| didrocks | good morning! | 05:56 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Good morning | 06:14 |
| hikiko | good morning desktopers :D | 06:37 |
| didrocks | hey hikiko | 06:38 |
| hikiko | my isp just gave me 10GB mobile internet for free until they fix the problem so that I can use my mobile as a hotspot until they fix the issue :) | 06:38 |
| hikiko | \m/ | 06:38 |
| hikiko | hi didrocks :) | 06:38 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:42 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko, re didrocks | 06:42 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 06:43 |
| hikiko | hi seb128 | 06:45 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:21 |
| * pitti -> appointment, bbl | 07:21 | |
| seb128 | pitti, salut pitti, ça va ? | 07:21 |
| larsu | good morning! | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 08:03 |
| larsu | bonjour didrocks! | 08:05 |
| Trevinho | Buon giorno! | 08:14 |
| larsu | hey Trevinho | 08:16 |
| didrocks | morning Trevinho | 08:16 |
| seb128 | hey larsu, wie gehts? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho | 08:17 |
| larsu | morning seb128! good thanks - and you? | 08:17 |
| Trevinho | Hi larsu, didrocks, seb128 ;-) | 08:19 |
| darkxst | hey all | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 08:35 |
| * Trevinho hates when can't connect to routers... | 08:40 | |
| didrocks | interesting those frameworks which keeps changing their icon path :p | 08:53 |
| didrocks | (great that tests enable us to discover this) | 08:54 |
| willcooke | morning | 09:00 |
| larsu | willcooke: bonjour | 09:01 |
| didrocks | morning willcooke | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney | 09:03 |
| Laney | hey ;-) | 09:03 |
| Laney | a pre hello hey from seb128! | 09:03 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:03 |
| Laney | i think you meant larsu | 09:03 |
| seb128 | no, but it was within the minute you usually say hello | 09:04 |
| larsu | morning Laney :) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | so I though it was good timing ;-) | 09:04 |
| larsu | seb128 is clever | 09:04 |
| Laney | a cunning young man | 09:05 |
| Laney | some would say too cunning | 09:05 |
| Laney | hi larsu! | 09:05 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:05 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 09:05 |
| seb128 | what's going on with autopkgtests, why is there so much backlog? | 09:08 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 09:09 |
| * seb128 looks at pitti | 09:09 | |
| Laney | one of the cloud regions is broken | 09:10 |
| Laney | so there are 10 less workers than normal | 09:10 |
| seb128 | I see | 09:10 |
| seb128 | need to to feed more hamsters | 09:11 |
| Laney | still doesn't seem to have gotten to most of the gtk tests though | 09:12 |
| Laney | that's been like 1.5 days now | 09:12 |
| Laney | which is a bit suspicious | 09:13 |
| seb128 | yeah, some are in progress for ages | 09:13 |
| Laney | and the queue only shrunk by like 60 overnight on xenial/amd64 | 09:13 |
| Laney | I think one problem is that kde tests all do a rebuild from source | 09:14 |
| Laney | don't know if that explains all this | 09:14 |
| Laney | there were quite a lot on trusty too because of some kernel uploads | 09:14 |
| Laney | bleh | 09:14 |
| Laney | did you see my request yesterday for some promotions? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | yeah, I was still around but not in full work mode | 09:15 |
| seb128 | and I'm unsure I feel like promoting things without a MIR | 09:15 |
| seb128 | is that "perl sources can be freely promoted" written somewhere? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | it feels weird | 09:16 |
| seb128 | like why do we need to bother for things like cmake rules or small python wrappers, but perl is ok? | 09:16 |
| Laney | ok, never mind, I'll ask someone else | 09:17 |
| Laney | thanks! | 09:17 |
| seb128 | I'm tempted to just do it for the sake of avoiding work though :p | 09:17 |
| seb128 | sorry, ping me again if you don't manage to get a reply for e.g infinity | 09:17 |
| seb128 | I'm a bit reluctant but it's not going to take a lot to convince me ;-) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | what is pulling those in now btw? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | I missed the context | 09:17 |
