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robru /o/16:00
* slangasek waves16:01
infinityDid mumble just explode for anyone else, or am I special?16:01
cyphermoxyou're special16:01
slangasekyou are special!16:02
infinityYay me.16:02
barrywhy is that an either-or?16:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov 19 16:02:21 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:02
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:03
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox)16:04
slangasekcyphermox doko robru infinity caribou slangasek barry tdaitx pitti xnox sil2100 bdmurray16:04
cyphermox - more ubiquity prototyping for kernel signature enforcing.16:04
cyphermox - discussed prototype with design team for feedback16:04
cyphermox - ipmitool SRUs for bug LP: #1509896 (vivid, wily)16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1509896 in ipmitool (Ubuntu Wily) "IPMI USB SCSI endpoint discovery can fail on OpenPower machines" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150989616:04
cyphermox - grub2 ofdisk/sas disk detection fix for bug LP: #151758616:04
cyphermox   - xenial and SRUs.16:04
cyphermox - continuing on netcfg work (bug LP: #1452202)16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1517586 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "can't boot to disk from netboot on power8" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151758616:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1452202 in netcfg (Ubuntu) "ubuntu preseed install fails to set a hostname" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145220216:04
cyphermox- also back on that lvm cyclic dependency issue.16:04
cyphermox - fixed update bug in sbuild-launchpad-chroot.16:04
cyphermox♚ ♜16:04
pittiis that a checkmate?16:05
cyphermox^ obligatory end transmission UTF characters.16:05
infinitypitti: No, it's romance.16:05
infinityForbidden love.16:05
bdmurraycyphermox: is the lvm issue that upgrade bug?16:05
cyphermoxbdmurray: yes!16:05
* sil2100 starts browsing the UTF character table16:05
pittiking and castle could both beat each other, veery romantic :)16:06
robruno doko?16:06
infinityHe's probably too busy abusing xnox on mumble.16:06
xnoxhe was trolling my uploads in private message a minute ago...16:06
doko- addressing binutils regressions on s390x and ppc64el16:06
doko- ISL 0.15 transition (ongoing, involving gcc backports, gcc-* uploads)16:06
doko- review and upload openjdk-6 and openjdk-7 packages16:06
doko- merges16:06
robru- Force xenial in xenial+vivid to main archive.16:07
robru- Total overhaul of the way train monitors and reports silo statuses16:07
robru- Permanently disable jenkins CLI due to security vulnerability.16:07
robru- minor display tweaks to match new status format16:07
robru- experiments with autopkgtests in silos and enabling britney but nothing conclusive yet16:07
infinityBrain melty sort of week, with vague updates to match:16:07
infinity- s390x stuff16:07
infinity- kernely things16:07
infinity- argued with glibc a bit16:07
infinity- AA misc16:07
infinity- SRU whatsits16:07
caribouBugfix :16:07
caribou- Precise SAN/LVM boot hang16:07
caribou  LP: #1506550 - quassel sound bug16:07
caribou  LP: #1496317 - kdump OOM killer failure16:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1506550 in quassel (Ubuntu) "quassel can't play audio notifications in wily" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150655016:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1496317 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "kexec fails with OOM killer with the current crashkernel=128 value" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149631716:08
caribouSosreport autopkgtests & packaging16:08
slangasek * merges16:09
slangasek * s390x bootstrapping16:09
slangasek * worked through bug in udevd SIGBUSing on the phones (bug #1512323)16:09
slangasek * worked around a binutils hang that was causing util-linux to FTBFS on ppc64el (bug #1516444)16:09
slangasek * secureboot installer design discussions16:09
ubottubug 1512323 in android (Ubuntu) "devices on devel-proposed/ubuntu do not boot with systemd 227-2ubuntu1" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151232316:09
ubottubug 1516444 in binutils (Ubuntu) "ld hangs indefinitely statically linking binutils on ppc64el" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151644416:09
