| jack-the-ripper | So im thinking of switching from lubuntu to xubuntu, but i only have 2gbs of ram, is that sufficent enough? | 00:25 |
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| knome | xubuntu can definitely run with 2GB ram | 00:25 |
| Unit193 | Basically yes, though depending on what applications you use. | 00:26 |
| Unit193 | (I have it on something with only 1G, not exactly the most friendly with FF but functional.) | 00:26 |
| knome | same with lubuntu though... | 00:26 |
| jack-the-ripper | Alright, and is the 64bit version a smart choice or should i use the 32bit? | 00:27 |
| knome | depends on your CPU architecture | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | Right, though with something like Unity, the desktop is going to take up such that running additional stuff might well be fun. | 00:27 |
| jack-the-ripper | I can run 64bit | 00:27 |
| jack-the-ripper | I'm just wondering if running 64 will use more ram or not | 00:29 |
| knome | you should pick 64bit if you can run it | 00:30 |
| jack-the-ripper | Alright, thanks | 00:30 |
| steve_ | hi, im trying to get my network manager plugin onto my panel | 01:29 |
| dougbb | I've been having some serious problems with my system "locking up" after it's been idle for a while .... the screen goes dark, backlight is on, but it won't "come back" | 05:47 |
| dougbb | I tried replacing light-locker with xscreensaver, no change | 05:47 |
| dougbb | in order to boot today at all I had to go back to the previous kernel | 05:48 |
| dougbb | any ideas? | 05:48 |
| Casper- | Hey guys, does anyone know how to turn off the 'corner-tiling' in XFCE 4.12? | 05:52 |
| Casper- | And just have the old regular 50% tiling? | 05:52 |
| xubuntu43w | where is the bug tracker? | 07:28 |
| flocculant | which one? | 07:29 |
| xubuntu43w | ok, found link here: http://xubuntu.org/dev/ | 07:29 |
| xubuntu43w | but links to the wrong place | 07:30 |
| xubuntu43w | to report issues with current installer | 07:30 |
| flocculant | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds | 07:31 |
| flocculant | right at the top it has a section 'Find a bug' | 07:32 |
| xubuntu43w | is this also for xubuntu? | 07:33 |
| flocculant | yes - xubuntu is at the bottom | 07:33 |
| xubuntu43w | I'm installing Xubuntu and run into bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-ext3/+bug/1361951 | 07:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1361951 in partman-ext3 (Ubuntu) "mke2fs asks for input when formatting over a partition table" [Medium,Fix released] | 07:46 |
| xubuntu43w | This is not mentioned in release notes | 07:46 |
| xubuntu43w | and btw, installer doesn't link to release notes but to some nonexistent wiki page | 07:47 |
| flocculant | that wouldn't be on ours - if ubuntu thought it important enough they'd put it on their one - which they didn't | 07:47 |
| flocculant | not sure I understand what link you're talking about there | 07:48 |
| xubuntu43w | the link in the first dialog of the installer | 07:48 |
| xubuntu43w | it means that some of us cannot install on existent ext4 partition, the installer just hangs, no error provided... | 07:50 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: here it links to a list of releases | 07:50 |
| xubuntu43w | you mean this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu | 07:51 |
| flocculant | no | 07:51 |
| flocculant | or rather - those are our notes yes :) | 07:51 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-ext3/+bug/1361951/comments/39 | 07:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1361951 in partman-ext3 (Ubuntu) "mke2fs asks for input when formatting over a partition table" [Medium,Fix released] | 07:52 |
| flocculant | seems to be a work round | 07:52 |
| xubuntu43w | shouldn't be linking to http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-15-10-release/ ? | 07:52 |
| xubuntu43w | yeah, there is a workaround | 07:52 |
| xubuntu43w | if you sort of figure out what's going on | 07:53 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: the installer would only ever link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes | 07:53 |
| xubuntu43w | sorry, this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/FinalRelease/Xubuntu | 07:55 |
| xubuntu43w | the "Final" is missing in the installer link | 07:55 |
| flocculant | updated the release notes | 07:56 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: the main installer will only ever point at the main Ubuntu release notes not ours | 07:57 |