| Laney | lintian | 09:18 |
| robert_ancell | Hi all | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | Writing planning documents feels like going back 10 years in software development... | 09:19 |
| Laney | hey robert_ancell | 09:20 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell! | 09:20 |
| Laney | what a nice surprise! | 09:20 |
| seb128 | how are you? (out of the planning documents writting ;-) | 09:20 |
| didrocks | hey robert_ancell! | 09:20 |
| Laney | what's the planning document for? | 09:21 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, sore. I spent the evening putting up insulation in my house renovation. Wild times for me! | 09:21 |
| robert_ancell | Laney, GNOME Software | 09:21 |
| willcooke | ohai robert_ancell ! | 09:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: +1 on being annoyed by those CI downtime without warnings (spent an hour this morning because all machines were on weird state) | 09:22 |
| * Laney tries didrocks appstream commit | 09:26 | |
| didrocks | no fear! :-) | 09:27 |
| Laney | is using a virtualenv best practice? | 09:28 |
| didrocks | Laney: if you want to control exactly what deps are in, yeah | 09:29 |
| Laney | I got all the deps from the archive anyway | 09:29 |
| Laney | so it made me wonder a bit | 09:29 |
| didrocks | (and if you use --site-packages, it's just a portable way to have your binaries installed in a non root dir) | 09:29 |
| didrocks | so I would say it's still the best to do | 09:29 |
| Laney | because with setting PYTHONPATH it works directly from the checkout | 09:29 |
| didrocks | better than /usr/local/… | 09:29 |
| Laney | but it's not hard to install it | 09:29 |
| didrocks | yeah, I would still suggest to install it | 09:29 |
| didrocks | in this virtualenv | 09:30 |
| Laney | unless there is weird path stuff | 09:30 |
| didrocks | Laney: btw, I guess the service isn't scalable with just served by one server, isn't it? | 09:30 |
| didrocks | what's the plan for that, giving it charmed to IS? | 09:30 |
| didrocks | or handling it in canonistack for some amount of time | 09:31 |
| Laney | like this https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/blob/master/dep11/generator.py#L386 | 09:31 |
| didrocks | and handling replications and such | 09:31 |
| Laney | what do you mean? | 09:31 |
| Laney | launchpad will just pull the data into the archive | 09:31 |
| pitti | re | 09:31 |
| pitti | seb128: 'sup? | 09:31 |
| Laney | users don't hit it directly really | 09:31 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, the backlog -- well, look at excuses.html :/ | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, that's what I'm looking at | 09:31 |
| didrocks | Laney: ah, so one consumer (being launchpad), but still, who will host it? | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, things seem to be on "in progress" for days | 09:32 |
| Laney | $cloud | 09:32 |
| didrocks | Laney: I have some suggestions if it's on canonistack to ensure it's always up :) | 09:32 |
| pitti | seb128: and bos01 died over night, so it didn't make as much progress as it could have | 09:32 |
| didrocks | (even one instance) | 09:32 |
| Laney | it'll be on prodstack or whatever I guess | 09:32 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:32 |
| didrocks | so not us | 09:32 |
| pitti | debci-xenial-amd64 472 | 09:32 |
| Laney | canonistack is no good for a production service | 09:32 |
| pitti | debci-xenial-armhf 30 | 09:32 |
| pitti | debci-xenial-i386 256 | 09:32 |
| pitti | debci-xenial-ppc64el 8 | 09:32 |
| Laney | it's been randomly shut down many times already | 09:32 |
| didrocks | Laney: the path stuff doesn't really shock me TBH | 09:32 |
| Laney | and only been up for like 1 week | 09:32 |
| didrocks | Laney: it's either using prod data or local checkout one, which is common | 09:32 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, I know -- we are still heavily underpowered and Monday's KDE landing causes an awful backlog as the tests take very long | 09:32 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, that's why if you wanted to use something like kubernetes meanwhile… | 09:33 |
