| tsdgeos | mzanetti: you could reproduce the bug with the dash contents being empty until closed again on the desktop? | 09:23 |
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| mzanetti | yes, 100% | 09:23 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: on unity7 too or just on unity8 as a session? | 09:24 |
| mzanetti | just unity8 | 09:24 |
| tsdgeos | k | 09:24 |
| tsdgeos | so i'll have to sort that first if i'm supposed to work on the bug :D | 09:24 |
| tsdgeos | first back to filters | 09:25 |
| mzanetti | right... strange it won't work for you | 09:25 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, but yes, sooner or later you'd need to get that sorted anyways. | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | actually it's very funny | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | since it throws an exception once i log in inside unity8 | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | so unity8 and stuff is already up | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: honestly i'm not very keen on going to debug why mir decides to throw expcetions up | 09:26 |
| tsdgeos | but oh well | 09:26 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, it must be some setup issue on your machine I think | 09:59 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: i don't knwo i almost removed and reinstalled everything regarding unity8 and mir yesterdya and the same | 10:00 |
| tsdgeos | i am not sure it may be something lib related | 10:00 |
| tsdgeos | but maybe | 10:01 |
| mzanetti | hmm | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | and the exception i get is a runtime one with unity8 running already | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | one would think that it it was a lib mismatch it'd fail to start altogether | 10:02 |
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| tsdgeos | Ç/back | 13:19 |
| tsdgeos | wops | 13:19 |
| tsdgeos | do we have any MR removing this? | 13:26 |
| tsdgeos | ./Stages/DesktopStage.qml:166: onVisibleChanged: console.log("VISIBLE", model.appId, visible) | 13:26 |
| tsdgeos | mzanetti: ↑ ? | 13:26 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos, not that I know, but there's chances ltinkl has one | 13:27 |
| ltinkl | tsdgeos, yup, it's gone in my new decorations branch | 13:32 |
| tsdgeos | k | 13:32 |
| mterry | ltinkl, welcome back :) | 14:08 |
| mterry | ltinkl, we had the meeting yesterday, only briefly talked about oobe, but looks like mostly they want spacing changes like making text lines taller -- i.e. more spacing between and trying to wrap text lines better | 14:09 |
| ltinkl | mterry, I explained in the review document this is not possible to do... sigh did they read it? :) | 14:09 |
| mterry | ltinkl, I've updated our PPA to be a bit closer to landing-ready. I've made it vivid+xenial. And added a couple other packages associated with my edge intro changes | 14:09 |
| mterry | ltinkl, oh I talked to them | 14:10 |
| ltinkl | mterry, cool, thanks for that | 14:10 |
| mterry | ltinkl, both seem possible. What's the problem? Don't we have a Text.lineHeight property? | 14:10 |
| ltinkl | mterry, they want to alter the linespacing, which isn't possible in QML | 14:10 |
| mterry | ltinkl, and couldn't we have an invisible Text that we know how long the label width is, so we know where to set its wrap width? | 14:10 |
| mterry | ltinkl, isn't that Text.lineHeight? | 14:10 |
| ltinkl | mterry, hmm right... maybe, will try | 14:11 |
| mterry | ltinkl, they also mentioned that some account screen they didn't want was still in there | 14:13 |
| mterry | ltinkl, but then they mentioned that there was some newish requirement to keep the "admin password" (new name for the sudo password) | 14:13 |
| mterry | ltinkl, I pushed back a little on that | 14:14 |
| mterry | ltinkl, as you can see in the email -- tried to figure out where that was coming from. It wasn't actually coming from security team, so I dunno why it's a requirement | 14:14 |
| ltinkl | mterry, yeah the account screen is still there as I was waiting for the final decision whether it's still needed or not | 14:15 |
| ltinkl | mterry, sent an email, let's see | 14:17 |
| mterry | ltinkl, oh also, I had to disable tests in my branch because your branch failed them. At the least for old imports (non-1.3), but maybe others? | 14:32 |
| mterry | ltinkl, though I don't think the PPA runs the full qmltest suite | 14:32 |
| mterry | ltinkl, let me know when you fix that and I can take out the disable line in mine | 14:33 |
| ltinkl | mterry, yeah the tests are not fully in shape yet | 14:38 |
| mterry | ltinkl, that's fine for the qmltests (mine aren't either). But the import-checker tests runs during build | 14:38 |
| mterry | ltinkl, so the PPA was ftbfs | 14:38 |
| mterry | ltinkl, so please fjix that at least (it was from your merge from trunk) | 14:38 |
| ltinkl | mterry, do you remember what was it failing at? | 14:50 |
| mterry | ltinkl, yeah bad imports (non-1.3 / qt5.4) | 14:50 |
| mterry | ltinkl, make tests should show the failure | 14:51 |
| ltinkl | mterry, hmm it passes here | 14:51 |
| mterry | ltinkl, uh I meant "make test" but if that still passes... good? I can remove the test-comment-out-lines | 14:53 |
| ltinkl | mterry, hmm that doesn't, a sec | 14:53 |
| mterry | k | 14:53 |
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| ltinkl | mterry, heh, interesting failure, it chokes on "import Ubuntu.Components.Popups 1.0" | 14:58 |
| ltinkl | mterry, the regexp is too greedy | 14:58 |