| xubuntu43w | ok | 07:57 |
| flocculant | you can ubuntu-bug ubiquity and report the notes link wrong, I'll confirm it | 07:59 |
| xubuntu43w | flocculant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1517769 | 08:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1517769 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu installer links to wrong release notes page" [Undecided,New] | 08:06 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: thanks :) | 08:08 |
| xubuntu43w | to you :) | 08:09 |
| xubuntu43w | I've also run into this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1078445 | 08:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1078445 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu install fail due partition auto mount defeats Gparted " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:09 |
| xubuntu43w | not exactly, but I had to disable automount in thunar | 08:09 |
| xubuntu43w | for me it would be more sensible to have it disabled by default in livecd | 08:10 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: I was wrong - the fix for the note bug should be easy enough | 08:12 |
| xubuntu43w | it seems to... | 08:13 |
| flocculant | I remember seeing that automount issue a while back - not seen it recently | 08:13 |
| xubuntu43w | it's not automounting when you just boot | 08:13 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: I know what's up there with the notes bug | 08:14 |
| xubuntu43w | but if you modify partitions, new partitions automount, and everything else in that volume | 08:14 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: yea I understand - not something that we can fix though - note it on the bug | 08:15 |
| xubuntu43w | I've disabled the settings for "mount removable *" in Volume Management configuration, in Thunar, and that solved it | 08:17 |
| xubuntu43w | those can be off by default in live, right? | 08:18 |
| flocculant | probably | 08:19 |
| flocculant | I've got to bow out now - you caught me before getting ready for work :) | 08:20 |
| xubuntu43w | flocculant: have a nice day, thanks | 08:20 |
| flocculant | xubuntu43w: for what it's worth the release note bug is now Fix Released | 08:23 |
| xubuntu253 | hi wonder if anyone can answer a question re existing install and a new pc. I have xubuntu installed and configured the way i want it on a machine with an athlon dual core processor. I have been given a pentium dual core machine - could i swap the hard disk from the old machine to the new machine and keep all my settings or would i have to do a fresh install and reconfigure everything from there? | 11:35 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu253, sanest/surest option would be to fresh install | 11:37 |
| xubuntu253 | i figured that would be the cleanest and best solution - was just hoping to avoid reinstalling and reconfiguring all the software that i had added. I dont suppsoe that there is any tool like the xp files and settings transfer wizard available? | 11:39 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu253, well you can certainly dpkg -l all your currently installed packages. then sudo dpkg -k <packagelist> on the new machine | 11:40 |
| cfhowlett | dpkg -i | 11:41 |
| knome | cfhowlett, fwiw, using the same HDD should work; only problem might be some drivers on boot, but it's definitely fixable | 12:13 |
| knome | cfhowlett, and you could also copy most of the configuration from /home over anyway | 12:14 |
| knome | (that's what i do) | 12:14 |
| cfhowlett | knome makes sense. | 12:14 |
| flocculant | I've done similar - prior to moving the drive I've made sure I had no prop driver(s) enabled | 12:50 |
| xubuntu908 | hi | 13:13 |
| xubuntu908 | i never use xubuntu and ı want try today | 13:13 |
| xubuntu908 | but wtf ı dont understand anything | 13:13 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu908, 1. drop the profanity. | 13:17 |
| cfhowlett | 2. did you install xubuntu. | 13:17 |
| JesusSavesMe | Hi\ | 15:41 |
| JesusSavesMe | I have problem in xubuntu, i cant regulate laptop backlight | 15:41 |
| JesusSavesMe | Using Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. HP compaq 6715s laptop! Kernel 3.19. | 15:42 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Hello, sir, I'll help where I can, but I'm gonna have to say that I don't know much about laptops/backlights. | 15:42 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok | 15:44 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Here's a link which might shed light upon the subject: http://askubuntu.com/questions/517409/xubuntu-backlit-keyboard-not-working-on-14-04 | 15:45 |
