didrocksgood morning!05:56
pittiGood morning06:14
hikikogood morning desktopers :D06:37
didrockshey hikiko06:38
hikikomy isp just gave me 10GB mobile internet for free until they fix the problem so that I can use my mobile as a hotspot until they fix the issue :)06:38
hikikohi didrocks :)06:38
seb128good morning desktopers06:42
seb128hey hikiko, re didrocks06:42
didrocksre seb12806:43
hikikohi seb12806:45
pittibonjour seb12807:21
* pitti -> appointment, bbl07:21
seb128pitti, salut pitti, ça va ?07:21
larsugood morning!08:02
didrockshey larsu!08:03
larsubonjour didrocks!08:05
TrevinhoBuon giorno!08:14
larsuhey Trevinho08:16
didrocksmorning Trevinho08:16
seb128hey larsu, wie gehts?08:17
seb128hey Trevinho08:17
larsumorning seb128! good thanks - and you?08:17
TrevinhoHi larsu, didrocks, seb128 ;-)08:19
darkxsthey all08:27
seb128hey darkxst08:35
* Trevinho hates when can't connect to routers...08:40
didrocksinteresting those frameworks which keeps changing their icon path :p08:53
didrocks(great that tests enable us to discover this)08:54
larsuwillcooke: bonjour09:01
didrocksmorning willcooke09:02
seb128hey willcooke Laney09:03
Laneyhey ;-)09:03
Laneya pre hello hey from seb128!09:03
Laneyi think you meant larsu09:03
seb128no, but it was within the minute you usually say hello09:04
larsumorning Laney :)09:04
seb128so I though it was good timing ;-)09:04
larsuseb128 is clever09:04
Laneya cunning young man09:05
Laneysome would say too cunning09:05
Laneyhi larsu!09:05
didrocksmorning Laney09:05
seb128what's going on with autopkgtests, why is there so much backlog?09:08
Laneyhey didrocks09:09
* seb128 looks at pitti09:09
Laneyone of the cloud regions is broken09:10
Laneyso there are 10 less workers than normal09:10
seb128I see09:10
seb128need to to feed more hamsters09:11
Laneystill doesn't seem to have gotten to most of the gtk tests though09:12
Laneythat's been like 1.5 days now09:12
Laneywhich is a bit suspicious09:13
seb128yeah, some are in progress for ages09:13
Laneyand the queue only shrunk by like 60 overnight on xenial/amd6409:13
LaneyI think one problem is that kde tests all do a rebuild from source09:14
Laneydon't know if that explains all this09:14
Laneythere were quite a lot on trusty too because of some kernel uploads09:14
Laneydid you see my request yesterday for some promotions?09:15
seb128yeah, I was still around but not in full work mode09:15
seb128and I'm unsure I feel like promoting things without a MIR09:15
seb128is that "perl sources can be freely promoted" written somewhere?09:15
seb128it feels weird09:16
seb128like why do we need to bother for things like cmake rules or small python wrappers, but perl is ok?09:16
Laneyok, never mind, I'll ask someone else09:17
seb128I'm tempted to just do it for the sake of avoiding work though :p09:17
seb128sorry, ping me again if you don't manage to get a reply for e.g infinity09:17
seb128I'm a bit reluctant but it's not going to take a lot to convince me ;-)09:17
seb128what is pulling those in now btw?09:17
seb128I missed the context09:17
robert_ancellHi all09:19
robert_ancellWriting planning documents feels like going back 10 years in software development...09:19
Laneyhey robert_ancell09:20
seb128hey robert_ancell!09:20
Laneywhat a nice surprise!09:20
seb128how are you? (out of the planning documents writting ;-)09:20
didrockshey robert_ancell!09:20
Laneywhat's the planning document for?09:21
robert_ancellseb128, sore. I spent the evening putting up insulation in my house renovation. Wild times for me!09:21
robert_ancellLaney, GNOME Software09:21
willcookeohai robert_ancell !09:22
didrocksseb128: +1 on being annoyed by those CI downtime without warnings (spent an hour this morning because all machines were on weird state)09:22
* Laney tries didrocks appstream commit09:26
didrocksno fear! :-)09:27
Laneyis using a virtualenv best practice?09:28
didrocksLaney: if you want to control exactly what deps are in, yeah09:29
LaneyI got all the deps from the archive anyway09:29
Laneyso it made me wonder a bit09:29
didrocks(and if you use --site-packages, it's just a portable way to have your binaries installed in a non root dir)09:29
didrocksso I would say it's still the best to do09:29
Laneybecause with setting PYTHONPATH it works directly from the checkout09:29
didrocksbetter than /usr/local/…09:29
