[00:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Really botched your name above
[00:00] <halexander9000> ABBA made some really good music.
[00:00] <Bashing-om> halexander9000: I am pleased that you are up and running .. faith in ubunbtu restored . Open source - 1 for all and all for one . Just help out as you can is the repayment .
[00:00] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: WOW! The official wiki/guide told me that I can run exiftool from the extracted folder, but when I do, the terminal gives me an error about not being installed. XD
[00:01] <k1l_> wait. you installed that from some website?
[00:01] <halexander9000> Bashing-om, Thanks again~ Calling it a night here. It's been a suspenseful adventure at 2 am, I'll tell you that. Have a nice one. You're a good man Bashing-om. I am forever in your debt. Take care.
[00:01] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: No. The website told me that I didn't even HAVE to install it. Just run it from the folder. Look at this. http://pastebin.com/iktDes8K
[00:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: This was our chat when we previously resolved issues, cut and refined, it looks like partially the same issue to me
[00:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: I did not save our work . so ' xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' and let us descend into the dependency chain .
[00:02] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: did you read the errormessage? it got some "hidden" info in it :)
[00:02] <halexander9000> Goodnight all.
[00:03] <Bashing-om> halexander9000: Nighty nite ,
[00:03] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: and first thing to learn is: i dont load stuff from websites!
[00:03] <halexander9000> Bashing-om is the man!
[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: So I DO have to install it? Why is the official wiki LYING to me? :(
[00:03] <halexander9000> But no, really. Om means man in my native language of Romanian.
[00:03] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: ubuntu already ships a lot of software made already working with ubuntu. so please use the ubuntu repo first.
[00:03] <halexander9000> But he's -the- man.
[00:03] <halexander9000> Bye now~
[00:04] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I can't find it in the software center, but I can find it in synaptic. Is that okay to install from?
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: the exiftools site cant know you are using ubuntu which ships that already
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they are all GUIs for the same basecommands: apt and dpgk. so yes
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: just run "sudo apt-get install libimage-exiftool-perl perl-doc "
[00:05] <est31> are there any good docs for how to set up wayland for kde to test stuff?
[00:05] <est31> and AFAIK wayland didnt run on KDE did it?
[00:05] <skwishy> hey guys, can I get advice about how to troubleshoot two different laptops, both running 14.04, they freeze up when I "killall chrome"
[00:05] <est31> then at least KDE over XWayland
[00:05] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: but the reason why ubuntu is not clustered with viruses like windows is, that you dont load and install stuff from dubious websites but use the official ubuntu repo.
[00:05] <TJ-> skwishy: "strace killall chrome" and review what it is up to
[00:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: You're last comment was: 'the_count: Pay attention .. We already know " xserver-xorg-input-synaptics " / So how about ' sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' . Reboot and let's see what works. '
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yes, I know. Sorry. :( Oh, dang! I didn't include the perl-doc part! What do I do now?!
[00:06] <k1l_> est31: its the other way around. kde runs on wayland. or xserver (like it is today still)
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I only ran "sudo apt-get install libimage-exiftool-perl" and without "perl-doc" after.
[00:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah, so again " sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid " and here we go once more . descending into the dependency chain .
[00:07] <k1l_> est31: and all desktops are heavy alpha state for wayland support. so you have a desktop and can move a window. if you are lucky.
[00:07] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: just run my command again. packages that are already installed are not intsalled again
[00:07] <est31> k1l_, I've heard fedora 24 wants to use wayland by default
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Phew! :D
[00:07] <skwishy> TJ-: thanks, I'll play with that strace tonight
[00:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I believe I said this yeterday, but there are unmet dependencies for this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13355609/
[00:07] <est31> and I want to make sure the application I develop runs smoothly on wayland.
[00:07] <k1l_> est31: in their rawhide which is just started its development. and not for kde but for gnome.
[00:08] <est31> bc I've heard from users that it _doesnt_ run smoothly
[00:08] <k1l_> est31: kde seems somewhat behind on that. see martin graesslins blog or g+ posts to get to know what kde is kapable in the latest plasma 5.5 alphas
[00:08] <mistel_> hey guys! :)
[00:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yepper, and we start that process to find and resolve the denpency issue . I will be back .
[00:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok Sir
[00:09] <k1l_> est31: wayland doesnt run smoothly :)  but you can setup a wayland + weston. weston is the standard implementation as desktop on the wayland protocol
[00:09] <mistel_> can someone help me with a problem involving ubuntu or generally linux?
[00:10] <k1l_> mistel_: ask here for ubuntu or ##linux for other distros or generel linux comparisons
[00:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: let's see if I have the direction right, do : sudo apt-get install xorg-input-abi-21 xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid ' . See what the package manager advises .
[00:11] <est31> I don't want to get it run on native wayland, not yet. It were already great if it worked on XWayland.
[00:11] <mistel_> my problem is in ubuntu i just cant conect to my wifi, it shows up and the password is 100% but it tells me that my password is incorrect / on windows it works perfectly fine thats why im bound to it at the moment :/ thxfor help :)
[00:12] <est31> Any way to convince KDE to use XWayland instead of an X server?
[00:12] <the_count> BAshing-om: I believe we install the packages it gave as a result, but not entirely sure, E: Package 'xorg-input-abi-21' has no installation candidate
[00:12] <the_count> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13355700/
[00:13] <k1l_> est31: xwayland is just a wrapper for running xserver inside wayland for legacy reasons.
[00:13] <TJ-> the_count: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid "
[00:13] <k1l_> est31: so either wayland or xserver. but not both at one time. for the whole desktop.
[00:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; -apt-cache search xorg-input-abi-21- shows it to be a compenent of xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid . Did it install ?
[00:14] <est31> k1l_, I've thought that legacy applications run on wayland using xwayland?
[00:14] <est31> similar to xephyr?
[00:14] <orfeo> Hi folks!
[00:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: One sec
[00:15] <k1l_> est31: so in the long run no one wants xwayland to be used. so better going native wayland on the new toolkits those wayland desktops support.
[00:15] <orfeo> When I try to run this command : sudo a2ensite sandbox.com.conf I get this error message : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9dd79a72ce914c86139e could someone help me understand what could be possible happening here please?
[00:15] <truexfan81> rofl this is not off to a good start
[00:15] <k1l_> est31: yes. but xwayland is a xserver put in a window on wayland. its like a wine window.
[00:16] <truexfan81> i downloaded the 15.10 32bit iso
[00:16] <truexfan81> did a clean install in a new vm
[00:16] <truexfan81> install finishes, i click the restart button...kernel panic
[00:16] <wxl> orfeo: it's telling you that you don't have LANGUAGE or LC_ALL set
[00:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: It installed
[00:17] <est31> awww
[00:17] <orfeo> wxl: yes? thats all?
[00:17] <est31> why does the "Xwayland" command start with a major letter
[00:17] <est31> ?
[00:17] <wxl> orfeo: well, those seem to be warnings. then it complains that the site doesn't exist, so there may eb something wrong with your conf file
[00:17] <est31> it joins the damn NetworkManager club... :(
[00:17] <TJ-> est31: the X server has always been X
[00:18] <k1l_> est31: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html    but i would honestly go for the wayland path
[00:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Reboot, and see if the touchpad functions now .
[00:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooting now.
[00:20] <est31> k1l_, well, problem is we use irrlicht, and it seems irrlicht devs dont want to use wayland. so it means nothing less than abandoning the largest dependency of the 100k lines codebase. in the long term, perhaps yes, but in the short term, it should at least work with xwayland
[00:20] <wxl> orfeo: you should make sure there's a <VirtualHost> block with the same name, if i'm understanding the man page correctly
[00:22] <truexfan81> yeah this not going well, i think i'll stick with the lts versions lol
[00:23] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Down with fancy new stuff! :D
[00:23] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: it was making it a pain in the rear just to install vmware-tools
[00:24] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Tell me if the LTS version works. I want to know for future use.
[00:24] <orfeo> wxl: I am following a tutorial which doesn't have it, and it already worked on a server, now on my localhost it doesn't.
[00:25] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: the current lts version works nicely in vmware player
[00:26] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: i have one setup, i use it to do faster compiles of mpv, hexchat for my netbook
[00:26] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Awesome.
[00:27] <orfeo> wxl: perhaps I show you the .conf file
[00:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think it may have broke...
[00:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think it may have broke...
[00:32] <popsch> what is the latest version of evince that is available in 15.10, please? packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down.
[00:32] <TJ-> !info evince | popsch
[00:34] <tachyondecay> I have a new Dell XPS 15 with an Nvidia GTX960M. I need to use nomodeset to boot the 15.10 live USB (it booted once without this, strangely, but hasn't booted properly without since then). However, when I do this my touchpad is disabled and display scaling doesn't work, so everything is incredibly hard to read at UHD resolution.
[00:34] <tachyondecay> Can I somehow install drivers to get this working before I try running the Ubuntu installer? (I still have to do some partitioning, and I'd rather not squint at the screen.)
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, so exiftool works perfectly. But how do I automate the process? It would be nice with a right-click entry. Hmm.
[00:35] <popsch> TJ-: thanks!
[00:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Something broke for sure, I m in a recoverey terminal right now
[00:37] <nlackbigger> what is the right setup to not get a virus in ubuntu?
[00:37] <dimitry7> nlackbigger, virus don't exist in linux systems
[00:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: SOS
[00:38] <Quaker_56kbps> it s weird i have my dns on windows 7 that change sometime, is it somebody who hack me  ?
[00:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can't stick around though, i'll have to catch you later
[00:40] <Bashing-om> the_count: What returns ' sudo apt-get 0f install ; sudo dpkf -C ' See what the package manger releates .
[00:41] <Bashing-om> 'sudo apt-get -f install ' **
[00:41] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: how is that Ubuntu support related?
[00:41] <Quaker_56kbps> i m lost allizom
[00:41] <allizom> Bashing-om: she left
[00:42] <Bashing-om> allizom: Thanks, I just toooo slow .
[00:43] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: that doesn't answer my question. Try ##windows
[00:45] <tachyondecay> Hmm
[00:45] <tachyondecay> Live USB doesn't see my hard disk at all o_O
[00:47] <Quaker_56kbps> allizom, i use android smartphone to connect. Maybe somebody can help me to set the signal strenght ?
[00:47] <nlackbigger> hello
[00:48] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: what is your end goal? Is it Ubuntu related? If not, you're better off joing other channels
[00:49] <allizom> *joining
[00:50] <est31> so, I got wayland + weston running
[00:50] <est31> I can start a shell, everything is fine
[00:50] <est31> now I only have to find out how to start Xwayland so that it acts as a wrapper around a program
[00:50] <est31> you know, it opens a window
[00:51] <est31> which then acts like a window under x
[00:53] <Quaker_56kbps> all right allizom thx for the info
[00:54] <est31> just first of all : how do I disable this auto-restart loop for X?
[00:54] <est31> every time I do killall Xorg in a root shell, it starts again
[00:54] <Quaker_56kbps> start x ?
[00:54] <est31> (or ctrl alt backspace fwiw)
[00:54] <est31> Quaker_56kbps, not start it, I want to kill it
[00:54] <est31> so that it doesnt restart anymore
[00:55] <est31> so that I can start Xwayland
[00:55] <creyc> does it make much sense to use LVM for a small (10GB) virtual machine?
[00:55] <Quaker_56kbps> you can do that
[00:55] <est31> and how?
[00:55] <Quaker_56kbps> config i did it 12 years ago :) cant remember but google x config
[00:56] <TJ-> est31: disable it using the init system's control tool
[00:57] <est31> TJ-, so, which *.conf file to edit?
[00:58] <est31> are all such "init system" stuff in /etc/systemd?
[00:59]  * est31 runs grep -rIn "startx" /etc and hopes the best
[00:59] <teethxy> est31: that's all. The best
[00:59] <est31> btw got this PM
 you commie terrorist liberal people hating bastard
[00:59] <TJ-> est31: identify which init system first; Systemd: "systemctl disable <service>" Upstart: "echo manual > /etc/init/<service>.override"
[00:59] <est31> by ~teethxy@208.31.49.58
[01:00] <Quaker_56kbps> test
[01:00] <Quaker_56kbps> can you read this ?
[01:00] <TJ-> est31: Sysv-init: "update-rc.d <service> disable"
[01:00] <TJ-> Quaker_56kbps: Yes
[01:00] <est31> TJ-, I am systemd
[01:01] <tachyondecay> OK, it looks like if I want to install Ubuntu I'm going to have to switch my SSD's SATA mode, breaking Windows in the process -_-
[01:01] <Abe> Quaker_56kbps: yes
[01:01] <TJ-> tachyondecay: in what way? Linux supports AHCI if that is what you're referring to
[01:02] <Quaker_56kbps> thx Abe  TJ-
[01:02] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I can't see my SSD in the Live USB
[01:03] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Apparently my SATA mode is set to RAID
[01:03] <TJ-> tachyondecay: can you "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[01:04] <TJ-> tachyondecay: (from the Live environment)
[01:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What are these 2 files doing in "/"? https://i.imgur.com/YkI5a75.png
[01:07] <truexfan81> ok so i just googled the name of the next lts
[01:08] <truexfan81> Xenial Xerus == Hospitable Squirrel
[01:08] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they are for the kernel
[01:08] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Nothing malicious?
[01:08] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232262/whats-the-point-of-having-vmlinuz-and-initrd-img
[01:09] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no.
[01:09] <tachyondecay> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13356802/
[01:09] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: PHEW! :D somsip: Okay, good. :P
[01:10] <tachyondecay> TJ-: My end goal at the moment isn't so much installing Ubuntu as partitioning (shrinking the Windows system partition and setting up a shared data partition) so I can install stuff in Windows and then install Ubuntu later when I have more time.
[01:12] <millerti> Can anyone help me figure out an rsync problem?  I copied over MOST of a 4.3TB dataset, but something went wrong, and I want to use rsync to check it.  I'm messing up the rsync command somehow, because it's copying files I know for a fact are already there.  Here's the command:  rsync --size-only -Puave ssh millerti@c6220-12:/data/millerti/aug2015/circuits_projects/cvsl/src/cvsl_circuits/output output
[01:13] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Is it possible to enable ctrl+v in terminal?
[01:13] <est31> hmm why isnt /usr/lib/weston added to PATH ?
[01:13] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: press shift too
[01:13] <est31> VictoriaXOXO, alternatively use the middle mouse button
[01:13] <daftykins> or shift+insert, or right click (sometimes)
[01:14] <fallencl0ud> hello! I was looking for the Disks application on xubuntu, but it appears only vanilla ubuntu has the disks application. what application can I use to make an ISO of an SSD?
[01:14] <est31> eww weston doesnt support middle mouse button
[01:14] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: est31: daftykins: Hmm. I guess middle mouse button is easiest.
[01:14] <daftykins> results are a fine metric
[01:15] <daftykins> fallencl0ud: you wouldn't make an ISO, but you could make an image file with clonezilla
[01:15] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that looks like a controller issue; the AHCI RAID ports show up, and there's one port ata2 but no device is found on it
[01:15] <est31> seems there is nothing like a clipboard for weston :/
[01:16] <tachyondecay> I found a forum post by someone with the same computer as me saying they had to switch to AHCI mode explicitly in the BIOS settings
[01:16] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it's possible that is caused by an ACPI bug in the firmware
[01:16] <est31> well, I hope it will work later on
[01:16] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[    5.615405] ahci 0000:00:17.0: AHCI 0001.0301 32 slots 1 ports 6 Gbps 0x2 impl RAID mode"
[01:17] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[    5.629819] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m524288@0xdd100000 port 0xdd100180 irq 125"
[01:17] <non> hello
[01:18] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[    5.950150] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 4 SControl 300)"  ... and that's it, the link never comes up, which is why I suspect an ACPI firmware issue
[01:18] <tachyondecay> What would you recommend?
[01:21] <tachyondecay> If I ultimately have to do a format/reinstall of Windows to install Ubuntu, I will, but then I might as well give up on custom partitioning for now and just proceed with setting up Windows
[01:23] <creyc> im having a hard time trying to shrink the size of a physical volume.
[01:23] <creyc> sudo pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 12G /dev/vda5
[01:23] <creyc> 0 physical volume(s) resized / 1 physical volume(s) not resized
[01:23] <creyc> oops missed first line, forgot escape char: /dev/vda5: cannot resize to 3071 extents as later ones are allocated.
[01:25] <TJ-> tachyondecay: reading the Intel RST Linux docs, it seems you need to "modprobe intel-rst" module which sits between the AHCI driver and the hardware controller
[01:25] <creyc> my root LV is 10G plus a 1G swap, so it shouldn't be a size issue..
[01:25] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it is possible that module isn't installed in the Live image, or not loaded by default
[01:26] <tachyondecay> "sudo modprobe intel-rst" gives no output
[01:28] <est31> yeah its running great now
[01:28] <est31> (weston and xwayland)
[01:29] <est31> just /usr/share/doc/weston/examples/weston.ini is a bit ... well, not exemplaratory
[01:29] <est31> it uses gnome icons,
[01:29] <est31> and it even seems to rely on a path which seems to come from a local configuration
[01:31] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that means it worked. check it is loaded with "lsmod | grep rst"
[01:32] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you'll possibly need to unload/load the AHCI driver, but first check if the device has been recognised now with "dmseg | tail -n 50" see if that intel-rst module has reported anything useful. pastebin the output if there is anything useful
[01:35] <eyad> hiiiiiiiii
[01:36] <tachyondecay> TJ-: lsmod output gives "intel_rst    16384 0"
[01:36] <tachyondecay> dmesg output is just a bunch of i2c_designware timeouts
[01:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Ugh. My USB stick called "USB" (/dev/sdb1) is read-only. How do I change that? :(
[01:40] <TJ-> tachyondecay: OK, then, try "sudo modprobe -r ahci && sudo modprobe ahci" ... if that doesn't report errors that ought to reload the AHCI, which should then be able to search for devices via the intel-rst
[01:41] <tachyondecay> No output from either of those
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that's expected if they work correctly. most Linux tools only get verbal if something goes wrong
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: check dmesg again: "dmesg | tail"
[01:42] <tachyondecay> More i2c_designware timeouts
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you should see at least entries for the ahci module re-discovering the chipset
[01:43] <tachyondecay> I think those are related to my touchscreen
[01:43] <tachyondecay> OK, I reran the modprobe commands and then checked dmesg immediately
[01:43] <tachyondecay> And I still get "SATA link down"
[01:44] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that's a pain. I had hoped having intel-rst in-place would help. Obviously something more is required, or else it is due to a firmware bug. All those complaints on the Dell forums seem to suggest it is a bug
[01:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you around now?
[01:46] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "modinfo -F alias intel-rs" shows "acpi*:INT3392:*" which indicates specific ACPI table support is required, and the firmware isn't revealing that. That may mean it is detecting Linux is the OS and not revealing the same facilities as it does to Windows.
[01:47] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Does this mean I should wait for a bit to see if Dell releases a BIOS update that could fix the issue?
[01:47] <the_count> TJ-: Seems as if Bashing-om isn't around, that command faild to stick so now I am in a recovery prompt, how shall I install it now?
[01:48] <the_count> TJ-: To install xorg for vivid if you remember
[01:48] <TJ-> tachyondecay: see the kernel patches that introduced support for RST for an explanation: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/2/544
[01:50] <TJ-> !ltse | the_count this should ensure you do the *entire* job, rather than just 1 package
[01:51] <the_count> TJ-: I fail to understand, and I don't really have access to another device either
[01:53] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I appreciate all the help. Given these issues, is it worth trying to use GParted to partition my drive, or is GParted going to run into similar problems?
[01:53] <TJ-> tachyondecay: I'm not entirely sure, reading up on the various bits has got me confused!
[01:53] <tachyondecay> (I mean from a dedicated gparted live USB, which I haven't burned yet but could if it's worth trying)
[01:53] <tachyondecay> Haha, sorry :P
[01:54] <tachyondecay> I'd just rather not install a bunch of stuff in Windows until I've repartitioned, if possible, and Windows Disk Management does not like to shrink the volume past a certain point. I know gparted is a bit better at that.
[01:55] <the_count> TJ-: To clarify, I cannot look at the link there at the moment and am uncertain on how to fix this issue as it now lies.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Good advise from TJ- to make sure all of HWE is installed to match the 3.19 kernel in trusty. what returns ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-lts-vivid ' ?
[01:58] <the_count> bashing-om: Could you refresh me on how to use screen at the moment, because I am in a recoverey terminal right now and will have to exit and rejoin in irssi otherwise
[01:58] <TJ-> tachyondecay: according to the Ubuntu hardware certfication that chipset is certified, so it seems to point even more strongly to a firmware bug. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:282a/
[01:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, never used the utility . Can not advise .
[01:58] <daftykins> the_count: don't you have another TTY...
[01:59] <the_count> bashing-om: I thought you had before, and I know next to nothing about using the root terminal on it's own
[01:59] <the_count> daftykins :Not exactly sure
[02:00] <tachyondecay> TJ-: That's good though, right, because a firmware bug can theoretically be fixed?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> the_count: The root terminal on "recovery" is just a terminal . just be careful what you do . Presntly in this terminal all we want to lnow is if 'vivid's xserver is inastalled .
[02:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok.. Exiting irssi
[02:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13357459/ -- Looks as if it... *trailing off*, Long story short, not sure
[02:04] <TJ-> tachyondecay: this seems to give some good detail. It's "Intel SRT" we need to look at, not "Intel RST" - that's the goose-chase I was off on due to a bad search hit!
[02:04] <tachyondecay> So sudo modprobe intel-srt?
[02:05] <TJ-> tachyondecay: read the response by the user 'Forge' in particular
[02:05] <TJ-> tachyondecay: unfortunately, no. SRT is something entirely different
[02:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch ! Not installed ! OK ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid linux-image-generic-lts-vivid ' .
[02:06] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Did you mean to link to something?
[02:06] <TJ-> tachyondecay: :P ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/308481/howto-run-ubuntu-with-uefi-and-intel-smart-response-technology
[02:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, what exactly are the implications of this, and I suppose this command will work from this recovery terminal?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: will have to remount the root partition: ' mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.) . With the 3.19 kernel installed ( uname -r says so ) . should have the supporting Xserver structure also installed .
[02:09] <tachyondecay> TJ-: OK. For what it's worth, I don't care if SRT is enabled in the end.
[02:10] <tachyondecay> That sounds like gparted should be able to see my disk (I'm burning a live USB in Windows now)
[02:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: Have to eat supper again, be back in a bit
[02:12] <TJ-> tachyondecay: also, this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11157021
[02:12] <TJ-> tachyondecay: apparently when SRT is enabled in firmware setup, the controller hides the SSD being used as the caching device to prevent it being accidentally written to by the OS
[02:13] <TJ-> tachyondecay: and in Windows, special drivers handle the RAID/caching operations, and those aren't avaiable to Linux. On Linux we have similar technologies, like bcache (block cache).
[02:13] <tachyondecay> Hahaha
[02:14] <tachyondecay> I looked for a way to turn off SRT in BIOS setup and couldn't find it, so I assumed it wasn't on -_-
[02:14] <tachyondecay> I must have missed it
[02:14] <TJ-> tachyondecay: so that explains - finally - why the kernel cannot see the device
[02:14] <tachyondecay> Let me look in the BIOS again and see if I can find something
[02:15] <TJ-> tachyondecay: maybe it has some weird name or euphamism as a title, like "super duper wooshing drive accelerator" :)
[02:18] <tachyondecay> Cannot see anything, searching now. I must be missing it
[02:19] <tachyondecay> Oh, looks like I need to use a program pre-installed in Windows
[02:21] <TJ-> tachyondecay: I think you can assume SRT is Windows-only, and not usable for dual-boot. It seems that the controller being in 'RAID' mode automatically infers 'SRT' mode and therefore the SSD is invisible. So, your ownly solution may be to only operate the device in AHCI mode, not RAID, and have Windows use that and forgo SRT
[02:21] <tachyondecay> That's what I figured
[02:21] <tachyondecay> Wait, so you mean I _will_ have to switch the mode in the BIOS?
[02:22] <tachyondecay> I don't care about SRT at all; but I'm just trying to avoid having to reinstall Windows if I don't have to :P
[02:22] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it appears that way, if the firmware is treating RAID==SRT mode, and there is no separate control of SRT
[02:23] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it looks like, from that answer by 'Forge', that in Windows you can disable SRT for Windows itself. So you should maybe try that
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Yeah, I don't see it in this rapid storage technology program on Windows
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Darn
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Well at least I created a recovery disk already
[02:24] <tachyondecay> I will go ahead and setup stuff on the system partition then, since I'm going to be wiping it all out anyway.
[02:24] <tachyondecay> I appreciate all your help with this, TJ-!
[02:24] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, I intend to keep a portable Linux installation on a pen drive, for secure browsing and related stuff. I tried Xubuntu, but it's somewhat slow. So, should I switch to Puppy slacko, or is there any lightweight *buntu that works?
[02:25] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: probably the issue is the USB device being slow
[02:25] <k1l> !lubuntu | ThetaOrionis
[02:26] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: you might want to create a persistent Live image, where it mostly runs from RAM but can save changes to a writeable overlay file-system
[02:26] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: I see...
[02:26] <OerHeks> it might be slow, but it is secure. and workable.
[02:26] <k1l> ThetaOrionis: but maybe the usb and/or the pc was just slow. keep in mind that all system needs to sit in ram now so there is not much left for the programs
[02:26] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: But, won't a persistent live image be hard to upgrade? I mean, kernel upgrades, etc.
[02:27] <ThetaOrionis> Right, that makes sense, thanks k1l. I guess I need to try once on a different pendrive
[02:27] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: yes, that is part of the downside, but your current issue is likely the read/write speed over the USB. disabling file-system metadata timestamp updates with noatime etc might help
[02:27] <the_count>  Bashing-om: Back, so, which shall I do first? mount or install?
[02:27] <k1l> but dont expect a rocket :)
[02:27] <Bashing-om> tachyondecay: I do not know, but post # 6 of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2020155 might apply to your situation .
[02:27] <LambdaComplex> ThetaOrionis: I'd try Puppy
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: Did you re-install the HWE support ?
[02:28] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: True. :D Thanks for the tips, I'll definitely try them
[02:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: No... I was copying it down on paper so I know what to type
[02:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid  linux-image-generic-lts-vivid '
[02:29] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: also, don't have a 'swap' partition
[02:29] <ThetaOrionis> LambdaComplex: I tried puppy once, but didn't stick to it. Guess I'll have to give it a shot.
[02:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstalling HWE Support now
[02:30] <ricao> hi, i'm running a ubuntu 14.4, but i'd like to migrateit to 15.10, i'd like to know if mono is stable in this version
[02:30] <kilde> I cant get my scanner working. Brother MFC-6490CW on Ubuntu 14.04. Help.
[02:30] <tachyondecay> Bashing-om: Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't have an "Accelerate" tab on my rapid storage technology manager in Windows. So I don't seem to be able to disable SRT
[02:31] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: You mean, swap as on the pendrive itself?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> tachyondecay: :( was but a thought . sorry .