| JesusSavesMe | hmm | 15:46 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok | 15:46 |
| JesusSavesMe | i still cant change screen brightness. | 16:11 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, desktop pc? laptop? which graphics card? | 16:15 |
| JesusSavesMe | laptop | 16:15 |
| JesusSavesMe | ATI | 16:15 |
| JesusSavesMe | This works: sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness <<< 5 | 16:16 |
| mrkramps | ATI? | 16:16 |
| JesusSavesMe | But Fn + brithness keys doesnt work | 16:16 |
| JesusSavesMe | mrkramps, yes | 16:16 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, os it is a pretty old card? | 16:16 |
| mrkramps | *so | 16:16 |
| JesusSavesMe | yes | 16:17 |
| JesusSavesMe | ati x1250 | 16:17 |
| mrkramps | ah, ok … just wanted this to be sure | 16:17 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, indicates you'Are using the free radeon driver | 16:17 |
| JesusSavesMe | yes | 16:17 |
| JesusSavesMe | cant even use proprietary | 16:18 |
| mrkramps | what is the exact laptop type | 16:18 |
| JesusSavesMe | HP COMPAQ 6715S | 16:19 |
| JesusSavesMe | fn + brightness doesnt respond | 16:19 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, does the brightness üanel plugin work? | 16:20 |
| JesusSavesMe | what | 16:20 |
| mrkramps | *panel plugin | 16:21 |
| JesusSavesMe | I dont have it i think? | 16:21 |
| JesusSavesMe | fresh Xubuntu install | 16:21 |
| JesusSavesMe | 3.19 kernel | 16:21 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok i installed power manager plugins | 16:22 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | JesusSavesMe, did you install Xubuntu 15.10? | 16:24 |
| JesusSavesMe | Xubuntu 14.04 | 16:24 |
| JesusSavesMe | As i said | 16:24 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | I just thought you maybe got another version.... | 16:24 |
| JesusSavesMe | I installed Power manager brightness plugin and it works | 16:24 |
| JesusSavesMe | But Fn + Brightness shortcut doesnt work | 16:24 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Ok, then go to your shortcuts panel. | 16:25 |
| JesusSavesMe | I cant install new version my laptop crashes with ( kernel > kernel 3.19) crash | 16:25 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | And make shortcuts for that. | 16:25 |
| JesusSavesMe | I need Fn + brightness keys | 16:25 |
| JesusSavesMe | Ah ok | 16:25 |
| JesusSavesMe | yes | 16:25 |
| JesusSavesMe | cant find it | 16:27 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, you can try some bootoptions | 16:27 |
| JesusSavesMe | which ones? | 16:28 |
| mrkramps | my first suggestion would be to gib 'acpi_osi="Linux"' a try | 16:28 |
| mrkramps | --gib ++give | 16:28 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps, is that to fix his "any version greater than kernel 3.19 crashes"? | 16:31 |
| mrkramps | JohnnyComeL8ly, no | 16:31 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | I'm just trying to follow along, sorry. | 16:31 |
| mrkramps | JohnnyComeL8ly, if you want to get more information on your kernel issues read through syslog and search for the errors | 16:32 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps, Ok, I'll try to remember that for when I need it. JesusSavesMe is the needy one right now though. | 16:34 |
| JesusSavesMe | where is syslog/ | 16:34 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, /var/log/syslog reps. sylog.1 and so on | 16:35 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Yes, I was gonna say that... had to check first. | 16:35 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | :-} | 16:35 |
| JesusSavesMe | mrkramps, but i crash before boot | 16:38 |
| JesusSavesMe | during boot | 16:38 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok i restart | 16:38 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps, I wish I were able to help him locally. | 16:40 |
| mrkramps | JohnnyComeL8ly, locally you in general do not help people, but just fix their problems right away | 16:43 |
| JesusSavesMe | maybe i should install older kernel | 16:43 |
| JesusSavesMe | backlight works | 16:46 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps, you are right... good thing to keep in mind. | 16:46 |
| JesusSavesMe | but how to make shortcut keys work/ | 16:46 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Use the keyboard shortcuts app. | 16:46 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | JesusSavesMe, use xfce4-keyboard-settings Paste that into a terminal. | 16:48 |