Laneybut it's not hard to install it09:29
didrocksyeah, I would still suggest to install it09:29
didrocksin this virtualenv09:30
Laneyunless there is weird path stuff09:30
didrocksLaney: btw, I guess the service isn't scalable with just served by one server, isn't it?09:30
didrockswhat's the plan for that, giving it charmed to IS?09:30
didrocksor handling it in canonistack for some amount of time09:31
Laneylike this https://github.com/ximion/appstream-dep11/blob/master/dep11/generator.py#L38609:31
didrocksand handling replications and such09:31
Laneywhat do you mean?09:31
Laneylaunchpad will just pull the data into the archive09:31
pittiseb128: 'sup?09:31
Laneyusers don't hit it directly really09:31
pittiseb128: oh, the backlog -- well, look at excuses.html :/09:31
seb128pitti, yeah, that's what I'm looking at09:31
didrocksLaney: ah, so one consumer (being launchpad), but still, who will host it?09:31
seb128pitti, things seem to be on "in progress" for days09:32
didrocksLaney: I have some suggestions if it's on canonistack to ensure it's always up :)09:32
pittiseb128: and bos01 died over night, so it didn't make as much progress as it could have09:32
didrocks(even one instance)09:32
Laneyit'll be on prodstack or whatever I guess09:32
didrocksso not us09:32
pittidebci-xenial-amd64 47209:32
Laneycanonistack is no good for a production service09:32
pittidebci-xenial-armhf 3009:32
pittidebci-xenial-i386 25609:32
pittidebci-xenial-ppc64el 809:32
Laneyit's been randomly shut down many times already09:32
didrocksLaney: the path stuff doesn't really shock me TBH09:32
Laneyand only been up for like 1 week09:32
didrocksLaney: it's either using prod data or local checkout one, which is common09:32
pittiseb128: yeah, I know -- we are still heavily underpowered and Monday's KDE landing causes an awful backlog as the tests take very long09:32
didrocksLaney: yeah, that's why if you wanted to use something like kubernetes meanwhile…09:33
didrocks(providing one or multiple pods and keeping them up)09:33
Laneydidrocks: this breaks if it's in the virtualenv though no?09:33
Laneybecause ".." won't be what it wants it to be09:33
didrocksLaney: yeah, wierd that it worked, though, right?09:34
LaneyI don't know that it did09:34
Laneybecause of the bug you fixed it never ran09:34
Laneyso would have found this later on09:34
seb128pitti, I see, would be nice to have some smart logic to not let big jobs DoS the infra and take all the builders, blocking the small/easy ones09:34
seb128oh well09:34
seb128no hurry, let's wait09:34
didrocksLaney: I told you I tried it in a virtualenv on the machine, no?09:34
Laneydid you look at the output?09:34
pittiseb128: believe me, I'm harrassing IS regularly about getting moar powah :/ I know it sucks09:35
didrocksyep, it generated some new content, but I didn't look in detail (there was some warning, but similar to the one you had with your global run IIRC)09:35
LaneyI guess the system fallback would have worked09:35
* Laney removes the package ;-)09:36
didrocksif you installed it :p09:36
didrocksthe best practice is first to factorize that in a get_template_dir()09:36
didrocksand have the logic poking here09:36
pittiseb128: so KDE and lots of other xenial packages plus new kernels in all stables (which also trigger several hundred tests each), plus little capacity -> I don't think reordering gains us that much there09:36
Laneyhow do you get the root directory of the virtualenv?09:36
pittiseb128: is there a package that's particularly pressing? we can hint it09:37
didrocksLaney: $VIRTUAL_ENV09:37
didrocksisn't it? :p09:38
didrocksLaney: want some help or you are handling the patch?09:38
Laneyas you wish09:39
seb128pitti, no, it's ok, mostly mir and gtk+ but they are not that urgent09:39
Laneythere are some other cases e.g. dep11-hints.yml09:39
didrocksLaney: can handle a small refactoring of this if you wish09:40
seb128pitti, btw, other topic ... could we have a cron job for xenial langpacks updates?09:41
pittiseb128: oh, do we have exports now? sure!09:41
* seb128 wants his new gedit translated :p09:41
pitti(I need to build the first one by hand, but that's simple)09:41
pittihttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+language-packs :(09:41
seb128pitti, unsure, but translations are open09:41
pitti-> #u-devel09:41