| didrocks | (providing one or multiple pods and keeping them up) | 09:33 |
| Laney | didrocks: this breaks if it's in the virtualenv though no? | 09:33 |
| Laney | because ".." won't be what it wants it to be | 09:33 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, wierd that it worked, though, right? | 09:34 |
| Laney | I don't know that it did | 09:34 |
| Laney | because of the bug you fixed it never ran | 09:34 |
| Laney | so would have found this later on | 09:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, I see, would be nice to have some smart logic to not let big jobs DoS the infra and take all the builders, blocking the small/easy ones | 09:34 |
| seb128 | oh well | 09:34 |
| seb128 | no hurry, let's wait | 09:34 |
| didrocks | Laney: I told you I tried it in a virtualenv on the machine, no? | 09:34 |
| Laney | did you look at the output? | 09:34 |
| pitti | seb128: believe me, I'm harrassing IS regularly about getting moar powah :/ I know it sucks | 09:35 |
| didrocks | yep, it generated some new content, but I didn't look in detail (there was some warning, but similar to the one you had with your global run IIRC) | 09:35 |
| Laney | I guess the system fallback would have worked | 09:35 |
| * Laney removes the package ;-) | 09:36 | |
| didrocks | yeah | 09:36 |
| didrocks | if you installed it :p | 09:36 |
| didrocks | the best practice is first to factorize that in a get_template_dir() | 09:36 |
| didrocks | and have the logic poking here | 09:36 |
| pitti | seb128: so KDE and lots of other xenial packages plus new kernels in all stables (which also trigger several hundred tests each), plus little capacity -> I don't think reordering gains us that much there | 09:36 |
| Laney | how do you get the root directory of the virtualenv? | 09:36 |
| pitti | seb128: is there a package that's particularly pressing? we can hint it | 09:37 |
| didrocks | Laney: $VIRTUAL_ENV | 09:37 |
| Laney | neat | 09:38 |
| didrocks | isn't it? :p | 09:38 |
| didrocks | Laney: want some help or you are handling the patch? | 09:38 |
| Laney | as you wish | 09:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, it's ok, mostly mir and gtk+ but they are not that urgent | 09:39 |
| Laney | there are some other cases e.g. dep11-hints.yml | 09:39 |
| didrocks | Laney: can handle a small refactoring of this if you wish | 09:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw, other topic ... could we have a cron job for xenial langpacks updates? | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, do we have exports now? sure! | 09:41 |
| * seb128 wants his new gedit translated :p | 09:41 | |
| pitti | (I need to build the first one by hand, but that's simple) | 09:41 |
| pitti | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+language-packs :( | 09:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, unsure, but translations are open | 09:41 |
| pitti | -> #u-devel | 09:41 |
| seb128 | k | 09:41 |
| willcooke | seb128, did you see that Yorba went under? :( | 09:50 |
| seb128 | willcooke, no, I didn't see, but I assumed they did since none of the projects are active and we didn't get a reply for the shotwell key issue since june | 09:51 |
| seb128 | where did you read that? | 09:51 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: aren't they the guys that do shotwell | 09:51 |
| willcooke | seb128, G+ | 09:51 |
| willcooke | davmor2, exactly | 09:51 |
| willcooke | so worth having a quick discussion about Shotwell? I mean, nothing has changed for ages, so we could keep it and not expect any serious breakage. But might be worth thinking about a change of app? | 09:52 |
| willcooke | popey, ^^ | 09:52 |
| davmor2 | time to re-evaluate gphoto maybe | 09:52 |
| larsu | sad for them | 09:54 |
| larsu | but yeah, kind of expected | 09:54 |
| seb128 | davmor2, gnome-photos I guess you mean? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | we could, but changing in a LTS cycle... | 09:59 |
| seb128 | and it's new GNOME style which doesn't fit well with our desktop | 09:59 |
| seb128 | where shotwell is desktop style | 09:59 |
| davmor2 | seb128: yeah thought it was gphoto but yes the gnome photos app | 10:00 |
| seb128 | old school desktop* | 10:00 |