| JesusSavesMe | maybe i need debug keyboard hotkeys | 16:49 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Then go to the Application Shortcuts tab and add one. | 16:50 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | One that does what you want, that is. | 16:50 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, you may check if the Fn key combination is recognized by 'xev' | 16:51 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok i checked it | 16:51 |
| JesusSavesMe | got black box | 16:52 |
| JesusSavesMe | Fn keys work | 16:52 |
| JesusSavesMe | only Fn + brightness doesnt work | 16:53 |
| JesusSavesMe | bbrrr | 16:53 |
| JesusSavesMe | But i can change brightness with power manager plugin | 16:53 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | JesusSavesMe, do what mrkramps suggested. | 16:53 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps and JesusSavesMe, what of this https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/Old/HPCompaq6715s | 16:54 |
| mrkramps | ok, you can of course try this boot option as well | 16:55 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | mrkramps, I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst I'm not sure that he does either. Is that going to go into another file? | 16:56 |
| mrkramps | information is pretty outdated, but the bug mentioned does not seem to be fixed yet | 16:56 |
| mrkramps | JohnnyComeL8ly, edit /etc/default/grub and then update the boot loader 'sudo update-grub' | 16:57 |
| JesusSavesMe | but is it allowed to edit grub there? | 16:57 |
| mrkramps | yes | 16:57 |
| mrkramps | it is the common way of adding boot options permanentely | 16:58 |
| JesusSavesMe | what about "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" ? | 16:58 |
| mrkramps | !? | 16:58 |
| mrkramps | there's no such line in my /etc/default/grub | 16:58 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | That must be from /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 16:59 |
| mrkramps | exactly | 16:59 |
| mrkramps | and that is the WRONG file | 16:59 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Yeah. | 16:59 |
| JesusSavesMe | ah ok | 16:59 |
| JesusSavesMe | so what lines should i add? | 16:59 |
| mrkramps | replace: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" | 17:00 |
| mrkramps | with: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noapic" | 17:00 |
| JesusSavesMe | you suggest disabling apci? | 17:01 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | I'm glad you knew... I was only guessing (I've pickled myself over stuff like this - had to reinstall: but that was because I didn't follow a HOWTO....) | 17:01 |
| mrkramps | acutally i recommend to diable auto detection of APIC | 17:02 |
| mrkramps | _not_ ACPI | 17:02 |
| mrkramps | and there nothing like APCI ;) | 17:02 |
| JesusSavesMe | whatever :P | 17:03 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Acronyms have meaning.... :-D | 17:04 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | So, do what mrkramps said and then reboot! | 17:04 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | :-) | 17:04 |
| mrkramps | and do not forget to update the boot loader afterwards | 17:05 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok | 17:05 |
| JesusSavesMe | i cant boot into 3.19-33 kernel | 17:07 |
| JesusSavesMe | but 3.19-25 works | 17:07 |
| JesusSavesMe | ok i restart | 17:07 |
| JesusSavesMe | Hi | 17:09 |
| JesusSavesMe | didnt help | 17:09 |
| mrkramps | JesusSavesMe, did not help with kernel or with fn keys? | 17:11 |
| JesusSavesMe | fn | 17:11 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Ok, did you do 'sudo update-grub' after editing /etc/default/grub to change that line that mrkramps mentioned? | 17:11 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | JesusSavesMe, so you can use 3.19-33 now? | 17:12 |
| JesusSavesMe | no | 17:13 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Ok, did you use 'xev' to see if Fn is recognized? | 17:16 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | JesusSavesMe /\/\/\ | 17:17 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | brb | 17:18 |
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| xbnt | hello everyone, i just installed xubuntu. I am newer to linux, not totally new :). Well i used ubuntu software center to install docky and the installation stopped at 90%. I tried everything but couldnt fix it. The terminal says "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to fix it manualy, but it gets into a loop. I tried a restart it didnt work. Can some1 help me plz | 18:03 |
