[03:39] <RoyK> telldrak: sendmail?
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: I haven't used sendmail for 10+ years
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: try postfix
[03:40]  * sarnold shivers
[03:42] <RoyK> Savemech: is that sendmail abstience, sir?
[03:43] <sarnold> RoyK: I've been clean and free from sendmail for 17 years sir, and I'd like to keep it that way. I'm really looking forward to my 20 year chip.
[03:43] <RoyK> hehe
[03:44] <RoyK> :)
[04:05] <patdk-lap> heh, I don't get the whole m4 stuff in sendmail
[04:05] <patdk-lap> sendmail is great at what it does, but being simple is not one of it's things
[04:05] <patdk-lap> but I do use sendmail, for things postfix cannot do, but that is pretty rare
[04:06] <JanC> what would that be?
[04:06] <patdk-lap> identd uucp mainly
[04:07] <patdk-lap> but sendmail.cf is just a scripting language, so it is infinitely adjustable, to completely non-smtp standards
[04:07] <sarnold> funny enough, I think the last time I used sendmail it was to bridge between uucp and mmdf.
[04:08] <patdk-lap> use it on customer webservers, for ident support :) makes tracing abuse much easier
[04:09] <patdk-lap> most of the time that is overkill, as the from is left to the default
[04:10] <sarnold> hah :)
[04:36] <telldrak> thanks for the feedback, guys
[04:36] <telldrak> looking into postfix instead
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:38] <balintx> hi, I'm using ubuntu server 14.04 and Apache 2.4.16 from the repository. the problem is I get an email every 5 minutes from cron daemon stating * Starting web server apache2
[11:38] <balintx> anyone met this?
[11:39] <bekks> Check your cron configuration.
[18:13] <grendal_prime> ok who has time to look at an email server config with me?
[18:13] <grendal_prime> better yet..who is familar with zimbra?
[18:14] <grendal_prime> I got the install done and the server is working...just werid things....
[18:21] <Sling> yeah I used zimbra for about a year, but got fed up with the heavyweight stack
[18:21] <Sling> and now just run postfix+dovecot
[19:12] <grendal_prime> sling, ya i need something with calendaring built in
[19:13] <grendal_prime> so you got some time to help me wrap my head around a few things..im getting close but the whole email server thing and how i get it worked in with dns is starting to make me a little crazy.
[19:15] <grendal_prime> here is the layout.  I have a domain and a software router that handles the front door on that.   software router is doing its thing via iptables.  I also have a dhcp server on there and two seperate networks. One is a virtual host with about 20 servers running on it.
[19:16] <grendal_prime> its on say...192.168.108.0 and the second network is for staff its on 192.168.16.0
[19:16] <grendal_prime> my zimbra server .."zimbra" is running on the 108 subnet.
[19:18] <grendal_prime> now.  I set up a bind9 dns server and it seems to be working right now.  I have a zone for each of the subnets and one for the domain "booksnmore.com"
[19:19] <grendal_prime> zimbra server is accesible on local network as zimbra.booksnmore.com
[19:34] <RoyK> grendal_prime: and then?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> so i set up a mx record that was zimbra.booksnmore.com with nesol.
[19:35] <RoyK> nosol?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> and i was able to send email to my gmail account and back to admin@zimbra.booksnmore.com.
[19:36] <grendal_prime> network solutions ..sorry
[19:36] <grendal_prime> thing is ..i need the email address to be just booksnmore.com
[19:36] <grendal_prime> so..admin@booksnmore.com
[19:37] <RoyK> that's a zimbra config
[19:37] <RoyK> quite easy in the admin web
[20:16] <grendal_prime> ok...i guess i just dont get this..
[20:17] <grendal_prime> i have an a record
[20:17] <grendal_prime> then i create the mx record ...it points to the a record.
[20:18] <grendal_prime> do i need to create an A record that matches the mx record?
[20:19] <grendal_prime> so i have an A record of booksnmore.com   and an mx record of zimbra.booksnmore.com   thats it thats all i need at network solutions correct?
[23:33] <vacho> hey guys, I am installing a web server and I just deployed an ubuntu 14.04 image... I remember there are two recommended commands to run that will update everything to latest secury and stable, anyone care to help?
[23:38] <patdk-lap> autoupdates :)