| willcooke | seb128, agreed. Sounds like a job for LTS+1 (to consider the alternatives) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | also gnome-photos might depends on tracker or things we are not currently using (though I didn't look at it at all) | 10:00 |
| Laney | last I heard gnome photos didn't do importing from digital cameras yet | 10:00 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, also let's see if somebody picks shotwell up | 10:00 |
| darkxst | seb128, yes, I suspect gnome-photos uses tracker | 10:00 |
| Laney | or any photo editing | 10:00 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: well by then we'll be unity8 based and have gallery right ;) | 10:01 |
| willcooke | davmor2, it's a possibility | 10:02 |
| seb128 | I doubt it | 10:05 |
| seb128 | they were talking about deprecating gallery | 10:05 |
| seb128 | the camera app is having most of the features | 10:06 |
| popey | Hah! | 10:09 |
| popey | Gallery - Written by Yorba | 10:09 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:09 |
| Laney | didrocks: huh, I forgot to reply to you? | 10:10 |
| Laney | didrocks: feel free to handle it if you are willing :) | 10:10 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, I was waiting for you to be back on that :) | 10:12 |
| didrocks | Laney: ok, will do that this afternoon | 10:12 |
| seb128 | willcooke, do you have an url to that g+ post? | 10:12 |
| didrocks | seems ptyprocess needs a MIR | 10:12 |
| seb128 | just curious, I'm probably not subscribed to the same people you are | 10:13 |
| Laney | didrocks: I at least typed something, must have deleted it :P | 10:13 |
| Laney | what is pytprocess? | 10:13 |
| willcooke | seb128, sure, one sec.... | 10:13 |
| didrocks | ptyprocess* | 10:13 |
| didrocks | Laney: something used by pexpect to handle virtual shells | 10:13 |
| willcooke | https://goo.gl/SsAhv | 10:14 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:15 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:15 |
| willcooke | https://plus.google.com/+NathanDyerdotMe/posts/67ts6ALTmTx | 10:15 |
| Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 10:15 |
| Laney | "AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" | 10:15 |
| * Laney closes that tab forever | 10:16 | |
| * robert_ancell -> sleep | 10:34 | |
| willcooke | see you robert_ancell | 10:34 |
| robert_ancell | bye all | 10:34 |
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| === alan_g|test is now known as alan_g | ||
| === greyback__ is now known as greyback | ||
| pitti | seb128, Laney: ok, 45 mins with IS later I now have lcy01 and 8 extra workers back; let's see how long they'll hold :) | 10:56 |
| Laney | pitti: good luck | 11:01 |
| Laney | I noticed they re-enabled some builders there which all died again | 11:01 |
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| Laney | https://launchpad.net/builders <- lcy01-* Cleaning | 11:01 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, axino said he'd try to restart those and monitor | 11:03 |
| Laney | pitti: I mean that as a sign that it still wasn't stable at least earlier this morning | 11:04 |
| pitti | 11:54:58 axino | pitti: when they're all disabled, lcy01 tends to be stable | 11:04 |
| Laney | although maybe it is those that bring down the cloud and not the cloud itself being bad | 11:04 |
| pitti | "they" -> lcy01 buildds | 11:04 |
| Laney | what's the interesting difference between this and lgw01 that makes lgw01 reliable? | 11:05 |
| pitti | Laney: I have no idea | 11:11 |
| Laney | sort of rhetorical :) | 11:12 |
| * Laney is tail -f log/lcy*.log | 11:13 | |
| pitti | Laney: as long as you don't see "ERROR"s in nova list, things should be okay | 11:13 |
| Laney | nod | 11:14 |
| pitti | man, one of these days I need to figure out why some tests use the ugly instance names | 11:14 |
| pitti | seems the --name option doesn't get passed along properly in one case | 11:14 |
| darkxst | Laney, can you add gnome-builder to desktop-extra? | 11:17 |
| Laney | darkxst: if you mail devel-permissions | 11:18 |
| darkxst | Laney, kk | 11:19 |
| Laney | but aren't you getting that fixed in debian? | 11:19 |
| Laney | i.e. autosync | 11:19 |
| darkxst | Laney, yes, I am pushing the fixes through debian | 11:22 |
