
slash | my command : /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection — —desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop | 22:35 |
mzanetti | yes... this looks ok. just tried it, works here | 22:35 |
slash | Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.3.0.0' /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote: invalid option -- 'd' UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file Aborted (core dumped) | 22:35 |
slash | it does not :/ | 22:35 |
mzanetti | indeed, yours doesn't (there must be a typo) | 22:36 |
mzanetti | interesting | 22:36 |
mzanetti | you seem to have a different character for "-" | 22:36 |
slash | i'm doing copy/paste... | 22:36 |
mzanetti | -- vs — | 22:37 |
slash | hum correct | 22:37 |
slash | I got an output now in the terminal, can i write down the output in a log file by "/opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote/current/kodimote -d connection -- --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.kodimote_kodimote_2.1.2.2.desktop > logfile" ? | 22:41 |
mzanetti | should work I guess | 22:41 |
slash | FYI the typo comes from copy past between firefox - telegram / telegram - terminal :) | 22:42 |
mzanetti | slash, add this "> foo.log 2>&1" | 22:42 |
mzanetti | slash, you might want to enable ssh ;) | 22:42 |
mzanetti | on the phone | 22:42 |
slash | Yes but can I run the app from ssh connection and the gui stay in the phone ? | 22:43 |
slash | Ah yes it's working... | 22:44 |
slash | awsome !!! a new dimension | 22:44 |
slash | mzanetti: do you want in parallel the output of xbmcremote ? | 22:46 |
mzanetti | slash, I think kodimote should be enough | 22:46 |
slash | ok thanks for your help, bye | 22:47 |
mzanetti | yw. thanks for the bug report | 22:49 |
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