barrydebuntu: fades 4-1 (review, sponsor); LP: #1516688 (submitted upstream, have yet to hear back from maintainers); LP: #1440375 (mp submitted); pycurl and; python-webob 1.5.1-116:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1516688 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "Port to Python 3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151668816:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1440375 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf-common should use python3 by default" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144037516:10
barrysi: LP: #1386302; LP: #1380678 (for si 3.1)16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1386302 in Ubuntu system image "Provide ability to specify a target system image revision" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138630216:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1380678 in Ubuntu system image "Remove deprecated D-Bus method .Info()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138067816:10
barryvarious reviews of various system-image server, ubuntu-release-upgrader branches; other python help here and there16:10
tdaitx - IcedTea 6b37 1.13.9 and 7u91 2.6.3 released on Friday (2015-11-13); couldn't get a Xenial LXC running, reverted to schroot; packaged both on my PPA; thanks doko for reviewing them =)16:10
tdaitx - Provided OpenJDK 7u91 2.6.3 packages for the security team (new update for Wily and backports for Vivid, Trusty, and Precise)16:10
tdaitx - Provided Wily backport for libcommons-collections3-apache to security team (LP: #1514985)16:10
tdaitx - Looking into arm+powerpc build failures in OpenJDK 8 & 916:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1514985 in libcommons-collections4-java (Ubuntu) "Arbitrary remote code execution with InvokerTransformer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151498516:10
tdaitxNext steps16:10
tdaitx - provide OpenJDK 6b37 1.13.9 packages for the security team16:10
tdaitx - continue working on TCK packaging and charms16:10
tdaitx - work on joda-time and freeipmi merges, then move to squid316:10
tdaitx - verify OpenJDK 6 TLS patch (LP: #1482924)16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1482924 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "Regressions due to USN-2696-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148292416:10
tdaitxWaiting/On hold16:10
tdaitx - waiting OCA to submit webrevs for 7093640 backport (set TLS 1.1 as default for JDK 6 and TLS 1.2 as default for JDK 7); not blocking anything for now, just waiting16:10
pitti== autopkgtest ==16:10
pitti - Detect temporary DNS failures and auto-retry on those16:11
pitti - Counteract livecd-rootfs hack from LP #1510345 harder to unbreak local QEMU images16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1510345 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Cloud Images do not bring up networking w/ certain virtual NICs due to device naming rules" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151034516:11
pitti - Hotfix regression from cloud-init change (#1177432) that caused the wrong source versions to be downloaded (#1517426)16:11
pitti - Some smaller bug fixes16:11
pitti - Create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/LocalSetup and scripts to initialize britney, mostly for robru's train integration16:11
pitti - about a full day's worth of autopkgtest infrastructure maintenance16:11
pitti - In progress: Integrate http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html prototype into debci, make it more useful and robust16:11
pitti== systemd ==16:11
pitti - Fix autopkgtest failures on ppc64el and in LXC (armhf), file console-setup bug (#1516591)16:11
pitti - Fix race condition in resolvconf integration16:11
pitti - Greatly improve networkd tests; plan: land them upstream and running them on every pull request in semaphore16:11
pitti - Fix build on arm, forward slangasek's siphash alignment patch upstream and complete it (#1512323)16:11
pitti - investigate various regressions in upstream master, QA the 228 release, package it16:11
pitti - Improve some of our autopkgtest cases16:11
pitti== misc ==16:11
pitti - meeting about test machines for ubiquity/upgrade tests (aiming at nested QEMU in Scalingstack)16:11
pitti - make some experiments for the above; works good enough for autopkgtests, but ubiquity ISO tests are currently failing in Scalingstack (works fine locally)16:11