| darkxst | but its kinda crap when I have to wait on debian to fix FTBS etc | 11:23 |
| darkxst | (ones that only affect us) | 11:24 |
| Laney | get some sponsored uploads | 11:24 |
| Laney | then you can become DM | 11:24 |
| darkxst | Laney, who is going to sign my key? | 11:25 |
| Laney | one of these kind people https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU | 11:27 |
| darkxst | Laney, or I just come to the debian hackfest, if CC will sponsor it ;) | 11:29 |
| darkxst | ^ insert pkg-gnome | 11:30 |
| Laney | heh | 11:31 |
| Laney | when is that? | 11:31 |
| darkxst | no date set yet | 11:32 |
| Laney | which mailing list? | 11:34 |
| Laney | don't see one | 11:34 |
| Laney | just some irc the other day | 11:34 |
| darkxst | Laney, only irc, but it will happen sooner or later | 11:35 |
| darkxst | unless its like the git migration, that doesnt want to happen | 11:36 |
| Laney | that's one reason to have a sprint | 11:37 |
| darkxst | yep | 11:38 |
| darkxst | but then also must be a reason we don't have branches on alioth either ;) | 11:39 |
| Laney | the script is the hard part | 11:41 |
| Laney | ask tumbleweed | 11:41 |
| darkxst | Laney, I was alluding to the point that it should in theory be really simple to create packaging branches for ubuntu GNOME/gnome3 ppa's, but it still hasnt happened | 11:48 |
| Laney | oh right | 11:48 |
| Laney | it's going to be cool to be able to git merge | 11:49 |
| * Laney does this for gstreamer already and it is g-r-e-a-t | 11:49 | |
| darkxst | I already git merge everything, but major hacky, since not merging real commits | 11:49 |
| Laney | mmm | 11:50 |
| darkxst | works pretty well though, apart from the fact you have to resolve all conflicts before commiting | 11:53 |
| Laney | are you using rerere? | 11:55 |
| darkxst | gbp and a custom script that pulls in bzr packaging branches if available | 11:55 |
| * darkxst really should sleep now, I meant to do that an hour ago | 11:59 | |
| Laney | lxc -> xenial | 11:59 |
| * Laney looks at dbus merge now | 11:59 | |
| * Laney loses utf8 sbuild on desktop too now :( | 12:23 | |
| seb128 | Laney, utf8 sbuild? | 12:38 |
| Laney | yeah it had nice output | 12:39 |
| Laney | now it's all ascii | 12:39 |
| seb128 | :-( | 12:40 |
| Laney | hardly a big deal :P | 12:42 |
| seb128 | yeah | 12:42 |
| seb128 | oh, nice, gnome-desktop3 migrated, seems like autopkgtest backlog is getting smaller ;-) | 12:43 |
| Laney | gtk got some green too | 12:43 |
| seb128 | nice | 12:46 |
| seb128 | larsu, are you looking at the nautilus menubar thing or not yet? I'm trying to decide what I should do with the nautilus update, wait a bit/upload without menubar to start/... | 12:47 |
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| didrocks | so, they cancel the light festival in Lyon… | 12:52 |
| seb128 | they do?! | 12:53 |
| seb128 | it's well in advance | 12:53 |
| didrocks | well, it's in less than a month | 12:53 |
| didrocks | like 2 weeks and a day | 12:54 |
| didrocks | so not that much in advance | 12:54 |
| didrocks | (on the contrary even, hotels are booked in general 6 months in advance) | 12:54 |
| larsu | seb128: does tomorrow work for you? | 12:54 |
| seb128 | larsu, next week work as well, I just want an estimate if it's worth waiting or better to go without and do that later | 12:55 |
| larsu | seb128: ok. I'll do it tomorrow :) | 12:55 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 12:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, I guess my comment was rather "it's probably not reacting to a particular plot they found but just being cautious/not wanting to risk it because it's difficult to secure a such event" | 12:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, basically they fear that some noise of explosion due to anything create panicks | 12:57 |
| seb128 | pitti is going to need to come to your place again next year then! | 12:57 |
| pitti | en effect ! | 12:57 |
| Laney | but the stollen! | 12:57 |
| seb128 | double stollen! | 12:58 |
| seb128 | one this year, one next :p | 12:58 |
| pitti | non, je vais toujour venir ! | 12:58 |
| seb128 | tu as raison | 12:58 |
| didrocks | ;) | 13:01 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti | 13:01 | |