[02:32] <tachyondecay> (I think the 11 GB "recovery" partition I deleted might have been the SRT cache! Oops.)
[02:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: It was unable to find libgll-mesa-glx-lts-vivid
[02:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: checking .
[02:34] <creyc> besides fdisk and parted, are there any other common tools that might tell me a bit more about an .img file i have?
[02:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: If somehow I copied it down wrong, you're going to have to use the phonetic alphabet to type, I have near 4K display on my laptop here and I may have in distinguished some of the l's as in Lima
[02:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well that last message didn't make sense, I suspect I misread the l's or 1's or i's or something in there possibly, phonetic alphabet for those
[02:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did I scare you off?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah, as " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt-cache search libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid >> libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid - free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime " it is there ! - libg(lima)(one)-mesa-g(lima)x-(long)(term)(support)-vivid .
[02:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, that helps immensly.
[02:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, trying now.....
[02:46] <trollin4tehLuLz> whats going on guys
[02:47] <trollin4tehLuLz> anything going on .. ?
[02:47] <latrodectus> !support
[02:48] <Hiz_> ID
[02:48] <Bashing-om> creyc: how about just the 'file' command ? see " man file " .
[02:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, graphical display works now... Using it now... What's next on our list... One item to consider, Mouse is extremely slow
[02:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: " dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid " is it now installed ?
[02:50] <latrodectus> just got a gparted error; *** Error in `/usr/sbin/gpartedbin': malloc(): smallbin double linked list corrupted: 0x088587b8 *** Aborted (core dumped),
[02:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: I assume ii before means yes?
[02:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358123/
[02:53] <creyc> thank you Bashing-om
[02:54] <creyc> i always overlook the simplest solutions
[02:56] <Bashing-om> creyc: Hey, 2 heads are better than one :) .
[02:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Can you access the touchpad settings under System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad ?
[02:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: Yes
[02:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I can suggest at this point is to reconfigure from the set up utility . Maybe ?
[02:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: That's not going to work I don't think
[02:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: It still does not load a driver for synclient, and Ubuntu is a bit out of the normal... Not sure exactly what to do to fix that
[02:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not then comprehend what the new situation is then . HWE is installed, the driver is installed and the utility is accesssable . what gives ?
[03:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: I also completely fail to understand
[03:02] <kilde> I cant get my scanner working. Brother MFC-6490CW on Ubuntu 14.04. Help.
[03:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about reinstalling synclient, could we do that?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: " if you enabled
[03:02] <Bashing-om>        SHMConfig "on" in your XOrg/XFree86 configuration.
[03:03] <wafflejock> kilde: haven't used a brother scanner but xsane has been pretty good in my experience with HP and Cannon scanners in linux, what have you tried so far?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: from http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/synclient.1.html . I assime ine has to make the appropriate entries in xorg.conf ???
[03:04] <SadTuesday> helo
[03:05] <daftykins> hi
[03:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Something is majorly messed up with ubuntu, firefox looks completely different almost as if it were being run from wine or something of those sorts, as well as numerous other odd things
[03:05] <daftykins> run from wine o0
[03:05] <tomhardy> everytime i tried to play a file from my ExFat usb disk on ubuntu 15.04, the entire system crashes and it logs me out
[03:06] <the_count> daftykins: When one has no other way of explanation, that is hwat happens... :D
[03:07] <tomhardy> any idea why that is?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; let's look and see what the package manager has to say ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install sudo dpkg -C ' .
[03:09] <kilde> wafflejock: I installed the driver per instructions from Brother, I have simple scan and Xsane, they do not recognize it. Im sure its something simple but I just cant figure it out.
[03:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: Nothing out of the ordinary, may I autoremove the packages listed?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: Normally that is the better thing .. but with a messed up system I would caution using 'autoremove" at this time .
[03:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Would the best course of action be to reboot at this point?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Fid the command 'dpkg -C' directly return to prompt ?
[03:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: No
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Fid/did*
[03:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I caught it
[03:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: Best show then ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' . Lets see the errors .
[03:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: There are no errors...
[03:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: As well as the scaling being very strange
[03:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looking at the LTS enablement stack, I tried the command you gave me again, and there was one other piece which you must have missed
[03:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is it safe to install, The following NEW packages will be installed: libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid
[03:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Maybe then we have a corrupted xorg.conf file ( or none at all ??) . show ' sudo lshw -C display ; cat /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' . Maybe I can fumble something out .
[03:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. do not think you have the wayland interface on that system .
[03:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, is it something I need? Or? What?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: No, you do not need " libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid " . Installing that would sure be a disaster .
[03:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Why is this?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look up what the wayland interface is .. you do not want to bring all those dependenciews in .. wayland is experimental at best .
[03:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was reading about it, read this, 'The Wayland server in the diagram is Weston with the DRM backend.' Weston happens to be my name
[03:23] <Magic815> Hey all. So I'm extremely new to Ubuntu and I'm trying out some things with Ubuntu Server set inside Virtualbox. My first step is to try and get ZFS started. Are there any good articles/tutorials I could read up on to help me through it?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> !zfs | Magic815
[03:25] <Bashing-om> the_count: So, Weston is not X .. do not mix .
[03:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, got it
[03:26] <k1l> the_count: weston is the standard compositor implementation. its like the prototype compositor to show what wayland can do.
[03:26] <Xytron> hello
[03:26] <the_count> k1l: I see.
[03:26] <Gnomethrower> hi, need some help with php5-fpm. When I change settings for opcache in php.ini the changes don't seem to apply despite lots of restarts, stops and reloads
[03:27] <Gnomethrower> i confirmed with phpinfo(); that they're not being applied
[03:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: The xorg.conf file does not exist, not sure that it ever has, I have always edited xorg.conf.d, maybe that is par of the issue
[03:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is xorg.conf.d: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358711/
[03:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I have looked ar says /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Not to say that xorg.conf.d would not be equally effective . depends on the graphics card and driver . why I wanted to see the out put of disolay and xorg,conf .
[03:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: that is all I have seen also
[03:35] <daftykins> Magic815: i'd say ZFS would be supported better on a distro where it's... supported
[03:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: Intel graphics . xorg.conf is not normally used . I see no fault with the current synaptic config file . let's reboot the box and see what the result is .
[03:36] <daftykins> Magic815: bear in mind #ubuntu-server exists, however
[03:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[03:37] <Magic815> daftykins - oh, so ZFS isn't supported by Ubuntu? at least in the official sense?
[03:38] <Magic815> i got into Ubuntu because i want to soon create a ZFS NAS. all initial signs pointed to FreeNAS, but I was told by some people that I could just make a server off Ubuntu
[03:38] <Magic815> but if it's not really a recommended config, i guess i could go back to the drawing board
[03:38] <daftykins> Magic815: i always read that other distros were where it was deemed best
[03:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing changed, do you think it is fixable? Or should I see about reinstalling
[03:39] <Invisabit> Howdy all
[03:40] <daftykins> lo
[03:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: It is always fixable, but many times (re-)install is quicker .
[03:41] <Invisabit> Can anyone help with a steam crash I am getting?
[03:41] <daftykins> depends what the error is, #ubuntu-steam exists also
[03:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well, I think I would learn more through fixing it
[03:41] <Invisabit> Ah okay, thanks! Ill try there first.
[03:42] <Magic815> daftykins - ah, so meaning another linux distro besides ubuntu or ubuntu server?
[03:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you have a policy against remote desktop for help? Or is this what we do?
[03:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: Here both then are in the learning mode . Let's look at the status of X ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[03:43] <daftykins> Magic815: yep; i'd read up on ZFS to be sure. your pick really depends on the intended disk config, i have one with a hardware RAID controller card and ubuntu server doing just fine
[03:44] <Invisabit> No luck in ubuntu-steam :( Here is my issue: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4145
[03:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358930/
[03:44] <Magic815> ok, i might go check out the #ubuntu-server channel then. thanks!
[03:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: The policy is keep all in this channel ' .. I am also very active elsewhere that I attend to .
[03:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Not sure what you mean by the second statement
[03:46] <MrCeeIII> i have .wmv files that wont produce any sound... anyone... anyone??? i have VLC installed and also tried mplayer...
[03:46] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: pretty sure you were here before and the suggestion then was to provide a mediainfo output
[03:46] <MrCeeIII> whats that
[03:47] <daftykins> "mediainfo" is a program you can run to spit out info on your files.
[03:47] <MrCeeIII> mediainfo output?
[03:47] <Invisabit> Anyone have any ideas?
[03:47] <daftykins> Invisabit: not really. you could try renaming ~/.steam to ~/.steamold and try running it afresh
[03:47] <daftykins> Invisabit: what's your disk configuration, any SSDs? purely mechanical?
[03:48] <Invisabit> Just 1 mechanical 1tb HDD
[03:48] <Corvus`> hey, guys, do you have any idea what will happen if I do dist-upgrade on utopic?
[03:48] <daftykins> !eolupgrade | Corvus` just do it right
[03:48] <daftykins> Invisabit: old or new?
[03:48] <MrCeeIII> it says that program is not installed
[03:48] <Invisabit> About a year old
[03:49] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: indeed, you often can't run something when it's not installed
[03:49] <the_count> :D
[03:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: I mean, if it dies, whatever, it's a VPS, I'll just reinstall it.
[03:49] <daftykins> Invisabit: i'd try the above, then
[03:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: the question is, what are the chances?
[03:49] <daftykins> Corvus`: oh? just create a new one side by side, transfer data -> delete the old.
[03:49] <Invisabit> resetting steam? Ill give it a shot, but it did this before I did the fresh install as well
[03:49] <daftykins> Corvus`: a VPS on non-LTS however... sounds like a mistake to me
[03:50] <Corvus`> daftykins: Not willing to pay for another one. I'd rather reinstall it on weekend.
[03:50] <MrCeeIII> installing no
[03:50] <MrCeeIII> w
[03:50] <daftykins> Invisabit: oh? hmm, possibly your system isn't too stable then, hard to say.
[03:50] <daftykins> Corvus`: your provider doesn't sound too good then
[03:50] <Invisabit> On 14.04.3? Hm... I didn't think stability would be an issue
[03:51] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: <sidenote> as a _long_ time player user myself, this is hard to say, but if you are using trusty+ i'd strongly suggest switching to mpv (unless you happen to use fb for output, as mpv dropped framebuffer support)
[03:51] <L0> daftykins: is there LTS for 15 already?
[03:51] <zykotick9> s/player user/mplayer user/
[03:51] <MrCeeIII> there old video files from a jvc recorder...
[03:51] <Corvus`> daftykins: provider is fine. I can install new one from management panel. But then I'd have to backup/restore configuration, you know the drill.
[03:51] <daftykins> L0: no it's only every 2 years, 16.04 is next LTS
[03:52] <daftykins> Corvus`: ideal opportunity to go back to LTS then \o/
[03:52] <Corvus`> daftykins: yeah, but going back seems backwards to me.
[03:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: Anyways, what means that file?
[03:52] <Corvus`> I'd rather go forward.
[03:52] <daftykins> Corvus`: no, using non-LTS on a VPS is what's backwards :)
[03:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: To put it as you would
[03:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: My 2nd statement just a reminder that you are not the only one I attend with. I am active elsewhere also . Pur situation : X is happy and has no problem with synaptics " 4.071] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse0) " . We will have to look elsewhere for any problem.
[03:53] <MrCeeIII> ok i got the media info stuff.. shall i post it here
[03:53] <Corvus`> daftykins: Probably, but I'm not an ubuntu user, and at the moment I just picked the newest version they had.
[03:53] <daftykins> alright, but i'm telling you what's sensible :)
[03:53] <Corvus`> daftykins: you say next LTS release is 16.04?
[03:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Sure, I know that...
[03:54] <MrCeeIII> General Complete name                            : MOV012.wmv Format                                   : Windows Media File size                                : 14.9 MiB Duration                                 : 18s 240ms Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant Overall bit rate                         : 6 838 Kbps Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 8 288 Kbps Encoded date                             : UTC 2010-01
[03:54] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: don't ever paste to IRC.
[03:54] <daftykins> !paste
[03:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about resolving the incorrect display issues? Would reinstalling unity help, or...?
[03:54] <MrCeeIII> okok
[03:54] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: needs to be the full output ideally
[03:55] <daftykins> "mediainfo -f filename.ext"
[03:55] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359070/
[03:56] <MrCeeIII> how do you choose a certain person in here
[03:56] <Guest86085> guys I have a problem, my external hard drive doesn't auto mount on ubuntu 15.10
[03:56] <L0> Guest86085: then mount it manually
[03:57] <Amaury141> holaaa
[03:57] <ssmn> I shouldn't need to mount it manually, that is not the behavior it shows with any other storage media
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[03:58] <L0> or you can write the mountpoint in /etc/fstab
[03:58] <L0> ssmn: if the ext-hd is always plugged
[03:58] <Sargun> Any idea why my systemd process is using 2000 mb of RAM?
[03:58]  * MrCeeIII slaps DinCahill around a bit with a large fishbot
[03:58] <ssmn> it is not, I only connect it to this computer scarcely
[03:58] <the_count> And, Bashing-om, What did you mean by that mount -o command, is that still nessecary,? And, or is Unity a bad idea all-togather?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: As a poke what returns ' synclient -l ' Thar is a l for (L)ist .
[03:59] <L0> ssmn: then i'd recommend writing a bash script to do the mounting for you
[03:59] <Amaury141> you are bastard
[03:59] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: type the first characters of a nick then hit tab.
[03:59] <Amaury141> xD
[03:59] <L0> ssmn: so you can just execute the script when you plug it in
[03:59] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: test
[03:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Terminal scaling is ok, other portions are not
[03:59] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: stop that now.
[03:59] <MrCeeIII> okok
[03:59] <ssmn> but why is this happening, why with this drive alone?, is this a known bug in th elatest release or something?
[03:59] <zykotick9> !tab
[03:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: The remount was while you were in the "recovery console" by default in that environment the system mounts read only , if you need additional access you must make it so . Thus the 'remount' command .
[04:00] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: ^^
[04:00] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: where you able to see the properties of my media file?
[04:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Still couldn't find synaptics properties, and no-driver loaded
[04:00] <L0> ssmn: i have no idea, you might want to check /etc/fstab
[04:00] <MrCeeIII> zykotick9: yeah whats up
[04:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, got it, commited to memory
[04:00] <wafflejock> kilde: if it's a USB device you can use, lsusb to get the device id (should be the digits before the name of the device) can usually google that and the specific ubuntu version and find any issues
[04:01] <wafflejock> kilde: if you paste.ubuntu.com the output from lsusb can take a look too
[04:01] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: yes and i am still researching. which ubuntu version?
[04:01] <Amaury141> echo -e '\e[1;34mHolaaa\e[0m'
[04:01] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: sorry, just trying to point out TAB for irc nick auto completion...
[04:01] <ssmn> fstab is only showing the internal drive's partition
[04:01] <MrCeeIII> 14.04
[04:01] <daftykins> !info libavcodec1d trusty
[04:01] <MrCeeIII> zykotick9:  oh..ok
[04:01] <ssmn> I don't see any sort of log or anything that acknowledges the external drive whatsoever
[04:02] <ubuntu> test
[04:02] <ubuntu> Hello, my printer won't print on Ubuntu?
[04:02] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: close any open players then try "sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra" then try some players again
[04:02] <Bashing-om> CountessBathory: But, but we do have a driver ... anyway .. let;s re-install it ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' . reboot and let's see if that has any effect .
[04:02] <Guest55397> The printer has been install and sends to printer, but nothing prints?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: ^^ .. opps .
[04:03] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: so sudo apt etc. and the try vlc again... shall i reboot prior to trying...
[04:03] <Abe> ubuntu what is the type of your printer
[04:03] <Corvus`> daftykins: Thanks for the link, by the way. I thought cannonical literally deletes old repositories at EOL. :-D
[04:03] <Guest55397> Abe, it's a Canon LBP7200Cdn.
[04:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: What if we tried that for me? reinstalling xorg for me... Or was that message for me?
[04:03] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: shouldn't need to
[04:03] <MrCeeIII> rgr
[04:03] <Corvus`> daftykins: Turns out, they just move them to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. was for you . my apologoes to CountessBathory for the highlight .
[04:04] <Corvus`> Which is just awesome, why not leave them where they are?
[04:04] <Guest55397> I have downloaded the drivers and installed okay, but nothing comes out of the printer?
[04:04] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <sidenote re:synaptic driver> if the user can run "synclient" there is a _very_ good chance they have the "synaptic" driver installed
[04:04] <Guest55397> Windows 7 and Mac print ok.
[04:04] <Guest55397> so it's not the physical printer.
[04:05] <daftykins> Corvus`: yeah i don't need to know thanks, do this regularly ;) (provide the answer that is)
[04:05] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359191/
[04:05] <wafflejock> Guest55397: how is the computer connected to the printer? USB, network, wireless?
[04:05] <daftykins> Corvus`: because people such as yourself will keep using a dead release for months after and not realise something is very seriously wrong.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Can use all help here we can get . That is the thing, driver is installed but "synclient" is non-functional .
[04:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstalled and rebooting
[04:05] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: "dpkg -l | grep libavcodec | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:06] <CountessBathory> your apology accepted =)
[04:06] <Corvus`> daftykins: for what it's worth, you're right, I should've installed an LTS release, then I'd have this PITA 5 months later in april 2016.
[04:06] <daftykins> Corvus`: no 14.04 is good until 2019.
[04:07] <Corvus`> Really? Okay.
[04:07] <daftykins> there was sanity in my comment :)
[04:07] <Guest55397> wafflejock, I'm using a networked printer, and Ubuntu has found the IP and installed nicely.
[04:07] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ahhh, sorry for dropping in mid stream then.  i've got nothin' for failed synclient itself, sorry.  synclient is how i toggle disable/enable of my touchpad on my thinkpad (i also have the red mouse-button on the keyboard, so the touchpad just gets in the way sometimes while typing)
[04:07] <Corvus`> daftykins: Yes, there was. I just don't want to downgrade. I'd much rather upgrade again in april.
[04:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Still no luck, say I booted into an older kernel, do you think that would have any effect?
[04:08] <Guest55397> I suspect something with the drivers, but that low down level is complex to find what line of code might need fixed?
[04:08] <daftykins> Corvus`: 15.04 will be dead by the end of Jan, so you'll need to do two afaiui
[04:08] <Corvus`> daftykins: what about 15.10?
[04:08] <MrCeeIII> dafty... what did that do?
[04:09] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: create a URL to paste here
[04:09] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359237/
[04:09] <daftykins> !releases
[04:09] <wafflejock> Guest55397: some commands you can try here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems#Network_printer
[04:09] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: you just pastebin'd a pastebin URL
[04:10] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359237/
[04:10] <daftykins> no no, i got the URL the first time :P
[04:10] <Corvus`> daftykins: So, I can install 15.10, and have it covered till 16.04
[04:10] <MrCeeIII> oh ok
[04:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: Booting an older kernel may well be productive . Try and advise us of what results then with the display and the touchpad .
[04:11] <daftykins> Corvus`: if you upgrade twice right now, sure
[04:11] <daftykins> (if you survive ;) )
[04:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I will try that, how far back of a kernel should I try
[04:11] <wafflejock> Guest55397: if none of those commands help you could also try to watch with wireshark on the the ethernet interface and see if there's any communication going on back and forth between the printer and your computer but nmap and the like shown on that page should help to see what's going on as well
[04:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have from 3.16 to 3.19
[04:11] <Corvus`> daftykins: we all might not survive. :-)
[04:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ya got an original 3.13 kernel ?
[04:12] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: try "sudo apt-get install libavcodec54"
[04:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I installed it after then, so I don't think so... Maybe we could install one... or that may break more stuff
[04:13] <Guest55397> wafflejock, thanks, will walkthrought. Yes, I thought about transmission analysis, but wasn't sure if I had to go that low into the abyss.
[04:13] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: whole bunch of stuff happening now
[04:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Naw .. as you installed with HWE ( utopic) we do not want to re-introduce trusties kernel . try the 3.16 kernel .
[04:14] <Corvus`> daftykins: so. What are the chances it survives the downgrade? Comparing to two upgrades in a row?
[04:14] <Corvus`> yeah. Thought so.
[04:14] <MrCeeIII> what did that do?
[04:14] <daftykins> Corvus`: downgrades aren't supported
[04:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Right, I didn't think of that, rebooting now
[04:15] <Corvus`> daftykins: Oh, even better.
[04:15] <MrCeeIII> shall i attemt to open the file now?
[04:15] <daftykins> yes
[04:15] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: are these files from a cheap camera?
[04:16] <MrCeeIII> no it was pretty decent in its time... just some home movies of the kiddos
[04:16] <Corvus`> hehehe
[04:16] <Corvus`> home movies. Okay.
[04:16] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: mmm, well i'm sure they play fine on Windows... worst case scenario, they'd need converting
[04:17] <MrCeeIII> rgr...still not working although no probs with any other audio
[04:17] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: ok last idea is here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/171026/how-to-install-all-existing-media-codecs
[04:20] <Corvus`> daftykins: Don't they plan on releasing a rolling-release distro?  :-D
[04:21] <daftykins> don't ask me.
[04:22] <daftykins> that'd be 100% wrong for servers.
[04:22] <Corvus`> yeah. Because servers love to be reinstalled every once in awhile.
[04:22] <Corvus`> *cough*
[04:22] <daftykins> i'm confused, you seem to be saying it's dumb to do what you're doing
[04:23] <Corvus`> It is.
[04:23] <Corvus`> I don't mind admitting it. :-D
[04:23] <django_> guys
[04:24] <django_> how do i use my cam to take ictures lol
[04:24] <django_> pictures
[04:24] <daftykins> webcam?
[04:24] <Corvus`> daftykins: they just didn't have any rolling-release distros in stock for jump-starting VPS, and I didn't care enough to change the OS.
[04:24] <Corvus`> I still don't.
[04:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: Intersting, The oringinal 3.16 kernel actually detected the keyboard shortcuts, as well as having synaptics configured as it should be, Although anything prior to this kernel is extremely slow. After the origional kernel that was installed, synaptics settings did not stick, Initial renederd the display correctly except for the scaling, everything else did not
[04:25] <anonymous> hello
[04:25] <the_count> hi
[04:25] <Guest10495> german?
[04:25] <daftykins> Corvus`: i understand where you're coming from, fwiw i run LTS until maybe 6 months before it's about to go EOL... then i install the new version side by side and migrate my data - power off the old VM, then delete it once everything's comfortably moved.
[04:26] <daftykins> i write notes of how to set up that newer release at the same time
[04:26] <Corvus`> daftykins: that's a viable approach.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Think'n . Nother thought popped to mind .. as you have several kernels installed .. disk space ? what returns 'df -h ' ?
[04:26] <gopar> anyone using stumpWM?
[04:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359412/
[04:27] <Guest10495> ?
[04:28] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: thanks for the insight... it would suck if i had to play these on a bill gates machine :(
[04:28] <the_count> Guest10495: What do you need?
[04:28] <Corvus`> daftykins: can you choose the version you're dist-upgrading to?
[04:29] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: mmm not a hugely mature attitude - some of the comments here talk about conversion of a kind, i'm not sure they'd work though http://askubuntu.com/questions/185490/how-to-play-wmv-files
[04:29] <Guest10495> help
[04:29] <daftykins> Corvus`: sort of, in that LTS tends to only upgrade to LTS (best not to say dist-upgrade as that doesn't change release, of course) and non tends to upgrade to anything
[04:30] <daftykins> Guest10495: fur Deutsch gehen Sie zu #ubuntu-de
[04:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Need to empty downloads, that type of thing... But I have 4.4 gb of space currently
[04:30] <Bashing-om> the_count: UnGood "/dev/sda6        76G   68G  4.2G  95% / " . There is the need to address this . Let's pause nad picj this up tomorrow . I have had it for this session .
[04:30] <Corvus`> daftykins: ok, "do-release-upgrade-ing to"
[04:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: Before we stop quick, what should it be?
[04:32] <owen1> chromium show me this message: We've detected you're using an older version of Chrome. i am on 41.0.2272.76-0ubuntu1.1134.  is there a newer version? how do i upgrade?
[04:32] <daftykins> owen1: "cat /etc/issue" = ?
[04:32] <the_count> Guest10495: You have to say exactly what you need
[04:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: At 90% you are looking at framnetation of the file system. We want to get it down to about 40 % .(remove old kernels we will not use )
[04:33] <anonymous_> sorry
[04:33] <owen1> daftykins: Ubuntu 15.04
[04:34] <daftykins> !info chromium-browser vivid
[04:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ah, ok... Also, I do have an SSD, so no supprise defragmentations on me... Remember that.
[04:34] <daftykins> owen1: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy chromium-browser | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, i will talk to you tomorrow, have a good one!
[04:34] <Guest55397> wafflejock, ok, the printer checks are complete and the error I see is, printer not visible via DNS-SD/mDNS/BonJour.
[04:35] <mehdi__> sry for bothering u guys but my update manager is crashing and i need help :s
[04:35] <Guest55397> Where is the bug report I'm meant to post the Shell's output?
[04:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: K, we address the kernels then .
[04:35] <Guest55397> oh, I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[04:35] <wafflejock> Guest55397: can you use an IP instead of name for connecting the printer? I typically just do it by IP for network printers always more reliable than any name lookup
[04:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'll clear up some space also... I have been needing to do that anyways
[04:35] <owen1> daftykins: thanks. what does the nc command does?
[04:36] <daftykins> owen1: pastebins the result
[04:36] <MrCeeIII> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:36] <owen1> daftykins: amazing!
[04:36] <Guest55397> wafflejock, yes, I am using the IP 192.168.1.180, but the command $ avahi-browse -a -v -t -r showed IP addresses, but not the printer's IP.
[04:36] <wafflejock> Guest55397: ideally if your router lets you set a static IP for a device you can just set it there and connect by IP
[04:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Goodnight
[04:37] <Guest55397> wafflejock, yes, the printer is connected and passed all other Ubuntu printer tests, except the $ avahi comands.
[04:37] <anonymous_> thanks
[04:38] <daftykins> owen1: do you have a link created by that command?
[04:38] <mehdi__> Every time i check for new updates a failed window appears and says internet connection error or something like that
[04:38] <owen1> daftykins: i am still shocked with the nc command (: http://termbin.com/zh6r
[04:38] <Guest63045> hi
[04:39] <mehdi__> and nothing works so what can i do?
[04:39] <daftykins> owen1: cool, so that sees 45 fine - but what i'm concerned about is that if that was out of date, what else on your system was? have you been keeping current with updates?
[04:39] <anonymous_> German???
[04:39] <owen1> daftykins: no ):
[04:39] <daftykins> anonymous_: nein, nur Englisch
[04:39] <k1l> !de | anonymous_
[04:40] <daftykins> owen1: anyway to upgrade just chromium, close all open windows ideally and run "sudo apt-get install chroium-browser" or better yet, run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:40] <owen1> daftykins: i'll do the latter. thanks
[04:40] <daftykins> owen1: :) np
[04:40] <owen1> daftykins: it will just update the packages, not my ubuntu version, right?