cyphermoxpitti: ubiquity tests, yay16:11
xnox* back from vacation16:12
xnox* configured irc, ssh, vpn, etc.16:12
xnox* uploaded a few merges / sync16:12
xnox* replied to a bunch of emails16:12
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails16:12
sil2100- RTM Status meetings16:12
sil2100- OTA-8: * Preparing manual re-spins in the rc channel, prepping snapshots, tagging images * Preparing release notes and commitlogs * Emergency langpack re-spin madness a day before release16:12
sil2100- system-image: * Deploying new image tag functionality, final live testing * Investigating bugs in delta handling * Some additional work on the testability branch16:12
sil2100- +1-maintenance: * Preparing sync request for jansson16:12
sil2100- Modifying snapshotting script to consider changes in the main archive (for OTA hotfixes)16:12
sil2100- Preparing miniature script for safe image copies during touch image promotion16:12
sil2100- Started work on modifying the auto-phasing scripts16:13
sil2100- Help in resolving packaging issues for trust-store and platform-api16:13
sil2100- Preliminary packaging review of the new gmenuharness package16:13
sil2100- Prepare for re-try on core-dev16:13
sil2100(the scissors mark the end, just so you know)16:13
bdmurrayresearch into quantity of crashes from the stable channel before and after apport change16:13
bdmurrayupdated /tested apport on production retracers16:13
bdmurrayuploaded backport of xenial gdb to daisy pluckers PPA16:13
bdmurrayremove a systemd SAS from a bucket to see if it will retrace better w/ new apport version                                                                   tested retracing of systemd crashes16:13
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have gdb updated on the retracers16:13
bdmurrayworked with thomi regarding a xorg retrace failure16:13
bdmurrayreported apport bug regarding using crash's version of gdb16:13
bdmurraySRU verification of whoopsie bug LP: #138223316:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1382233 in whoopsie (Ubuntu Wily) "whoopsie does not upload UnreportableReason field in crash reports" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138223316:13
bdmurrayinvestigated martin's idea of using has_useful_stacktrace() from apport16:13
bdmurraywrote a test for and fixed ubuntu-release-upgrader bug LP: #151178316:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1511783 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release upgrader can create a too minimal sources.list" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151178316:13
bdmurrayuploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader fixing LP: #1463680 and #151178316:13
bdmurrayinvestigation into merge-o-matic bug LP: #120214216:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1463680 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "mirrors only added to mirrors.cfg, never removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146368016:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1202142 in Merge-o-Matic "Blind to new development release -proposed pocket" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120214216:13
bdmurrayreviewed arges's sru-review merge proposal16:13
bdmurray✔ done16:13
slangasekany questions?16:14
pittiOOI, what's the status of s390?16:14
pittiI thought infinity was rather close to debootstrapability?16:15
infinityBasically pending the hardware setup being complete for launchpaddification.16:15
infinityIt's debootstrappable, plus lots of other misc stuff built.16:15
slangasekwe have a minbase debootstrappable stage0 archive.  infinity, how's stage1 looking?16:15
infinitystage1 will be building itself today.16:15
infinityThat's my whole day.16:15
pittithat sounds like great progress16:15
cyphermoxslangasek: looks like we've filled the s390x position?16:15
pitticyphermox: it's spelt "s390xnox"16:16
slangasekon the hardware setup side there was another delay this week, which IS and our unofficial in-house zSeries experts are now working to resolve but I have no eta16:16
cyphermoxpitti: jes16:16
slangasekcyphermox: yes16:16
cyphermoxxnox: that's a good point, you should /nick ;)16:16
cariboushouldn't it be Znox ?16:17
pittithanks for the heads-up16:17
slangasekwouldn't s390x-no-x reduce to s390?  We don't support that16:17
cyphermoxwell, are we even planning to ever run X on it?16:17