willcookeseb128, did you see that Yorba went under? :(09:50
seb128willcooke, no, I didn't see, but I assumed they did since none of the projects are active and we didn't get a reply for the shotwell key issue since june09:51
seb128where did you read that?09:51
davmor2willcooke: aren't they the guys that do shotwell09:51
willcookeseb128, G+09:51
willcookedavmor2, exactly09:51
willcookeso worth having a quick discussion about Shotwell?  I mean, nothing has changed for ages, so we could keep it and not expect any serious breakage.  But might be worth thinking about a change of app?09:52
willcookepopey, ^^09:52
davmor2time to re-evaluate gphoto maybe09:52
larsusad for them09:54
larsubut yeah, kind of expected09:54
seb128davmor2, gnome-photos I guess you mean?09:59
seb128we could, but changing in a LTS cycle...09:59
seb128and it's new GNOME style which doesn't fit well with our desktop09:59
seb128where shotwell is  desktop style09:59
davmor2seb128: yeah thought it was gphoto but yes the gnome photos app10:00
seb128old school desktop*10:00
willcookeseb128, agreed.  Sounds like a job for LTS+1 (to consider the alternatives)10:00
seb128also gnome-photos might depends on tracker or things we are not currently using (though I didn't look at it at all)10:00
Laneylast I heard gnome photos didn't do importing from digital cameras yet10:00
seb128willcooke, yeah, also let's see if somebody picks shotwell up10:00
darkxstseb128, yes, I suspect gnome-photos uses tracker10:00
Laneyor any photo editing10:00
davmor2willcooke: well by then we'll be unity8 based and have gallery right ;)10:01
willcookedavmor2, it's a possibility10:02
seb128I doubt it10:05
seb128they were talking about deprecating gallery10:05
seb128the camera app is having most of the features10:06
popeyGallery - Written by Yorba10:09
Laneydidrocks: huh, I forgot to reply to you?10:10
Laneydidrocks: feel free to handle it if you are willing :)10:10
didrocksLaney: yeah, I was waiting for you to be back on that :)10:12
didrocksLaney: ok, will do that this afternoon10:12
seb128willcooke, do you have an url to that g+ post?10:12
didrocksseems ptyprocess needs a MIR10:12
seb128just curious, I'm probably not subscribed to the same people you are10:13
Laneydidrocks: I at least typed something, must have deleted it :P10:13
Laneywhat is pytprocess?10:13
willcookeseb128, sure, one sec....10:13
didrocksLaney: something used by pexpect to handle virtual shells10:13
* Laney closes that tab forever10:16
* robert_ancell -> sleep10:34
willcookesee you robert_ancell10:34
robert_ancellbye all10:34
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pittiseb128, Laney: ok, 45 mins with IS later I now have lcy01 and 8 extra workers back; let's see how long they'll hold :)10:56
Laneypitti: good luck11:01
LaneyI noticed they re-enabled some builders there which all died again11:01
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Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/builders <- lcy01-* Cleaning11:01
pittiLaney: yes, axino said he'd try to restart those and monitor11:03
Laneypitti: I mean that as a sign that it still wasn't stable at least earlier this morning11:04
pitti11:54:58 axino | pitti: when they're all disabled, lcy01 tends to be stable11:04
Laneyalthough maybe it is those that bring down the cloud and not the cloud itself being bad11:04
pitti"they" -> lcy01 buildds11:04
Laneywhat's the interesting difference between this and lgw01 that makes lgw01 reliable?11:05
pittiLaney: I have no idea11:11
Laneysort of rhetorical :)11:12
* Laney is tail -f log/lcy*.log11:13
pittiLaney: as long as you don't see "ERROR"s in nova list, things should be okay11:13
pittiman, one of these days I need to figure out why some tests use the ugly instance names11:14
pittiseems the --name option doesn't get passed along properly in one case11:14
darkxstLaney, can you add gnome-builder to desktop-extra?11:17
Laneydarkxst: if you mail devel-permissions11:18
darkxstLaney, kk11:19
Laneybut aren't you getting that fixed in debian?11:19
Laneyi.e. autosync11:19
darkxstLaney, yes, I am pushing the fixes through debian11:22
darkxstbut its kinda crap when I have to wait on debian to fix FTBS etc11:23
darkxst(ones that only affect us)11:24
Laneyget some sponsored uploads11:24
Laneythen you can become DM11:24
darkxstLaney, who is going to sign my key?11:25