[04:41] <daftykins> owen1: correct
[04:41] <owen1> can i keep my browser open?
[04:41] <owen1> daftykins: ^
[04:41] <daftykins> i'd avoid it if possible, you'll need to relaunch it to start v45 anyway
[04:41] <mehdi__> is there some one that can help me right now?
[04:41] <daftykins> owen1: you could bookmark all your tabs, or change the options so it keeps them open
[04:42] <daftykins> mehdi__: try from the terminal; "sudo apt-get update" to start with (first up though tell me what "cat /etc/issue" says
[04:42] <owen1> daftykins: i don't have any tabs open. i am just curious if it's ok to keep chromuium open while 'apt-get upgrade' is running
[04:42] <daftykins> i think it'd work fine, i just wouldn't :D
[04:43] <Corvus`> owen1: it's ok, it doesn't really care
[04:43] <owen1> cool
[04:43] <mehdi__> daftykins: it fails :S
[04:43] <daftykins> mehdi__: can you show it via http://paste.ubuntu.com ? are all package management programs closed? what was the output from my second command?
[04:44] <daftykins> !pm
[04:44] <edd> what is the best way to backup in ubuntu 15.10?
[04:44] <daftykins> !backup
[04:44] <edd> I am not getting how the backup s/w in ubuntu works
[04:45] <wafflejock> owen1: typically the program will be in memory and the changes won't affect it but doesn't hurt to close it to make sure none of the changes of closing the program overwrite upgraded config or anything (not typically a problem though)
[04:45] <Corvus`> daftykins: you have commands for everything, don't you?
[04:45] <owen1> wafflejock: got it
[04:45] <daftykins> Corvus`: just not trolls ;_;
[04:45] <Corvus`> daftykins: actually, I'm pretty sure you have commands for that too.
[04:45] <edd> the backups program has its buttons greyed out
[04:46] <edd> daftykins, so should I not be using the already supplied Backups tool that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:47] <mehdi__> daftykins its on paste.ubuntu.com ill try the sec command now
[04:47] <wafflejock> edd: if the backup location is setup and there isn't a backup running right now the button shouldn't be greyed out, that said you may want to just use rsync or grsync if you want a GUI to make the configuration for rsync
[04:47] <daftykins> mehdi__: i need the specific URL pasted, as unfortunately guessing the several digit URLs takes time :)
[04:48] <edd> wafflejock, I liked how the macosx would keep doing backups behind the scenes. I saw that Backups "claims" to do the same at least :)
[04:48] <mehdi__> daftykins: im on Ubuntu 10.10 \n \ :S
[04:48] <edd> just cannot see a backup location it writes to
[04:48] <wafflejock> edd: it does pretty much do the same but you have to configure the backup location either a network share or otherwise
[04:49] <edd> and I have a external USB drive that it can write to.. but then I might get lazy and not backup everyday
[04:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: I think it's time for your EOL lecture once again.
[04:49] <wafflejock> edd: should be in storage location
[04:49] <wafflejock> edd: I backup like weekly but have git for remote code being "backed up" and backups automated on my servers but don't take it as seriously on my personal machine either
[04:49] <edd> best would be if I had a remote location to store all this :(
[04:49] <mehdi__> daftykins: what can i do for now?
[04:50] <edd> wafflejock, I have a lot of PDFs and books that I download that I need to keep and wouldn't want to lose them
[04:50] <daftykins> mehdi__: that's been dead for 3 years i think.
[04:50] <wafflejock> edd: there are lots of remote options the backup tool here shows S3 or Rackspace as options, personally using a FreeBSD NAS
[04:50] <daftykins> mehdi__: backup and clean install 14.04
[04:51] <Corvus`> daftykins: See? Mine been dead only for a couple of months.
[04:52] <wafflejock> edd: have an external USB I configured with Clonezilla I use when I setup new systems but the more regular backups for my machine just go to the NAS that has RAID setup to mirror the data I feel pretty confident about that, but daily changes in code all go out to remote git server that has daily snapshots at AWS, all depends on how often you update things or make new data how often you need to backup though
[04:52] <ubuntu-mate> noob here. can I mount a /target from wubi.exe /ubuntu/disks/root.disk ext4 ??
[04:52] <wafflejock> edd: rsync is nice though cause can work over SSH (think locally too) and can recover from interruptions and do incremental backups (only sync things that have changed access/modify times)
[04:53] <edd> yeah I think a weekly one is enough.. the code etc can just go to a git repo or I use Dropbox for that
[04:53] <mehdi__> daftykins: am i suppose to install 14.04 by a USB driver? by downloading it from the website ?or there is a way to install it via the terminal?
[04:53] <edd> though with rsync I will have to write a script and run a cron job or something yeah?
[04:53] <edd> apparently Dejadup isn't that good.. looking at the reviews it doesn't look good at all
[04:53] <edd> recovery doesn't seem to work very well
[04:54] <Corvus`> mehdi__: 14.04 is also dead.
[04:54] <daftykins> mehdi__: you might be able to put the ISO on your /boot if it's a separate partition ; DVD or flash drive would be best
[04:54] <Corvus`> as is 14.10
[04:54] <daftykins> Corvus`: nope
[04:54] <daftykins> !14.04
[04:54] <daftykins> i'm typing from 14.04.3 right now.
[04:54] <Corvus`> Oh, 14.04 is an LTS?
[04:54] <Corvus`> Ok then.
[04:54] <wafflejock> edd: yeah DejaDup has been fine in my experience but the file format isn't as simple as a tar.gz of your data
[04:54] <daftykins> yep that's what i suggested installing :)
[04:55] <mehdi__> Corvus': i should go with what then?
[04:55] <wafflejock> edd: grsync helps you get the commands can basically be like a 1 or two line script depending on what you're wanting to do exactly
[04:55] <mehdi__> daftykins: Well thx m8 :)
[04:55] <Corvus`> mehdi__: I was wrong initially. 14.04 is an LTS release.
[04:55] <edd> wafflejock, just want to backup a few folders like /home
[04:56] <wafflejock> edd: but yeah would basically just be a small script with the source, target, and any ignores or whatever and a cron job to run it
[04:56] <mehdi__> Corvus': Oh ok thx m8 :)
[04:56] <Corvus`> mehdi__: as I've heard it's good till 2019.
[04:57] <Corvus`> sounds like a lot of work, btw
[04:57] <edd> wafflejock, that should be enough I suppose
[04:57] <edd> just wondering how best I can do it automatically to write to my USB drive
[04:57] <mehdi__> Corvus': Well, it will do the job then :) See ya!
[04:57] <wafflejock> edd: regarding backing up your home you might want to exclude .cache or if you use thunderbird might want to exclude that unless it's important to you since those files all change a lot
[04:58] <edd> ok
[04:58] <edd> am missing my mac already :)
[04:58] <edd> I could pick up files from like an hour or two ago that I had accidentally messed up
[04:58] <edd> should I be making local backups?
[04:58] <wafflejock> edd: eh there are trade offs, more customization sometimes means more work to get things how you want them too
[04:59] <edd> and then copy these backups to my USB drive?
[04:59] <wafflejock> edd: believe ZFS snapshots can give you the kind of functionality to roll back but haven't tried running it on my laptop/desktop yet just as a NAS
[04:59] <edd> I don't have another server to which I can remotely backup my files.. just a usb drive
[05:00] <edd> should I then do local backups and periodically move them manually to my usb?
[05:00] <edd> or make copies to my usb periodically
[05:00] <edd> ?
[05:00] <wafflejock> edd: eh I don't worry about having local backups just backup to the USB or NAS or whatever is available typically editors will have local history baked in as well, like IntelliJ for things that were like an hour or a day ago
[05:01] <bqllpd> I swear... google is completely useless now... can someone help me find a list for missing devel dependencies for installing rpl/2 from rpl2.net?
[05:02] <edd> wafflejock, its mostly stuff like presentation slides or something.. I sometimes have Libreoffice crash on me and then it cannot recover
[05:02] <edd> then I have to fix all the formatting screwups
[05:02] <edd> ok will just use grsync
[05:02] <wafflejock> edd: hmm yeah haven't had a great time with libreoffice present stuff myself typically I lean on Google Drive for the office tools
[05:03] <meeeen> what is BlackBuntu ?
[05:03] <wafflejock> edd: writer, draw and calc have been good but present does seem to still have some problems
[05:03] <daftykins> sounds unsupported and/or fake
[05:03] <edd> oh so you use their online ppt tools?
[05:03] <bqllpd> I found a site a while back that lists the missing dependencies from google, but it seems more and more often that google is censoring stuff so I can't find it again.
[05:03] <k1l> meeeen: not an official ubuntu version
[05:03] <wafflejock> edd: yeah have used the Google Slides, it's pretty good, not great but not terrible for my uses
[05:03] <edd> or you just upload your stuff to gdrive from time to time
[05:04] <edd> sometimes I end up using the ppt drawing tools
[05:04] <edd> I think I too will give google ppt stuff a shot
[05:04] <edd> better than Libreoffice screwing me over
[05:04] <meeeen> k1l: oh ok thx :)
[05:04] <edd> :)
[05:11] <Corvus`> I have an idea! I'll wait till 16.04 and then upgrade, how about that?
[05:16] <reisio> sounds silly
[05:19] <edd> wafflejock, what template do you use for the slides?
[05:20] <edd> I have a really nice simple one for mine with just a blank white one ... but for the title pages I have a dark black line that passes through
[05:21] <N|GGER> ubuntu sucks
[05:21] <N|GGER> the devs try too hard to make it look like windows
[05:22] <Corvus`> doesn't look much like windows to me...
[05:23] <k1l> dont mind the trolls.
[05:23] <somsip> Corvus`: please dont encourage the trolls
[05:23] <Corvus`> meh
[05:23] <Corvus`> It's a tradition.
[05:23] <regedit> hello
[05:23] <regedit> i'd like to download this tool for latest Ubuntu 15.04 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt-offline
[05:24] <regedit> what is the correct version, "stretch" or "sid" ?
[05:24] <somsip> !offline | regedit (use the repo package - I think this links to it)
[05:24] <somsip> regedit: maybe it doesn't link...
[05:25] <k1l> !info apt-offline vivid | regedit
[05:25] <k1l> why not use the original ubuntu package instead of ruining your system with using debian packages?
[05:26] <regedit> well they did just release a newer version (1.7) so i was hoping i could just get away with... using it?
[05:26] <regedit> not a good idea?
[05:26] <k1l> why do you need 1.7?
[05:26] <regedit> i dunno, because 7 is a greater number than 6?
[05:26] <regedit> :p
[05:27] <k1l> yeah, start with the original ubuntu package.
[05:27] <regedit> alrighty then
[05:27] <k1l> and when you find a reason why you really need the 1.7 then you can look for a ppa or such.
[05:27] <regedit> i dont think there are any ppas for it yet, this update is just about a week new
[05:28] <k1l> i bet you wont feel the difference anyway.
[05:28] <regedit> i would agree before counter betting on that :D
[05:28] <daftykins> chasing version numbers is a highly unproductive action :)
[05:29] <regedit> blame it on gaming, they've trained our minds to pursue the highest numbers, it feels like winning highest score ahahaha
[05:29] <k1l> regedit: yeah, thats really a curse and will bring you in hell on linux machines :)
[05:30] <regedit> while on the topic - this tool is rather smitten by severe case of catch 22, about which none of its official docs seem to address; how to bootstrap the offline machine? updated links to the latest .debs should be listed
[05:32] <regedit> do i point make? or what
[05:33] <regedit> ahem, misbehaving wifi aside, do i point make?
[05:34] <daftykins> that's not english, regedit
[05:34] <daftykins> and no, i come from a childhood of gaming and don't rush on numbers needlessly :P
[05:34] <daftykins> hmm looks like regedit got scrubbed
[05:37] <regedit> i mean about the catch 22 with apt-offline
[05:37] <stanreg> What is the ram threshold for which a web-browsing/light-programming user should start considering using zRAM?
[05:50] <wafflejock> stanreg: probably safe to say it's going to be better in most cases than dipping into swap space so if you use, free -m and see you're dipping into the swap it might not be a bad idea
[05:50] <reisio> stanreg: https://timos.me/blog/zram-to-enable-or-not-to-enable-229/
[05:52] <wafflejock> stanreg: personally use a chrome extension called the suspender for pausing tabs I have open in the background I want to be able to go back to but haven't viewed recently, can help to keep the browser memory usage more reasonable
[05:53]  * reisio uses bookmarks
[05:53] <stanreg> reisio, your link mainly discusses zram in the context of mobile phones; apples/oranges.
[05:54] <stanreg> wafflejock, hmm, you would think that browsers would compress the tabs you are not actively viewing... don't they?
[05:55] <reisio> you give them too much credit :)
[05:55] <wafflejock> stanreg: typically all the browser tabs in chrome (believe firefox too) run as separate processes but they don't actually suspend everything on the page when you switch tabs so video processing or whatever can resume on those pages in the background, hence the extension :)
[05:57] <stanreg> wafflejock, how does 'pauser' make the memory usage more reasonable? does it 'compress' the tab's space in memory when you pause it?
[05:58] <stanreg> gotta google that shit
[05:58] <wafflejock> stanreg: no just saves the URL and closes the process down for rendering and all I believe, you can tell it not to ever suspend certain tabs too or ones that have script on them seem to stay active like plnkr
[05:58] <wafflejock> then when you click in the tab body it reloads the page
[05:59] <stanreg> ...so it's just saving cpu-attention to that particular tab you paused.
[05:59] <jireh2009> hello
[05:59] <stanreg> hm
[05:59] <stanreg> wafflejock, is that extension from the google library? Can't find it.
[05:59] <jireh2009> is there any one can help me modify xfce
[05:59] <jireh2009> ?
[05:59] <wafflejock> stanreg: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-suspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg?hl=en
[06:00] <stanreg> Oh yeah, there. Let's read :)
[06:00] <stanreg> jireh2009, #xubuntu? #xfce?
[06:00] <wafflejock> jireh2009: modify is a broad term what do you want to change?
[06:00] <jireh2009> appearance
[06:00] <jireh2009> ??
[06:00] <jireh2009> is there any tut's about that ?
[06:01] <jireh2009> i just install xubuntu on lxle
[06:01] <wafflejock> jireh2009: haven't used XFCE much but some pages when I search on XFCE theming https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[06:01] <k1l> jireh2009: better ask the lxle guys then. they change some stuff there
[06:02] <jireh2009> ahh ok ... tnx for the info...
[06:04] <Li> how to add androind studio starting file to unity menu and stop using the command .. sh studio.sh?
[06:05] <wafflejock> Li you basically want to make a .desktop file for it, there's a handy program that helps with making them called alacarte, can sudo apt-get install alacarte then should be able to create the .desktop file there
[06:06] <wafflejock> Li basically desktop entry has what command to run and an icon and a few other optional things like keywords for search and file type associations
[06:07] <wafflejock> Li if you, cd /usr/share/applications/  you can see a lot of existing .desktop entries
[06:08] <Li> wafflejock: thank you for the great answer :)
[06:08] <Li> awsome
[06:08] <wafflejock> sure no problem :)
[06:11] <Li> how to open a termainal from file browser current location without having to switch back and forth between grid/list views? are there any keyboard shortcuts?
[06:12] <stanreg> wafflejock, what if you 'suspend' the tab while watching a video, and then reload it. Does the video resume from the same position?
[06:14] <wafflejock> stanreg: not sure about that honestly don't recall it being a problem so I think either it doesn't suspend those or Youtube is smart enough to resume otherwise think I would notice, I watch mostly short form stuff on YouTube though
[06:15] <stanreg> gotcha. Thanks!
[06:15] <wafflejock> Li I use nemo for my file browser it has a Open Terminal here option in the right click menu when I'm in a folder (has F3 for split pane view too which is why I use it mostly)
[06:16] <OerHeks> !info nautilus-actions
[06:16] <wafflejock> Li typically I just use "guake" for my terminals so just F9 to drop down the terminal (or whatever hotkey you decide to use) can Ctrl+L to get the address in most file browsers
[06:17] <wafflejock> -address/+path
[06:17] <wafflejock> address if you do it in a browser too thought typically
[06:20] <stanreg> wafflejock, you're going to like this: https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/09/tab-discarding
[06:20] <Li> wafflejock: F9 hides/shows the sidebar and Ctrl+L shows the address bar (which is good also I was looking for this option) how it possible to make ubuntu keep that address bar as a default?
[06:21] <Li> wafflejock: I'm trying alacarte now but not sure how to make the command for running this .sh file
[06:21] <Li> I added this which is not allowing me to finish the process "/home/john/Downloads/AndroidStudioPackages/android-studio-ide-141.2343393-linux/bin/sh studio.sh"
[06:25] <rizi> need help is exporting paths for GNU radio for python
[06:26] <rizi> *in
[06:26] <rizi> i have gnu radio installed but python is unable to import its module
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> rizi: maybe the #python guys can help you
[06:28] <rizi> i am not writing a script just want to run GNU radio
[06:29] <rizi> lotuspsychje, i even found the link for someone with same problem but i cant understand it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18140452/importerror-no-module-named-gnuradio-when-trying-to-execute-uhd-fft
[06:33] <Li> ok,, deconf-editor did the trick for the location path bar matter
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Li
[06:34] <Li> ubottu: Glad that you're glad I made it :D
[06:34] <Li> I love bots
[06:35] <Li> but I have reboot to check the new configureation
[06:35] <Li>  buhbye botty
[06:41] <Li> it didn't work, file browser is still not showing path
[06:43] <gopesh>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER gopesh ykzgcsmyyyrf
[06:44] <Li> :O
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> gopesh: better change password now
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Li: nobody knows what you are talking about, re-ask your question in one line once in a while
[06:46] <gopesh> lotuspsychje, i have changed my password
[06:47] <gopesh> did you know my password :P
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> gopesh: use the network status tab for register and identify
[06:48] <Li> lotuspsychje: how did you know that no one nows what I'm talking about?
[06:48] <Roxec> hello guys
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Li
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Roxec: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:49] <Li> !ask | lotuspsychje
[06:49] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, i was googling about ubuntu applications , i need to know if there is an application like vmware and oracle virtual box in ubuntu to add windows to it or other operating systems
[06:50] <OerHeks> kvm
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> Roxec: dont you like virtualbox?
[06:50] <pinPoint> hey, I had php-cli install break on me earlier. so I did a autoremove on apache2 and the issue is gone. What is php-cli mainly used in?
[06:51] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, you didn't got me
[06:51] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, i mean if i had ubuntu my only operating system on my laptop , is there a virtual box application in ubuntu app center to add operating systems to it ?
[06:52] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[06:52] <Roxec> OerHeks, thanks and sorry didn't know your talking to me about kvm
[07:02] <somsip> pinPoint: runnig PHP scripts in cli
[07:02] <danmulvey> hello! anyone have strong opinions on xmonad vs i3? i really wanna try out a tiling wm and they both look pretty sweet but im not sure which one i wanna start messing around with first
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> danmulvey: did you try the #i3 channel?
[07:05] <OerHeks> see the cons http://www.slant.co/topics/1902/compare/~i3_vs_xmonad_vs_awesome
[07:09] <danmulvey> lotuspsychje: not yet but i will now!
[07:09] <luffyUbuntu> lets talk man
[07:11] <danmulvey> OerHeks: thanks! reading it now
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | luffyUbuntu
[07:15] <Thete> Is sudo group called sudo or admin on ubuntu 15.10?
[07:15] <Ben64> should be sudo
[07:16] <OerHeks> type groups in terminal :-)
[07:23] <pinPoint> my nginx was built with the following terms. Are these specific to nginx or just gcc/make? --with-cc-opt='-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' --with-ld-opt='-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-s,-z,now'
[07:26] <YetiFur> Trying ubuntu-mate from live usb on 2009 white MacBook. No wireless internet or right click function. Take it after install I can wire connect and install a driver :? Stumped about the right click so help would be appreciated. Many thanks in advanced...
[07:27] <somsip> !mac | YetiFur
[07:28] <YetiFur> thanks for the link. I'll read it again...
[07:39] <CodeS3c> hello
[07:43] <Nyterax> hi, I need more space on /boot/. this is what I have there, what from that can I safely remove? http://pastebin.com/BGBtaNbT
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | Nyterax
[07:44] <OerHeks> remove oldkernels, usually do.
[07:45] <JesusSavesMe> Hi i put Eclipse executable in /usr/local/bin why does not Xubuntu menu generate it?
[07:46] <Nyterax> got bleachbit now, looks good
[07:46] <Nyterax> thanks
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> JesusSavesMe: how did you install eclipse?
[07:48] <JesusSavesMe> lotuspsychje, from website Eclipse 4.5
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> I put it in /opt/eclipse
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> extracted
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> JesusSavesMe: you need to install eclipse from repos
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> Nop
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> yep
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> Repos is outdated
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !latest | JesusSavesMe
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> eclipse 3.8 there
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> 4.5 is for me
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> But that's seperate discussion
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !info eclipse | JesusSavesMe
[07:50] <JesusSavesMe> I need to know why Xubuntu menu doesnt generate eclipse in menu because i put executable symlink in /usr/local/bin
[07:50] <somsip> JesusSavesMe: check this http://rdpzycho.blogspot.hk/2014/06/installing-eclipse-44-luna-on-xubuntu.html
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> i know how to install it
[07:51] <somsip> JesusSavesMe: if you read it it explains how to get the menu item to work...
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> Ok
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> I see
[07:52] <JesusSavesMe> So whisker menu doesnt check /usr/local/bin for apps?
[07:52] <JesusSavesMe> i have to put it in /usr/share/applications?
[07:55] <garret1> http://i.imgur.com/lFw6RXQ.png
[07:56] <ren0v0> Hi i have "Automatically check for updates" set to *never*. Yet i'm still getting a popup for new updates?
[07:59] <Kartagis> I've just installed wine, and when I click on an .exe, archive utility starts. any ideas?
[08:01] <Kartagis> garret1: you removed the url in the address bar but left it in top activa pages :)
[08:02] <garret1> yea :)
[08:03] <garret1> its blackfriday traffic
[08:03] <Nyterax> ok bleachbit didn't remove old kernels, do i have to do that manually?
[08:06] <cfhowlett> Nyterax, yes
[08:10] <tuor> hi, what ide for webdevelopment would your sugest? (easy to use is importent not to have many feature)
[08:10] <tuor> (ubuntu 14.04)
[08:11] <hateball> tuor: are you looking for a wysiwyg editor?
[08:12] <tuor> hateball, I don't know what a wyswyg editor is. I'm looking to edit my html and css and then just click a button to view it.
[08:15] <hateball> tuor: I havent used one in a looooooooong time, and I will bet they are outdated or unmaintained... but there is nvu, kompozer, bluefish... a google suggests there is a recent thing called bluegriffon
[08:17] <tuor> hateball, thx.
[08:19] <Erbershern> Hi, so I'm trying to repair a problem
[08:19] <Erbershern> with compiz
[08:19] <Guest3806> Hello, I just submited a bug report for a Canon LBP720Cdn printer not working on Ubuntu. Any other ways of troubleshoting. I walked through the network printer debug.
[08:20] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:20] <AQLIVE> Please ping me
[08:21] <Erbershern> On the login screen, I can see that a prompt to report a system error comes up, but it fades quickly, and the login screen is missing the top status bar. On attempting to login, I am immediately dropped back to the login screen. apport mostly shows that compiz is failing. Ubuntu 14.04.3
[08:22] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:22] <AQLIVE> Please ping me
[08:22] <Erbershern> may be related to gdbus
[08:22] <OerHeks> Guest3806, that model is not in the openprinting database .. http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Canon/
[08:23] <cfhowlett> !patience | AQLIVE,
[08:23] <AQLIVE> thanks
[08:25] <Guest3806> OerHeks, thanks. Does that mean it won't work? Canon provide a Linux driver and the printer installs ok. Just doesn't print.
[08:27] <OerHeks> Guest3806, i have no clue about that, just openprinting is the 1st place to check. canon is not that good supported.
[08:28] <Guest3806> OerHeks, ok. So I guess I would like to know how to make a driver to make unsuported printers work on Ubuntu.
[08:32] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:32] <OerHeks> Guest3806, not even supported in scangear http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/12/canon-driver-scangear-mp-ubuntu-14-04/
[08:39] <Guest3806> OerHeks, k, thanx.
[08:50] <noregret> everything i type in firefox is underlined in red, why? are there no default dictionaries in firefox? (15.10)
[08:58] <lucido> hi, what window manager and X-server does the default 15.04 desktop installation use?
[09:00] <kelvinella> hello
[09:00] <kelvinella> guys how to join ##php and message?
[09:01] <kelvinella> I cant send any message in ##php and I have some php questions to ask
[09:01] <somsip> !register | kelvinella
[09:02] <somsip> lucido: unity and Xorg
[09:03] <lucido> somsip, how do I start unity and Xorg? I nned it to set up simultanious muiltiple user vnc sessions according to this tutorial: http://www.freetutorialssubmit.com/Ubuntu+Remote+Desktop+multiple+users  . What should I put into .vnc/xstartup to start up an ubuntu desktop environment like the default one in 15.04.
[09:04] <somsip> lucido: no idea
[09:15] <matrixise> hi all
[09:15] <matrixise> do you know how can I develop a small widget for the unity interface ? I suppose it's defined in the freedesktop standard
[09:26] <lucido> having trouble vnc-ing into my ubuntu machine from windows. I can telnet port 5900 but the connection in vnc is rejected
[09:26] <lucido> I can log in from the machine to itself via vnc but not from the windows machine
[09:30] <guite> Hello everyone, I’m trying to install the lts enablement packages on my ubuntu trusty and I have more or less the same error than his => http://askubuntu.com/questions/588186/ubuntu-14-04-upgrading-hardware-enablement-stack-hwe-shows-unmet-dependencies
[09:31] <guite> I tries to install the lts trusty package (like in the answer) but it didn’t work…
[09:32] <guite> Do, any of you, know a workaround ? Do you think I should install the ltse for all distributions from trusty to vivid ?
[09:34] <Kartagis> I've just installed wine, and when I click on an .exe, archive manager starts. any ideas?
[09:34] <guite> Kartagis: launch it with wine in command-line… just in case :)
[09:34] <guite> Kartagis: wine your_app.exe
[09:35] <guite> Kartagis: there might be a way to associate automatically .exe files to wine but I don’t know how
[09:38] <lucido> can you use relvnc to remote into ubuntu desktops
[09:38] <lucido> ?
[09:41] <wmorri> lucido, according to their website it would appear so. I haven't used a vnc program in a long time though.
[09:42] <wmorri> lucido, also there is a remote desktop client installed already, if you want to use it, remmina remote desktop.
[09:42] <sprtizel> hi guys
[09:43] <sprtizel> anybody know how can I set the my path to get phantomjs that was installed via npm?