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| ricotz | attente, hi, is thr | 13:14 |
| ricotz | oop | 13:14 |
| ricotz | attente, hi, is there a current patch-set of mir for gtk+ git master? | 13:15 |
| attente | ricotz: for the ubuntu package? because it should be up-to-date as it hasn't had any activity in a while | 13:17 |
| ricotz | attente, I mean gtk+ git master doesnt compile against mir in xenial | 13:17 |
| attente | ricotz: i'll take a look | 13:18 |
| ricotz | ./gdk/mir/gdkmir-debug.c:106:36: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mir_touch_event_get_cookie' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] | 13:19 |
| attente | ricotz: you'll probably have to build against mir trunk because that's new api | 13:21 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti, can you help me to understand http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ldb ? why aren't armhf/ppc64el trying for the current version? | 13:22 |
| ricotz | attente, hmm, I see | 13:22 |
| pitti | Laney, seb128: bug 1512779 -- ATM these need to be retried manually, sorry | 13:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1512779 in Auto Package Testing "Failing tests are not re-triggered when package with failures is re-uploaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512779 | 13:22 |
| desrt | good morning, fellow desktoply -inclined people | 13:22 |
| seb128 | hey desrt! | 13:23 |
| Laney | urgh, look at the wrapping in that bug | 13:23 |
| pitti | seb128: let me retry all armhf/ppc64 failures wholesale, the qeueus are emtpy | 13:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 13:23 |
| attente | ricotz: you can also just delete the line since it's just there for debugging purposes | 13:23 |
| pitti | well, not "empty", but "short" | 13:23 |
| Laney | note to self: never hard wrap when writing launchpad comments in the web UI | 13:23 |
| attente | ricotz: but afaik, it won't behave any differently than what's in the archive for xenial | 13:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, nag the launchpad team to have them to display a wrapping line in the ui so if you want to do it manually you know where ;-) | 13:24 |
| Laney | I probably used vimperator and vipgq it | 13:25 |
| ricotz | attente, alright, will do that | 13:25 |
| * Laney does some rebuilds for liburcu | 13:25 | |
| Laney | it'll be annoying if things get blocked on this transition after the tests run :P | 13:26 |
| Laney | pitti: "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" - erm? | 13:27 |
| pitti | wut? | 13:28 |
| Laney | failure just now | 13:28 |
| pitti | oh, bos01-ppc64el-9 | 13:28 |
| pitti | Mem: 2050048 1912936 137112 1280 328800 624912 | 13:28 |
| pitti | doesn't seem terrible | 13:28 |
| pitti | erk, wrong machine | 13:29 |
| pitti | Mem: 2050048 1975464 74584 1228 7524 84096 | 13:29 |
| Laney | isn't that from the cloud worker? | 13:29 |
| pitti | still | 13:29 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, it is | 13:29 |
| * pitti shrugs, let's see if it happens on more workers | 13:30 | |
| pitti | lcy01 is still up -- scary! | 13:30 |
| pitti | it really seems it's the buildds OR autopkgtest, there's no AND there | 13:30 |
| * Laney restarted it | 13:31 | |
| Laney | cosmic rays | 13:32 |
| === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, we still get error reports for the unity-webapps-* migration scripts, didn't you put a landing up to drop those previous cycle? | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i did, not sure if they landed | 13:50 |
| * kenvandine checks | 13:50 | |
| kenvandine | seb128, yes, silo 38 | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | the branches are still awaiting review | 13:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, can you nag someone? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | dbarth? | 13:52 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| Laney | seb128: can you look at NEW for ltt-control please? | 14:01 |
| Laney | I fake synced it from git, will block liburcu, mir, etc | 14:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok | 14:01 |
| Laney | thanks | 14:01 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:01 |
| * Laney lunch | 14:03 | |