| mterry | ltinkl, no, your import should be 1.3 | 15:00 |
| ltinkl | mterry, ok, that works | 15:00 |
| ltinkl | mterry, I thought this component wasn't bumped | 15:01 |
| ltinkl | mterry, alright, pushed the fixes, make test passing | 15:03 |
| mterry | ltinkl, nic | 15:03 |
| mterry | e | 15:03 |
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| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: mzanetti: Any luck on reproducing the dual cursor on Unity 8 desktop? bregma was just able to reproduce. | 18:50 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, dandrader said he couldn't. I didn't find the time to try yet | 18:50 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, no. moved on to work on something else | 18:50 |
| mzanetti | let me try now | 18:50 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: dandrader: Ok | 18:51 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, hmm... interesting... | 18:52 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, so I started gedit, had just one cursor. then I clicked into gedit's menu, the cursor got stuck there and from the top left the second one appeared | 18:53 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, oh, don't do that! | 18:53 |
| mzanetti | dandrader, interesting thing is that the second cursor that appears is much faster than the first | 18:53 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, we don't support menus yet | 18:53 |
| mzanetti | right | 18:53 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, if will cause a new surface to be created to hold that menu. unity8 should blow up | 18:53 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, s/if/it | 18:53 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, hey, if I see gedit's window decoration, does that mean it runs in libertine? | 18:54 |
| ChrisTownsend | I see it when I click inside the gedit window. | 18:54 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: No, not libertine at all. | 18:54 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, gedit is drawing its own window decoration I think. from window manager's point of view it's a chrome-less window | 18:54 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, or should I say GTK | 18:55 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, another todo item: support "frameless" window hint or something like it | 18:55 |
| ChrisTownsend | Just clicking inside the gedit window will summon the second cursor. | 18:56 |
| mzanetti | had to reboot :D | 18:56 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, hmmmm.... so it's not jsut by running gedit, like the bug report said | 18:57 |
| mzanetti | just clicking inside the text editor doesn't get it for me | 18:58 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: No, I think I made a comment in the bug that entering the window will cause the second cursor to appear, but I think actually clicking in the window is what triggers it. | 18:58 |
| mzanetti | I can select text etc, all fine | 18:58 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: You don't have a second cursor? | 18:58 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, I think Unity8 developers are immune to this bug :) | 18:59 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, not unless I click a menu | 18:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: lol, you guys! | 18:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Hmm | 18:59 |
| mzanetti | I can repro it tho with the menu... | 18:59 |
| mzanetti | unity doesn't immediately blow up, it gets me the second cursor... doing some more clicks it eventually blows up then | 18:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | Actually, this time, just entering the gedit window brought up the 2nd cursor. | 19:00 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, could it be that it tries to open some tooltip or something? | 19:09 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: No, I don't think so. I just move the regular cursor into the window and move it and then the 2nd appears. | 19:09 |
| mzanetti | hmpf... nope, not happening here | 19:11 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: I don't understand.:-( | 19:12 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: I also see this using Vivid+overlay. | 19:12 |
| mzanetti | http://i.imgur.com/HfkVqiq.jpg | 19:13 |
| mzanetti | I can select text with the mouse just fine | 19:13 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Hmm, that kind of looks like the original cursor provided by Mir and not the new Unity8 cursor that is larger and fuzzier. | 19:14 |
| mzanetti | no, it's the slow one | 19:14 |
| mzanetti | high-dpi screen here | 19:14 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Ah, ok:) | 19:14 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Are you using a mouse or touchpad? | 19:15 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, speaking of which, can we scale gedit/gtk somehow? | 19:15 |
| mzanetti | touchpad | 19:15 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: I'm sure it can be, but I'm not sure how. | 19:15 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Ok, I'm using touchpad as well. | 19:15 |
| mzanetti | I'm on v+o too, daniel is probably on x | 19:16 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Well, I'm stumped as to why you guys don't see it, but I know of at least 4 different machines that get this issue. | 19:18 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: As dandrader said, I guess you guys are immune. | 19:18 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, how are you running it? starting a session from lightdm? unity8-desktop-session-mir? | 19:19 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Yes, unity8-desktop-session-mir and using lightdm to login. All packages from the archive. | 19:20 |