Laneyone of these kind people https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers#AU11:27
darkxstLaney, or I just come to the debian hackfest, if CC will sponsor it ;)11:29
darkxst^ insert pkg-gnome11:30
Laneywhen is that?11:31
darkxstno date set yet11:32
Laneywhich mailing list?11:34
Laneydon't see one11:34
Laneyjust some irc the other day11:34
darkxstLaney, only irc, but it will happen sooner or later11:35
darkxstunless its like the git migration, that doesnt want to happen11:36
Laneythat's one reason to have a sprint11:37
darkxstbut then also must be a reason we don't have branches on alioth either ;)11:39
Laneythe script is the hard part11:41
Laneyask tumbleweed11:41
darkxstLaney, I was alluding to the point that it should in theory be really simple to create packaging branches for ubuntu GNOME/gnome3 ppa's, but it still hasnt happened11:48
Laneyoh right11:48
Laneyit's going to be cool to be able to git merge11:49
* Laney does this for gstreamer already and it is g-r-e-a-t11:49
darkxstI already git merge everything, but major hacky, since not merging real commits11:49
darkxstworks pretty well though, apart from the fact you have to resolve all conflicts before commiting11:53
Laneyare you using rerere?11:55
darkxstgbp and a custom script that pulls in bzr packaging branches if available11:55
* darkxst really should sleep now, I meant to do that an hour ago11:59
Laneylxc -> xenial11:59
* Laney looks at dbus merge now11:59
* Laney loses utf8 sbuild on desktop too now :(12:23
seb128Laney, utf8 sbuild?12:38
Laneyyeah it had nice output12:39
Laneynow it's all ascii12:39
Laneyhardly a big deal :P12:42
seb128oh, nice, gnome-desktop3 migrated, seems like autopkgtest backlog is getting smaller ;-)12:43
Laneygtk got some green too12:43
seb128larsu, are you looking at the nautilus menubar thing or not yet? I'm trying to decide what I should do with the nautilus update, wait a bit/upload without menubar to start/...12:47
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didrocksso, they cancel the light festival in Lyon…12:52
seb128they do?!12:53
seb128it's well in advance12:53
didrockswell, it's in less than a month12:53
didrockslike 2 weeks and a day12:54
didrocksso not that much in advance12:54
didrocks(on the contrary even, hotels are booked in general 6 months in advance)12:54
larsuseb128: does tomorrow work for you?12:54
seb128larsu, next week work as well, I just want an estimate if it's worth waiting or better to go without and do that later12:55
larsuseb128: ok. I'll do it tomorrow :)12:55
seb128larsu, danke12:56
seb128didrocks, right, I guess my comment was rather "it's probably not reacting to a particular plot they found but just being cautious/not wanting to risk it because it's difficult to secure a such event"12:56
didrocksseb128: yeah, basically they fear that some noise of explosion due to anything create panicks12:57
seb128pitti is going to need to come to your place again next year then!12:57
pittien effect !12:57
Laneybut the stollen!12:57
seb128double stollen!12:58
seb128one this year, one next :p12:58
pittinon, je vais toujour venir !12:58
seb128tu as raison12:58
* didrocks hugs pitti13:01
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ricotzattente, hi, is thr13:14
ricotzattente, hi, is there a current patch-set of mir for gtk+ git master?13:15
attentericotz: for the ubuntu package? because it should be up-to-date as it hasn't had any activity in a while13:17
ricotzattente, I mean gtk+ git master doesnt compile against mir in xenial13:17
attentericotz: i'll take a look13:18
ricotz./gdk/mir/gdkmir-debug.c:106:36: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mir_touch_event_get_cookie' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]13:19
attentericotz: you'll probably have to build against mir trunk because that's new api13:21
seb128Laney, pitti, can you help me to understand http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ldb ? why aren't armhf/ppc64el trying for the current version?13:22
ricotzattente, hmm, I see13:22
pittiLaney, seb128: bug 1512779 -- ATM these need to be retried manually, sorry13:22
ubot5bug 1512779 in Auto Package Testing "Failing tests are not re-triggered when package with failures is re-uploaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151277913:22