| seb128 | Laney, done | 14:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, enjoy! | 14:03 |
| === nudtrobert1 is now known as nudtrobert | ||
| desrt | google impresses me | 14:22 |
| desrt | they actually managed to make google+ _more_ difficult to use | 14:22 |
| larsu | oh true this looks different | 14:23 |
| larsu | morning desrt | 14:23 |
| desrt | g' morning | 14:23 |
| seb128 | less easy to read :-/ | 14:25 |
| desrt | also less easy to do anything at all | 14:25 |
| desrt | ...and it was pretty bad to begin with | 14:25 |
| seb128 | I'm not doing much with it out of browser through posts and reading sometimes comments | 14:25 |
| larsu | don't use it? | 14:25 |
| mdeslaur | I gather their goal is to make everyone leave before they shut it down | 14:25 |
| desrt | that's sort of the impression i got | 14:26 |
| desrt | people will be less upset that way | 14:26 |
| desrt | unfortunately, google+/hangouts use is more or less mandatory for ingress operations :( | 14:27 |
| larsu | "unfortunately" :P | 14:28 |
| willcooke | :D | 14:28 |
| desrt | i totally geeked out on the social aspects of this game | 14:28 |
| desrt | which unfortunately has dragged me into a world of G+ pain | 14:29 |
| larsu | isn't it just the account you need? | 14:29 |
| desrt | technically you don't need a G+ account at all -- just google login | 14:31 |
| desrt | but again, all the social aspects... | 14:31 |
| desrt | any kind of non-boring high-level play involves a fairly large amount of groupwork | 14:31 |
| desrt | a bit of it is kinda implicit "i see my team happens to be holding this territory, i'll help out" type stuff... but anything beyond that requires coordination | 14:33 |
| desrt | and since it's all hooked into the "G" ecosystem, this is the platform of choice for everything... G+ and hangouts | 14:33 |
| larsu | makes sense | 14:34 |
| larsu | everyone has a google account by definition | 14:34 |
| larsu | doesn't make sense to have another one | 14:34 |
| desrt | and it's just one simple click to "upgrade" to G+! | 14:35 |
| * Sweet5hark is back from berlin. | 14:47 | |
| Sweet5hark | Twas awesome. | 14:47 |
| qengho | Sweet5hark: what was in Berlin? | 14:52 |
| Sweet5hark | qengho: 2. open it summit by the greens and OSBA. lots of members of parliament asking how they can help open source/open data/etc. | 14:54 |
| qengho | Nice. | 14:54 |
| pitti | Laney: lgw workers dying> looks like orphaned instances, I'm cleaning up and restart | 14:59 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| willcooke | didrocks, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/ubuntu-15-10-review-wily-werewolf-leaves-scary-experimentation-for-next-year/ | 15:35 |
| willcooke | didrocks, "If you're looking for a quick way to get, for example, a basic Android development environment setup, you'd be hard pressed to beat Ubuntu Make's simple umake android command." | 15:36 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 15:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well done! | 15:39 |
| didrocks | thx ;) | 15:41 |
| didrocks | happy that it's started to get noticed by the press | 15:41 |
| didrocks | (while I'm fighting pokfdpokfspodkfpods proxy on jenkins… not allowing me to access to localhost) | 15:41 |
| willcooke | erm, maybe larsu or seb128 - will we get the Google Drive integration from GNOME apps in 16.04? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yes, the current gvfs has a backend for it | 16:01 |
| seb128 | though unsure if that needs online account integration/is going to work with uoa | 16:02 |
| seb128 | also somebody needs to merge gvfs with Debian | 16:02 |
| larsu | I think it does | 16:02 |
| seb128 | but xnox just put his name on that by doing a rebuild ;-) | 16:02 |
| willcooke | lulz | 16:02 |
| larsu | haha | 16:03 |
| xnox | NOOOOOOO | 16:03 |
| larsu | welcome back xnox | 16:03 |
| Laney | swap with me for mdadm | 16:03 |
| * Laney doesn't mind doing gvfs | 16:03 | |
| Laney | but I definitely do mind merging mdadm | 16:03 |
| xnox | Laney, deal | 16:03 |
| Laney | thanks | 16:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, xnox, thanks | 16:08 |
| willcooke | desktoppers: I'm going to swap some hours tomorrow morning. I'll be back around lunchtime. Telegram if you need anything | 16:13 |