| mzanetti | same here :/ | 19:20 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: Hmm, something weird. I had my mouse over the window and was moving it slowly and didn't see the 2nd cursor. Then as I was moving it, it showed up on the edge of the window as if it became visible all of a sudden and then stayed visible. I wonder since you're on hi dpi if you keep moving the cursor around until the hidden cursor hits the window. | 19:24 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: dandrader: What code tells Mir to hide it's cursor? | 19:28 |
| ChrisTownsend | (I guess it's Mir cursor) | 19:29 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, it's in qtmir | 19:29 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: ok | 19:29 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, it's kinda workaround. Mir is buggy when its comes to cursor visibility | 19:30 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, grep for 1502200 | 19:31 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, (it's the bug number associated with the issue) | 19:31 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Ok, will do, thanks | 19:31 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, and the fix (new api for wrapping mir cursor) is also buggy | 19:32 |
| bregma | I'm not on a high DPI screen when I see the second cursor | 19:32 |
| dandrader | bregma, screen DPI should be orthogonal to this issue | 19:33 |
| bregma | the supernumerarary cursor looks like a hardware cursor | 19:33 |
| bregma | maybe GTK is turning that on directly (it likes to take control) and Unity 8 only does software cursors | 19:34 |
| ChrisTownsend | bregma: I do get the issue when running X apps as well like LO and FF. | 19:35 |
| bregma | ChrisTownsend, on Unity 8? Don't those apps use GTK back ends where possible? | 19:36 |
| ChrisTownsend | bregma: I mean in a Libertine container, although I want to be clear that Libertine is not the culprit. | 19:37 |
| ChrisTownsend | I think screen resolution/DPI does have an effect on when the Mir cursor actually hits the gedit window. | 19:41 |
| ChrisTownsend | It's not the cause of the issue, only it hides the issue from occurring. | 19:42 |
| ChrisTownsend | Probably something in Mir that says show the cursor over these types of windows. | 19:43 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, thing is, mir has no idea of what's going on in the unity8 qml scene | 19:59 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, unity-system-compositor only knows that it's (hidden) cursor is over the unity8 surface, which takes the entire screen | 20:00 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, the hardware cursor (that little bugger that pops up) is controlled by unity-system-compositor | 20:01 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Ok, thanks for the explanation. | 20:01 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Hmm, doing a quick look through u-s-c code, I don't see any calls to hide()/show() methods for the cursor. Would there be other method names that do the same thing? | 20:04 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, I don't know that code. But I would think it's all in libmir itself | 20:09 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, ie, Mir | 20:09 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Ok | 20:09 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, it can be confusing. Because qtmir/unity8 uses libmir's server API, but it's in reality running as a nested server. It, from u-s-c perspective it's just a client application/surface | 20:10 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Yes, very confusing:) | 20:11 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, so in the nested server code paths you have server API's calling client APIs behind the scenes to talk to unity-system-compositor | 20:11 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, and that pretty much explains why the cursor API works so badly in a nested server | 20:12 |
| ChrisTownsend | dandrader: Sheesh, that's kind of messed up. | 20:12 |
| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, I mean, it makes sense. but must be hell to implement :) | 20:13 |
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| ChrisTownsend | dandrader|afk: mzanetti: Rebuilding lightdm to disable "--enable-hardware-cursor=true" in it's call to unity-system-compositor no longer brings up the hardware cursor. Not sure what the side effects of that is. | 20:28 |
| mzanetti | yeah... I guess if it always loads all the things this can quickly become too memory consuming | 20:31 |
| mzanetti | wrong chat :D | 20:31 |
| mzanetti | ChrisTownsend, interesting. so when you see both cursors, does it still work fine? it's just a visual thing? | 20:32 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: The Unity 8 cursor is the one that works, the hardware cursor does not. | 20:33 |
| ChrisTownsend | mzanetti: I'm going to talk to robert_ancell about removing the hack in lightdm. | 20:33 |
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| dandrader | ChrisTownsend, interesting | 20:52 |
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| lpotter | hello | 22:42 |
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