xnoxMir all the way.16:17
infinitycyphermox: Runs X fine.16:18
infinityClients, that is. ;)16:18
cyphermoxinfinity: modulo no screen?16:18
infinityNot so much the server bit.  Cause, yeah.16:18
infinityWell, I suppose server via VNC and the like.16:18
sil2100cyphermox: will you mind if I pick up the network-manager-pptp merge?16:19
cyphermoxsil2100: knock yourself out :)16:19
sil2100cyphermox: \o/16:19
cyphermoxmight even be a sync16:20
pittioh, speaking of NM: any plans ot update to the latest stable microrelease? that fixes that weird "too small wifi MTU" bug which plagued us at the sprint16:20
pitti(and I also see that here)16:20
tdaitxs390 display is probably a punch card, refresh rate about 0.1 Hz16:20
pitti(NM> IOW, debian merge)16:20
infinitytdaitx: Don't be silly.  It's vacuum bulbs.  The punch card is the mouse.16:20
cyphermoxpitti: eventually, it's not my top priority.16:21
infinityAlso, it occasionally makes satisfyinf sci-fi bloops and bleeps that don't logically map to any function of the system.16:21
cyphermoxinfinity: blinkenlights?16:21
infinitycyphermox: In response to gerfingerpoken, yes.16:22
slangasekbut does it have a /dev/theramin16:22
pittithe bleeps, the sweeps, and the creeps?16:22
infinityAhh, we're such professionals.16:23
slangasekso then!16:23
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:23
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slangasekanything else?16:23
slangaseknext week is Thanksgivin16:24
infinityThat was last month.16:24
tdaitxwelcome (back?) xnox!16:24
slangasekso US folks will be off16:24
xnoxtdaitx, si.16:24
slangasekshall I leave the meeting on the calendar for everyone else?16:25
slangasek(volunteer to chair?)16:25
sil2100Now that xnox is back in the team, I need to think of a way to bribe him as well16:25
infinityI have no interest in a meeting with half the team.16:25
cyphermoxsil2100: feel free to take any of the other network-manager-$vpn packages for merging/sync too, if you want16:25
sil2100For the nearest DMB meeting16:25
pittislangasek: sure16:25
infinityUnless someone else thinks it's super helpful.16:25
pittiwhom do you trust your mighty "echo $(shuf)" baton?16:25
sil2100cyphermox: sure, will look if it'll end up as a merge or sync, jansson ended up as a sync so yay16:25
infinitypitti: I feel like you just volunteered.16:26
slangasekinfinity: a whole 2/3 actually!16:26
tdaitxI will be out between Nov 26 and Dec 0116:26
infinityslangasek: Minus tdaitx. :P16:26
slangasek#agreed pitti to chair team meeting next week16:27
infinityOh, I will be out "some days" the week after Thanksgiving as well, but the precise amount of outness is still in dispute.16:27
cyphermoxoh, winter tires on nov 2616:27
cyphermoxbut no bloodletting, and not during work hours ;P16:27
tdaitxpitti, good luck trying to control this mob =)16:28
dokocan we organize a some bits of merges, with the foundations team as the owner?16:28
pittitdaitx: I've known this bunch for years, no way16:28
tdaitxpitti, shuffle them hard16:28
infinitypitti: We're perfect angels.  *bat lashes*16:28
slangasekdoko: what exactly do you have in mind?16:28
slangasekmost of the oldest merges are installer-related... which is typical16:29
infinitydoko: Specific ones that concern you, or just knocking off old/forgotten merges in general?16:29
dokoslangasek, looking at oldish merges where the uploader isn't active, for whatever reason16:29
cyphermoxwhich I'll get to.16:29
* sil2100 will working on merges now as well, since his OTA-8 is out of the way16:29
dokono, not specific ones, just thinking that we should actively address these (and I know I have lots of outstanding merges too)16:30
slangasekdoko: right; the oldest [foundations-bugs] ones on https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html are installer, which are on cyphermox's todo list.  afterwards there's lsb which we saved for xnox16:30
infinityLooks like most of the oldest have familiar and active names attached to them but, yeah, we should hit some of those.16:30
infinityThat grub1 merge scares me a bit.16:31
slangaseknah skip grub116:31
cyphermoxgrub legacy is around for the fool who will try it... otherwise I'll be that fool after installer bits.16:31
slangasekit never needs to be merged again, it just needs to be fully removed16:31
cyphermoxwoops ;)16:31
xnoxinfinity, last time i spoke with cjwatson - i think it's time to force upgrade to grub2 and see what happens.16:31