[09:44] <Nyms> Hello guys
[09:44] <Nyms> I a have huge issue with my ubuntu
[09:44] <Nyms> each time I lauch eclipse (java) xorgs take 100% of my cpu
[09:46] <rafgas> hello all. TIFU by installing linux mint with same /home as ubuntu. Nothing crucial happened, but could i rebuild ubuntu /home so that my applications reset?
[09:46] <rafgas> I will be removing linux mint, so its not a problem to break the mint application settings
[09:47] <hateball> rafgas: There's not really any way to "reset" applications other than remove their associated configs in ~/
[09:48] <rafgas> so applications that have new themes etc, i just find their .FOLDER and delete it?
[09:48] <rafgas> example : chrome has the linux mint theme which is ugly
[09:49] <rafgas> so i find %USER/.chrome and delete it all and reinstall chrome?
[10:00] <lettuce45> im updating to linux image 4.2.0.19 and its taking ages. What did you do to it?
[10:01] <lettuce45> configuring it never took so long, 4 minutes already
[10:03] <sz332> hello guys, i have a question. It seems that there is some problem with postgresql 9.4.5 (which is not there in 9.4.4) do you have any idea how i can enforce the installation of 9.4.4 instead of latest (9.4.5)?
[10:04] <Ubik_> is it a good choice to update kernel if the system is working properly?
[10:04] <Ubik_> (I have 4.2.0.18)
[10:07] <hateball> Ubik_: Yes, it is most usually security fixes. You will still have your old kernel installed and available until you run apt-get automremove
[10:08] <Ubik_> hateball: ok  thx for info
[10:08] <hateball> Ubik_: Apparently I cannot spell autoremove, but you get the point
[10:09] <Ubik_> hateball: yes...
[10:11] <Guest42324> hola
[10:11] <VsyachePuz> which process draws the main menu in ubuntu?
[10:12] <Guest42324> yaches
[10:12] <Guest42324> hello
[10:13] <wmorri> Guest42324, do you have a question? This is the support channel.
[10:21] <guruprasad> I'm learning about linux network namespaces and I am trying out things on a Ubuntu 14.04 vagrant VM. I have created a namespace and pair of peer virtual network devices and assigned one of them to the namespace.
[10:22] <guruprasad> I have also assigned each of them IP addresses so that both can ping each other
[10:22] <guruprasad> So how can I send the traffic from inside the namespace to the internet?
[10:22] <guruprasad> The network adapter with the internet access is in the global namespace as eth0 and the peer virtual interfaces are veth0 veth1
[10:23] <Nme85> u dont really need a dhcp for the devices to communicate but I think the logs can be useful for forensics
[10:23] <Nme85> well by default
[10:23] <Nme85> Ill be quiet now b4 I confuse some1 or myself
[10:31] <TJ-> guruprasad: are you using veth interfaces on host and netns ?
[10:32] <BeerLover> why does rm give this prompt rm: remove regular empty file ‘test’?
[10:33] <BeerLover> i did alias rm='rm -rf'
[10:33] <BeerLover> even after that
[10:33] <BeerLover> it prompts
[10:34] <auronandace> not the wisest alias
[10:34] <TJ-> BeerLover: that's a recipe for disaster!
[10:35] <madaal> Could someone help me with a command line problem, I need to run a program in background then run a second program and then be able to stop the first one when the second terminate
[10:36] <Ben64> madaal: program1 & program2 && kill program1
[10:38] <TJ-> madaal: "command1 &; PID=$!; command3; kill -TERM ${PID}"
[10:40] <madaal> Thanks for the responses, I will try, just for my personal information, what's the difference between &; and &
[10:41] <Daniyal> Hi, How long does your ubuntu 14.04 take to load after login with hdd?
[10:41] <BeerLover> TJ-, why?
[10:42] <TJ-> BeerLover: wouldn't take much of a slip at the keyboard to accidentally delete an entire heirachy, since you have '-f' (force) option there
[10:42] <auronandace> Daniyal: depends on your hardware and desktop, with unity several seconds to load after logging in
[10:43] <BeerLover> TJ-, rm -i is for people who don't think before deleting
[10:43] <Daniyal> thanks auronandace, it's take 40 sec for me, is it normal?
[10:43] <BeerLover> rm -rf is for people who are careful or want to learn how to be careful
[10:43] <Daniyal> with ci3 4g ram
[10:44] <lettuce45> which would you keep cslite or cookie controller? firefox addons. I dont need both, do I?
[10:44] <auronandace> Daniyal: installed anything unusual lately?
[10:44] <TJ-> BeerLover: right, and then run a script that calls 'rm $SOME_DIR' and executes "rm -rf $SOME_DIR"
[10:44] <Daniyal> auronandace, no
[10:44] <guruprasad> TJ, yes veth1 is in the global namespace on the host and veth0 is in a network namespace and it is a peer of veth1
[10:45] <TJ-> guruprasad: are you using a bridge on the host ?
[10:46] <BeerLover> why would someone call rm some_dir when rm doesn't work for directories unless you have -rf
[10:46] <BeerLover> ?
[10:46] <guruprasad> TJ-, no I am not using a bridge
[10:46] <TJ-> BeerLover: 'someone' may be a script that is accidentally run against a directory name
[10:47] <BeerLover> LOL
[10:48] <TJ-> guruprasad: so you've assigned an address and default gateway to veth0 using "ip netns exec .. ifconfig veth0 ..." and "ip netns exec ... ip route add default ..." ?
[10:48] <guruprasad> TJ-, yes I have
[10:49] <VsyachePuz> Is unity-panel derived from gnome-panel? Does this mean, that it is possible to add "panel applet" to unity panel?
[10:51] <TJ-> guruprasad: I'd suspect its because you haven't bridged on the host, so you'll need a specific route aded to the host's routing table to route to veth0 for replies. Run 'tcpdump' on the host to confirm the netns is sending packets out but replies aren't being routed back to it by the host
[10:51] <Ubik_> VsyachePuz: good question
[10:54] <TJ-> !info unity-panel
[10:54] <guruprasad> TJ-, not sure I understood your reply. If I run 'ping 8.8.8.8' from the namespace, it gets as far as the peer interface in the global namespace. But from there how does it go out to the internet?
[10:55] <dirchev> clear
[10:55] <TJ-> guruprasad: routed as any other packet, but then when a reply arrives the host needs to know to route the destination IP address to veth0 since you're not bridging
[10:57] <lettuce45> NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45, what I tried: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -63F7D4AFF6D61D45 , but that didnt work. What am I doing wrong?
[10:58] <guruprasad> TJ-: There is a route like this already on the host - "10.1.1.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 veth0"
[10:58] <Kartagis> does t in filenames recovered by photorec mean thumbnail?
[11:01] <noregret> everything i type in firefox is underlined in red, why? are there no default dictionaries in firefox? (15.10)
[11:03] <TJ-> guruprasad: so does tcpdump show the replies arriving on veth0 in the netns?
[11:09] <madaal> TJ- I've tried you solution for the background task, but it give me an error (-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;') when using &;
[11:09] <guruprasad> TJ-, I see ARP requests on veth0 when I run tcpdump
[11:10] <guruprasad> I am running ping 8.8.8.8 from the namespace
[11:10] <onto> Hi! I upgraded my installation to Trusty and now I can't install libsdl1.2-dev. It complains about missing dependencies. How do I fix this?
[11:10] <onto> Here are the errors: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ba73d39e7361b734b27e
[11:11] <onto> Trying to install libglu1-mesa-dev gives even more dependency issues.
[11:15] <TJ-> madaal: oh sorry, my typo, there shouldn't be a ; after the &: "command1 & PID=$!; command3; kill -TERM ${PID}"
[11:17] <madaal> Thanks it seems to work !
[11:18] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[11:23] <ioannis_> hello people
[11:23] <ioannis_> new in U mate
[11:27] <dengxinjun> hello
[11:27] <dengxinjun> Who is here?
[11:27] <dengxinjun> Who's here?
[11:27] <dengxinjun> ?
[11:27] <Kadsh> ?
[11:33] <Cong> hello help
[11:35] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[11:37] <azi`> hm. I did sudo apt-get remove wine* and now when I log into the system I don't see the toolbar and all the gnome things
[11:37] <azi`> is there a way I could undo this?
[11:39] <hateball> azi`: check /var/log/apt/history*
[11:39] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> @nya I think the dependent packages got deleted by you
[11:39] <hateball> azi`: then you can see what was removed, if there are obvious gnome packages missing
[11:39] <azi`> hateball: thanks
[11:41] <azi`> hateball: is there a way to redo the last remove? or a way to quickly install whatever is listed in history.log in /var/apt?
[11:41] <hateball> azi`: None that I know
[11:42] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> use synaptic package manager to download the stuff to a separate folder
[11:42] <azi`> hateball: I have the list of packages but i cannot directly do apt-get install. i'd need to parse it a bit :/
[11:42] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> that way synaptic is useful for re-use of packages
[11:43] <hateball> azi`: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247549/is-it-possible-to-undo-an-apt-get-install-command there are scripted solution
[11:44] <hateball> azi`: but yes, that's all that exists. parsing the log. there's nothing built-in to apt
[11:45] <azi`> hateball: unfortunately i am not under X atm =)
[11:47] <hateball> azi`: right, well it just lists various grep's, but they are for removing what was installed. not the other way around
[11:47] <hateball> azi`: anyhow, I dont know the meta-package for gnome, but cant you apt-get install --reinstall it?
[11:48] <cyberalex4life> azi`, the meta for gnome used to be ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[11:49] <cyberalex4life> azi`, you can also install tasksel, then 'sudo tasksel install' and choose from menu Ubuntu Gnome
[11:50] <azi`> hateball: cyberalex4life thanks
[11:50] <azi`> hopefully it installs what's needed now
[11:52] <hateball> azi`: it should get you a working X environment at the very least
[11:53] <cyberalex4life> ubuntu-gnome-desktop installs full ubuntu gnome
[11:58] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:07] <AQLIVE> Anone here who know how to get my windows partition working again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13350745/
[12:08] <adam__> Salve
[12:09] <AQLIVE> anyone here who know how to recover a bootpartition?
[12:10] <MeltedLux> AQLIVE: boot-repair would be the easiest way
[12:10] <MeltedLux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:10] <AQLIVE> I tried that
[12:10] <AQLIVE> and that did not holp
[12:10] <AQLIVE> I got this though http://paste.ubuntu.com/13350745/
[12:12] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: what happens when you try to boot windows?
[12:12] <unrar> hey hey
[12:13] <AQLIVE> It does not load at all. The boot loader can only see the ubuntu installation
[12:13] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[12:14] <AQLIVE> yes
[12:14] <AQLIVE> well I'm on my mac right now
[12:14] <AQLIVE> but I have the ubuntu machine close
[12:15] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo update-grub
[12:15] <EriC^^> which windows is it?
[12:15] <AQLIVE> 7
[12:15] <EriC^^> ok
[12:15] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[12:17] <AQLIVE> well another issue is that I now went from Grub to MBR and now nothing will boot. Now it want me to insert the windows 7 media and I guess I'm now 100% stuck untill I get that media right?
[12:17] <AQLIVE> og can I somehow get back into ununtu
[12:17] <EriC^^> grub to mbr?
[12:17] <AQLIVE> I used Gparted and edited the grub loader to MBR instead
[12:18] <unrar> Have you tried something like SuperGRUB Recover?
[12:18] <AQLIVE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:18] <unrar> I use it when my MBR goes nuts and I have to boot into Ubuntu to fix everything, it's like "GRUB on a disk"
[12:18] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: what do you mean you edited the grub loader to MBR instead
[12:18] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: i dont think you have UEFI
[12:19] <unrar> check it out --> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[12:19] <AQLIVE> But is that a way - now to get back into ubuntu
[12:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: you can use a live usb to get into it
[12:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: still unclear as to what you did though..
[12:20] <unrar> What's your problem AQLIVE, you can't boot into neither Ubuntu nor Windows?
[12:20] <EriC^^> grub wasn't adding windows
[12:20] <AQLIVE> I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:21] <EriC^^> so he probably needed to make an entry manually, not sure what he did though
[12:21] <unrar> If that's so, use Supergrub disk to boot into Ubuntu and then run `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` and `sudo update-grub` and it'd probably be fixed.
[12:21] <unrar> Oh, I'm not familiar with UEFI stuff so I'm not sure if that'd work.
[12:21] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: you keep pasting that link, what exactly did you follow there?
[12:21] <AQLIVE> In the 6'th picture is where I made it MBR instead of Grub
[12:22] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: separate /boot/efi ?
[12:23] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: anyways, do you have a live usb?
[12:23] <AQLIVE> Yes
[12:24] <EriC^^> boot it
[12:25] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[12:25] <EriC^^> lvleph: ask in a mac channel, they'd probably know more if nobody knows here
[12:26] <EriC^^> #osx i think
[12:26] <AQLIVE> Ohh fu.. I erased that too. Well I post in a couple of minutes when I have that one back
[12:26] <EriC^^> ok
[12:29] <lvleph> EriC^^: I will try that. Thanks.
[12:29] <EriC^^> np
[12:29] <ubuntu> maow
[12:32] <woodworker> hi, i have a problem after updating to 15.10, thinkpad t440p, no sound on headphone after the update
[12:32] <woodworker> internal speakers play sound
[12:32] <woodworker> i only found a open quenstion in the ubuntu community via google
[12:33] <woodworker> http://askubuntu.com/questions/694659/no-sound-in-headphones-after-upgrade-to-15-10
[12:36] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, try installing pavucontrol and play a little bit with it, see if something happens
[12:37] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, you can also do this: 'pulseaudio -k', then 'pulseaudio -v' to see if something wrong happens
[12:40] <woodworker> the volume bar is showing that something is happening on the headphone port
[12:40] <bencc1> what can I use to monitor and alert disk health in a RAID 1 setup on ubuntu server?
[12:40] <TJ-> bencc1: "man mdadm" - it can be configured to send emails
[12:42] <bencc1> TJ-: reading. thanks
[12:43] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, I am now on manjaro gnome, and I had some issues with some games in steam regarding pulseaudio, Using alsa may fix your problem. Those games were same, they appeared but had no sound. You have to debug it, maybe get an error message hopefully
[12:46] <Yaiyan> Linux still gets sound trouble?
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> Hello all,, my problem is i cannot get .wmv files to play augio on my laptop.... anyone????anyone????
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> adio
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> audio
[12:48] <noregret> MrCeeIII: which player?
[12:48] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, some codec missing maybe, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:49] <MrCeeIII> i have VLC.. and installed teh ubunto-restricted-extras
[12:50] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, some other player?
[12:50] <noregret> maybe your speakers are off, try turning them off and on again
[12:50] <MrCeeIII> i am willing to pay for a player if one suggest.
[12:50] <MrCeeIII> i tried mplayer too
[12:50] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, audacious for audio
[12:51] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[12:51] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life:  ok thanks when i get home i will try that.... question can it be found in the ubuntu software center
[12:53] <cyberalex4life> if it's not (if it is it's old usually) try the ppa from the page: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/install-audacious-35-in-ubuntu-1404-or.html
[12:53] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, did you restarted vlc after ubuntu-restricted-extras installation?
[12:57] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life:  yes i did.... not sure i reinstalled after the extras tho... I will try the other palyer tonight... question when will you be back so i can let you know how it went?
[12:59] <storman> hi
[12:59] <storman> e
[12:59] <storman> is someone online?
[12:59] <ikonia> many people
[12:59] <Kadsh> No
[12:59] <Kadsh> or
[12:59] <storman> haha
[12:59] <Kadsh> Yes
[13:00] <storman> how are you?
[13:00] <ikonia> well, how can we help storman ?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> storman, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[13:00] <storman> i don't know
[13:00] <ikonia> storman: you've joined #ubuntu an IRC channel for ubuntu linux distribution support
[13:00] <storman> ok
[13:03] <nhyk> just a quick question: under windows i have to press the "^" on the keyboard twice to get the "^^" emoticon, under ubuntu i have to press it 4 times, how do i change that? its a small issue, but it's getting annoying :D
[13:04] <Kadsh> hahaha
[13:04] <Kadsh> I don't know but I can live with it
[13:04] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, don't count on that. Anyway I use smplayer for video and youtube and audacious for audio. The thing you should try is start some players in command line playing your files
[13:06] <ikonia> nhyk: that makes no sense
[13:06] <ikonia> nhyk: a key press is a key press if you want 2 characeter, you press it 2 times, why would you need to press it 4 times
[13:06] <ikonia> are you saying it's not registering the key press ?
[13:06] <woodworker> nhyk: did you enabled us-intl keyboard schema?
[13:07] <woodworker> because there ^ is a compose charachter
[13:07] <woodworker> for writing stuff like â
[13:07] <woodworker> try to hold down right alt + the ^ key
[13:08] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life: rgr... thanks will try smplayer too..... and will look for you on SAT
[13:10] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, ok, but being on IRC today, was an exception for me, since I have a lot of work and needed to relax, but you can look for me, maybe I'll be here
[13:10] <nhyk> ikonia, it also works if i press the "^" key and after that the space key ... or if i press the ^ key once and then a it "transforms" to â ... but i would like to have it like in windows ... press the "^" key twice, "^^" is coming up ... under ubuntu i have to press it 4 times or "^" key>space>"^"key>space to have it appear as "^^" ... sorry for my bad english btw
[13:10] <ikonia> nhyk: in what application ?
[13:11] <ikonia> or is this in generic text input windows
[13:11] <nhyk> ikonia, happens on all applications in my ubuntu
[13:11] <ikonia> very odd
[13:12] <cyberalex4life> nhyk, you could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' and choose another keyboard from there. I you have nothing to change, don't move to another selection on those pages.
[13:13] <cyberalex4life> this would be global keyboard selection
[13:19] <AQLIVE> ok I'm back Eric EE
[13:19] <AQLIVE> should I now install or try ubuntu?
[13:20] <nhyk> cyberalex4life, woah ... i selected "german without accent keys" on the 3rd page and now it works like in windows, you are awesome man ... i did not knew about that command. Thank you very much Sir :)
[13:21] <nhyk> the other settings i left like it was
[13:23] <nhyk> still weird ubuntu thinks i need accent keys ... i do not type swedish or something :D
[13:25] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try ubuntu
[13:26] <dym> Does anyone know why this supervisord script just exit? https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ey0JyQMB
[13:26] <arcsky> guys, sudo dpkg --remove splunk , still lots of files left after removeing it, how can i clean up everyting?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> autoremove and autoclean
[13:28] <hateball> arcsky: what do you want to clean up? apt-get purge, will murder configs etc
[13:28] <BluesKaj> or sudo apt purge splunk* , but that can be dangerous
[13:39] <nitish> Is there any good shooting game availe in ubuntu store?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !games | nitish
[13:40] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[13:42] <zeitalex> what company stands behind linux mint?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> zeitalex, ask mint.
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !mint } zeitalex
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !mint | zeitalex
[13:43] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !patience | demarco,
[13:43] <cfhowlett> asking every 2 minutes is asking WAY too much ....
[13:43] <k1l_> demarco: what gives you "uname -a" and "lsusb" and "lspci" please put that into a paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[13:44] <nitish> demarco: take a look in askubuntu.
[13:45] <nitish> How can I develop applications for ubuntu? I mean which language is needed?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> nitish, many languages.
[13:45] <k1l_> nitish: "depends" :)
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !contribute | nitish
[13:46] <nitish> cfhowlett: like
[13:46] <cfhowlett> read.
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: i would start with qt since that will be native on the "new" ubuntu (which is already on ubuntu smartphones" and will be after 16.10 on the desktop)
[13:46] <nitish> k1l_ depends upon what?
[13:46] <zebensui_ASIR> Hello
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: depends on what you actually want to do and where it should run
[13:46] <nitish> k1l_: is "qt" a programming language?
[13:47] <k1l_> nitish: no, its a toolkit
[13:47] <k1l_> nitish: see the link to the developer site
[13:47] <nitish> k1l_: I have previous experience of java, c, c++ and php. can I use it in developing anything for ubuntu?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> nitish, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/
[13:49] <k1l_> nitish: seems that QML runs with javascript and c++
[13:50] <demarco> @K1l: please how do i access paste bin, I'm new here
[13:50] <k1l_> nitish: better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel about that
[13:50] <codeS3c> test
[13:50] <codeS3c> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !test | codeS3c
[13:50] <demarco> @mitish: Ask ubuntu are just unreliable and very slow in responding to problems, I have asked this question since 2 weeks ago but got no response
[13:51] <k1l_> demarco: its like uploading a photo. copy our text, put it onto paste.ubuntu.com and then click send. you get a new link, show that here
[13:51] <codeS3c> hello all :)
[13:51] <Liza> hello
[13:52] <cfhowlett> demarco, from command line, run your command and add this text directly after the command               |nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <persisto> Hi I have followed the instructions on killers website to get my Killer 1535 card in my laptop to work with ubuntuGNOME. The instructions I followed are here: http://www.killernetworking.com/support/knowledge-base/17-linux/20-killer-wireless-ac-in-linux-ubuntu-debian
[13:52] <persisto> I was hoping someone here can help me out
[13:52] <persisto> thanks in advance
[13:52] <codeS3c> @liza where your from ?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> persisto, so what was your question???
[13:53] <gzoo> When installing a python application via apt-get, does it also download its python dependencies? what happens after an apt-get remove?
[13:53] <demarco> okay cfhowlett
[13:53] <Liza> UAE
[13:53] <cfhowlett> codeS3c, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:53] <persisto> How do I get my Killer 1535 working under UbuntuGNOME
[13:53] <persisto> sorry i wasn't more clear
[13:53] <demarco> okay K1l
[13:54] <Liza> how to access sqlserver from ubuntu os
[13:54] <Liza> any aidea
[13:55] <demarco> @K1L and cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365589/
[13:57] <k1l_> demarco: so its a 15.10 and not a 15.04, right? (lsb_release -d gives the right version number)
[13:59] <demarco> its 15.04
[13:59] <demarco> i down graded to 15.04
[13:59] <demarco> from 15.10 cos 15.10 sucks seriously
[13:59] <k1l_> demarco: oh well, downgrades dont work on ubuntu
[13:59] <k1l_> demarco: you now have an awfull mix there
[13:59] <demarco> 15.10 kept on giving me black screen and so so slow
[14:00] <demarco> i mean i did fresh installation
[14:00] <demarco> so what do I do k1l
[14:00] <k1l_> demarco: i doubt that. you got the 15.10 kernel there
[14:01] <TJ-> demarco: can you show us "ls -l /boot/"
[14:01] <demarco> so how can we fix the situation k1l? I really don't like 15.10, it crashes all the time and to slow, so is there a way to resolve this issue
[14:01] <RafasnbBR> how to install ubuntu 15.10 vm in parallels 10 for mac? https://t.co/sTy3brDCdH
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !mac | RafasnbBR
[14:03] <k1l_> demarco: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image " in a pastebin please
[14:03] <RafasnbBR> ubottu: installing using parallels is not possible... many errors
[14:04] <cfhowlett> RafasnbBR,  see the mac link I already sent you
[14:06] <k1l_> RafasnbBR: well it runs in other virtualisation managers like vbox, vmware etc. so it might be parallels task to solve that :/
[14:06] <demarco> @k1L: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365678/
[14:06] <k1l_> demarco: reboot then
[14:07] <k1l_> demarco: you run a 4.2 kernel but that is not installed. something is heavily wrong on your system
[14:07] <demarco> k1L; you mean i should reboot now
[14:07] <RafasnbBR> k1l_: parallels have failed support...
[14:07] <carlos_> server irc.explosionrc.net
[14:08] <carlos_> server irc.explosionirc.net
[14:08] <cfhowlett> carlos_, no spam thank you
[14:08] <k1l_> demarco: can you explain why you run a 4.2 kernel (the one from 15.10) while there is none 4.2 installed and you say its a brand new 15.04 system?
[14:08] <k1l_> carlos_: irc commands start with a /
[14:08] <demarco> 4.2 kernel is for 15.10 which was initially installed, then i reinstalled ubuntu using 15.04
[14:09] <k1l_> demarco: i think you missuse the "reinstall" here. reinstall meaning using a 15.04.iso and formating the disk and installing a 15.04.
[14:11] <demarco> k1L: what i did was to reinstall using 15.04 iso image, without losing my files
[14:12] <k1l_> demarco: can you show a "ls -al /boot" in a pastebin?
[14:12] <demarco> I already have files on the 15.10, so I just reinstalled 15.04 on the 15.10 OS, to over write it
[14:12] <demarco> okay will do that now sir
[14:12] <kang__> 嗨
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !cn | kang__
[14:13] <kang__> 你们好
[14:13] <kang__> I'm in China
[14:13] <demarco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365723/
[14:13] <cfhowlett> kang__, yes I kind of figured that out.
[14:13] <kang__> Arevyou OK?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> kang__, do this:    /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:14] <demarco> @k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365723/
[14:14] <Tashtari> Hm... anyone know how the [999999.999999] timestamps ubuntu's console uses can be translated to something readable?
[14:14] <k1l_> demarco: so there is the issue. you still got a lot of 15.10 files and stuff in your system. like the old 15.10 kernel 4.2 and since your system doesnt know that is installed but the grub is using that since its installed, you have a mixed system now.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> demarco, wouldn't hurt to clean out most of those old kernels
[14:15] <k1l_> demarco: that is the reason why we dont support downgrades (you did a downgrade and not a clean install)
[14:16] <k1l_> demarco: you can try to remove those old kernels (everything that is not 3.19) and then reboot.
[14:17] <demarco> how will i do that guys, please help
[14:17] <demarco> i dont want to lose my current files
[14:17] <cfhowlett> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[14:17] <TJ-> k1l_: if it's a separate /boot/ that would be expected though; demarco can you show us "pastebinit <( mount )" ?
[14:17] <demarco> k1l: how do I remove everything sir
[14:18] <k1l_> cfhowlett: that doesnt work since his downgraded 15.04 now only knows about th 3.19 kernels packagewise
[14:18] <demarco> TJ i have two partitions
[14:18] <demarco> okay let me do it
[14:19] <TJ-> demarco: if there's a separate partition for a /boot/ file-system, and when you run the installer you choose NOT to format that /boot/ FS, then what we see there is expected. The reason the system boots with the 4.2 kernel is update-grub scripts use the latest kernel version as the default GRUB menuentry
[14:19] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365777/
[14:20] <k_sze> Has anybody successfully installed and booted Ubuntu 15.10 Desktop 64-bit in VirtualBox on a Mac OS X host?
[14:20] <k_sze> Hi TJ-, heh
[14:20] <dqn> hey, anyone knows what the purpose of ~/.Mix/ is (or where it could have come from if it isn't in raw ubuntu)?
[14:20] <demarco> yeah, i have two partitions, and get asked to choose where to boot from
[14:20] <k_sze> I can't get my Ubuntu VM to boot.
[14:20] <demarco> i am running 14.10 and 15.04 currently
[14:21] <TJ-> demarco: OK, the system doesn't have a separate /boot/ file-system according to that - not mounted anyhow, so can you do "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )" please
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !14.10 | demarco
[14:22] <k_sze> A bit into the booting process, the Ubuntu VM seems to want to switch screen resolution a couple of times (the VirtualBox window should change size several times), and then nothing.