desrtgood morning, fellow desktoply -inclined people13:22
seb128hey desrt!13:23
Laneyurgh, look at the wrapping in that bug13:23
pittiseb128: let me retry all armhf/ppc64 failures wholesale, the qeueus are emtpy13:23
seb128pitti, danke13:23
attentericotz: you can also just delete the line since it's just there for debugging purposes13:23
pittiwell, not "empty", but "short"13:23
Laneynote to self: never hard wrap when writing launchpad comments in the web UI13:23
attentericotz: but afaik, it won't behave any differently than what's in the archive for xenial13:24
seb128Laney, nag the launchpad team to have them to display a wrapping line in the ui so if you want to do it manually you know where ;-)13:24
LaneyI probably used vimperator and vipgq it13:25
ricotzattente, alright, will do that13:25
* Laney does some rebuilds for liburcu13:25
Laneyit'll be annoying if things get blocked on this transition after the tests run :P13:26
Laneypitti: "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" - erm?13:27
Laneyfailure just now13:28
pittioh, bos01-ppc64el-913:28
pittiMem:       2050048    1912936     137112       1280     328800     62491213:28
pittidoesn't seem terrible13:28
pittierk, wrong machine13:29
pittiMem:       2050048    1975464      74584       1228       7524      8409613:29
Laneyisn't that from the cloud worker?13:29
pittiLaney: yes, it is13:29
* pitti shrugs, let's see if it happens on more workers13:30
pittilcy01 is still up -- scary!13:30
pittiit really seems it's the buildds OR autopkgtest, there's no AND there13:30
* Laney restarted it13:31
Laneycosmic rays13:32
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seb128kenvandine, hey, we still get error reports for the unity-webapps-* migration scripts, didn't you put a landing up to drop those previous cycle?13:49
kenvandineseb128, i did, not sure if they landed13:50
* kenvandine checks13:50
kenvandineseb128, yes, silo 3813:52
kenvandinethe branches are still awaiting review13:52
seb128kenvandine, can you nag someone?13:52
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Laneyseb128: can you look at NEW for ltt-control please?14:01
LaneyI fake synced it from git, will block liburcu, mir, etc14:01
seb128Laney, ok14:01
* Laney lunch14:03
seb128Laney, done14:03
seb128Laney, enjoy!14:03
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desrtgoogle impresses me14:22
desrtthey actually managed to make google+ _more_ difficult to use14:22
larsuoh true this looks different14:23
larsumorning desrt14:23
desrtg' morning14:23
seb128less easy to read :-/14:25
desrtalso less easy to do anything at all14:25
desrt...and it was pretty bad to begin with14:25
seb128I'm not doing much with it out of browser through posts and reading sometimes comments14:25
larsudon't use it?14:25
mdeslaurI gather their goal is to make everyone leave before they shut it down14:25
desrtthat's sort of the impression i got14:26
desrtpeople will be less upset that way14:26
desrtunfortunately, google+/hangouts use is more or less mandatory for ingress operations :(14:27
larsu"unfortunately" :P14:28
desrti totally geeked out on the social aspects of this game14:28
desrtwhich unfortunately has dragged me into a world of G+ pain14:29
larsuisn't it just the account you need?14:29
desrttechnically you don't need a G+ account at all -- just google login14:31
desrtbut again, all the social aspects...14:31
desrtany kind of non-boring high-level play involves a fairly large amount of groupwork14:31
desrta bit of it is kinda implicit "i see my team happens to be holding this territory, i'll help out" type stuff... but anything beyond that requires coordination14:33
desrtand since it's all hooked into the "G" ecosystem, this is the platform of choice for everything... G+ and hangouts14:33
larsumakes sense14:34
larsueveryone has a google account by definition14:34
larsudoesn't make sense to have another one14:34
desrtand it's just one simple click to "upgrade" to G+!14:35
* Sweet5hark is back from berlin.14:47
Sweet5harkTwas awesome.14:47
qenghoSweet5hark: what was in Berlin?14:52
Sweet5harkqengho: 2. open it summit by the greens and OSBA. lots of members of parliament asking how they can help open source/open data/etc.14:54
pittiLaney: lgw workers dying> looks like orphaned instances, I'm cleaning up and restart14:59