xnoxor not do anything, and simply drop grub1 package and wait.16:31
slangasekthere's no longer a xen-pv use case for grub116:32
infinityI'm TIL on a few things I don't remember Ting, I'll hit some of those next week after s390x stage1 is in a happy place.16:32
xnoxamazon ec2 uses a fork too, no? (grub-something-rather)16:32
slangasekdoes anyone here have any merges they're TIL on that they specifically want to offer up to the team?16:32
slangaseklooks like open-isci is up for grabs from pitti16:33
pittilvm2 too16:33
infinityAs a general rule, if I'm TIL because of a 1-line (or, rather, trivial) bugfix, I don't mind it being stolen.16:33
pitti(I'm happy to trade, of course)16:33
infinityIf I'm TIL because half the changelog is me, I'd prefer to keep it.16:33
dokowell, I'm not eager on all my merges ...  and still haven't even looked at universe16:33
slangasekinfinity: knowing it's a 1-line fix requires looking more deeply than at merges.u.c :)16:33
dokoand one more thing is to address the ruby defaults change, and then following up on that (so maybe pitti could do that, or server team, kirkland, and rbasak?)16:34
cyphermoxNM is free to merge for anyone who dares :)16:34
pittiwe have a package "nosexcover"..16:34
slangasekinfinity: maybe you're not attached to datefudge, as an example?  You might be more partial to walnut fudge16:34
infinityslangasek: I don't even remember Ting datefudge L.16:34
slangasek  * Use DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE for cross-builds, not DEB_HOST_ARCH.16:34
infinityOh, cross.  Bah.16:35
infinityThat can't be the only change, though.  It's 3 ubuntu revisions deep.16:35
xnox0day nmu it + sync16:35
infinityYeah, someone should sort that delta with Debian, probably.16:35
pittidoko: ah, I suppose we want to follow suit with ruby 2.2, so yes, I can merge that16:35
infinity  * Cleanup makefiles a bit and add support for cross-compiling.16:36
infinityAnd it's possible Debian's got the bits.16:36
dokoseriously, how many people are now looking at datefudge? ...16:36
infinityALL OF US.16:36
infinityPerhaps we should end the meeting. :P16:37
barryi was hoping to make some datefudge for thanksgiving16:37
slangasekanyway, what's a realistic target for merges?16:37
slangasekcan we get everything > 365 days that's in main and foundations, off the list by EOY?16:38
xnox350 main outstanding -> 1y?16:38
infinityslangasek: Everything but d-i, perhaps.16:38
xnoxlet's not go too hard on di et.al.16:38
slangasekif cyphermox is going to merge d-i, that ought to happen sooner rather than later this cycle16:38
cyphermoxwell, I'll certainly *start* on a few of them16:39
infinityYeah, he and I have talked about it.  We'd like to, but I'm also not holding my breath.16:39
xnoxthere was inprogress d-i merge at some point in the past, no?16:39
infinityxnox: Not really, no.16:39
cyphermoxwhen we say d-i we mean all the d-i components but d-i itself16:39
infinityxnox: It stalled when Colin insisted he wanted to keep all the bzr history in a bzr->git conversion + merge.16:39
infinitycyphermox: No, I mean d-i. ;)16:39
infinitycyphermox: All the components should absolutely be merged.16:40
slangasekdid that bzr->git conversion get done?16:40
cyphermoxinfinity: agreed16:40
infinityslangasek: Nein.  And unless Colin's going to volunteer to do the work, I think I'm going to give up on caring about history soon and just do a shallow merge (which is actually close to trivial) and reset in a fresh git tree.16:40
slangasekthose who do not save their history are doomed to something something16:41
slangasekbut ok16:41
infinityslangasek: Doomed to not read 400 nearly identical commits?16:41
slangasekinfinity: doomed to not be able to find the rationale of the original commit16:41
infinityI have no intention of deleting the bzr branches. :P16:41
infinityBut we'll see.16:41
cyphermoxit just needs someone who understands repo surgery16:42
slangasekoh I assumed the launchpad team would vaporize those from orbit16:42
infinityI think Colin still wants to DTRT, and he's much more skilled at doing insane conversions.16:42
slangasekenough of this16:42
slangasekshall we end? :)16:42
pittithanks everyone!16:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Nov 19 16:42:59 2015 UTC.16:42
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slangasekthanks, all!16:43
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