[14:23] <gjeet> Hello! Any Google Code In mentors online?
[14:23] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365806/
[14:23] <k_sze> oh wait, it's just wonky
[14:23] <demarco> @sorry meant 14.04
[14:23] <cfhowlett> msdos table?  seriously?  not on ubuntu!
[14:24] <demarco> @ubottu: meant 14.04
[14:24] <TJ-> demarco: and now "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f )" please
[14:26] <conformist> hello
[14:26] <conformist> или тут по-русски тоже можно?
[14:26] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365832/
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !ru | conformist
[14:27] <hathway> eae
[14:29] <TJ-> demarco: All that seems to suggest you didn't reformat the file-system in /dev/sda1 when you install from the ISO installers, which means files from different Ubuntu releases are blindly over-writing existing files. The fact that /dev/sda1/boot/ contains so many different kernel versions confirms what k1l_ said earlier; the system is in a mess
[14:30] <demarco> so is it the reason why my sound, wireless and usb are not working in 15.04 partition but working in 14.04?
[14:30] <TJ-> demarco: if you want to retain your per-user files and configuration have a separate file-system for /home/, and if you want to boot multiple releases have a separate /boot/.
[14:30] <demarco> the system is okay and fine, except for my voice, wireless and usb @TJ
[14:30] <TJ-> demarco: that is NOT 'okay and fine' when such major parts are broken!
[14:31] <demarco> okay i understand TJ, the only issue i have is with sound, wireless and my usb ports, can it be resolved please ?
[14:31] <TJ-> demarco: if you have any personal files in $HOME/ or elsewhere I'd recommend backing them up to either another partition, or another device, then reinstalling cleanly into /dev/sda1
[14:31] <TJ-> demarco: yes. install cleanly.
[14:34] <demarco> okay TJ, can I shrink my drive and allocate more partition to my 14.04...so I will transfer all my files to 14.04 partition and just delete 15.04
[14:34] <demarco> i think its easier that way
[14:35] <cfhowlett> demarco, LTS generally leads to far fewer heartbreaks.  bleeding edges are bloody
[14:35] <TJ-> demarco: drives cannot be shrunk :) And I'd recommend against trying to shrink an existing file-system and partition, you'll break it more
[14:37] <demarco> but that was how i partitioned the 14.04
[14:37] <demarco> okay TJ
[14:38] <TJ-> demarco: if it were me and wanted to use multiple releases, I'd have partitioned the drive with 3 primary partitions: 1. /boot/ = 1GB, 2. swap = 4GB, 3 = the remaining space. Then I'd assign sda3 to an LVM VG, and create LVs within it for the various releases, so I could easily assign/grow/shrink/re-assign disk space to the various releases, and have separate /home/ LV shared amongst them
[14:39] <TJ-> demarco: but as you know have a fixed partition drive, you need to put a clean install in /dev/sda1, which means backing up all the important files, configurations, and programs you have there, to another location. If there isn't space in the 14.04 file-system you'll need an external device (maybe a USB mass storage device)
[14:40] <TJ-> s/know have/now have/
[14:41] <demarco> but my USB ports are not working?
[14:41] <TJ-> demarco: do it from the 14.04 install
[14:42] <TJ-> demarco: mount /dev/sda1 inside that to access the files
[14:42] <demarco> 14.04 cannot detect all the files in 15,.04
[14:42] <demarco> thats the issue
[14:42] <TJ-> demarco: errr, that makes no sense.
[14:42] <demarco> can I manually mount the external drive via terminal
[14:43] <TJ-> demarco: I have to leave now; others can give further advice on accessing files
[14:44] <demarco> okay thanks TJ
[14:48] <donguston> Is there a way to create a "fake" screen of any resolution I want?
[14:48] <donguston> I dont have one physically connected, but want to use nx to get remote desktop
[14:53] <debug0x1> donguston: Use virtualbox? Add a fake screen?
[14:54] <donguston> debug0x1, ubntu is already on the computer though
[14:54] <debug0x1> image it and port to a vm if you really want it- i guess?
[14:55] <donguston> theres no way to make x11 think thres a screen there?
[14:55] <donguston> there is no physical screen connected to it
[14:57] <ookOok> hi! my xubuntu uname (4.2.6) does not connect to the bluetooth speaker. it gives the eirror : device succuesfully added but failed to connect
[15:00] <jireh2009> hi
[15:00] <jireh2009> is anyone online?
[15:01] <yuriy_> Hello
[15:01] <HackerII> all 1822.00 of us are sleeping
[15:01] <yuriy_> i want to reinstall my kubuntu from scratch
[15:01] <yuriy_> i tried to run install from live CD, but it fails start
[15:01] <yuriy_> it shows something like job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces.
[15:01] <yuriy_> what can i do to run process?
[15:02] <yuriy_> pls help
[15:02] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, disconnect from the internet, install
[15:02] <yuriy_> yes, simply?
[15:02] <jireh2009> is there any one who can help me
[15:02] <cfhowlett> but first md5sum your .iso and your usb
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | yuriy_
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | jireh2009,
[15:03] <yuriy_> ok, thanks - i'll try to checksum
[15:03] <yuriy_> i made shasum on iso file after downloading, it was correct
[15:04] <jireh2009> i have a problem on my lxle ..... im receiving a error from ubuntu software center i cant install apps coz there is no authentication
[15:04] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, AND the usb
[15:04] <cfhowlett> lxle is not supported here
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !lxle |  jireh2009
[15:04] <jireh2009> ahh ok ... sorry.. but is XUBUNTU supported here
[15:04] <jireh2009> ?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> jireh2009, yes but you don't use xubuntu so go to lxle for support
[15:05] <k1l_> jireh2009: its about lxle to sort their mess. please install a real ubuntu or one of the official flavors if you want support in here
[15:06] <jireh2009> thankyou
[15:06] <momomo> anyone else has any issues with minimizing windows and then getting incorrect mouse clicks for windows?
[15:06] <momomo> when is ubuntu going to adress this issue!?
[15:07] <tinyhippo> momomo: nope
[15:07] <momomo> tinyhippo, i believe everyone has this problem
[15:08] <momomo> tinyhippo, try CTRL + D
[15:08] <cfhowlett> momomo, everyone?  false.
[15:08] <momomo> ( minimize all )
[15:08] <momomo> then bring up a window
[15:08] <tinyhippo> momomo: might be a unity thing, that has no affect on Gnome3
[15:08] <momomo> click on a small icon or link
[15:08] <momomo> tinyhippo, ofcourse it's a unity thing
[15:08] <donguston> also debug0x1 I need to run a VM or 2 on that server for my development stuff
[15:09] <momomo> tinyhippo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[15:09] <k1l_> momomo: can you describe the issue precisely? in one message? is there a bug already?
[15:09] <debug0x1> donguston: you got me there.
[15:09] <debug0x1> Let me know if you run into something.
[15:10] <momomo> k1l_, yes, mimimze a window using ctrl + D or ctrl + m .. then open up that window again
[15:10] <momomo> click on a small link and see how it misses
[15:10] <HackerII> momomo,  what does ctrl+alt+tab do
[15:11] <k1l_> momomo: in that bug someone tells hes using elementary. so might be a gnome3 issue?
[15:11] <momomo> k1l_, i am using unity
[15:11] <k1l_> momomo: unity runs on the gnome3 base.
[15:11] <momomo> HackerII, i am not sure, why? i don't have that binding unfortunately
[15:11] <momomo> k1l_, do you have that problem ?
[15:11] <HackerII> ok, its a compiz window selector
[15:12] <momomo> tinyhippo, seemed to suggests he didnt have this problem
[15:12] <momomo> HackerII, its the same
[15:12] <HackerII> kk
[15:12] <momomo> HackerII, actually, it fixes the problem .. but I already do that by maximizing the window when it occurs
[15:13] <HackerII> thought so
[15:13] <momomo> HackerII, the problem is athat I am not always swithing from a minimized window to show using compiz...
[15:13] <HackerII> its a compiz big i think
[15:13] <HackerII> bug
[15:13] <momomo> but i have a keybinding for bringing certain windows up if minizmed ( in fact, the stack switcher won't show these )
[15:14] <k1l_> momomo: are you sure about ctrl+d and not super+d?
[15:14] <momomo> k1l_, yes, super + d
[15:14] <momomo> or super + m ... i have different keyboard seetyp
[15:14] <momomo> get confused
[15:15] <momomo> this problem has existed for a good two years
[15:15] <momomo> it's about time
[15:15] <k1l_> neither super+d nor super+m work on 15.10 for me :)
[15:16] <k1l_> super+m is the music-scope
[15:16] <momomo> k1l_, you can click on mimize on the window
[15:16] <ioria> for me works (Unity 14.04) ctrl+Super+D
[15:16] <momomo> but it has to be maximied
[15:16] <yuriy_> cfhowlett - "sha256sum /dev/sr0" shows than showed here http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[15:17] <wesley_> anybody on Ubuntu Mate?
[15:17] <momomo> HackerII, i don't thin kit's a compiz bug, since compiz involvement fixes the problem
[15:17] <yuriy_> sorry, i mean different to
[15:17] <momomo> it's when unity or other program does it by itself... without compiz
[15:17] <k1l_> momomo: no bug for me on 15.10
[15:17] <yuriy_> so my live cd has another hash
[15:18] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, then it's no good.
[15:18] <momomo> k1l_, maximize a window, then click on minimize .. then click on icon .. then try to hover an icon on the browser .. or some other small icon
[15:18] <yuriy_> but before i record, iso file shown it as there
[15:18] <momomo> k1l_, no problem still?
[15:18] <k1l_> momomo: no, works for me on 15.10
[15:18] <dami0> hi, where would i go to check ssh logins into my computer? auth.log doesn't have these it seems
[15:19] <yuriy_> so that's pb related to  dvd-r?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, could be.  why you not use USB?
[15:19] <k1l_> momomo: tested with chromium and thunderbird. 15.10. but dual monitor setup on intel video
[15:20] <yuriy_> old habit to install OSs from CD
[15:20] <k1l_> momomo: but i think i had that issue in the past around ubuntu on14.10 or such. but now i am thinking about i dont had that since some time. so might be fixed in 15.10
[15:20] <momomo> k1l_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[15:21] <momomo> k1l_, how do you best upgrade to 15 without ubuntu screwing up everything ?
[15:21] <k1l_> momomo: i had no upgraade issue in years on ubuntu. but i tend to not use tons of PPAs for video drivers or other stuff.
[15:22] <GladiaTeur> hello guys where i can get proftpd help
[15:23] <momomo> i got logged out, did i miss anyehting ?
 momomo: i had no upgraade issue in years on ubuntu. but i tend to not use tons of PPAs for video drivers or other stuff.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> k1 xedger ppas are ok for the current kernel, the next kernel update sometimes borks the system
[15:24] <momomo> k1l_, can you try to turn on the static application switcher, maybe thast's what causing it
[15:24] <truexfan81> ubuntu has nice reliability give or take a few not so stable 3rd party PPA's
[15:25] <skinux> Do Unity apps work on other distributions of Linux or Ubuntu only?
[15:38] <truexfan81> skinux: if you install unity on that distro of course
[15:39] <truexfan81> i'm looking forward to the next batch of updates for the lts, i just setup my sources.list to use the apt mirrors
[15:40] <skinux> truefanx: And how many install Unity without using Ubuntu? I've read a lot of back and forth as to whether Unity is good. I personally like it.
[15:41] <skinux> Here's a dumb question....can Unity app support be installed on Windows?
[15:41] <truexfan81> skinux: perhaps we should go to -offtopic? discussing other distros is a bit offtopic for this channel
[15:41] <krcevina> Hi. When writing or reading from/to disk via samba, i.e. from another PC, is DMA used during the writing/reading operation?
[15:41] <skinux> Ahh.
[15:41] <skinux> I'll talk about it in #linux
[15:41] <k1l_> skinux: the issue is, that you need to patch a lot of gnome files for using unity. and on non-ubuntu systems its hard to maintain that patches because its a lot of work. so most other distributions dont ship unity.
[15:42] <skinux> What is so different about Unity apps versus non-Unity apps?
[15:42] <k1l_> apps?
[15:42] <skinux> I mean Unity IS Gnome but with no top-panel menus and having the left-side panel
[15:43] <cfhowlett> unity is absolutely not gnome
[15:43] <skinux> Well, when I read about Unity it said Unity was built on top of Gnome
[15:43] <k1l_> skinux: unity is another gnome-shell. but instead of the gnome-shell (which most people call gnome3) its not using mutter but compiz. and got another arangement of panel and indicators.
[15:43] <truexfan81> kinda funny tho, inxi -Sx on unity says its using GTK2 lol
[15:44] <skinux> Oh...Gnome-Shell
[15:44] <skinux> Right..Gnome-Shell isn't Gnome desktop
[15:44] <k1l_> skinux: sure it is
[15:44] <zaggynl> Why is the username on the ubuntu livecd "it" ?
[15:44] <skinux> I have another question. I dual-booted Ubuntu with Windows a couple months ago. Unfortunately, it didn't install GRUB right so there is no boot option for it.
[15:45] <skinux> I booted live USB, mounted Ubuntu's partition and installed GRUB, but that didn't fix it.
[15:45] <truexfan81_> System:    Host ubuntu Kernel 3.19.0-33-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc 4.8.2)
[15:45] <truexfan81_>            Desktop Gnome  (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[15:45] <truexfan81_> see ^^^ totally does not detect that i'm using unity
[15:45] <k1l_> we have the gnome3 basis. on that there run shells. one shell is "gnome-shell" which most people call gnome3. then there is the unity shell. and now we have even cinnamon as a shell on the gnome3 basis.
[15:46] <skinux> Trusty is old, is it not?
[15:46] <truexfan81_> trusty is the current lts
[15:46] <k1l_> trusty is the 14.04 lts. still 3 years in support
[15:47] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[15:47] <skinux> I believe I had installed 15.xx
[15:48] <roddersg> join #clementine
[15:49] <wmorri> skinux, you can use the lsb_release -a to find out
[15:49] <skinux> To find out what?
[15:49] <wmorri> sorry i just read that wong.
[15:49] <wmorri> wrong
[15:49] <skinux> Too bad IRC clients don't detect misspellings eh?
[15:49] <wmorri> yes
[15:50] <skinux> You would think by now they would be including that in IRC clients.
[15:50] <truexfan81> hexchat has spell check if you install the deps
[15:50] <skinux> I don't know how to install any HexChat dep in Windows
[15:50] <skinux> You mean an extension?
[15:50] <truexfan81> do a custom install, then scroll down the list, its in the installer somewhere
[15:51] <skinux> Oh.
[15:51] <skinux> Would I have to first uninstall HexChat or can it over-write my current installation?
[15:52] <skinux> Wait..why am I asking that in here.
[15:52] <skinux> I just checked that I have the latest HexChat version installed
[15:52] <truexfan81> yeah the ops will fuss if we keep going
[15:53] <EriC^^> skinux: are you having boot issues?
[15:53] <skinux> With Ubuntu, yes.
[15:53] <skinux> When it installed, it didn't add a boot entry to Windows boot menu, but didn't put GRUB into place either, so I can't boot it.
[15:54] <truexfan81> ooh i know easy fix for that
[15:54] <skinux> I tried installing GRUB using Live USB, but it didn't fix it.
[15:54] <truexfan81> grab the ubuntu boot repair iso
[15:54] <skinux> I also tried using EasyBCD for Windows, but to no avail
[15:54] <truexfan81> boot to it, and let it install grub for you
[15:55] <skinux> I might have already tried that
[15:55] <EriC^^> skinux: boot a live usb
[15:55] <truexfan81> try it again, it should work eventually
[15:55] <EriC^^> and come back here
[15:55] <truexfan81> ubuntu boot repair never failed me
[15:55] <user__> hi guys, how to search for a package through apt-get? I did apt-get cache cowsay, but I cant find something related
[15:56] <jireh2009_> i fix my own by editing the grub.cfg
[15:56] <skinux> Hmm. Well, I've only got one USB to use for that which already has Ubuntu install on it.
[15:56] <EriC^^> user__: apt-cache search something
[15:56] <skinux> So I'll have to install repair iso using Live and try it that way.
[15:56] <EriC^^> skinux: can you boot that usb?
[15:56] <user__> EriC^^: of course, thank you
[15:56] <jireh2009_> is ubuntu can run from a flashdrive ?
[15:56] <skinux> Actually...wait...I did that already. But I guess I can try it again.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> jireh2009_, yes
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !usb | jireh2009_
[15:56] <skinux> I installed Ubuntu from a Live boot on USB
[15:57] <user__> jireh2009_: yes yes, ubuntu can run from flash drive
[15:57] <truexfan81> for some reason i never can remember apt-cache search i always end up just installing aptitude and using aptitude search then let apt-get install it lol
[15:58] <jireh2009_> hmm.. now my study will not be bother..
[15:59] <KULD> install ubuntu from usb is very easy
[15:59] <wmorri> truexfan81, you can always look at the man page.
[15:59] <KULD> i did it, too on my ASUS Eee PC
[16:00] <ktchk> ubuntu 10.04 I had used the Remastersys to reinstall the whole system and applications.
[16:00] <truexfan81> wmorri: no worries, installing aptitude is simple and fast enough lol
[16:01] <rubens_> Boa tarde! como faço para instalar o Mysql no Ubuntu
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !br | rubens_
[16:04] <rubens_> no terminal
[16:06] <KULD> does somebody know a programme with which I can program g code? For CNC
[16:06] <ktchk> heekscnc
[16:08] <KULD> thank you...
[16:18] <kilde> can anyone help me get my scanner working please? Brother MFC-6490cw Ubuntu 14.04
[16:22] <wmorri> kilde, start with this and see if it help http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc6490cw_all
[16:23] <truexfan81> wow nice they provide a deb package
[16:24] <boozler> Anyone here have much experience with the kangaroo mini pc or Intel Atom processors? How well could they run a virtual machine?
[16:25] <truexfan81> intel atom doesn't have virtualization so any vm would be quite slow
[16:25] <inthl> I have some very annoying issue on a laptop of a friend, trying to install ubuntu 15.10. now all 2 CPUs (cores) have over 2GHz, but /proc/cpuinfo is constantly showing 122.xyz Mhz
[16:25] <inthl> no matter what I do, the system operates slowly and these 122 are not getting higher under any circumstances, 123 tops
[16:26] <inthl> I read something about intel ppc stuff there, but I could not fix that according to several tutorials, they had no effect there. Any ideas perhaps?
[16:27] <boozler> truexfan81, understood. Thank you
[16:27] <nicomachus> inthl: what does cpufreq-info show?
[16:28] <inthl> there is no such binary
[16:28] <inthl> I am on the live distro
[16:28] <kilde> wmorri: I have it downloaded, followed the instructions, nothing:( I have xsane and simple scan
[16:29] <inthl> there is no binary named cpu* ...available are e.g. cp, cpan, cpgr, cpio...but nothing with cpu*
[16:29] <inthl> I am in a terminal, as root
[16:29] <nicomachus> !info cpufreq-info
[16:29] <syntroPi> !info cpufrequtils
[16:31] <nitish> How can I update vlc to the latest version? current version installed in my ubuntu is 2.1.4. I want to update to 2.2.1
[16:31] <nicomachus> thre it is. thanks syntroPi. inthl: install cpufrequtils and then check cpufreq-info.
[16:31] <nicomachus> then if the frequency is off you can set it with cpufreq-set
[16:32] <inthl> well how to install it. the iso does not seem to provide it. and setting up network with such a low cpuspeed will definitely take a while
[16:32] <nicomachus> inthl: should be able to do "apt-get install cpufrequtils"
[16:32] <inthl> however, honestly, that sounds like some really nasty bug and/or issue - there must be some user-friendly solution for this?
[16:32] <nicomachus> but you may have to enable the component universe in your software sources.
[16:32] <inthl> that apt-command says ...cpufrequitls has no installation candidate
[16:33] <inthl> so I'd need to add sources.
[16:33] <nicomachus> yes, enable the component universe in your software sources
[16:33] <inthl> how do I disable compiz via keyboard shortcuts? I believe that this would at least help me setting that up
[16:34] <inthl> obviously compiz consumes lots of cpu when active, every GUI-stuff works like 0.5FPS
[16:34] <wmorri> kilde, have a look at this thread from the ubuntu forums. It seems to have a solution. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988296&s=05cf421a75f971f34143dbdc2dd65217&p=11973198#post11973198
[16:35] <nitish> how to update vlc?
[16:35] <syntroPi> !info vlc | nitish
[16:36] <syntroPi> nitish, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:36] <nitish> syntroPi: 14.04 lts
[16:36] <syntroPi> hmm
[16:36] <truexfan81> to get latest you would likely have to add a PPA or compile from source
[16:37] <nitish> syntroPi: i have vlc 2.1.4 installed. I need to install 2.2.1
[16:37] <nicomachus> nitish: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/2.2.1.html
[16:37] <truexfan81> i may try to compile vlc from source on 14.04 just cause i've not compiled it in forever lol
[16:38] <ikonia> not really the best reason
[16:38] <truexfan81> lol
[16:38] <truexfan81> i don't actually use vlc, so i don't really have a better reason
[16:38] <wmorri> nitish, add the ppa:mc3man/trusty-media and then update and install vlc
[16:39] <syntroPi> but always be aware you trust the ppa owner with root rights on your box...
[16:39] <ikonia> then don't do it
[16:39] <chinesesausage> hi syntroPi
[16:39] <nitish> nicomachus: wmorri: how to add ppa for vlc?
[16:39] <truexfan81> ikonia: what about being bored and having a vm to play with? is that a better reason? :P
[16:40] <wmorri> nitish, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mc3man/trusty-media
[16:41] <inthl> okay, assuming I do fix this some way, how would I make it permanently, e.g. after a reboot? there must be some solution for dummies? all the stuff required to solve this is really on a g33k-level, one can not seriously expect for the average user to be able to fix that?
[16:41] <wmorri> nitish, everything is found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/105587/how-to-update-vlc-to-the-latest-version
[16:41] <syntroPi> nitish, you also could try to download the sources from wiley, install build dependecies and compile vlc yourself...
[16:41] <chinesesausage> speaking of ppa, how do you ppa-purge if you do not have a ppa? I only have the lines included in lines " /etc/apt/sources.list" file
[16:42] <EriC^^> chinesesausage: what are the lines?
[16:42] <nitish> wmorrisyntroPi: i think its too complicated to compile.
[16:42] <EriC^^> chinesesausage: man ppa-purge has info about that
[16:42] <syntroPi> nitish, then go with the most trustworthy ppa you could find for it
[16:42] <chinesesausage> I want to ppa-purge Trinity Desktop Environment from my OS
[16:43] <chinesesausage> I only have the lines included in sources.list file
[16:43] <chinesesausage> i.e. deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu trusty main
[16:43] <nicomachus> inthl: if the man pages on those packages are above your tech level, you probably shouldn't be messing with CPU frequencies.
[16:44] <chinesesausage> I want to purge everything that was installed with de TDE
[16:44] <Sargun> 6
[16:45] <nitish> wmorri: ppa added for vlc. what next?
[16:46] <truexfan81> nitish: sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:47] <inthl> nicomachus, they are not above MY but above the laptop's owner. not messing with this would mean leave it at 122Mhz.
[16:47]  * truexfan81 goes to create a new 14.04 vm for a few experiments
[16:47] <inthl> so in fact my smartphone would run this faster than the 950 pentium
[16:48] <wmorri> chinesesausage, you can just run sudo ppa_purge ppa_name.
[16:48] <chinesesausage> thanks wmorri, I am going to try that :)
[16:49] <wmorri> chinesesausage, you will need to use sudo apt-get purge package_name to uninstall the package.
[16:49] <chinesesausage> ok
[16:49] <nitish> truexfan81: updated. now how to update vlc?
[16:50] <inthl> I've got cpufrequ
[16:50] <truexfan81> nitish: sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:50] <inthl> -info says: CPU frequency is 123Mhz (assertet by call to hardware)
[16:50] <truexfan81> nitish: that will update all your vlc related stuff to the ppa version
[16:50] <inthl> hardware limits: 800 - 2100 Mhz
[16:50] <syntroPi> inthl, what does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor" say on your system?
[16:51] <hampirpunah> Sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:51] <hampirpunah> Sudo apt-get update
[16:51] <nitish> truexfan81: I am wondering that how much data will be needed to upgrade
[16:51] <truexfan81> nitish: it will tell you when it asks you to confirm that you want to do it
[16:52] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade was alerting for 380 mb. My net speed is not enough for that.
[16:52] <inthl> performance, but that was after I set it manually to performance via cat .. >, but before that it was powersafe
[16:52] <oaulakh> anyone know what problem is with pulse audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368405/
[16:52] <truexfan81> nitish: dist-upgrade is not needed for vlc
[16:53] <chinesesausage> wmorri, for example: "sudo ppa-purge kubuntu-default-settings-trinity" ?
[16:53] <oaulakh> and my microphone is not working either
[16:53] <wmorri> chinesesausage, if that is the name of the ppa then yes
[16:54] <nitish> truexfan81: ok i will run sudo apt-get upgrade. but how to update vlc after it?
[16:54] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager.  for some of the packages I'm getting an error.  Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[16:54] <syntroPi> inthl, so the governor is performance and the cpu frequency is still 122 MHz?
[16:54] <chinesesausage> no, I do not have have a ppa for that. I installed it by adding the sources
[16:54] <truexfan81> nitish: you won't have to, the apt-get upgrade is going to update your vlc for you
[16:54] <chinesesausage> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity
[16:54] <inthl> yes
[16:55] <inthl> I wonder about that, since cpufreq-info says that the range is 800-2100 anyways, but it is 122-123mhz all the time and works somewhat slow all the time
[16:55] <wmorri> chinesesausage, if you just added the sources you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run a purge for the program.
[16:56] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get upgrade is showing Need to get 416 MB of archives. unable to provide such data :(
[16:56] <oaulakh> anyone know what problem is with pulse audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368405/
[16:56] <syntroPi> inthl, indeed weird behaviour. maybe a thorough investigation of the output of dmesg could hint where the problem is?
[16:56] <truexfan81> nitish: ok try sudo apt-get install vlc, see what it says
[16:56] <iceroot> inthl: sounds like you have a laptop which is not connected to the power line, then the cpu is putting on the energy safe mode
[16:57] <chinesesausage> ok. Will that remove all of the software TDE added? i.e. Kaffeine, LibreOffice, etc. ?
[16:57] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get install vlc is asking for 10 mb. Will it be update after it.
[16:57] <inthl> it is connected by wire. but dmesg states: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled
[16:57] <inthl> I wonder how overheating could occur at 122mhz.
[16:57] <truexfan81> nitish: it should yeah
[16:58] <syntroPi> inthl, try cleaning it carefully with a vacuum cleaner to suck out any dust of it
[16:58] <nitish> ok.