| evandrojr | Try compiling docky | 18:08 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | xbnt, 'dpkg-query -s docky' | 18:08 |
| xbnt | plz understand that i am new to linux. So i should run "dpkg-query -s docky" in terminal? | 18:09 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Yes, sir. | 18:09 |
| xbnt | ok, will try :D | 18:09 |
| xbnt | it says that docky is not installed, as i said it got stuck at 90% | 18:10 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | well then, 'sudo apt-get -f' | 18:11 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | xbnt: ^^^ | 18:11 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | xbnt, sorry 'sudo apt-get install -f' | 18:13 |
| xbnt | it says again that dpkg was manualy canceled and tat i should use sudo dpkg --configure -a | 18:14 |
| xbnt | i used sudo dpkg --configure -a and now i get : Installing 1 assembly from libdbus2.0-cil into Mono || Warning: Degraded allocation. Consider increasing nursery-size if the warning persists. | 18:17 |
| xbnt | O.O somehow it is fixed lol XD | 18:18 |
| xbnt | well thx for help xD | 18:18 |
| xubuntu90i | Hey. I tried to uninstall thunderbird today. I didn't need it. Turns out a lot of stuff was uninstalled. Like gnome-terminal and xfce. Reinstalling from scratch now. But is this really what is suppose to happen when you uninstall thunderbird? | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | How exactly did you try to uninstall? I've removed it as I don't use nor need it. | 18:53 |
| xubuntu90i | I used the Ubuntu Software Center, and just clicked "Remove". I did get a warning that a lot of packages (that seemed important) would be removed also. But I didn't believe that it could do any harm so I clicked yes | 18:54 |
| xubuntu90i | But it did some harm... :) | 18:55 |
| xubuntu90i | It was a pretty fresh Xubuntu 15.10 install. Just a couple of days old. Soon done with the reinstallation now, so I'm soon back in buisness. But just found it peculiar, so I thought I'd mention it here. | 18:58 |
| flocculant | usc told me it was going to remove lang pack only with it | 18:59 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Unit193, maybe you should state the "proper" method of package removal. | 19:01 |
| xubuntu90i | Hmmm. strange. I'll test my new installation now to see if I get the same warning | 19:01 |
| xubuntu90i | what is the "proper" way? | 19:01 |
| flocculant | JohnnyComeL8ly: any of them should work | 19:01 |
| Unit193 | JohnnyComeL8ly: There's not one canonical way. | 19:02 |
| JesusSavesMe | Hi | 19:06 |
| JesusSavesMe | GOD BLESS YOU! | 19:06 |
| JohnnyComeL8ly | Hello, JesusSavesMe, God bless you too. (I'm sincere here.) | 19:07 |
| knome | JesusSavesMe, do you have a support question? | 19:07 |
| xubuntu10 | Turns out it was the "Mail Reader" that gave me the problems | 19:07 |
| JesusSavesMe | knome, no | 19:07 |
| xubuntu10 | Not thunderbird | 19:08 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu10: That's exo, so yep! | 19:08 |
| knome | JesusSavesMe, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter if you are looking for that. | 19:08 |
| xubuntu10 | Unit193: What's exo? | 19:08 |
| xubuntu10 | (sorry for switching nickname btw. couldn't remember what I had before I logged out a minute ago) | 19:09 |
| knome | xubuntu10, that's ok, seasoned support people will catch that. | 19:10 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu10, actually the "Mail Reader" is just a generic starter for your preferred mail reader | 19:12 |
| mrkramps | by default it is thunderbird ;) | 19:12 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu10, for exo read about it here http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/exo/start | 19:13 |
| xubuntu10 | mrkramps: Thanks! | 19:13 |
| xubuntu10 | It's pretty cool that there is a support channel for Xubuntu! I just randomly stumbled across this | 19:14 |
| mrkramps | yeah, you'll find quite some support channels for projekt "you name it" on IRC | 19:14 |
| JesusSavesMe | Why i cant install older kernel? | 19:15 |
| JesusSavesMe | It says dependency not satisfiable | 19:15 |
| xubuntu09i | help | 21:00 |
| Pici | okay? | 21:00 |
| egggs | hello all | 23:44 |
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| knome | hello | 23:45 |
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