| Laney | *anything*? | 16:13 |
| Laney | sudo make me a sandwich | 16:13 |
| willcooke | I'll go to subway, buy you a sandwich and put it in the pist | 16:16 |
| willcooke | *post | 16:16 |
| willcooke | no, wait, better idea | 16:16 |
| willcooke | muhaha | 16:17 |
| xnox | willcooke, justeat.co.uk do delivery might be easier to order it like that. | 16:19 |
| Laney | I'm off tomorrow, so I could be anywhere | 16:20 |
| Laney | drone delivery ought to be fine | 16:20 |
| Laney | as long as it's not delivering a hellfire missile | 16:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, enjoy the long w.e! | 16:22 |
| Laney | thanks! | 16:22 |
| Laney | this is one of the three days I had to use up :P | 16:22 |
| * seb128 should look at the team calendar once a week | 16:23 | |
| seb128 | willcooke missed that one on the monday summary ;-) | 16:23 |
| Laney | nah, I booked it on monday | 16:23 |
| seb128 | ah, ok | 16:23 |
| seb128 | any plan for the day? | 16:23 |
| seb128 | climbing? | 16:23 |
| Laney | bake a cake for rosie's birthday | 16:23 |
| seb128 | day/w.e | 16:23 |
| seb128 | ah, nice | 16:23 |
| Laney | I want to make one of those rainbow cakes | 16:23 |
| willcooke | yeah, I was thinking about that, perhaps move the email later in the day, or even to Tuesday | 16:23 |
| Laney | they are cool | 16:23 |
| seb128 | take a picture for us :-) | 16:23 |
| Laney | and then climbing | 16:23 |
| willcooke | cake! | 16:24 |
| Laney | last time I made a cake it was a carrot cake | 16:24 |
| Laney | and was possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever created | 16:24 |
| Laney | I must have misread the scale on the measuring jug or something | 16:24 |
| Laney | *way* too much oil in it | 16:24 |
| willcooke | oh wait a moment | 16:24 |
| willcooke | xnox, | 16:24 |
| Laney | we ended up frying them | 16:24 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:24 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 16:25 |
| willcooke | wb xnox | 16:25 |
| xnox | tah | 16:26 |
| didrocks | climbing on the cake? | 16:26 |
| * didrocks is confused :) | 16:26 | |
| didrocks | terribly confused even | 16:26 |
| willcooke | Laney, fried cake... sounds ok. I could probably eat a fried cake | 16:26 |
| willcooke | thats pretty much a donut | 16:26 |
| didrocks | hum… donut | 16:26 |
| Laney | it wasn't so bad in that form | 16:29 |
| Laney | when it took about 4 hours to bake enough to fry... | 16:30 |
| qengho | Laney: carrot cake needs none of your help to be disgusting. | 16:39 |
| Laney | YOU TAKE THAT BACK | 16:39 |
| qengho | Carrot and coconut and raisins. All ways to ruin perfectly good baked goods. | 16:39 |
| desrt | qengho: +1 on the carrot, but you lost me after that | 16:51 |
| didrocks | willcooke: you got me interested in searching a little bit more recent articles, I see some like http://tuxdiary.com/2015/10/30/ubuntu-make/ | 16:52 |
| * willcooke reads | 16:54 | |
| willcooke | nice! | 16:54 |
| didrocks | there are even some youtube videos on how to install <…> with Ubuntu Make | 16:55 |
| didrocks | funny :) | 16:55 |
| willcooke | awesome! | 16:55 |
| qengho | didrocks: But, how do we install Ubuntu Make?!? | 17:24 |
| didrocks | qengho: all is written on its wiki page :) | 17:25 |
| qengho | I have not installed a web browser yet. | 17:26 |
| didrocks | qengho: you never installed chrome? :p | 17:26 |
| didrocks | that explains! ;) | 17:26 |
| didrocks | (j/k) | 17:26 |
| * qengho brblunch | 17:53 | |
| * didrocks waves good evening and good night | 17:59 | |
| Laney | night didrocks | 17:59 |
| Laney | see you monday! | 17:59 |
| didrocks | Laney: enjoy your long week-end :) | 18:00 |
| Laney | thanks | 18:00 |
| * Laney is off too, going to donate blood | 18:02 | |
| Laney | laters! | 18:02 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| seb128 | Laney, good luck for that and for the baking, have a good w.e! | 18:03 |
| === charles_ is now known as charles | ||
| willcooke | g'night all - gonna be late tomorrow, prolly lunchtimeish | 20:41 |
| === thumper is now known as thumper-afk | ||
| === thumper-afk is now known as thumper | ||
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