[16:58] <inthl> and yes, the CPU appears to be hot, the fan is working
[16:58] <HackerII> use a can of air, not a vacuum, el oh el
[16:59] <BluesKaj> I use both
[16:59] <nitish> can anyone tell me that how can I configure cyberoam in ubuntu?
[17:00] <inthl> this is way too weird. a how cpu, at 122mhz, a working fan, still remains hot, still at 122mhz
[17:00] <HackerII> inthl,  check htop to see whats eating it up
[17:00] <inthl> nothing?
[17:00] <HackerII> graphics are ok ?
[17:00] <inthl> top itself consumes 40% of cpu, since obviously the frequency is just 122mhz
[17:01] <inthl> yes, everything else is completely fine
[17:01] <oaulakh> i duno why my ubuntu settings not showing somehow :(
[17:01] <HackerII> huh, maybe at 122mhz the fan isnt running at high speed
[17:01] <chinesesausage> ok wmorri, I did a "sudo apt-get kubuntu-default-settings-trinity* kubuntu-desktop-trinity*" and it will remove those two apps. For the rest apparently a "sudo apt-get autoremove" will do
[17:02] <syntroPi> inthl, you could watch cpu temp with lm-sensors http://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature
[17:02] <cgs_bob> hello all.  I'm trying to upgrade to 15.04, but the "Distribution Upgrade" program is no longer responding.  What can I do now?
[17:02] <inthl> well, whatever. I have an unusable machine here, and atm it is the live system, the installation takes 1 hour here just to break at the end because of http://askubuntu.com/questions/499845/ubiquity-appears-to-hang-installing-dual-boot-osx - a similar error, but it is about ms windows. there is as usual a software requirement which forces that guy to have windows installed.
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob  what version are you in, now... cat /etc/issue
[17:03] <syntroPi> inthl, even if the fan works if it wouldnt provide airflow it cant cool the cpu hence my suggestion to remove dust
[17:03] <inthl> syntroPi, I'd have to install lm-sensors as well, no binary here. that could take a while again
[17:03] <inthl> there is air flow, I can feel heat blowing out pretty much good
[17:03] <wildc4rd> is there any reason my resolution might not work properly? running a 1920 x 1080 monitor, but if I change to that resolution in settings its 'off the edge of the screen', at 1680 x 1050 it seems to work OK
[17:03] <wmorri> chinesesausage, okay
[17:04] <oaulakh> i duno why my ubuntu settings not showing somehow :(
[17:05] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: this is strange.  it says "Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l"
[17:06] <wmorri> oaulakh, are you talking about your settings panel?
[17:06] <oaulakh> yes
[17:06] <nitish> I am using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. Is there any latest version than this of 14.04 lts?
[17:07] <truexfan81> nitish: if you were to be able to do apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade after a reboot you would be running 14.04.3
[17:07] <wmorri> oaulakh, are you using unity, gnome-shell, kde?
[17:07] <zlude> Hello! I'm trying to use gsmsendsms over ubuntu 14.04, however I can't find which /dev/??? is mine usb smartphone running on. How can I figure out?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob  then do-release-upgrade should upgrade to 15.10... but it's very slow
[17:07] <oaulakh> when i remove pulseaudio and alsa-base to get working my microphone after i dunno what happen it make uninstall many other packages too, so now i cant install pulseaudio and can't even open my ubuntu settings
[17:07] <oaulakh> unity
[17:08] <nitish> truexfan81: whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:08] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager.  for some of the packages I'm getting an error.  Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[17:08] <truexfan81> nitish: apt-get dist-upgrade installs the newer linux kernels, and other packages that apt-get upgrade holds back
[17:09] <L3ows> Hello Guys
[17:09] <nitish> truefan81: what should be done first? upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[17:09] <breadmonster> Hey. I've got a Lubuntu ISO. How do I burn it to a flash drive?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster  use disk-creator or unetbootin
[17:10] <breadmonster> I'm on Fedora 23, so the Universal USB installer won't work.
[17:10] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: so should I kill the "Distribution Upgrade" program and try your method?  like I said this program seems to be hosed.  I just see a blank window
[17:10] <truexfan81> nitish: i tend to do upgrade first then dist-upgrade
[17:10] <darkhawk> Hey Guys, running 15.10-x64 on a lenovo thinkpad t450s with intel vga. 2 external monitors (Eizo 23" fullhd), conected by displayport and dvi, booting up the system and everything is fine...dual monitor is running.....after pressing the windowskey+L for locking screen (or clicking in the right corner on lock screen) both screens went black....after some time...a minute or 30 seconds i come back and log-in again only one external monitor is coming
[17:10] <L3ows> apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:10] <nitish> truefan81: will there would be any bad effect to my currently instlled program?
[17:10] <breadmonster> MonkeyDust: I'm on Fedora.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster  then ask in the fedora channel
[17:10] <truexfan81> nitish: they would just be updated to a newer version
[17:10] <rickb> hello. I have an alienware laptop and since the latest batch up kernel updates it kernel panics on boot, even when I attempt a complete reinstall, the damn thing kernel panics before a full loadup, I've formatted the usb drive, used dd, unetbootin and liveusb-creator... centos 7 is working for me for now but any ideas?
[17:10] <breadmonster> MonkeyDust: Oh okay, cool, I thought Ubuntu had some binary.
[17:10]  * darkhawk is running 4.2.0-19-generic
[17:11] <k1l_> breadmonster: dd works
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster  that binary would be useless in fedora
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> ah, dd, yes
[17:11] <L3ows> Is possible run IE8 in ubuntu linux?
[17:11] <nitish> truexfan81: I don't want to go to 15.04 or 15.10. will it changed to these?
[17:11] <truexfan81> L3ows: possibly in wine, but why would you want to?
[17:12] <truexfan81> nitish: no there is a seperate command to do release upgrades like that
[17:12] <k1l_> breadmonster: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX    where X is the usb, make sure not to use dev/sdx1 or dev/sdx2 or such
[17:12] <L3ows> truexfan81, humm.... i look playonlinux by ubuntu
[17:12] <L3ows> apt-get install playonlinux
[17:12] <breadmonster> k1l_: Okay, fantastic.
[17:12] <L3ows> it is framework from wine to install IE8
[17:13] <truexfan81> L3ows: playonlinux is a gui for wine but yeah maybe you can install it that way, i've never tried
[17:13] <chinesesausage> thank you wmorri
[17:13] <wmorri> chinesesausage, your welcome :)
[17:13] <L3ows> truexfan81, ok.. i going to testing.. it...
[17:13] <nitish> few years back when I used 10.04 there was screen saver but unable to find it in 14.04. Is there any external application for screen saver?
[17:14] <chinesesausage> thanks to people like you, Linux will remain the best
[17:14] <chinesesausage> :)
[17:14] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: so should I kill the "Distribution Upgrade" program and try your method?  like I said this program seems to be hosed.  I just see a blank window
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob  you mean a graphical upgrade?
[17:15] <kostkon> !screensaver
[17:15] <kostkon> nope
[17:15] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: at the time that it became "hosed" was it still downloading the upgrades or had it started installing?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob  i guess you better backup and fresh install
[17:16] <zlude> Hello! I'm trying to use gsmsendsms over ubuntu 14.04, however I can't find which /dev/??? is mine usb smartphone running on. How can I figure out?
[17:16] <L3ows> truexfan81, yea... i installed... IE8 by playonlinux is successfull running
[17:16] <nitish> kostkon: I think there should be any application for that.
[17:16] <L3ows> ;)
[17:16] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: I did a graphical upgrade.  it downloaded all the packages.  it looked like it started to install.  then it stopped responding
[17:17] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: yeah what MonkeyDust said start backing up your data
[17:17] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager.  for some of the packages I'm getting an error.  Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[17:18] <nitish> BottomNotch: Download latest android studio.
[17:18] <cgs_bob> truexfan81: I was afraid of that.  will my computer come back up if I put it in suspend mode.  I need to get my computer to work
[17:18] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: probably, just make sure it doesn't shut down
[17:19] <BottomNotch> nitish: I thought that might help so I did that already and still have the same issue
[17:19] <cgs_bob> truexfan81: I'll have to do that. *fingerscrossed*
[17:22] <nitish> what is Lubuntu and Kubuntu?
[17:22] <mbenson> if I have plenty of disk, CPU and RAM available, what might account for my Ubuntu system always being very unresponsive?
[17:23] <Pici> !flavors | nitish
[17:23] <zlude> fuck you
[17:24] <nitish> zlude: ask your question?
[17:24] <truexfan81> wow language
[17:24] <L3ows> Alguém do Brasil aqui?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> !br
[17:24] <agent_white> !ask | zlude
[17:24] <agent_white> Ah. Oh well... nevermind.
[17:24] <nitish> I had downloaded artha but unable to open it now. how to fix it?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> !find artha
[17:26] <tricknology> hey all.  I have two raspberry pi’s both have the same binaries loaded.  The binary writes out to FD /dev/ttyACM0 then reads again.  On [A] it writes and reads back fine.  On [b] it writes fine but it does not read at all.  Permissions are the same.  Both are the same hardware and kernel.. I’m so confused.
[17:26] <nitish> MonkeyDust !find artha return this: bash: !find: event not found
[17:26] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager.  for some of the packages I'm getting an error.  Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known.  I have the latest version of android studio and tried opening the sdk mananger with sudo andI don't a have a firewall running.
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> nitish  on the contrary, it returns  ubottu> Found: artha, libosgearthannotation3
[17:27] <tricknology> Well, the site is up, BottomNotch
[17:27] <tricknology> maybe you’re not resolving the host name
[17:27] <L3ows> How to do upgrade from ubuntu version 14.04.3 LTS to version 15.10 ?
[17:27] <tricknology> how to clear that up idk.. something something clearing DNS cache
[17:27] <nitish> MonkeyDust: so what to do next to run artha?
[17:27] <vinrock> trying to run tic and im getting a 'No such file or directory" error.  Is there something about Ubuntu im not aware of thats causing this?
[17:28] <vinrock> $HOME/.terminfo exists
[17:28] <vinrock> termcap is in $HOME
[17:28] <L3ows> truexfan81, do you know?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> nitish  not sure, i was checking whether it was something in the repos... i had never heard of it
[17:28] <BottomNotch> tricknology: what's weird is that it's only for some on the packages.
[17:28] <OerHeks> "androidstudio with sudo" ... never knew sudo was needed
[17:28] <truexfan81> L3ows: a ton of time and effort
[17:29] <nitish> when I type artha and press enter then cursor goes to next line and nothing happen.
[17:29] <truexfan81> L3ows: best bet is to grab the 15.10 iso and start fresh
[17:29] <wmorri> L3ows, backup all your important data first.
[17:29] <OerHeks> 14.04 > 14.10 (eol) > 15.04 > 15.10 ... save yourself time, install fresh
[17:29] <L3ows> ok
[17:30] <BottomNotch> some of the packages.
[17:30] <BottomNotch> I stink at proofreedeng :/
[17:30] <nitish> So finally my vlc has been upgraded to 2.2.1. thank you guys.
[17:30] <tricknology> which packages, I can try to update on the mac and see if it’s system-wide at least.. I have eclipse though
[17:30] <L3ows> is possible boot iso 15.10 on ubuntu 14.04 running?
[17:30] <tricknology> should be same host though
[17:30] <nitish> L3ows: yes you can.
[17:30] <L3ows> truexfan81, humm... good...
[17:31] <nitish> L3ows: with startup disk creator.
[17:31] <L3ows> truexfan81, do you have any tutorial to it? or url ?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> nitish  if you don't know what it is or does, why are you using it?
[17:31] <truexfan81> L3ows: sorry no
[17:31] <L3ows> startup disk creator?
[17:31] <nitish> MonkeyDust: what?
[17:31] <OerHeks> L3ows, no, use dvd, usb, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:31] <truexfan81> L3ows: i had started to do it myself on a vm but got tired of waiting for it lol
[17:32] <BottomNotch> tricknology: if I'm not resolving the hostname how can I confirm that it's the issue and how can I fix it?
[17:32] <L3ows> truexfan81, lol
[17:32] <tricknology> can you ping it?
[17:32] <tricknology> and im kinda rusty, i’m acutally here for help
[17:32] <tricknology> but something about clearing dns cache
[17:33] <tricknology> if you cant ping it then check this out BottomNotch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/558141/ubuntu-12-04-cant-resolve-hostname
[17:35] <L3ows> truexfan81, what do you think about ubuntu 15.10 version ?
[17:36] <L3ows> is better that ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:36] <pbx> L3ows, not if you want long term support
[17:37] <L3ows> hmm
[17:37] <BottomNotch> tricknology: if you answered my last question could you answer again?  I got dissconected.
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> can you ping it?
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> and im kinda rusty, i’m acutally here for help <tricknology> but something about clearing dns cache
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> if you cant ping it then check this out BottomNotch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/558141/ubuntu-12-04-cant-resolve-hostname
[17:39] <Timvde> Hi. When running Qt applications, I get this error: "X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)". Using Ubuntu 14.04. What can I do about it? DuckDuckGo didn't really find anything.
[17:39] <L3ows> tricknology, test your dns settings with command: nslookup www.google.com
[17:39] <tricknology> hehe anarkhos you’re a hero
[17:39] <L3ows> BottomNotch, oh sorry, verify your dns settings is correct in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:40] <L3ows> BottomNotch, install the dnsmasq on apt-get install dnsmasq-base
[17:40] <tricknology> his symptom is in Android SDK manager in AS I presume.. “Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known."
[17:40] <tricknology> L3ows: ^
[17:41] <BottomNotch> anarkhos:  sorry for m newbiness, how do I do that?
[17:41] <BottomNotch> nevermind, I figured it out :p
[17:41] <BottomNotch> yes I can
[17:42] <OerHeks> again: "androidstudio with sudo" ... never knew sudo was needed
[17:42] <L3ows> 28 minutes to down my iso 15.10 ubuntu version
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> L3ows  in which country are you
[17:42] <BottomNotch> ugh, dissconnected AGAIN.
[17:42] <L3ows> MonkeyDust, Brazil
[17:43] <BottomNotch> anarkos: I can ping dl.google.com
[17:45] <BottomNotch> anarkhos: I can ping dl.google.com
[17:45] <breadmonster> Hey.
[17:48] <breadmonster> So my friend's running Lubuntu 15.10 on a live CD.
[17:48] <anarkhos> Ok.
[17:49] <breadmonster> *wifi card
[17:49] <breadmonster> Can someone help me figure out how?
[17:49] <breadmonster> And it can't detect his wifi.
[17:49] <L3ows> breadmonster, wifi on
[17:49] <OneM_Industries> How do I find out what exactly was contained in today's updates? They appear to have broken one of my programs.
[17:50] <L3ows> breadmonster, utilizy network manager
[17:50] <L3ows> breadmonster, network-manager
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster  install first, then struggle with wifi... all struggle is for nothing, when you stop the live session
[17:50] <OneM_Industries> It was working before the update, and after the update, it is unable to load.
[17:50] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: see the log in /var/log/apt
[17:50] <nicomachus> L3ows: it's nm-connection-editor, not network-manager
[17:51] <breadmonster> L3ows: it's not instaled
[17:51] <OneM_Industries> Dangit, video card updates.
[17:52] <OneM_Industries> How do I undo all of this: http://pastebin.com/HbQQg7yr
[17:55] <nicomachus> breadmonster: because he got the command wrong. it's nm-connection-editor
[17:55] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: dont use the -updates package?
[17:55] <tricknology> BottomNotch: try this, as OerHeks suggested
[17:55] <wmorri> OneM_Industries, do you know which part of the update broke your program?
[17:55] <tricknology> androidstudio with sudo
[17:56] <juniorRubyist> how do i register for this?
[17:56] <BottomNotch_> tricknology: sorry, my computer craped itself and I had to reboot
[17:56] <k1l_> !register | juniorRubyist
[17:56] <BottomNotch_> fill me in on what people have told me to do please
[17:57] <BottomNotch_> and I've already tried opening the SDK manager with sudo
[17:57] <le_pig> :|
[17:57] <juniorRubyist> what is the MOTD?
[17:57] <juniorRubyist> for today
[18:01] <OneM_Industries> wmorri-sleep: No clue.
[18:02] <OneM_Industries> All I know is that this program only works with 340.96, but I tried setting the drivers to that and it still didn't work.
[18:03] <BottomNotch_> crap, I think I got dissconected again
[18:06] <BottomNotch> has anyone given me advice since I got dissconected?
[18:09] <rory> no
[18:09] <BottomNotch> oh wait a sec, I opened android studio with sudo, and from there opened the SDK manager, and it seem to be working.  Weird that it didn't work to open the Sdk Managers directly with sudo
[18:09] <rory> BottomNotch: http://i.imgur.com/nRUCE2B.png
[18:14] <tester_> e ai
[18:15] <tester_> como vai  pessoal
[18:16] <tester_> heeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[18:16] <le_pig> !br
[18:17] <tester_> o que
[18:17] <tester_> seja clara
[18:17] <OerHeks> tester_, english only please
[18:17] <tester_> ok
[18:17] <tester_> Hi
[18:17] <tester_> lol
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <nicomachus> sto
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <nicomachus> stop
[18:18] <k1l_> tester_: enough now
[18:18] <tester_> lol
[18:19] <nicomachus> tester_: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:20] <tester_> no
[18:21] <tester_> how are you
[18:21] <nicomachus> !ot | tester_
[18:22] <tester_> sorry
[18:22] <tester_> cuties
[18:23] <tester_> bye bye
[18:38] <iarr> fucking nigger
[18:46] <rahuldev> Hi!
[18:46] <rahuldev> So silence!
[18:46] <rahuldev> Keep calm!
[18:46] <souliaq> Someone knows how to set Terminology as default Terminal?
[18:46] <souliaq> Already tried everythin on "google"
[18:47] <souliaq> update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator, doesn't list Terminology, but is installed and working
[18:49] <EriC^^> souliaq: how'd you install it?
[18:51] <souliaq> synaptic
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <inteus> stop repeating yourself
[18:53] <SlidingHorn> souliaq, you can try editing the alternative file itself (using sudo) - nano /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator  ------  From there, add two lines to the bottom:  '/usr/bin/[whateverit'scalledinthisdirectory]'  and '20' (or any number lower than what's listed so far in the file
[18:54] <planet98> sorry
[18:54] <souliaq> Thanks, I'll try it
[18:54] <SlidingHorn> you'll likely need to restart your session for it to take effect
[18:55] <souliaq> ok
[18:58] <Tangurin> Hi! :)
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> Completely off topic, but tesla I like the name....I name all my machines after famous/influential scientists...tesla is my tower :)
[18:58] <EriC^^> hi
[18:59] <Tangurin> This is not ubuntu question but I don't know where to ask! I skype with a lot of friends and play gta V with them. But there is one friend that I can't talk in skype with or play with, it is something with our connection, what may it be?
[19:00] <Pici> Tangurin: As you said, thats not really a topic for this channel. Maybe ##windows can help with that.
[19:00] <goddard> if nothing is running that should lock app installations from apt-get or ubuntu software center then how can you reset it so you are allowed to install things again?
[19:00] <tesla> SlidingHorn, hahaha I only use it for usernames but it's a cool idea indeed!
[19:00] <Tangurin> Thanks :)
[19:00] <Pici> goddard: Are you getting some error?
[19:00] <Tangurin> nothing but bad connection
[19:01] <goddard> Pici: yeah it is locked
[19:01] <Pici> !aptfix | goddard take a look
[19:03] <OerHeks> goddard, "from apt-get or ubuntu software center " both active?
[19:03] <TheWarden> Hello, I recently installed Ubutntu 14.04. What is the default password for the user 'kiosk' ?
[19:03] <daftykins> there isn't a user called that as default? did you install something to provide it?
[19:06] <TheWarden> daynaskully: well there has to be because I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu.com and installed via usb. This is the user I got by default.
[19:06] <TheWarden> it auto logins to the desktop
[19:07] <TheWarden> mmm maybe my mind is going... maybe I was prompted to enter a username mmm but if it did it would have asked for the password as well. crap.
[19:07] <akik> TheWarden: not sure what you've installed but you can change the password with "sudo passwd kiosk"
[19:08] <akik> TheWarden: from your normal user account
[19:08] <TheWarden> mmm sorry me being dumb... I got it working. unreal. so stupid of me.
[19:22] <tesla>  
[19:34] <boxmein> hey guise
[19:34] <boxmein> how do i make dual graphicsing work
[19:34] <boxmein> because it used to be alright but suddenly disappeared
[19:35] <boxmein> yet nouveau inits fine
[19:36] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know how I would set my graphics card drivers to version 346.96 instead of 352.63? 352.63 appears to have overwritten 346.96 entirely, breaking my setup.
[19:38] <OneM_Industries> Anyone? Please?
[19:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: why did you install two? that was highly unwise
[19:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sudo apt-get purge nvidia* && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install nvidia-346
[19:40] <herrkin> hi people. guys how do I set up ssh so that if I want to push a git repository to a production server I dont have to type the key everytime?
[19:40] <genii> Hm
[19:40] <genii> !info nvidia-346
[19:41] <herrkin> I know how to configure the key in github or bitbucket but I dont know how to do it in a production server
[19:41] <genii> !info nvidia-340-uvm
[19:41] <herrkin> so that if I push changes it won't ask me for the key
[19:43] <genii> OneM_Industries: Which package gave you the 346.96 version?
[19:48] <marcanuy> Hi, after upgrading to 15.10 I have the following package dependencies problem (apt-get -f install): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372447/
[19:49] <marcanuy> any help?
[19:49] <daftykins> !patience
[19:50] <chr0ma> Why the minimal installation of Ubuntu 15.* sucks bad?
[19:50] <genii> marcanuy: apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0:amd64
[19:50] <daftykins> marcanuy: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" i think it is
[19:50] <chr0ma> I can't even install grub
[19:50] <daftykins> chr0ma: mini.iso ? nothing wrong with them.
[19:50] <chr0ma> Nothing wrong?
[19:50] <SlidingHorn> marcanuy, have you seen this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924941
[19:51] <daftykins> chr0ma: are you trying to use it more as a live session to solve problems with, rather than just perform an installation from?
[19:52] <marcanuy> genii: apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0:amd64   output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372502/
[19:52] <bhagath> when i want to connect usb drive i faced this problemNot authorized to perform operation
[19:52] <chr0ma> I'm using it for a minimal installation, and after it, install openbox and other stuff
[19:52] <marcanuy> daftykins: it doesn't recongnizes the -a option
[19:53] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: THANK YOU!
[19:54] <genii> !info libssl1.0.0
[19:54] <SlidingHorn> chr0ma, I actually just did a setup like this today - I had problems with the server version, and the minimal isn't compatible with UEFI (i guess?), so what I ended up doing was installing xubuntu, ripping out any trace of xfce/xfwm, etc, and then installed xdm & openbox
[19:54] <daftykins> marcanuy: bit weird you have 32-bit libs on there at all really.
[19:54] <genii> marcanuy: It looks like you have mixed repositories
[19:55] <marcanuy> sudo dpkg --configure -a    output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372547/ (too many errors)
[19:55] <chr0ma> I resolved the problem installing grub to /dev/sd*
[19:55] <SlidingHorn> I actually have a paste of all that I had to take out.  I *CANNOT* recommend this, as I was flying off the seat of my pants doing this, but I have a working system - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370792/
[19:55] <genii> Because libcurl3 and some others there want libssl versions which are later than what's in the official repositories
[19:56] <chr0ma> But the grub at the start of the system don't show up so i have to open a tty session
[19:56] <chr0ma> (Sorry for my english)
[19:56] <marcanuy> daftykins: for example?
[19:57] <daftykins> marcanuy: it's pretty obvious, in your pastes they're the packages with :i386 after
[20:00] <marcanuy> daftykins: I have installed many things over the years..
[20:00] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: It just set it back to 352.63.
[20:01] <daftykins> marcanuy: yep, probably why your upgrade is getting awkward now. see what genii said
[20:01] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: the exact opposite of what you asked, ok
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> chr0ma, it sounds like you're getting beyond GRUB if you're able to get into a tty (at least, that's how I understand it - someone else can feel free to correct me)
[20:02] <marcanuy> daftykins, genii : yes, I am trying to remove them but I can't execute "sudo apt-get purge <package>" now, it fails because of the previous errors
[20:02] <chr0ma> Okay
[20:05] <daftykins> marcanuy: sudo dpkg -r <package>:arch
[20:07] <marcanuy> daftykins: "dependency problems - not removing"
[20:09] <parapan> Hi folks; is there any way to  X11 apps via ssh without an X server installed in Windows ?
[20:09] <EriC^^> !xforwarding
[20:09] <daftykins> marcanuy: experiment with the order of package you chose to remove
[20:10] <daftykins> parapan: nope pretty sure you need xmingw or some similar component
[20:11] <parapan> daftykins: I thinked so ...ok, then any light server (not xming or cygwin ) that will not require full install in windows ?
[20:11] <daftykins> no idea, never done it - i think you're out of luck
[20:11] <parapan> daftykins: something you can fire from an USB stick like ?
[20:12] <parapan> daftykins: then we must write one :D
[20:12] <daftykins> parapan: if you were doing that, i'd sooner be booting an ubuntu live session from said drive...
[20:12] <daftykins> err no, you're on your own there
[20:12] <parapan> daftykins: cannot boot; forbidden by stupid company rules . .
[20:14] <ioria> parapan, maybe give a look http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/doc/tutorial/T19_3a_xmingputty.htm
[20:15] <parapan> ioria: 10x brother/sister :D
[20:15] <parapan> ioria: I will give-it a try . . .
[20:15] <ioria> parapan, ok
[20:16] <petra> #bi
[20:16] <genii> parapan: For this one it doesn't use any Cygwin parts like Xming does : http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/
[20:16] <genii> parapan: Thats about the most minimal X server for Windows you're going to find
[20:16] <Yaiyan> On the ubuntu gnome installer, when I choose to install Ubuntu gnome alongside other distros
[20:16] <Yaiyan> It only shows sdd
[20:16] <Yaiyan> I wanted to install it on sdc
[20:17] <Yaiyan> How do I choose a different disk?
[20:20] <daftykins> parapan: then bear in mind that you installing or running something to connect home potentially, would likely be more of a violation than that even. Check with your employer as to what you're allowed to do, just because you can does not mean you should
[20:21] <Yaiyan> Meh, I just did the advanced installer instead :/
[20:21] <Yaiyan> This is my first time using GNOME since GNOME 2 :D
[20:21] <Yaiyan> Let's see if 3's better than I thought :)
[20:22] <daftykins> Yaiyan: support here, chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <parapan> daftykins: gee man. you're a corporate IT manager ?
[20:22] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I had been asking for support :-)
[20:23] <daftykins> parapan: no, i'm someone looking out for someone not getting their ass fired for doing something silly :)
[20:23] <parapan> daftykins: from work all ports are blocked; so I can only use the X11 forwarding when connecting with corporate laptop to public wifi or similar . .