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willcookedidrocks, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/ubuntu-15-10-review-wily-werewolf-leaves-scary-experimentation-for-next-year/15:35
willcookedidrocks, "If you're looking for a quick way to get, for example, a basic Android development environment setup, you'd be hard pressed to beat Ubuntu Make's simple umake android command."15:36
seb128didrocks, well done!15:39
didrocksthx ;)15:41
didrockshappy that it's started to get noticed by the press15:41
didrocks(while I'm fighting pokfdpokfspodkfpods proxy on jenkins… not allowing me to access to localhost)15:41
willcookeerm, maybe larsu or seb128 - will we get the Google Drive integration from GNOME apps in 16.04?16:00
seb128willcooke, yes, the current gvfs has a backend for it16:01
seb128though unsure if that needs online account integration/is going to work with uoa16:02
seb128also somebody needs to merge gvfs with Debian16:02
larsuI think it does16:02
seb128but xnox just put his name on that by doing a rebuild ;-)16:02
larsuwelcome back xnox16:03
Laneyswap with me for mdadm16:03
* Laney doesn't mind doing gvfs16:03
Laneybut I definitely do mind merging mdadm16:03
xnoxLaney, deal16:03
seb128Laney, xnox, thanks16:08
willcookedesktoppers:  I'm going to swap some hours tomorrow morning.  I'll be back around lunchtime.  Telegram if you need anything16:13
Laneysudo make me a sandwich16:13
willcookeI'll go to subway, buy you a sandwich and put it in the pist16:16
willcookeno, wait, better idea16:16
xnoxwillcooke, justeat.co.uk do delivery might be easier to order it like that.16:19
LaneyI'm off tomorrow, so I could be anywhere16:20
Laneydrone delivery ought to be fine16:20
Laneyas long as it's not delivering a hellfire missile16:20
seb128Laney, oh, enjoy the long w.e!16:22
Laneythis is one of the three days I had to use up :P16:22
* seb128 should look at the team calendar once a week16:23
seb128willcooke missed that one on the monday summary ;-)16:23
Laneynah, I booked it on monday16:23
seb128ah, ok16:23
seb128any plan for the day?16:23
Laneybake a cake for rosie's birthday16:23
seb128ah, nice16:23
LaneyI want to make one of those rainbow cakes16:23
willcookeyeah, I was thinking about that,  perhaps move the email later in the day, or even to Tuesday16:23
Laneythey are cool16:23
seb128take a picture for us :-)16:23
Laneyand then climbing16:23
Laneylast time I made a cake it was a carrot cake16:24
Laneyand was possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever created16:24
LaneyI must have misread the scale on the measuring jug or something16:24
Laney*way* too much oil in it16:24
willcookeoh wait a moment16:24
Laneywe ended up frying them16:24
willcookewb xnox16:25
didrocksclimbing on the cake?16:26
* didrocks is confused :)16:26
didrocksterribly confused even16:26
willcookeLaney, fried cake... sounds ok.  I could probably eat a fried cake16:26
willcookethats pretty much a donut16:26
didrockshum… donut16:26
Laneyit wasn't so bad in that form16:29
Laneywhen it took about 4 hours to bake enough to fry...16:30
qenghoLaney: carrot cake needs none of your help to be disgusting.16:39
qenghoCarrot and coconut and raisins. All ways to ruin perfectly good baked goods.16:39
desrtqengho: +1 on the carrot, but you lost me after that16:51
didrockswillcooke: you got me interested in searching a little bit more recent articles, I see some like http://tuxdiary.com/2015/10/30/ubuntu-make/16:52
* willcooke reads16:54
didrocksthere are even some youtube videos on how to install <…> with Ubuntu Make16:55
didrocksfunny :)16:55
qenghodidrocks: But, how do we install Ubuntu Make?!?17:24
didrocksqengho: all is written on its wiki page :)17:25
qenghoI have not installed a web browser yet.17:26
didrocksqengho: you never installed chrome? :p17:26
didrocksthat explains! ;)17:26
* qengho brblunch17:53
* didrocks waves good evening and good night17:59
Laneynight didrocks17:59
Laneysee you monday!17:59
didrocksLaney: enjoy your long week-end :)18:00
* Laney is off too, going to donate blood18:02
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seb128Laney, good luck for that and for the baking, have a good w.e!18:03
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willcookeg'night all - gonna be late tomorrow, prolly lunchtimeish20:41
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