[20:24] <parapan> daftykins: Ok, got your point, thanks for concern bro; you are correct of course but I'll tell them this was not explicitly forbidden . .
[20:25] <daftykins> alrighty, but i wouldn't even stray that far :)
[20:25] <noelia> Hello everyone
[20:27] <noelia> My wi-fi internet connection is too slow with Ubuntu 14.04, I've got 30MB/s. F.O. Why is this?
[20:28] <noelia> In other computer speed is fine
[20:28] <stupid_admin> hi
[20:28] <noelia> Other computer connected with a cable
[20:28] <daftykins> thirty megabytes per second doesn't sound like the unit you're meaning to convey?
[20:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a bit of time now at lunch if you are around
[20:29] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I presume he meant megabits per second
[20:29] <stupid_admin> I did rm -rf /etc/davfs2 by mistake; now when I do `sudo apt-get remove davfs2 && sudo apt-get install davfs2` I don't see the configuration file. How do I get back configuration files for davfs2?
[20:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nevermind, i have to go
[20:29] <daftykins> Yaiyan: let me get the truth direct :) no assumptions necessary
[20:30] <stupid_admin> anyone?
[20:30] <noelia> Any ideas?
[20:30] <daftykins> noelia: can you confirm your metric before we go any further?
[20:30] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I think it's obvious what he meant, no need to be pedantic
[20:30] <daftykins> noelia: what was this speed and what was it you were doing... a file copy over LAN, or internet based activity?
[20:31] <noelia> daftykins I was trying to download a 1MB file
[20:31] <daftykins> Yaiyan: this is called diagnosing a problem, we're communicating and checking what each other mean before we get stuck down a rabbit hole. Please don't make it any harder than it needs to be.
[20:31]  * Yaiyan shrugs
[20:32] <Yaiyan> #ubuntu-offtopic would be ideal for arguing about whether to call it MB/s or Mb/s though
[20:32] <noelia> daftykins And it takes a lot to load a web page
[20:32] <jamesstanley> Hello. I'm trying to watch 4od on Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04. I've installed hal and it's worked fine in the past, on both machines, but recently it has stopped working. Looking in the browser console I see it is trying to download some mp4 but receiving a 404 response. Does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[20:32] <stupid_admin> is there an #ubuntu-help to recover from stupid mistakes like `rm -rf /etc/davfs2` ?
[20:32] <daftykins> Yaiyan: you've got the total wrong end of the stick there, please stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
[20:32] <stupid_admin> Yaiyan: ^?
[20:32] <daftykins> noelia: what's the wireless adapter in use here?
[20:33] <noelia> daftykins How can I find out about that?
[20:33] <daftykins> noelia: if it's a PCI card, "lspci" in the terminal will give you a listing which you can spot the device in
[20:33] <ioria> stupid_admin, have you tried with purge ?
[20:33] <OerHeks> noelia, 30MB/s x 8 = 240 mbit .. sounds pretty oke for a 300 mbit wifi adapter
[20:33] <daftykins> noelia: otherwise, "lshw -C network | nc termbin.com 9999" would be good
[20:33] <stupid_admin> ioria: nope, I just tried `sudo apt-get remove davfs2 && sudo apt-get install davfs2`; how do I `purge`?
[20:34] <noelia> daftykins It's a laptop
[20:34] <ioria> stupid_admin, replace remove with purge
[20:34] <daftykins> noelia: yes, devices are still connected via PCI, no matter the shape of the system (or sometimes USB for wifi, but rarely)
[20:35] <noelia> daftykins Use netcat.
[20:35] <noelia> daftykins That's the output.
[20:35] <daftykins> noelia: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[20:36] <noelia> daftykins Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:37] <daftykins> noelia: strange, sounds like your release is out of date - do you get anything to install from "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" ?
[20:38] <noelia> daftykins My wi-fi card isn't compatible with Ubuntu 14.04 perhaps?
[20:39] <daftykins> noelia: 14.04.3 is the current version; so your output above suggests your installation is not up to date; so it'd be handy if you'd run the above commands :)
[20:39] <OerHeks> noelia, it works fine, 30MB/s x 8 = 240 mbit .. sounds pretty oke for a 300 mbit wifi adapter
[20:39] <daftykins> OerHeks: i think the unit was a mistake
[20:39] <daftykins> but i am yet to get a clear answer on that
[20:39] <stupid_admin> ioria: Thanks! It worked. May I ask you another issue with davfs2? I did `sudo dpkg-reconfigure davfs2` to enable user mounts; I also did `sudo usermod -a -G davfs2 stupid_admin`; but when I try `mount ~/BoxSync` it says `user stupid_admin must be member of group davfs2`
[20:40] <stupid_admin> ioria: I can `sudo !!` and mount ~/BoxSync
[20:41] <nicomachus> is there a default timeout time on an ssh session?
[20:41] <ioria> stupid_admin, what's the output of groups ?
[20:42] <genii> nicomachus: Nope.
[20:42] <nicomachus> genii: hmm... I walked away from 2 hours, came back and my remote host had closed the connection.
[20:42] <nicomachus> because of idle time
[20:43] <noelia> daftykins I did what you told me and "sudo apt update" is taking too long.
[20:43] <daftykins> noelia: ok, in the meantime you can run "lspci" and manually copy the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com to share here
[20:43] <noelia> daftykins Thank you :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> nicomachus, take a look at ClientAliveInterval TCPKeepAlive and ClientAliveCountMax in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:44] <genii> nicomachus: There's no default timeout, but server can be set with ClientAliveInterval to disconnect
[20:44] <daftykins> noelia: "lshw -C network" would also be great
[20:44] <nicomachus> thanks OerHeks, there now.
[20:45] <stupid_admin> ioria: strange; groups returns `groups #users sudo afspag-1106262091`
[20:46] <nicomachus> OerHeks: ClientAliveInterval and ClientAliveCountMax aren't in the file. TCPKeepAlive is set to "yes"
[20:46] <stupid_admin> ioria: shouldn't `sudo usermod -a -G davfs2 stupid_admin` add me to davfs2; what am I missing?
[20:46] <noelia> daftykins http://pastebin.com/f0q4CJM9
[20:46] <ioria> stupid_admin, your user  should shows up in the output if you added to it
[20:47] <daftykins> noelia: ok so Realtek RTL8188EE - that's a known bad one. can you also do "uname -r" ? that's a single liner so it can be pasted here direct
[20:47] <ioria> stupid_admin, did you login/logout ?
[20:48] <stupid_admin> ioria: logout/login? seriously?
[20:48] <noelia> daftykins 3.13.0-24-generic
[20:48] <ioria> stupid_admin, it's important when you add user to new group
[20:48] <ioria> *s
[20:48] <daftykins> noelia: did you install recently? it's HUGELY out of date
[20:49] <stupid_admin> ioria: OMG, you're so correct. This is "one weird trick"; I did an "Ctrl+Alt+F1" and logged into a real tty; groups shows I am added to davfs2
[20:49] <noelia> daftykins I actually installed Ubuntu 14.04 yesterday
[20:49] <ioria> stupid_admin, yeah....
[20:49] <daftykins> noelia: ok so you need to update; if the wifi is this bad, can you connect to your home router with a cable - if your laptop has a wired connection, just to perform the update?
[20:50] <noelia> daftykins You mean updating to Ubuntu 15.10?
[20:51] <daftykins> noelia: no, updating to 14.04.3 with the latest kernel and software packages
[20:52] <stupid_admin> ioria: okay, thanks - now I can do `mount ~/BoxSyc` on real tty; also this stack-exchange bug is weird. Apparently, the warning is benign
[20:53] <spilt_milk> hey fellas
[20:53] <ioria> stupid_admin, i see , not an expert of that, sorry
[20:54] <spilt_milk> i'd like some sort of curses/terminal based connection to a hipchat xmpp server
[20:54] <spilt_milk> i'm using weechat now but open to anything
[20:54] <spilt_milk> any ideas?
[20:54] <noelia> daftykins I must say, I skipped the installation of some updates during the installation of Ubuntu
[20:55] <noelia> daftykins Because it took too long to download
[20:55] <daftykins> noelia: yeah, there's no point trying to identify issues until you're fully up to date :) so use a wired connection to bypass any issues.
[20:56] <bemagic> Need help
[20:57] <daftykins> ask away, with detail, on one line please :)
[20:57] <bemagic> how to change my boot screen picture on ubuntu mate
[20:58] <OerHeks> I think mate-tweak can do that?
[20:58] <OerHeks> !info mate-tweak
[20:58] <nicomachus> daftykins: is there a fix for that rtl8188 driver? I've got a dongle that uses it on another machine, but I got so fed up with it I just bought a new one.
[20:59] <daftykins> nicomachus: not a clue, not really my area
[20:59] <daftykins> realtek are best avoided
[20:59] <nicomachus> ^ truth.
[20:59] <nicomachus> lesson learned there.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> <3 realtek
[21:01] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: you dropped this: /s
[21:02] <Guest12428> hi, I have a notebook with ubuntu 15.04 and a nvidia 940m. After installing nvidia-352 and nvidia-352-updates (and a restart) I just saw a black screen.
[21:02] <daftykins> Guest12428: you can't have both together, are you typing from another system?
[21:02] <Guest12428> I have removed the drivers but what driver do I need?
[21:03] <MrCurious> is there a limit on the number of hard disk devices? i.e. is it possible to go past /dev/sdj?
[21:03] <MrCurious> i seem to max out at 10
[21:03] <daftykins> Guest12428: sounds like you have an nvidia optimus laptop, with intel + nvidia hybrid; can you confirm with "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and sharing the link here?
[21:03] <Guest12428> daftykins, mby I should not have installed nvidia-updates...
[21:03] <daftykins> MrCurious: don't see why not, you got drives not showing up?
[21:04] <Guest12428> daftykins, http://termbin.com/53m2
[21:04] <MrCurious> good catch.. added a thumb drive and got sdk…
[21:05] <root____2> list
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest12428: is this a filly up to date installation? also "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[21:05] <root____2> exit
[21:05] <daftykins> ...
[21:05] <daftykins> heh filly, i meant fully up to date
[21:05] <Guest12428> daftykins, http://termbin.com/qccq
[21:06] <vinny_> hello all
[21:06] <daftykins> Guest12428: you've modified this with a mainline kernel... any particular reason?
[21:06] <Guest12428> daftykins, not rly. I wanted to try something. is this kernel unstable?
[21:07] <daftykins> Guest12428: it just causes hassle with things you're about to do - what make and model is this system?
[21:08] <Guest12428> daftykins, "make and model"? what do u mean?
[21:08] <daftykins> the company if it's a laptop
[21:08] <Guest12428> daftykins, ah. lenovo t450s
[21:09] <daftykins> Guest12428: are there any controls in the BIOS to pick the graphics hardware in use, or such? i'm seeing no evidence there of it trying to use the nvidia, but that could be the alternative kernel at fault
[21:10] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: Sorry about the late reply.
[21:10] <vinny_> Ubuntu 14.03lts no longer boots, showing grub rescue prompt
[21:10] <OneM_Industries> I ran the command just as you typed it, and it is still set to 352.63.
[21:11] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: so do you still want to go back or...
[21:11] <OneM_Industries> Yes, I do want it to go back.
[21:11] <daftykins> vinny_: what changed? upgrade? also i assume that's 14.04.3
[21:11] <Guest12428> daftykins, first I have chosen an nvidia "additional driver". because I wanted to use 'oclHashcat' some cuda stuff. I don't know much about it
[21:12] <daftykins> Guest12428: right but you said you removed all that to boot back in, correct?
[21:12] <Guest12428> y
[21:12] <BottomNotch> My laptop will not boot to Ubuntu after installing xcfe4, it says running in low-grapics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will have to configure these yourself. Help please!
[21:12] <vinny_> would not reboot after video card unplugged. most suggestions on forum tried already.
[21:12] <daftykins> Guest12428: so just to double check, "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* "
[21:12] <Guest12428> daftykins, at startup I see an error "Error parsing PCC subspaces from PCCT"
[21:12] <daftykins> vinny_: so this system has no graphics card? or...?
[21:13] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot
[21:13] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[21:13] <Guest12428> daftykins, sudo apt-get purge nvidia* removed nothing
[21:13] <vinny_> plugged card back in, pulled out by accident
[21:13] <OneM_Industries> OK, BRB.
[21:14] <daftykins> Guest12428: good good. now undo that kernel you've added, because it'll likely be complicating matters
[21:14] <daftykins> Guest12428: or just use the GRUB boot menu to pick one of the supported 3.19 versions installed
[21:14] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[21:14] <daftykins> you should have 3.19.0-33 on 15.04 there
[21:14] <genii> vinny_: This sounds more like a hardware issue
[21:15] <BottomNotch> My laptop will not boot to Ubuntu after installing xcfe4, it says running in low-grapics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will have to configure these yourself. Help please!
[21:15] <daftykins> BottomNotch: graphics card and driver?
[21:16] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: intel graphics
[21:16] <daftykins> BottomNotch: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? (don't need one really)
[21:17] <BottomNotch> Have no idea
[21:18] <OneM_Industries> I am back.
[21:18] <OneM_Industries> Ok, what next daftykins?
[21:18] <daftykins> BottomNotch: can you check...
[21:19] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: have you installed any graphics driver PPAs, such as xorg edgers... etc
[21:19] <vinny_> grub rescue prompt is a hardware issue? your thinking HD is bad
[21:19] <BottomNotch> daftykins: how can I check without booting?
[21:19] <daftykins> vinny_: no he's not, he's thinking you messing around with a graphics card has done damage of another kind :)
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> No.
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> I have not.
[21:19] <daftykins> BottomNotch: you can boot to the low res X just fine, just switch to TTY1 with ctrl+alt+F1 then login there
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> I am only using the ones from nvidia.
[21:20] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok; "apt-cache policy nvidia-346 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:20] <daftykins> no, packages are not from nvidia :)
[21:20] <daftykins> only the manual file installs are from nvidia
[21:20] <OneM_Industries> http://termbin.com/6wc5
[21:20] <OneM_Industries> Ah, ok.
[21:21] <daftykins> well that's some funky result
[21:21] <OneM_Industries> For some reason, whenever I enter nvidia-346, it wants to go to 352.
[21:21] <daftykins> guess there's no more 346 for you
[21:21] <Guest12428> daftykins, where can I change the kernel version of the default grub entry?
[21:21] <OneM_Industries> Only problem is, 352 doesn't work for me.
[21:21] <daftykins> Guest12428: don't do it permanently, just press escape / hold left shift before boot and pick it from the menu
[21:21] <daftykins> !info nvidia-346 trusty
[21:21] <daftykins> yip dead
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> Doh.
[21:22] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: was this one of those hybrid laptops, or what? and what does 'not work' mean?
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> I have a game that I play that apparently only works on 346.
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> And no, this is my desktop.
[21:22] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, but I do have xorg.conf.failsafe
[21:22] <Guest12428> one more with nvidia diver problems? ^^
[21:23] <daftykins> totally unrelated; yours isn't a driver problem either i don't think
[21:23] <OneM_Industries> If I try to run it on anything else, it crashes trying to load a map due to all the standard shader passes becoming unsupported.
[21:23] <Guest12428> rebooting...
[21:24] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ok that's fine, are you using wifi on that system or wired LAN?
[21:25] <BottomNotch> WiFi, I can go on wired LAN if I need to though.
[21:25] <vinny_> bye
[21:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: nah that's alright, was just to find out whether it's online right now
[21:25] <daftykins> my guess is it won't be
[21:25] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: what game?
[21:25] <OneM_Industries> Unturned.
[21:26] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: by the way, i get the feeling that you've been in here breaking your setup quite often then needing a few patches applied... what gives? :)
[21:26] <parapan> daftykins: http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/doc/tutorial/T19_3a_xmingputty.htm - this is working like hell man ...
[21:26] <daftykins> define "like hell"
[21:26] <serses> where do i find winusb?
[21:26] <parapan> daftykins: just wanted to let you know if others are asking ...
[21:26] <OneM_Industries> At least with this one, it was not me goofing up. ;)
[21:26] <Guest11330> daftykins, ok I have restarted my system with kernel 3.19.0-33-generic
[21:27] <daftykins> parapan: i don't know if you're saying good or bad
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> serses  wrong channel, this is for ubuntu support
[21:27] <parapan> daftykins: I mean is working out of the box; it doesn't require install, is working from USB or from local HDD with no admin rights ...
[21:27] <serses> my wireless driver isn't working
[21:27] <daftykins> parapan: ah ok.
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | serses
[21:28] <serses> i've tried that already
[21:28] <serses> no results
[21:28] <parapan> daftykins: so it's a good solution; maybe you can give it a try some time to check it on yourself ...
[21:28] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: And with the other issues, usually it is me trying to be tech support for others and discovering the limits of my knowledge.
[21:28] <SlidingHorn> none?  no errors, terminal output, etc? odd..............
[21:28] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: can you go any older than 346?
[21:28] <parapan> ioria is not here anymore ...but I already said thanks to him/her . ..
[21:28] <OneM_Industries> No, I tried those. Same issue.
[21:29] <serses> i've tried dmesg | grep Network but i get no error
[21:29] <daftykins> parapan: no, because i do not need that functionality and would not use a system remotely graphically :) SSH is the answer.
[21:29] <noelia> Hello again
[21:29] <zidsal> would anyone mind giving me a hand? I'm trying to install ubuntu and when it comes to the choosing the partitions screen the installer just crashes. I've tried booting in via the try ubuntu and opening gparted however the only drive gparted can find is my usb. Does anyone have any ideas?
[21:29] <BottomNotch> oops, I wasn't plugged in and my battery died. After I boot back up should I try to ping somthing, daftykins?
[21:29] <Guest11330> daftykins, should I reinstall the driver with the different kernel?
[21:30] <noelia> daftykins I tried with a wired connection and it just doesn't work :(
[21:30] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sure; pretty sure wifi would only connect if the desktop comes up ok though
[21:30] <daftykins> BottomNotch: although you can probably get it to; just at low res, eh?
[21:30] <franco_gb> help, my ubuntu window bars disappeared and no keyboard shortcut works!
[21:30] <daftykins> noelia: can you be a bit more descriptive than "doesn't work" ?
[21:30] <frite> i want to search a directory for a file name
[21:30] <frite> how?
[21:31] <frite> the filename contains haar
[21:31] <noelia> daftykins It doesn't get connected to the home network nor to the internet, the ethernet adapter doesn't work
[21:31] <OneM_Industries> Ooh! Now it works!
[21:31] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: what's that?
[21:31] <franco_gb> i usually kill the power to my machine and reboot. But is there another way?
[21:31] <OneM_Industries> Really, really slowly, and really dark, but it kinda works.
[21:31] <daftykins> frite: "find /path/to/look/in -name "*haar*"
[21:32] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: At the dialog I mentioned when I first asked for help I could press ok and I had some options one of which was to boot with low graphics, I tried that and it just hung at the boot animation
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> frite  try   find . -name 'haar*' -exec ls -l {} \;
[21:32] <daftykins> franco_gb: you can log in at ctrl+alt+F1
[21:32] <OneM_Industries> Odd.
[21:33] <OneM_Industries> So, now at least it runs.
[21:33] <noelia> daftykins I downgraded from 15.04 to 14.04 because certain games asked for too high hardware requirements
[21:33] <parapan> daftykins: ok, I love ssh also, this tool uses the same ...X11 over ssh ...only that some time it is too complicated ...
[21:33] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you mean you ran it since purging all nvidia* ? that'd just be using the open source driver then
[21:33] <daftykins> parapan: yes i know how it works - believe me; i just don't personally believe in doing so :)
[21:33] <OneM_Industries> But the gamma is all the way up, and I have gone from a stable 60FPS to 15 at the max.
[21:33] <parapan> daftykins: do you know by the way what components needs to be started for the complete desktop to be shown ?
[21:34] <noelia> daftykins But internet speed used to be high with Ubuntu 15.04
[21:34] <daftykins> noelia: i think what you should do, is use another computer to download a 14.04.3 ISO and reinstall.
[21:34] <daftykins> noelia: one way or another, you need to get up to date.
[21:35] <daftykins> noelia: running an older ubuntu is not going to make your computer any faster in games though
[21:36] <noelia> daftykins If not 14.04.3... which Ubuntu version do I have installed in my computer?
[21:36] <nicomachus> daftykins: that actually depends on the game... if it's in Wine, sometimes 14.04 is going to be better than 15.10
[21:36] <daftykins> 14.04.0
[21:36] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: At the dialog I mentioned when I first asked for help I could press ok and I had some options one of which was to boot with low graphics, I tried that and it just hung at the boot animation
[21:36] <daftykins> nicomachus: right but we'd be taking a leap to say we're talking about wine;
[21:37] <Decco848> Frite, its common in a the most recent update of mate to find the search option IN Just off the panel Within the Places drop down list. Additional search methods would be someone Else's knowledge as i have not used the command line syntax
[21:37] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yes; mmm it's very odd to see things fail so, what other options does it present?
[21:38] <noelia> daftykins How do you know that? Just asking, I would like to be able to know which version I've got
[21:38] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I already pressed ctrl alt f1, what's the console command to reboot?
[21:39] <daftykins> noelia: because your kernel is out of date and when i asked you to run "cat /etc/issue" you came up with 14.04 but not 14.04.1, or 14.04.2, or 14.04.3
[21:39] <daftykins> noelia: so download and install 14.04.3 :) it's the best plan
[21:39] <daftykins> BottomNotch: no need to, ctrl+alt+F7 gets you back
[21:39] <noelia> daftykins Thank you very much indeed
[21:39] <noelia> :)
[21:39] <daftykins> ^_^
[21:39] <daftykins> my pleasure
[21:41] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it seems to be hanging at the boot animation again, or it's just taking a long time.
[21:42] <zidsal> does anyone have any ideas on why ubuntu can't find my hard drive when I'm trying to install it via my usb? the only thing that seems to be mounted is the usb
[21:42] <daftykins> BottomNotch: at the first TTY, (F1) does "dmesg | tail" give you anything that looks like repeating errors?
[21:43] <noelia> By the way... Does MAC filtering affect wired connections?
[21:43] <serses> does ubuntu 14.04 support more drivers?
[21:44] <daftykins> noelia: no;
[21:44] <daftykins> serses: than 12.04? sure.
[21:44] <serses> than 15
[21:44] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, just some stuff having to do with wlan.
[21:44] <daftykins> serses: no, it's older... however 14.04 can get the kernels from newer releases
[21:45] <ich_> daftykins, as u said I switched to kernel version 3.19. what nvidia driver should I install?
[21:45] <noelia> Then I don't understand why I can't connect to the internet with a wire. I mean, whenever I connect a wire and ping www.google.com, the output is "Network unreachable".
[21:46] <daftykins> ich_: oh you're the guest from before; "sudo apt-get clean" first off then try "sudo apt install nvidia-352 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[21:46] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I can take a picture of what I got if you want to
[21:46] <daftykins> ich_: watch very carefully to make sure it creates a module for your 3.19 kernel
[21:46] <BottomNotch> I'm on my phone anyways
[21:46] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sure; imgur.com is good
[21:46] <daftykins> noelia: can you ping your router's IP address?
[21:47] <noelia> daftykins No, I can't either. "Network unreachable".
[21:48] <daftykins> noelia: sounds like your wired interface doesn't even have an IP
[21:48] <noelia> daftykins That's right, it doesn't even get an IP via DHCP
[21:48] <daftykins> noelia: do you have access to another computer? it'd make life a lot easier to just download 14.04.3 and get it installed on there
[21:48] <jack_> logout
[21:49] <ich_> daftykins, yes. I don't know why I am not a guest any more :) is it ok if it prints something like "building for 3.19 and 4.3... building init module for 3.19" ?
[21:49] <noelia> daftykins Is it possible to download 14.04.3?
[21:49] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: http://imgur.com/guHws5O
[21:49] <noelia> daftykins I thought you could only download 14.04
[21:50] <daftykins> noelia: no it's the image available on the main page; http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[21:50] <daftykins> 14.04.3 desktop amd64 = 64-bit
[21:50] <nicomachus> noelia: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[21:50] <ich_> daftykins, installation is complete. I will restart now
[21:52] <niekas> "More Ubuntu phones coming soon…" < When could be this "soon"?
[21:52] <daftykins> niekas: #ubuntu-touch
[21:53] <niekas> daftykins: thanks
[21:54] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: http://imgur.com/guHws5O
[21:54] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yep, nothing of importance there really. so was it just the package "xfce4" you ran?
[21:55] <daftykins> ran the install of, that is
[21:58] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I did sudo apt-get install xcfe4 but it said there was something wrong and to run it with --fixmissing or apt-get update. I ran sudo apt-get update tried again same thing then I tried with --fixmissing and it install, and worked unroll I rebooted.
[21:58] <ich_> daftykins, I have installed "nvidia-352 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings" after a restart I again got a black screen so I have purged everything
[21:58] <Li> how to change between disk "not partitions" using cfdisk?
[21:59] <daftykins> ich_: alright, what did we say about graphics options in your BIOS? were there any?
[21:59] <daftykins> BottomNotch: mmm so it could be some nasty stuck in a middle state sort of thing; do you still have a flash drive or DVD around that you installed from?
[22:00] <ich_> daftykins, oh. forgot that. what exactly should I check?
[22:00] <daftykins> ich_: look for any settings to pick between adapters
[22:00] <bprompt> Li:     check the man pages :/  ->  cfdisk /dev/hdc   <--- to change to /dev/hdc device
[22:01]  * Decco848 falling back
[22:02] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I think so but I have no idea where and I forgot to label it. Also, I used a dvd and I don't have access to a dvd reader right now.
[22:03] <daftykins> borrowed an external optical drive the last time, or something?
[22:05] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, my laptop's docking station has one and I leave it in my robotics room at another building
[22:05] <daftykins> brodul: bit old school using 'hdc' today, no? :)
[22:05] <ich_> daftykins, in the bios settings I can just adjust the intel graphics memory
[22:05] <marcanuy> How can I solve this dependency problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13375530/ I can't configure libssl and it breaks all my other packages dependencies
[22:06] <daftykins> ich_: alright, often the Lenovos are pretty bad at working with the hybrid graphics options - if you boot with the 3.19 kernel again, can you share an X log from that?
[22:06] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah ok. hmm, at TTY1 can you run "sudo apt-get -f install" and report whether it does anything?
[22:07] <ille> marcanuy: if u do sudo apt-get install libssl do u got anything?
[22:08] <marcanuy> ille: "E: Unable to locate package libssl" (ubuntu 15.10)
[22:08] <ille> marcanuy: if u run udo apt-get install openssl
[22:08] <ille> sudo apt-get install openssl *
[22:08] <ille> openssl should include libssl
[22:09] <ich_> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/vjtjk0tm
[22:09] <marcanuy> ille: tries to install it and then "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[22:09] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: a lot of stuff came up but it looks like there are no issues, at the end it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 75 not upgraded.
[22:09] <daftykins> ich_: is it possible you at any point blacklisted nouveau or similar?
[22:09] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah, not upgraded isn't ideal though. hmm hang on
[22:10] <ille> marcanuy: did u google? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924941
[22:11] <ich_> daftykins, "blacklist uas". I removed this line
[22:12] <ich_> daftykins, this was because I had (or have) a problem with an usb flash drive
[22:12] <daftykins> ich_: ah i see you found two logs this time; can you check the date and time on both of those with "ls -al /var/log" and tell me if they were definitely your most recent boot or not?
[22:12] <BottomNotch> Lol, your like Superman daftykins, helping everyone at once
[22:13] <marcanuy> ille: yes, I've been there, I've spent the last 4 hours with this issue :,(
[22:13] <daftykins> it wasn't very wise XD it's quite confusing this :D
[22:13] <ich_> daftykins, this time? I can see my actual date and time
[22:14] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: well I appreciate it.
[22:16] <daftykins> ich_: would it be accurate to say that you've tried a lot of modifications with drivers already to try and resolve this one?
[22:16] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I'm getting kinda tired of this, maybe I should just restore a backup and try to install lxde.
[22:17] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I am having a really big problem I tried installing bumblebee today but it didn't work, so I tried uninstalling it and now I can't use my nvidia 960m, every time I reboot the option in the x server settings gets switched to the intel card and when I just relog, the screen goes black for a few seconds then goes back to the login screen
[22:17] <timg___> hi, i am looking for a printer with scanner with great ubuntu support. any idea?
[22:17] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i'm a fan of xfce, installing from xubuntu media is the best way - modifying a unity install goes pear shaped easily :)
[22:17] <daftykins> timg___: picking hardware might be better in ##linux really
[22:17] <OerHeks> timg___, check the openprinting database
[22:18] <timg___> thanks, i am going to take a look
[22:19] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: yeah, I can see that. I wonder if I would have these issues if I hadn't purged unity after installing xfce
[22:19] <ich_> daftykins, mby. I installed the 4.3 kernel. inside the "additional dirvers" window I selected the nvidia (proprietary, tested) driver. after a restart and a black screen I purged nvidia*. after that I tried nvidia-352... purged it... so yes I think so
[22:20] <OerHeks> ..good to tell that afterwards.. removing unity
[22:20] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah. didn't know that part :D
[22:20] <daftykins> OerHeks: +1
[22:21] <daftykins> ich_: oh and that's it? odd. i don't think the Lenovos tend to play ball with hybrid graphics so much. can you share a "dmesg" ?
[22:21] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: yeah it just now occured to me to mention that
[22:21] <Bashing-om> BottomNotch: "purged unity after installing xfce" can rip out a lot of things in the system . Might be as you guess better served now to do a clean fresh install of the desired DE .
[22:21] <ich_> http://termbin.com/o1s5
[22:21] <ich_> daftykins, http://termbin.com/o1s5
[22:22] <daftykins> BottomNotch: +1 to Bashing-om 's suggestion, i'd focus on making some live media if you can
[22:22] <daftykins> ich_: just going to look up the downloads for this system, T450s you said... may i ask what country you're in for which Lenovo site to browse?
[22:22] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: what live media should I make?
[22:22] <serses> can i update the linux kernel if i downloaded the latest kernerl?
[22:23] <daftykins> BottomNotch: if you want to try out Xfce, xubuntu 14.04.3 for an LTS release would be great
[22:23] <OerHeks> serses, sure, by hand
[22:23] <serses> how?
[22:23] <ich_> daftykins, austria. yes, T450s with a 940m
[22:23] <daftykins> serses: if you're talking about from kernel.org then that's not supported
[22:23] <serses> i install it as dpkg?
[22:23] <serses> i have a .deb file
[22:23] <OerHeks> serses, you really *need* a reason to do so, take the kernel from mainline
[22:24] <OerHeks> !mainline
[22:24] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: so your suggesting a fresh install?
[22:25] <OerHeks> serses, make sure you use the open videodriver, else you might need to fix those
[22:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yep
[22:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: or get yourself somewhere you can use a wired network connection perhaps
[22:26] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I've always been where I can get a wired connection, I'm only a few feet away from my router
[22:26] <n0000b> hi I have a Killer 1535 wifi card in  my laptop and I cannot get it to work with ubuntu
[22:26] <n0000b> I followed the instructions on the killer website
[22:26] <n0000b> but one of the commands is generating an error
[22:27] <n0000b> I would really appreciate it if someone could please help me out
[22:27] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah ok, hop on it and try "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" then after that, "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop"
[22:27] <OerHeks> n0000b, what does lspci or lsusb say about that device?
[22:27] <OerHeks> the 8 digit hex number gives a clue about chipset
[22:27] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: ok, I tell you how it goes
[22:28] <n0000b> 06:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
[22:28] <n0000b> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:e301 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[22:28] <n0000b> Those are the outputs
[22:29] <daftykins> ich_: ok so already the newest BIOS, mmm it's not really behaving anyway which i'd expect, did you do an EFI install?
[22:30] <zidsal> has anyone managed to get ubuntu installed on the new dell xps13? when I try to install it from my usb it can't find my hard drive. Any help would be amazing
[22:30] <ich_> daftykins, how can I check this? xD
[22:31] <daftykins> ich_: ah it doesn't matter. do you have your 15.04 boot USB or DVD to hand still?
[22:32] <ich_> daftykins, no
[22:33] <daftykins> ich_: can you make one?
[22:34] <ich_> daftykins, yes. but what for if I may ask?
[22:36] <hubbunny> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu as a dual boot with windows 7. My disk has 4 current partitions. If I want to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 I understand I have to remove a partition or change from primary to logical. Can anyone advise the best option?
[22:36] <daftykins> ich_: i'd like to see a 'dmesg' of a live session booting
[22:36] <daftykins> hubbunny: what are you typing from now?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> zidsal: Residual meta data on the drives ? what returns ' sudo wipefs /dev/sda ' Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) and their offsets.
[22:36] <hubbunny> my 7 machine
[22:37] <hubbunny> daftykins
[22:37] <daftykins> hubbunny: run diskmgmt.msc and share a screenshot of the disk to imgur.com please
[22:37] <hubbunny> daftykins grand gimme two secs
[22:37] <zidsal> Bashing-om will try that in a second just noticed that raid enabled I will add that this is a brand enw laptop
[22:38] <OerHeks> n0000b, some equal devices need the atheros 10k firmware, http://www.killernetworking.com/support/knowledge-base/17-linux/20-killer-wireless-ac-in-linux-ubuntu-debian
[22:38] <OerHeks> and this > http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation/691563
[22:38] <hubbunny> daftykins here you go https://imgur.com/WTzMqUS
[22:39] <wilde> two partition haven't a file system
[22:39] <Bashing-om> zidsal: A desktop install will not deal with raid .. that is the realm of a 'server' install .. else there are several hoops to jump through to utilize raid in a desk top situation .
[22:40] <hubbunny> wilde one is for the ubuntu install
[22:40] <serses> if download the latest ubuntu will it come with the newest kernel?
[22:40] <wilde> ok.but fle system is needed.fat32 and 512mb of swap
[22:40] <daftykins> hubbunny: if you run "msinfo32" also, do you see a "BIOS Mode" entry in the right portion?
[22:40] <zidsal> Bashing-om turning off raid solved the issues
[22:40] <zidsal> don't know why it was enabled by default on my laptop
[22:41] <Bashing-om> zidsal: :) .
[22:42] <hubbunny> daftykins 'BIOS Mode' being the name of the item? no I don't just 'BIOS Version' and 'SMBIOS'
[22:43] <daftykins> hubbunny: alrighty, do you plan to use just that spare 20GB for Ubuntu or to give it some more?
[22:44] <hubbunny> daftykins well for now it was just for Ubuntu. I would however like to have a fresh install with basic space set for win7 and Ubuntu and the rest of the drive set up as shared but that can wait.
[22:47] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: dist-upgrade finsished, about to install xubuntu, cross your fingers!
[22:47] <Bashing-om> BottomNotch: Has my attention .
[22:48] <pilne> am... i missing something or is chrome not in the 15.10 repos? i can find chromium, but not chrome
[22:48] <Seveas> pilne: you're not missing anything.
[22:48] <OerHeks> pilne, correct.
[22:49] <pilne> is it missing for a reason that i missed somewhere?
[22:49] <OerHeks> You need the deb from the google site, it installs the downloadpackage & key
[22:49] <waressearcher2> there is that tool "free" it shows RAM usage is there some tool that shows what memory kernel uses ? like that variable vm.min_free_kbytes it sents some amount for kernel to use, so how to find out how much kernel uses now of that limit ?
[22:50] <OerHeks> waressearcher2, top
[22:50] <OerHeks> or install htop, my favorite
[22:51] <pilne> so.. blargh, i have to *manually* do updates for something?? not just apt-get update/upgrade? >.< lol
[22:51] <daftykins> pilne: no Google's package installs a PPA, then it can get updated - don't blame Ubuntu for Google's actions :)
[22:51] <OerHeks> pilne, no, that package provides the gpg key so it can update
[22:52] <pilne> ahhhh, so it is just a silly ass way of google doing things >.<
[22:52] <OerHeks> and ppa indeed
[22:52] <Bashing-om> pilne: Depends on what that "something" is . If it is of our repo .. that is all that is required .
[22:52] <user> ls
[22:52] <OerHeks> they do not allow us to distribute chrome.
[22:52] <daftykins> hubbunny: in my experience if you don't do it now, you never will :) i see some messy partitions on there indeed from a factory install, 7 typically only has 2 partitions when installed in BIOS legacy mode.
[22:52]  * pilne makes a note that google can do some silly-ass shit too
[22:52] <OerHeks> firefox btw is also just the metapackage.
[22:53] <daftykins> hubbunny: anywho, i think 20GB will be quite tight depending on if you want to use sleep or hibernate at all
[22:53] <pilne> fair enough, i wonder why google doesn't want the metapackage in the repos
[22:53] <OerHeks> pilne, me too.
[22:53] <daftykins> since it's closed source i guess it's not allowed in
[22:53] <Bashing-om> pilne: As I understand it .. chromium is the test bed for google-chrome .
[22:54] <pilne> yeah... i'm too old to be test-bedding shit i have no intention of contributing to at the moment :p
[22:54] <hubbunny> daftykins haha thats a true point. I'm just hesitate as I've alot of software installed I need and it would be a pain to resinstall them all. Actually I want to use the ubuntu partition to install Snort IDS for a project. I can afford to allocatate more space to that partition.
[22:54] <waressearcher2> OerHeks: top only shows what RAM system uses, I need those kernel's buffers
[22:54] <daftykins> hubbunny: sounds like you'd be better off with a VM in virtualbox
[22:55] <hubbunny> daftykins hmm well I have been planning to dual boot with Ubuntu for a while to have it as daily user.
[22:56] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: xubuntu-desktop installed
[22:56] <daftykins> boot13: and reboot!
[22:56] <hubbunny> daftykins I'm just wondering whats the best plan of action for installing ubuntu now. As I understand it Ubuntu will not install alongside my Win7 if there are 4 primary partitions
[22:57] <daftykins> hubbunny: have you prepared a flash drive with ubuntu yet?
[22:57] <hubbunny> daftykins I have. but when I try to install the only option is to install inside not alongside
[22:57] <daftykins> are you sure you're not just trying to run the wubi.exe that's on there? we don't support that
[22:58] <daftykins> you definitely booted from it yeah?
[22:58] <bprompt> hubbunny:     4primary is fine, ubuntu can use either of the 3 that aren't being used by windows
[22:59] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it was hanging at the boot animation, rebootng
[22:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Back and ready
[22:59] <zidsal> I've got another quick question. I've installed ubuntu on my dell xps and there is a known issue where you cannot get internet on it until you install bcmwl-kernel-source. However when I try and install the .deb files I get errors. I was wodnering if anyone knew an alternative way I could quickly get internet e.g. via my phone? so I can install the file from apt-get
[22:59] <hubbunny> daftykins perhaps thats the issue, I followed a guide using usbinstaller to set the usbdrive as bootable. should I do it a different way to avoid using the Wubi.exe?
[22:59] <daftykins> bprompt: no it already has 4 is the point, already got this one in hand :)
[23:00] <daftykins> hubbunny: well you need to restart out of Windows and then boot the PC from that flash drive - is that what you did, or?
[23:00] <hubbunny> daftykins yes thats what I did
[23:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: I jere too .. OK.. We clean up the /boot partition . We want to keep the kernel that the touchpad is compatible with . Do you know which it is ?
[23:00] <daftykins> hubbunny: it'd be handy if you could come back on here to run a few commands from ubuntu - you can use webchat if you're not already to get on here
[23:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is there any way we can get a list of installed kernels so I don't have to shut down and restart again?
[23:01] <pilne> has anyone gotten steam to work without command line fuckery in 15.10 yet?
[23:01] <micl_> hi
[23:02] <hubbunny> daftykins, I'm using xchat so I can switch to web. So if I simply select try ubuntu vs install will that work?
[23:02] <daftykins> hubbunny: yeah it'll start a live session to work from
[23:02] <hubbunny> daftykins grand be back in a min so
[23:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[23:03] <bprompt> zidsal:    http://ftp.psu.ru/linux/ubuntu/pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/   <---- you could try installing manually, the 6.30 would be the lastest one, use that and do a -> sudo dpkg -i YOURFILE.deb <- to install it
[23:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: That's not going to work, I'll restart and get it from there... I'm not going to be able to narrow it down from the items on the list
[23:04] <SupaYoshi> hi guys, im trying to setup a kvm-qemu virtualserver, however i am having an hard time doing it on ubuntu server.
[23:04] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it booted, I logged in and now I just have a blue background with a mouse and my cursor, no other UI elements
[23:04] <SupaYoshi> Can anyone help me out? I had some tutorials, and they are talking about virt-manager, and this is where I get stuck.
[23:05] <ModFather> Hi There, can i install Ubuntu MATE version to Raspberry Pi 1 ( 2011 model ) ?
[23:05] <zidsal> bprompt I will try that bluetooth tethering from my phone isn't working
[23:05] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ok, same trick to get to TTY1 then "sudo apt install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:05] <daftykins> ModFather: #ubuntu-arm might be of use
[23:06] <cheetahw26> I'm upgrading some custom software from ubuntu 12 to 14, but it seems a lot of the packages we were using are not available... is there a way to add the old repository to install some of them?
[23:07] <hubbunny> daftykins: Back in live session now
[23:07] <daftykins> hubbunny: if you run the terminal program, "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" will produce a link to share here
[23:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: The origional and working kernel is 3.16.0-30-generic and current is 3.19.0-33-generic
[23:08] <hubbunny> daftykins: http://termbin.com/qtlz
[23:09] <bprompt> cheetahw26:    I'd say nope, can you include the old repository? yes, will the package work with new libraries in 14? nope, the older apps may require specific versions of the library, and the 14 install may have a newer version, or may do without it since it's functionality may have been grouped onto another lib
[23:09] <zidsal> sweet got it working via usb tethering
[23:09] <daftykins> hubbunny: mmm so it is indeed as you feared, you'll either need to backup your data; try using a GUI partition tool on ubuntu there to delete partition 2 and then move the resulting ones back to the front of the drive so you only have 3, or just wipe the lot and start from scratch
[23:10] <daftykins> hubbunny: you might have a factory recovery disc set to burn to DVD / create ISO files from on that Windows install from that current 21.5GB partition 2.
[23:11] <daftykins> hubbunny: though personally i just clean install from official vanilla windows 7 media
[23:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; so we need a list of what is installed . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' and we then remove old kernels.
[23:12] <hubbunny> daftykins: hmm ok thanks for looking. I presume I can just download a win7 iso and install fresh and ubuntu after
[23:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: Mighty long list here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13377437/
[23:12] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: sorry that took so long, I kept trying to do apt-get instead of apt-get install :p paste.ubuntu.com/13377403/
[23:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: So i expected ..take me a bit to cradt the removal commands.
[23:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Have fun I guess is the least I can say...
[23:14] <daftykins> hubbunny: yeah, i think there's still a legit MS page to grab one proper - not sure if this works https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
[23:14] <hubbunny> daftykins: thanks very much I'll do this in the morn.
[23:15] <daftykins> hubbunny: np :)
[23:15] <the_count> daftykins: I'm supprised that they still host a page wor W7 downloads
[23:15] <daftykins> the_count: they did, they were all pulled due to newer versions being out
[23:16] <daftykins> the_count: oh you mean that they do, i don't know if it works. US only site too.
[23:16] <daftykins> anyway, off topic here
[23:16] <daftykins> BottomNotch: hrmm can you double check "cat /etc/issue" ?
[23:17] <the_count> daftykins: I try to keep those ISO's around, and yes, the second one, I hope hubbunny has a product key
[23:17] <daftykins> the_count: same here, but still off topic
[23:18] <the_count> daftykins: Right
[23:18] <kauwa> what exactly is the channel topic?
[23:18] <daftykins> type "/topic" and you'll see
[23:18] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it just shows Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:19] <daftykins> or read the top line in your client
[23:19] <daftykins> kauwa: short version: support, support... and more support.
[23:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. been problems for a while ! .. let's take a gentle poke at it ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-41-generic ' See what the poke yields .
[23:19] <kauwa> #ubuntu : you're not a channel operator. Thank God for that!
[23:19] <daftykins> BottomNotch: "ls -al /home/username/ | pastebinit" ?
[23:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looks good to me... I think that was the kernel which we first installed long ago... There were no errors.
[23:21] <BottomNotch> paste.ubuntu.com/13377678/
[23:22] <kauwa> I'm having problems with wine running MetaTrader 5
[23:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-45-generic ' .
[23:23] <bazhang> !appdb | kauwa
[23:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good
[23:23] <bazhang>  /join #winehq for that kauwa
[23:23] <kauwa> thanks Mr. ubottu
[23:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic ' .
[23:24] <mrrellik> join /#Hak5
[23:26] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good, and do you know at the moment how to speed the pointer up, this is very handicapping.. It is at max in settings, although it may be a part of the xorg problems we were dealing with, I would suppect it is as with the origional kernel, the pointer is at normal speed
[23:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. see this "rc  linux-image-extra-3.16.0-30-generic" the start of the problem . where 'rc' is removed - yeah thge kernel that works ! but config files remian . When we can we will RE-Install this one .
[23:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: What does that mean/imply?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: As to the pointer . must be in the settings for the touchpad, that at this time you can not access .. - my best guess - .
[23:27] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: That makes sense
[23:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: The -30 kernel, can say no more about it . To our present work ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-41-generic ; .
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: I meant, what does the ' rc ' mean?
[23:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: And this one removes succesfully, although it didn't give nearly as long of list as it was being removed
[23:31] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: my orc client crashed, have you told me to do anything else?
[23:32] <BottomNotch> My irc client, dang autocorrect
[23:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: "rc" is (R)emoved, (C)onfig files remain . Next is ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-45-generic ' .
[23:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I see, and removed succesfully
[23:33] <AlexQ> Hi. After upgrading to Xubuntu 15.10, booting freezes after some time. However, I can successfully boot into Recovery mode, and from there boot even further to desktop, although with an enormous number of "System problem detected" windows on top of one another that are there from the very beginning.
[23:33] <AlexQ> So, I guess a good starting point would be checking the boot log from the normal boot. How can I do that? When booting normally, the splash screen freezes and I can't switch to another vterm usint Ctrl+Alt+Fn
[23:35] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, there is another couple ' rc ' further down the list as well
[23:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.16.0-{46,48,50,51,52,53,}-generic '
[23:36] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: my orc client crashed, have you told me to do anything else?
[23:36] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sorry had to step away for a sec, is your username really 'username' or did you edit it? :D
[23:36] <the_count> BAshing-om: Do I enter that command as is, or one at a time cycling through the options?
[23:36] <daftykins> BottomNotch: anyway "sudo chown -R username: /home/username/" then reboot with "sudo shutdown -r 0"
[23:37] <BottomNotch> My username really is username ☺
[23:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. I got side tracked and missed those other 'rc' go ahead and take them out too at this time .// That command ^^ as is .. crafted for your use .
[23:37] <daftykins> heh
[23:38] <telldrak> Hello
[23:38] <ichdasich> heho
[23:38] <bprompt> allo
[23:39] <micronottee> hi, does cat have any file size limit?
[23:39] <AlexQ> For some reason, it seems that my Intel driver is still from oibaf ppa. git-99840eb 2015-11-20 vivid-oibaf-ppa
[23:39] <ichdasich> is there a valid security contact process for canonical infrastructure?
[23:39] <the_count> BAshing-om: Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378229/ was the result of that command, and remove the other 'rc' as I did for the others?
[23:39] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:39] <telldrak> So, I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, but have managed to sort out a lot on my own. I've got to a point where I could use some assistance. I have a web-server running on Ubuntu 14.04 on Digital Ocean, and have Apache2/MySQL/PHP5 on it. I am trying to get sendmail set up for it. I have three domains running, and need to get mail going for two of them
[23:39] <bprompt> AlexQ:    I'd think it'd be at /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log    which IIRC you can just get by using "dmesg"
[23:40] <telldrak> I'd greatly appreciate some resources if you have some that you think would be helpful
[23:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378229/ . yeah .. just substitute the correct version version number . should be clear at this point fot the 'rc' kernels .
[23:41] <AlexQ> micronottee: I don't think so, it uses standard input/output mostly, so limited by the filesystem I guess
[23:42] <bprompt> telldrak:     did you mean to post that at #ubuntu-server ?
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: Nothing there. I think Xorg logs are somewhere else. What is IIRC?
[23:42] <telldrak> bprompt: Now that I'm aware of it, I'd imagine so. Thank you :)
[23:43] <bprompt> AlexQ:     IIRC irc ling for If I Recall Correctly =)
[23:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Aparently none of those 'rc' are installed
[23:43] <bprompt> s/ling/&o/
[23:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Onesec... that wasn't right
[23:43] <AlexQ> bprompt: Thanks. dmesg is a general boot log, and X.org log is something else, but I guess X is also worth checking
[23:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Try again ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.16.0-{46,48,50,51,52,53}-generic ' silly little comma I had but in . removed now .. should run .
[23:44] <BottomNotch> chown: missing operand after 'username:/home/username/'
[23:44] <bprompt> AlexQ:    done an "fsck" yet while at the recovery mode?   from a root shell
[23:44] <AlexQ> yeah, it was fine
[23:45] <tron103> Is it possible to generate a d-i netboot initrd.gz+kernel from a working system?
[23:46] <bprompt> AlexQ:     I assume " sudo apt-get check " turns up nothing..... wondering if some package isn't configured, couldn't hur to do a " sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[23:46] <AlexQ> I did reconfigure as well
[23:47] <bprompt> rats!....ok
[23:47] <AlexQ> bprompt: I had problems with apt as well, but these seem to be resolved
[23:47] <AlexQ> How do I remove a ppa?
[23:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: This one will not remove, says it is not installed but is still in the list when I rerun it: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic '
[23:47] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | AlexQ
[23:47] <AlexQ> I thought it's not there anymore, but it seems I have my graphics driver from a custom ppa with newer driver. Would like to purge that and try to install the official one
[23:48] <bprompt> k
[23:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wow, that's a whole 1.1gb to remove of kernel's...
[23:48] <telldrak> heh. Crickets in #ubuntu-server
[23:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: It's removing these files and giving warnings that kernel headers are missing, and installing these headers will fix the problem
[23:50] <bprompt> telldrak:    well, crickets are better than cockroaches methings =)
[23:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, you have lost me .. no idea what linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic relates to . It does not in fact exidr . Need hand holding ?
[23:50] <bprompt> thinks rather, shoot, typo
[23:50] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[23:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: It was one of the 'rc'. You should find it on that previous pastebin
[23:51] <daftykins> BottomNotch: anyway "sudo chown -R username: /home/username/" (space after the :) then reboot with "sudo shutdown -r 0"
[23:51] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: chown: missing operand after 'username:/home/username/'
[23:51] <telldrak> bprompt: perhaps, but I need to get somewhere on this asap. I have two store sites that haven't sent any e-mail in a couple of weeks. :/
[23:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: You can see what I am trying to say here, look at the warnings... My terminal is also set to only hold a linited number of lines, so only part of it is there. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378569/
[23:52] <AlexQ> bazhang: PPA to be removed: oibaf graphics-drivers
[23:52] <AlexQ> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: oibaf graphics-drivers
[23:52] <BottomNotch> Ok hold on
[23:52] <genii> daftykins: You can use chown username.   or username :groupname
[23:52] <genii> daftykins: ...but not username:
[23:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am now confused where we are and what is happening . square 3 : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-41-generic ' the -30 kernel we want to KEEP .
[23:53] <daftykins> genii: sure i can, username: makes it username:username auto
[23:53] <AlexQ> bazhang: But it seems I still have a package from that ppa. So after purging that package and installing it again I should get the original one, yeah?
[23:54] <genii> daftykins: Doesn't work here.
[23:54] <AlexQ> bazhang: But of course it would be best to replace all packages from that ppa with the original ones
[23:54] <bazhang> AlexQ, the official one you want is from where
[23:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I sent you a couple entirely different things, when you told me to remove sudo dpkg -P  linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic
[23:55] <Bashing-om> the_count: "http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378569/" that output looks great . to be expected that the ystem rebuilds as kernels are removed .
[23:55] <daftykins> genii: weird, what's your example? fine here on 14.04
[23:55] <BottomNotch> Dadtykins: I did what genii said
[23:55] <AlexQ> bazhang: From normal Ubuntu repos, main probably. Ops, I guess it's from Ubu repo. Talking about xserver-xorg-video-intel. Version: 2:2.99.917+git1511200733.f6e931~gd~v Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[23:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: That one was an 'rc' But I cannot remove it... It says that it is not installed but still populates thelist
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[23:55] <daftykins> BottomNotch: you just didn't have a space where one was needed; anyway as long as "ls -al /home/username/" shows all but ".." as owned by username:username ; you can reboot
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: And you just referred to the other part I was trying to tell you.. You got it
[23:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: I may have messed up .. too much on my mind .. the -25 kernel relates to the 3.19.0 (19!!) series .
[23:56] <AlexQ> bazhang: It was dpkg -s. So it is so new? 20th of Nov '15?
[23:56] <BottomNotch> I put a space where you said and got the same message
[23:56] <bprompt> telldrak:   http://effectivewebdesigns.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-set-up-sendmail-on-your-ubuntu.html#.Vk-1wedB0ok          or     http://askubuntu.com/questions/47609/how-to-have-my-php-send-mail    maybe?
[23:57] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am now lost ... from square one ..a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See if I can get us a level playing field .
[23:58] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I rebooted, same issue as before
[23:58] <bprompt> telldrak:    there's a channel #open_atrium that seems to be LAMP based, just a few folks though
[23:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't think you are confuzing youself, the 3.19.0-33-generic is current... We were removing everything but the ' 3.16.0-30-generic ', the one which works
[23:58] <daftykins> BottomNotch: are those files ok on the ownership front as mentioned? i think it's time to give up.
[23:59] <BottomNotch> Yeah they were
[23:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: This is current: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378749/ from ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '