[00:00] <AlexQ> Now I run apt-get update and it got stuck on updating trying to connect to a server via IP6, while my ISP doesn't provide it xD ... Okay, recovered
[00:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: Checking the new list .
[00:00] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: can I restore a backup from the command line?
[00:00] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i don't know how you backed up
[00:01] <BottomNotch> I backup up from system settings in unity
[00:01] <daftykins> telldrak: what are you doing to want sendmail on these hosts? running internal email?
[00:01] <the_count> telldrak: What exactly is the issue?
[00:01] <BottomNotch> Backed up autocorrect :/
[00:01] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i have no experience with that
[00:01] <BottomNotch> I'll Google it
[00:02] <BottomNotch> I should have never of purged unity
[00:02] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:02] <BottomNotch> Lesson learned
[00:02] <the_count> daftykins: What kind of issues does purging unity introduce
[00:03] <BottomNotch> If I end up having to do a fresh install I think I'll try Linux mint, maybe my touchscreen will work.
[00:03] <daftykins> hmm, kind of irritating for you to try and learn via those already tasked with helping but...
[00:03] <daftykins> BottomNotch: that'll be an even bigger mistake :)
[00:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe I should restart, then repopulate that list... The results may be different/better
[00:03] <daftykins> 1) installed xfce i think? 2) purged unity 3) they both share packages, so unity removal took out what xfce needed to run - leaving a hosed system
[00:04] <BottomNotch> It was fine until I rebooted :/
[00:04] <daftykins> lol
[00:04] <BottomNotch> But yeah exactly what happened
[00:04] <daftykins> and *BANG* the desktop environment is gone!
[00:04] <the_count> daftykins: oh, oops
[00:05] <AlexQ> daftykins: Why would purging one package remove it's dependencies that are also dependencies of a different package?
[00:05] <the_count> daftykins, how do you make you're *BAND* think?
[00:05] <BottomNotch> I'm just gonna try to install lxde
[00:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: That ouput is the same as the 1st .. agreed .. restart the system and let's get a new look .
[00:05] <daftykins> the_count: sorry this isn't IRC school
[00:05] <the_count> daftykins: I think I accedentally descovered it
[00:05] <daftykins> AlexQ: all we know is it broke, i care not the why right now.
[00:06] <the_count> BAshing-om: Ok, see you in a bit
[00:06] <Decco848> its often there is not change to exsisting files in use too other packages, If not the volume managment doesnt htink we got to much harddrive space
[00:06] <BottomNotch> Well thanks for all your help daftykins
[00:07] <daftykins> np, we tried
[00:07] <AlexQ> Well, I purged that Intel GPU driver and now I have 2:2.99.917+git20150808-0ubuntu4. So apparently it was from that ppa
[00:07] <the_count> daftykins: Point taken
[00:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, restarted, the kernel list is definantly shorter, but not as short as one world think, repopulating list
[00:08] <AlexQ> I'd like to replace all packages that came from that ppu with Ubuntu ones, but that command ppa-purge doesn't find the ppu
[00:08] <AlexQ> probably gone after upgrade
[00:08] <AlexQ> what to do?
[00:08] <BottomNotch> Dafttkins: well I will try Linux mint if I need to do a fresh install, I really want a working touchscreen
[00:09] <daftykins> BottomNotch: alright, just know you can't get any help with Mint here
[00:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think this list may look the same as well: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379098/
[00:09] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I know
[00:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; lookin.. lemme clear the board and we start all over ..
[00:10] <the_count> bashing-om: I will the same here as well
[00:10] <AlexQ> I'll try to reboot after purging & installing that Intel GPU driver... Although not optimistic at all
[00:10] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: well I'm up and running with lxde
[00:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK, show me what results ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[00:12] <BottomNotch> To bad I couldn't get xfce working
[00:12] <daftykins> probably something in there broken *shrug*
[00:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379227/
[00:13] <the_count> mobile irc client
[00:13] <the_count> sorry
[00:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: Checking http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379227/ .
[00:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yep, that one should be history .. now ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-48-generic ' .
[00:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Results look the same as previous
[00:16] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Oh I am getting the idea of what is going on . do ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-46 ' .
[00:17] <truexfan81> yum can be configured to limit the number of old kernels the system keeps before it auto removes them, does apt have anything like that?
[00:17] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Can you read this? Have I been muted? :(
[00:17] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: you are not muted :)
[00:17] <Decco848> To share, ive read articles of Drive mounting problems in USB Distros To know the parameters are undefined and nor reachable or allocative is Beyond me
[00:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: What's going on, and looks like it has been removed succesfully
[00:18] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Wooooo.
[00:18] <SupaYoshi> hey how do i add a br0, that asks for a second dhcp lease of my router?
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> I have a ubuntu server, trying to setup a virtualmachine and I want the br0 to receive an IP from the router.
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> I tried doing this, but that gave it the same IP as the eth0. and that doesn't look healthy
[00:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here were the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379481/
[00:19] <EriC^^> truexfan81: there's a script that checks that, you could probably modify it
[00:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Our former dpkg -P commands did complete, what we have now is the results of incomplete mass removals .. We will get caught up here in a bit .. now : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379501/
[00:20] <Decco848> Formatting by disc is harder,  esp' Without a bootable CDROM
[00:20] <truexfan81> EriC^^: in this case i only have 2 kernels installed but the new one is working nicely, so no reason i can think of to keep the old one
[00:20] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: not how it works at all
[00:20] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: let the VM get its' own via bridging.
[00:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, and my virtual desktops aren't around any more, thought I might point that out
[00:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Purged succesfully
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, i am creating a vm with kvm.
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> I need to specify which bridge device to use
[00:21] <Decco848> Setting jumpers and defining IDE on older machines is complicated, and Wondering why you cant boot from img is completly triffling.
[00:21] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: gotta install bridge-utils then edit /etc/network/interfaces then ; i'm sure there's a guide to KVM network config somewhere
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> ERROR    Error in network device parameters: Unknown network type br0
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> i have bridge-utils installed.
[00:22] <EriC^^> truexfan81: you can manually remove it if you want
[00:22] <EriC^^> with apt-get purge
[00:22] <daftykins> Decco848: please cut the chat, support only in here - you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-48 ; sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-48-generic ' .
[00:23] <JoeB> Mornin'
[00:23] <SupaYoshi> ERROR    Cannot get interface MTU on 'br0': No such device
[00:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[00:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next in line ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53} ' Lets do these 4 in one command .
[00:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: It ignored them all, says they aren't installed
[00:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall we try them separately?
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> sudo virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> i was trying this command however that returns an weird error that google doesnt have answers on
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> error: this function is not supported by the connection driver: virInterfaceLookupByName
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> error: failed to get interface 'eth0'
[00:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: My bad .. ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' corrected as the package manager was correct .. what was, was not installed .
[00:30] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: it's probably that you don't have a br0 yet because you've not created one by installing what i mentioned :)
[00:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, good
[00:30] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: /var/log/boot.log ?
[00:31] <dengxinjun> hello
[00:31] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I'll look at it!
[00:31] <SupaYoshi> i have bridge-utils installed
[00:31] <dengxinjun> Where's you doing?
[00:31] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: right but that doesn't magically create you a br0
[00:31] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379782/
[00:31] <daftykins> dengxinjun: ubuntu support questions only
[00:31] <dengxinjun> what's you doing?
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, do i need to put something in networking?
[00:32] <daftykins> right so the interface is called virbr0
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> no thats from virtualbox.
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> I was using that with virtualbox.
[00:32] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: what's the end goal here, what is this VM going to do...
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> I want another bridge.
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> The vm is going to run a freepbx distro.
[00:33] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Weird. I'm sure I saw at least one (1) [FAIL] there.
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> and i want it to access my lan. So i want it to be bridged with my lan.
[00:33] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: on shutdown maybe, but that doesn't remain visible now...
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, so what do i do to create br0?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next is same for the headers ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic '.
[00:33] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Dang. How do I catch it?
[00:33] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: so with virtualbox networking it should've been easy enough to get that VM to have an IP on your real LAN
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> no i am using kvm for this vm
[00:34] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: pass.
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> im not using virtualbox for this.
[00:34] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: You pass on that question?
[00:34] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: ugh, i think you're making life harder for yourself when you don't have the experience with any of these.
[00:34] <daftykins> anyway my battery is about to go so i think i'm out :)
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> I have used br0 before on something else.
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> I just want to learn it.
[00:34] <daftykins> find a guide then perhaps
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> Okay bye
[00:34] <daftykins> or ask in ##networking
[00:35] <daftykins> but i can tell you you're going about that task in a pretty insane way
[00:36] <SchrodingersScat> I keep getting connection errors with my reverse tunnel, http://paste.debian.net/334492 it eventually connects, just takes it a minute.  If I don't use it when it does connect, it seems to time out.  How do I troubleshoot this further?
[00:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Those aren't installed as well
[00:37] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:38] <SupaYoshi> help i just typed this, brctl addif br0 eth0, how can I undo this command?
[00:39] <Bashing-om> the_count: My bad again .. I am rattled and not think'n things through .. do ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53} ' // no generic this time !
[00:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: What is ' generic ' for?
[00:40] <SchrodingersScat> !man | SupaYoshi, try man brctl, if there's an addif, there may be a rmif or delif somewhere.
[00:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now the final in this series ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' .
[00:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: Done
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> okay fixed
[00:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: There are several packages required for each kernel .. -generic is one of the three .
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> thnx
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> anyone an idea what i have to do?
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> I want to bridge eth0 with br0
[00:43] <SupaYoshi> so br0 gets an IP from the dhcp server too.
[00:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: I see. Shall I restart again, or is there more to remove?
[00:43] <truexfan81> EriC^^: you are right, i could remove it very easily :-)
[00:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Gimme a tic .. as now we remove the old 3.19 kernel series .
[00:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Got it
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' apt-get purge linux-image-{26,28,30,31,} ' . three more commands to go .. try'n to keep this simple .
[00:49] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: see system log .0 or .1 in /var/log
[00:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: You added an extra comma again
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Thanks. But can you give me the full names? :P
[00:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, are those generic?
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oh, wait. Maybe I can find them.
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Is it called "syslog"?
[00:51] <k1l_> yes
[00:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yikes .. teach me to slow down with my edits ! ..  ' apt-get purge linux-image-{26,28,30,31} ' now does that run ?
[00:52] <birou15> @123Bnd
[00:53] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I can't find any "[OK]" or "[FAIL]" in there. :(
[00:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: You also forgot the beginning of the kernel release numbers... Not sure which ones you are on currently
[00:53] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they get recyled on every reboot. so look into the .0 or .1
[00:54] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: the things you see is dmesg, but since systemd is used that is not saved anymore.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: I did it once more ! yuk .. should be ' apt-get purge linux-image-3.0.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ' . Triple checked and now looks correct !
[00:54] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Gosh dang it. I might have to record my screen while the PC shuts down. XD
[00:55] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: i would not worry too much about that if it shuts down fine
[00:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: You got one extra .0 in there
[00:55] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I'm an expert at worrying. I just want to know what that one or two [FAIL] line(s) points to.
[00:56] <dcope> how can i debug random timeouts to an ubuntu 12.04 machine? trying to connect via ssh and curl a webpage being served by nginx will randomly timeout.
[00:56] <MonkeyDust> dcope  sounds like a ssh keepalive
[00:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: I must be more tired than I think .. yeah 3.19.0-{ .....
[00:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: And you mixed up the... the ' 3.0.19.0 ' should be ' 3.19.0 '
[00:57] <the_count> bashing-om: Been wondering if you were up a little too late last night
[00:57] <dcope> MonkeyDust: it seems to happen across the network to this machine though.
[00:57] <piercedwater> hello
[00:57] <dcope> ssh, nginx, etc.
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> dcope  i have to go now, but get an idea here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+ssh+keepalive
[00:58] <piercedwater> how do i access an application that requires network access, inside a chroot? I am trying to run madsonic in a chroot but I am unable to access it
[00:58] <Nyterax> how do i delete old kernels from /boot/ with bleachbit?
[00:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: Got it finally... Hey, and through this, I think I am learning something... Which is the objective   ...I think
[00:58] <k1l_> Nyterax: run "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[00:59] <Guy1524> hey guys so I tried to install ubuntu on my optimus laptop but whenever I try to use optirun I get this: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: did you install nvidia-prime?
[01:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, you deserve an upadate to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13380434/ It might make it a bit easier
[01:00] <Nyterax> k1l_, i do that but the generic kernels are still there, while i use lowlatency
[01:01] <Guy1524> i think so let me check
[01:01] <k1l_> Nyterax: then sudo apt-get remove linux-generic && sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:01] <Guy1524> yes
[01:03] <Nyterax> k1l_, this is my /boot/ http://pastebin.com/gkCXkewB what can i remove safely?
[01:03] <k1l_> Nyterax: you need to remove the metapackage like i told.
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: wich graphics driver do you have active right now?
[01:03] <k1l_> Nyterax: but you only have a 3.13 lowlatency kernel there
[01:04] <k1l_> Nyterax: sorry, scratch that.
[01:04] <k1l_> Nyterax: just remove the linux-generic. that will drop the generic kernels
[01:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: Moving on along ' apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ; apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} '. One to go !
[01:05] <Nyterax> package 'linux-generic' is not installed, so not removed
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: you can find the list @ additional drivers (hardware icon)
[01:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm going to have to restart before I do that... The lock ile could not be opened... And another windows said that I needed to restart
[01:08] <Guy1524> oh sorry was part of another chat in #linux
[01:08] <Guy1524> I have 352 right now
[01:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is that fine?
[01:09] <Guy1524> basically they had no idea what was going on and I am reinstalling, downloading the iso right now
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: try 340 or 346 perhaps, and enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: iso?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: Preseed with 'sudo" .. as all we have ' sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ; sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} ' // that is the "lock file" .
[01:09] <Guy1524> ok, but when I do that it just resets
[01:09] <Guy1524> for reinstalling ubuntu
[01:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I did that with sudo
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: you dont need to reinstall mate, just right combination card/driver
[01:10] <Guy1524> ok, well it was working before but when i installed bumblebee it screwed everything up
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: bumblebee is outdated
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: use nvidia-prime instead
[01:10] <Guy1524> ok
[01:10] <Guy1524> just uninstalled bumblebee
[01:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can that be unlocked, or will I have to reboot?
[01:10] <Nyterax> k1l_, should i remove 'linux-generic-lts-vivid'?
[01:10] <Guy1524> but the problem persists i think
[01:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: Then, is there another instance of the package manager running ? as only one can run at a time ; so dpkg os "locked" .. give time for any other package manager to complete befire beginning another instance .
[01:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Don;t want to do anything that digs the hole even deeper
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: choose another driver/reboot/enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[01:11] <Guy1524> ok
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Guy1524 if things go wrong
[01:11] <Guy1524> i know to boot into recovery mode rebooting now
[01:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't believe another instance is running, I didn't open any others
[01:12] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: ok good :p
[01:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. then reboot .. and we pick it back up here.
[01:12] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok
[01:12] <quechon> hello
[01:12] <quechon> how everybody doing
[01:13] <Guy1524_> the same problem is happening
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: wich driver active now?
[01:13] <Guy1524_> when I reboot it switches from nvidia to intel
[01:13] <Guy1524_> intel
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: no mate, you need to choose another nvidia driver from additional drivers list
[01:13] <Guy1524_> and when I just relog instead of rebooting it just makes a black screen
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: tell me wich drivers you see there?
[01:14] <Guy1524_> where, in additional drivers?
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: yes
[01:14] <Guy1524_> I only see 352.63 normal, 352.63 updates, and the open source one
[01:14] <quechon> how can i fix this /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
[01:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooted, nothing happened... I had forgotten sudo on the second command
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: hmm, wich card do you have?
[01:15] <Guy1524_> gtx 960m
[01:15] <Nyterax> is it possible to allocate more space to /boot/?
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: tryed the opensource one?
[01:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now did  sudo apt-get purge
[01:16] <Bashing-om>                     linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} - no generic .. complete ?
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> quechon: explain what you are trying to do exactly to the channel
[01:16] <Guy1524_> why does it say my name has quit?
[01:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: yes
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: ping timeout
[01:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13380981/ update
[01:17] <Guy1524_> oh but im still on, ok
[01:17] <quechon> im trying to compile a scantool software
[01:17] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> !compile | quechon
[01:17] <quechon> ok ill read that thanks
[01:18] <kaypro4> hi from a kaypro4
[01:18] <Guy1524_> should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: no, try the opensource one
[01:18] <Guy1524_> ok
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: wich ubuntu version is this?
[01:19] <Guy1524_> 15.10
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: if that fails, you might wanna try a 14.04.3 liveusb to test your card/driver
[01:19] <Guy1524_> do I have to reboot for it to take effect?
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: yes better reboot
[01:19] <Guy1524_> k
[01:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: '  sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ' .
[01:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: It says none of those are installed
[01:21] <Guy1524> same problem with open source drivers
[01:21] <Guy1524> i am going to reinstall thanks for the help anyway though
[01:22] <Guy1524> and like linus torvalds said, fuck you nvidia (:
[01:22] <the_count> Guy1524: What happened?
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: try LTS for more stable
[01:22] <Guy1524> nothing out of the ordinary, nvidia linux drivers stink
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: we had other users with your card working fine!
[01:22] <the_count> Guy1524: I see
[01:22] <Guy1524> Im fine, 15.10 was working fine other than having no multi monitor support
[01:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Lemme check what I missed this time -- I did think I checked ! The latest list does show they are gone . Gimme a bit to see where next we jump to .
[01:26] <Nyterax> i did sudo apt-get remove linux-generic-lts-vivid and then autoremove but it still shows up in dpkg -l along with all the generic headers, is that normal?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK .. moving on along with the clean up ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-48-generic  ' .
[01:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... And also... I did install Gnome a while back and removed it, could that cause any issues.. i did this from the ubuntu software center.
[01:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: The last command did work
[01:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next in clean up ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[01:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:30] <Bashing-om> the_count: As to removing an installed additinal desktop .. Yeah can cause real problems as some required dependencies might also get removed . and or rip a big whole in the operating system . I am not a proponent of removong any DE .
[01:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well... This was a month or more ago... It should have shown some immediate results I would think
[01:33] <kaypro4> anyone tried ubuntu on one of the latest dell xps15 machines?
[01:33] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: Will not affect what kernels are installed however .
[01:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Exactly
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: better ask your issue on it mate
[01:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-48-generic '
[01:35] <kaypro4> dont have an issue yet - just looking to see if its worth buying
[01:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: This isn't installed as welll. Update to the 'dpkg -l | grep linux-', http://paste.ubuntu.com/13381479/
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: sure mate, dell works like a charm with ubuntu
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: but alot of other brands also do
[01:37] <kaypro4> thanks.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' .
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: i suggest transforming a laptop yourself, by pluggin a samsung 850 pro ssd inside and install ubuntu LTS
[01:38] <daftykins> kaypro4: that one has the hybrid graphics, that'll give you hours of entertainment on every upgrade.
[01:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.19.0-25-generic '
[01:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:40] <bencc1> I'm trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 using KVM on a remote server
[01:40] <bencc1> it stuck after checking cd-rom. just see a purple screen
[01:40] <bencc1> how can I debug it?
[01:41] <zidsal> can someone here help me with something I'e tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source via the package manager however its stuck in applying changes
[01:41] <zidsal> anyway I can do something about this
[01:41] <lettuce45> what command do I need to extract a rar file?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now let's make sure all agree at this time . ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ' la -al /boot ' . If all agree we can now (RE-)install the 3.16.0-30 kernel .
[01:42] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> zidsal: you can install the broadcom driver right off your ubuntu iso
[01:42] <zidsal> lotuspsychje ok but how do I kill the package managers installation?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: * ls -al /boot ' .
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> zidsal: xkill
[01:43] <zidsal> lotuspsychje thanks
[01:43] <Decco848> CTRL-Z
[01:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: no " ' " or a ; sepparating?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah ya got it .. my bad syntax . ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ' .
[01:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13381725/
[01:47] <CarlFK> Whats the command to upgrade from one release to the next?
[01:47] <Ben64> do-release-upgrade
[01:48] <CarlFK> do... right. thanks
[01:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: i think it has to do with virtual desktops
[01:49] <dcope> hey all, how can i figure out why pinging an ubuntu 12.04 machine times out sometimes? http://pastie.org/private/btgqcadcgnwyqi3cvwevna
[01:50] <dcope> this is all on my lan so im not sure where there are such spikes, too
[01:50] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Would it be safe to disable it?
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: try and see, you cant just break ubuntu with 1 setting
[01:51] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Oh, I'm not too sure about that. XD
[01:51] <hawly> dcope, errr... icmp echo reply on/off?
[01:52] <kum4n> Hello, anyone can tell me how to build certificate authority in Linux server specially in debian or ubuntu? Thanks, sorry for my bad English :)
[01:52] <dcope> hawly: what do you mean?
[01:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did you get that?
[01:53] <hawly> dcope, the only way I know to drop pings is messing w/ /proc
[01:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n // why oh why can we not sudo get rid of the 3.19.0-25? Let'rm -rf /lib/modules/
[01:54] <hawly> dcope, ah- iptables may do some tricks on this subject too
[01:54]  * hawly is getting old and having pain in parts of his body he never knew that existed!
[01:55] <kean> hello ,everyuone
[01:55] <mario_> hi kean
[01:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe propose to Linus to add english syntax so we can have commands such as those... Was that a command you were giving me?
[01:56] <dcope> hawly: there seem to be networking problems in general though. ssh sometimes times out... and now pings to the machine time out too
[01:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Continued : let's try ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic ' .
[01:56] <hawly> dcope, an "iptables -L" on that machine may reveal something
[01:57] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok
[01:58] <dcope> hawly: not much in there, http://pastie.org/private/mshclaofabxamdfiwleiw
[01:59] <hawly> dcope, im FUPing it
[01:59] <dcope> FUP?
[01:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: It returned nothing
[01:59] <hawly> follow up
[01:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic ; sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-linux-headers-3.19.0-25 ' .
[02:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: In linux a retun to nothisng is the system doing as told . no dsas or back talk .
[02:00] <hawly> dcope, that conf is weird man...
[02:00] <Nyterax> i did sudo apt-get remove linux-generic-lts-vivid and then autoremove but it still shows up in dpkg -l along with all the generic headers, is that normal?
[02:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: You weren't responding, that's why I said that
[02:01] <dcope> hawly: it should be the default one
[02:01] <dcope> ive never messed with iptables on this machine
[02:01] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry . can not look at outtput on different desktop and type here also .
[02:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: It's all ok
[02:02] <hawly> dcope, whats are problem freq and duration?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Did we do ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic ' ? I lost track again .
[02:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: We did not
[02:04] <hawly> dcope, you burst the pings and some reach and others not - or it stays some time frame without accepting?
[02:05] <TJ-> dcope: possibly a bad link; On the target PC, what does "ifconfig XXXX" report (where XXXX is the receiving interface) ?
[02:05] <quechon> i followed this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware but what im trying to build doesnt have a ./configure and i cannot auto create one either
[02:06]  * hawly is not network specialist - not a specialist at all - just a Linux enthusiast
[02:06] <ryao-phone> Is this a good phone for Ubuntu? http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-5-d820-32gb-white-unlocked-285132/
[02:06] <quechon> i get this when running make /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
[02:07] <quechon> i did a search for the lib file and i have it in my system
[02:07] <dcope> TJ-: http://pastie.org/private/hndcxlajwzpjrsjium4q
[02:07] <quechon> how can i point what im building to that file
[02:07] <OerHeks> ryao-phone, i don't think so, join #ubuntu-touch for phone support
[02:08] <OerHeks> err, there is a 'working' port , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[02:08] <hawly> dcope, can I see too?
[02:08] <TJ-> dcope: good news is, there aren't any TX/RX errors reported on that interface
[02:09] <dcope> this is so strange... i never had these issues on an old router
[02:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK, remove the ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic  ' .
[02:10] <TJ-> dcope: Now, on the target 12.04, run "sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 icmp". Then on the other PC start the ping. Observe if the 12.04 PC always sends out an ICMP reply for each ICMP request
[02:10] <ryao-phone> OerHeks: I am trying to decide on whether to get the Nexus 5 and install Ubuntu on it to replace my iPhone until the zero day situation with WebKit is resolved.
[02:11] <OerHeks> "Bluetooth doesn't work; Power management issues (the battery performance isn't great)" no
[02:12] <TJ-> dcope: "never had these issues on an old router" ... does that imply you've recently changed a router that sits between these PCs?
[02:12] <dcope> TJ-: yes, that is correct.
[02:12] <ryao-phone> OerHeks: I wish there was more explicit information.
[02:12] <dcope> i don't know why the new router would randomly cause intermitent issues though
[02:13] <hawly> kkkkkkkkk
[02:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I might have missed a message you sent withing the last 10 minutes
[02:13] <TJ-> dcope: "aha!" Then it would suggest that router is most likely the problem. Continue with the 'tcpdump' analysis as I recommended, so you can find out if the router is failing to pass on the ICMP request to the 12.04 PC, or whether the PC receives it, replies, but the router doesn't pass the reply to the source PC.
[02:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was disconnected temporarily
[02:14] <TJ-> dcope: But either way, assuming the 12.04 PC is behaving correctly, you need to investigate the router
[02:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Are we caught up ? ready to see if all our work is fruitful ?
[02:14] <dcope> TJ-: indeed. the 12.04 PC is sending replies right now
[02:14] <dcope> none have timed out while running tcpdump
[02:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Check this file again, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382781/ just to make sure
[02:15] <TJ-> dcope: Try to keep that running for an extended time; the results aren't useful if the problem doesn't exhibit itself :)
[02:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Check'n http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382781/ .
[02:15] <TJ-> dcope: what is the make/model of the router, and is it using stock firmware as supplied with it?
[02:16] <dcope> TJ-: it's an arris NVG599
[02:16] <dcope> with stock firmware
[02:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: What is it with that kernel ! Try again ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic ; sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.19.0-25 ' !
[02:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think that may have gotten it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382952/
[02:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are there not a few more we can remove?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n and now a new ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ' please .
[02:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383085/
[02:22] <TJ-> dcope: I can't see any issues reported around packet dropping for that device, so it is likely a local problem only. If you can prove (with tcpdump on both source and target PC) that ICMP packets (and possibly other packets - UDP, TCP) are being dropped, then you'll need to investigate the router itself. there might be some rate-limiting Anti-DDoS rules in its firewall causing that for example
[02:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n .. gimme a bit .
[02:23] <Bashing-om> the_count: One final one ! ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-31-generic '
[02:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383210/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383271/
[02:26] <scfith> ubuntu is awesome
[02:26] <the_count> scifith: Yup
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not have a clue but once more ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-49-generic ' .
[02:28] <treesiger> I heard France is going to drop bras, condoms, racy photos, cigarettes, wine in isis
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: NO on that last >.. we keep that 49 kernel ... !!
[02:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good, because it wasn't working
[02:29] <Ubuntu2330>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Ubuntu2330 jpwhacqtunvn
[02:29] <the_count> BAshing-om: Why do we keep the 49 kernel?
[02:29] <Ubuntu2330> lolz
[02:30] <Ubuntu2330> So, anyone here know anything about using full disk encryption via the automatic setup when installing? I'm having to reboot every few times to get cryptsetup to actually run and let me log in.
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> !ot | treesiger
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> Ubuntu2330: change your password now
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> for IRC?
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> Ubuntu2330: everyone saw it
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> That wasn't my password
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> just the registration verification
[02:31] <dcope> lol
[02:31] <dcope> TJ-: so when running tcpdump it _will not_ timeout at all
[02:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: We have the 3.19 broke .. working is 3.16.0-30 ; want to keep a back up of a 3.16 kernel.
[02:32] <the_count> right
[02:32] <dcope> but ssh times out while trying to connect a new session... wtf :(
[02:32] <treesiger> He may have to change every password he uses. A African hacker might of seen it and clean his bank accounts out
[02:33] <TJ-> dcope: That is strange, and it suggests some kind of sensitivity to timing of packets
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> treesiger: stop that please
[02:34] <the_count> Bashing: I see, we do want to leave a backup
[02:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK. now all looks good to me .. let's have the package manager heal it's self ' sudo atp-get -f install ' . Next up is to (RE-)install 3.16.0-30 to pick up the missing packages .
[02:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: ** ' sudo apt-get -f install ' .
[02:36] <the_count> bashing-om: I saw it... Nothing happened
[02:36] <dcope> this is so strange... :(
[02:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'sudo apt-get -f install ' and no output ?????
[02:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: There was results, not of repairing, but of autoremoving... That was it.. No "healing"
[02:38] <TJ-> dcope: is one of the PCs on Wifi?
[02:38] <dcope> TJ-: yes, the client (the one im on now) is on wifi
[02:39] <dcope> i tried plugging in via ethernet earlier today and had the same results
[02:39] <connor_> hello
[02:39] <TJ-> dcope: I'd suggest using Ethernet on both sides whilst testing, purely to elliminate any possible variation due to the Wifi. But it sure looks like you have a dud router, or else bad config in it
[02:40] <connor_> Hi, I'm having some trouble finding what is taking up space in xubuntu, which is full
[02:40] <connor_> would anyone be able to help?
[02:41] <Ubuntu2330> connor_ try KDirStat?
[02:41] <connor_> it says command not found
[02:42] <Ubuntu2330> install it from software manager
[02:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK. show me that result ' sudo apt-get -f install '
[02:42] <connor_> when i do df -h it says /dev/sda1 is pretty much full
[02:42] <connor_> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:42] <connor_> /dev/sda1        13G   12G  9.4M 100% /
[02:42] <connor_> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[02:42] <connor_> udev            482M  4.0K  481M   1% /dev
[02:42] <connor_> tmpfs           100M  1.2M   99M   2% /run
[02:42] <connor_> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[02:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383958/
[02:44] <connor_> hello?
[02:44] <connor_> oh sorry
[02:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n
[02:45] <connor_> Would anyone be willing to help me find out what's taking up so much space in xubuntu?
[02:45] <connor_> when i run df -h, I get this:
[02:45] <connor_> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK .. I can accept that .. go ahead and ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' as those 32 bit files are no longer needed .
[02:45] <connor_> /dev/sda1        13G   12G  9.4M 100% /
[02:45] <connor_> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[02:45] <connor_> udev            482M  4.0K  481M   1% /dev
[02:45] <connor_> tmpfs           100M  1.2M   99M   2% /run
[02:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: Removed
[02:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I reboot?
[02:49] <iceiceice> hi, i installed ubuntu 15.10 recently,
[02:49] <iceiceice> it works great but it made my Grub boot loader kind of ugly, is there a way i can switch back to the classic look?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Might be a good thing now to reboot . Boot back to this kernel .
[02:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: I am in the latest now and will be for as long as I can
[02:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, rebooted
[02:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Hold tight . dotting some 'i's here .
[02:54] <the_count> :D
[02:56] <BirdJesus> guys, how i can make dropshadow\borders for maximized windows?
[02:57] <the_count> BirdJesus: How would that work?
[02:58] <BirdJesus> i`ll show in pics :P
[03:00] <BirdJesus> http://i.imgur.com/lUnrueJ.png its maximized window, there is no shadows\rounded corners
[03:01] <BirdJesus> http://i.imgur.com/o3OJfE0.png thats i want it look like
[03:02] <Decco848> HTML 5 is amazing.
[03:03] <the_count> BirdJesus: How about you go to the channel that Desktop is made by...
[03:03] <Decco848> FYI
[03:03] <BirdJesus> ok, sorry
[03:03] <BirdJesus> thank you
[03:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK; I think as we have the 3.16 kernels we want to ' sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-utopic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic ' and then we can properly install the 3.16.0-30 kernel .
[03:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, installed
[03:06] <the_count> BirdJesus: You're welcome
[03:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: K: NOW finally ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-30 linux-signed-image-3.16.0-30-generic ' .
[03:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: This whole process has freed about 4gb of disk space so far
[03:13] <daftykins> probably more a sign you had a bunch of kernels on there? :>
[03:15] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Uhh. CCleaner on Windows can list ALL files from biggest to smallest. Can Linux do the same?
[03:15] <the_count> daftykins: Yes
[03:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. I will be interested to see a new ' df -h ' .
[03:16] <Decco848> ;X
[03:16] <the_count> bashing-om: It finished... If there is anything else that has to be done now tell me fast as I have to go...
[03:16] <Decco848> Palete*
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | VictoriaXOXO
[03:16] <the_count> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13385138/
[03:16] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: BB can do that?! :o
[03:16] <daftykins> i've seen that bleachbit hose a couple of folks systems now, not sure it's ideal :>
[03:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: That is all for now .. tomorrow we go back to work on the touchpad .
[03:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, thank you, and ahve a good one... ' sudo get some sleep '
[03:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch @ " /dev/sda6        76G   65G  7.2G  91% / " we still have work to do !
[03:18] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: daftykins: I am... not... finding that in BB.
[03:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a lot of things of mine on this drive as well
[03:18] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: trying to find a direct replacement for every single Windows program you may've run in the past isn't really that good an approach imo
[03:18] <Decco848> im going to off topic CIOA for now rommies
[03:19] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, give me a terminal command then. ;)
[03:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: We can pick this back up later .. for now I am content that the system is stable .
[03:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Thanks, see you
[03:19] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i didn't see what you were asking to do
[03:19] <daftykins> i sense it's a futile request already though
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Read up. XD JK. I want to list ALL files from biggest to smallest.
[03:20] <daftykins> on the entire system?
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Yeah!
[03:20] <daftykins> what a ridiculous request; better would be to just use 'find' and look for files of a certain size.
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: It's not ridiculous to me!
[03:21] <VictoriaXOXO> I like seeing things like that.
[03:21] <daftykins> there's a graphical disk usage program that might be of use
[03:21] <daftykins> but maybe if i could understand your plan (which i don't) we could advise something better
[03:22] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, there's really no plan. I just wanted to know if it was POSSIBLE on a Linux box. I used to like doing that.
[03:22] <daftykins> but why
[03:23] <daftykins> when will this be relevant?
[03:23] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: When finding out what's taking up space. :P
[03:23] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: OR you could tell me how to find ALL files over 1 GB of size?
[03:24] <daftykins> i already did, find does that
[03:24] <daftykins> and i already told you there's a graphical disk usage program
[03:24] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Just find and nothing else?
[03:25] <daftykins> "find / -size 1G" or similar
[03:25] <daftykins> "man find" for more.
[03:25] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Let me try.
[03:26] <daftykins> i don't think that was the correct format
[03:26] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: You should've seen my terminal. XD
[03:27] <daftykins> no i'm ok.
[03:27] <daftykins> i was playing with the command myself; worked for me on a path i know i have a large file in by running "find . -size +1000M"
[03:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Yeah, that worked better.
[03:29] <VictoriaXOXO> I was sure I had some old VM file, but apparently not.
[03:30] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: ' sudo find / -type f -size +1G -exec du -h {} \; 2>/dev/null | sort -hr | head -n 10 ' which will search the whole filesystem for files bigger than 1G and then sort them and print the 10 largest ones (you can adjust the '1G' and the ' -n 10' if that's not granular enough) - you can exclude mounted filesystems with '-xdev' or a suitable '-prune' if you have a more complicated multi - partition filesystem .
[03:31] <linux666> Hi there
[03:31] <linux666> How do I use find command to find 'vmlinuz'?
[03:33] <daftykins> why are you looking for that?
[03:33] <kaypro4> find / -name vmlinuz -print
[03:33] <daftykins> vmlinuz is a symlink in /
[03:33] <linux666> to load the kernel manually daftykins
[03:33] <Bashing-om> linux666: ' sudo find /boot -name "vmlinuz*" ' should fill that bill .
[03:34] <VictoriaXOXO> Bashing-om: Not complicated at aaaaaaaall. :P
[03:34] <VictoriaXOXO> But I'll save it for future use.
[03:38] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: Hey .. you did ask .. it's linux ... where there is a will there is a way .
[03:38] <VictoriaXOXO> :o)
[03:52] <rising-ti> hi
[03:52] <rising-ti> whts up
[03:54] <rising-ti> hello
[03:55] <rising-ti> is everyone inactive af
[03:56] <daftykins> ask a question, it's support only in here
[03:56] <rising-ti> ok soz
[03:57] <rising-ti> does anyone know a beginer ai avalible to install on kali linux
[04:10] <Guest47237> hi there
[04:10] <Guest47237> anyone help me about installing utorrent on ubuntu mate
[04:13] <AlexQ> Hi
[04:14] <AlexQ> I have updated to Ubuntu 15.10, then performed repo update and upgrade, reboots etc. and the newest kernel I have is vmlinuz-3.19.0-33-generic
[04:15] <AlexQ> I have also installed Ubu 15.10 from scratch in parallel, on a different partition and I have vmlinuz-4.2.0-18-generic as of now
[04:15] <AlexQ> What's wrong?
[04:16] <AlexQ> Should I manually install a kernel package? What is the name of the newest stable available package for my architecture (amd64)? Any special package name?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> !hwe | AlexQ
[04:19] <daftykins> AlexQ: i bet you're missing linux-generic :)
[04:19] <AlexQ> daftykins: It is quite possible :)
[04:19] <daftykins> sudo apt install linux-generic
[04:20] <AlexQ> give me a sec for reboot
[04:20] <daftykins> or confirm with "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[04:20] <AlexQ> can I do it with chroot without rebooting?
[04:20] <daftykins> why are you rebooting at all?
[04:20] <daftykins> reboot has nothing to do with installing this metapackage
[04:21] <AlexQ> I am running another Ubuntu installation on my Laptop, just wanted to check if package is there without rebooting
[04:21] <AlexQ> to the other installation I have issues with
[04:22] <daftykins> so you have two side by side?
[04:22] <trustisimportant> hey guys, I have a question, is ubtuntu really more safe than windows, in terms of backdoors, etc?
[04:22] <TJ-> AlexQ: yes, a chroot is sufficient to check is it is installed
[04:22] <daftykins> trustisimportant: that's not a support question technically, you could talk about Linux in general vs. Windows in ##linux
[04:22] <TJ-> trustisimportant: I'd worry more about front-doors generally :)
[04:22] <AlexQ> yes, it isn't there
[04:23] <OerHeks> trustisimportant, ubuntu has no backdoors, not even windows.
[04:23] <trustisimportant> what is a front door :)?
[04:23] <trustisimportant> via the websorser? and programms?
[04:23] <trustisimportant> webbrowser*
[04:23] <daftykins> as i said, ##linux
[04:23] <TJ-> trustisimportant: user behaviour; browsing with Javascript/Flash enabled, opening attachments, etc.
[04:24] <trustisimportant> sorr y bro:)
[04:24] <daftykins> you are not my sibling
[04:24] <trustisimportant> ok, my trust in the world has gone, which channel do you recommend me?
[04:24] <daftykins> you've seen it named already, twice
[04:24] <AlexQ> TJ-: Interestingly, there are libc headers for 4.2.0-18.22 listed. 3.19.0-33.38 - was that the latest kernel for 15.04 then?
[04:25] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[04:25] <daftykins> yes
[04:25] <TJ-> !info linux-generic vivid-updates
[04:26] <TJ-> strange, the 'bot reports an older version than AlexQ has
[04:26] <TJ-> !info linux-generic vivid-proposed
[04:26] <daftykins> could be a little outdated?
[04:27] <TJ-> apparently!
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[04:27] <daftykins> o/
[04:29] <AlexQ> Might that be a reason that the system is not working correctly after the upgrade? I couldn't make much out from the syslog, bootlog, Xorg log etc.
[04:29] <AlexQ> Will boot into recovery and install linux-generic
[04:30] <AlexQ> after booting into recovery I had KernelOops's on that kernel I mentioned
[04:31] <AlexQ> OopsText:  NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [Xorg:1001]
[04:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: well you obviously want everything to match the same release version
[04:35] <AlexQ> ok, rebooting then
[05:10] <centaur5> Running 15.10 fully up to date.  Using network manager to set static IP everything works except DNS lookups completely fail.  In a browser pointing to an IP will load a page.  Any ideas?
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> hmm
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> i've compeletly lost all of my menus in ubuntu, rebooting didn't fix the problem
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> i'm running 15.04 default gui (which is unity i think)
[05:11] <crazyhorse18> i've managed to get access to a terminal window (by right-clicking on a folder, and clicking open in terminal)
[05:12] <crazyhorse18> is there anything i can do restart, or fix the issue?
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> centaur5 can you ping your router?
[05:12] <crazyhorse18> i'm also unable to resize windows or scrollbars
[05:12] <baiter> you lost?
[05:12] <baiter> you had it before?
[05:13] <crazyhorse18> yeah been working since i installed it.. today i tried to open a video in vlc, it crashed, took me to a terminal window with some text (ACPI or something)
[05:13] <crazyhorse18> so i rebooted and now none of the windows load
[05:14] <crazyhorse18> i'm just trying a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade just in case that will fix the porblem but i'm not hopeful
[05:14] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: try logging into a Guest session. if that works it tells you there's a user config file issue
[05:14] <curtis__> Hello!
[05:14] <centaur5> SeriouslyLaugh, yeah I can login to router admin page and everything. Can ssh to other boxes by IP. I specified DNS in nm-applet settings but it just doesn't work.  I'm on my laptop with static on 14.04 using wireless  and it fully functions.  My desktop is hard wired.
[05:14] <crazyhorse18> TJ-: got ya, thanks
[05:15] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> can you ping the DNS centaur5?
[05:15] <baiter> centaur, sounds more like a network issue
[05:15] <Guest16780> Hi
[05:15] <TJ-> centaur5: if you've configured the NM connection to use a static IP address, have you also configured the IP address of a DNS server manually?
[05:15] <baiter> there's a #networking channel
[05:15] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:15] <centaur5> SeriouslyLaugh, yes
[05:16] <Guest16780> Can someone be polite to tell me how I get into another chat room? I'm newbie
[05:16] <Guest16780> Thanks!
[05:16] <baiter> curtis, google ubuntu virtual keyboard
[05:16] <baiter> pretty sure it exists already
[05:16] <TJ-> Guest16780: type /join #<name-of-channel> e.g. /join ##linux
[05:16] <SeriouslyLaugh> make sure it's not down
[05:16] <centaur5> TJ-, I used nm-applet to configure the entire thing under "Wired Connection" same goes for my wireless on my laptop nm-applet under the wireless ssid static settings fully function.
[05:16] <Guest16780> Thanks a lot TJ-
[05:16] <Guest16780> :)
[05:17] <curtis__> PLEASE HELP
[05:17] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:17] <TJ-> centaur5: right, and did you configure a manual DNS server IP address there?
[05:17] <centaur5> TJ-, yep exact same DNS server on both machines but the desktop doesn't lookup.
[05:17] <curtis__> please...
[05:18] <TJ-> centaur5: first thing is to ensure you've not made a silly typo in the edit box :) 2nd is to review /var/log/syslog where NM reports very verbosely when its configuring an interface.
[05:18] <curtis__> screw this
[05:19] <dengxinjun> this is a book
[05:19] <centaur5> TJ-, triple checked digits and even rebooted with saved settings.  I'll check the logs real quick.
[05:19] <TJ-> centaur5: the way it works is NM controls a private instance of dnsmasq, the caching DNS server, which listens on 127.0.1.1. NM sends the configured DNS server IP address to dnsmasq over DBus when the connection is activated
[05:19] <dengxinjun> I much do it
[05:19] <TJ-> centaur5: check that this is a sym-link: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" should be a pointer to "../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[05:20] <TJ-> centaur5: also, check the content of "/etc/resolv.conf" - the target file should contain "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[05:21] <centaur5> TJ-, no symlink exists and the DNS in resolv is the previous router
[05:22] <dengxinjun> the ubuntu very ..........
[05:22] <TJ-> centaur5: that explains it! Can you check this exists and contains the nameserver line I showed: "cat /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[05:22] <allen> Hello
[05:22] <dengxinjun> hello
[05:22] <wmorri> dengxinjun, hi do you have a question?
[05:23] <TJ-> !cn | dengxinjun if you'd prefer to talk in your own language
[05:23] <allen> 汉字可以吗？
[05:23] <dengxinjun> No.I'm not
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 可以
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我也是中国人
[05:23] <allen> 这个英语有点受不了
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 嘿嘿
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我喜欢英语
[05:23] <TJ-> !english
[05:23] <centaur5> TJ-, yes it does have 127.0.1.1
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我经常在这里练习英语
[05:24] <TJ-> centaur5: OK, the fix should be "sudo ln -sf ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> how did you guys know he had a question in chinese? just curious
[05:24] <OerHeks> guys, english only please
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> based on his nick?
[05:24] <dengxinjun> yes
[05:24] <TJ-> SeriouslyLaugh: I checked his IP address net owner
[05:24] <TJ-> SeriouslyLaugh: "netname:        CHINANET-JX"
[05:24] <allen> 那以后都用英文
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> TJ- oh cool
[05:25] <centaur5> TJ-, Thanks a lot you're a genius.
[05:25] <centaur5> TJ-, Guess one of my release upgrades must have broken that
[05:25] <TJ-> centaur5: it's a common issue where users/scripts forcefully replace that file not knowing it is supposed to be a sym-link
[05:26] <dengxinjun> 美国这个时候应该是睡觉了吧，还有人？
[05:26] <TJ-> all local DNS resolution is done by that private dnsmasq controlled by NM
[05:26] <TJ-> !english | dengxinjun allen
[05:26] <dengxinjun> OK
[05:26] <dengxinjun> english
[05:26] <TJ-> dengxinjun: thank you :)
[05:26] <centaur5> TJ-, Thanks a lot. My knowledge on how nm-applet works was too limited to understand what was going on.
[05:27] <TJ-> centaur5: nm-applet is just a GUI interface to the underlying NM service. You can access/control it manually in a terminal with "nmcli"
[05:27] <allen> 他们比我们快8个小时吧
[05:27] <dengxinjun> Oh
[05:28] <dengxinjun> english only?
[05:28] <centaur5> TJ-, Good to know for future use. Thanks again!
[05:28] <dengxinjun> I'm chinese
[05:28] <TJ-> centaur5: and your 'all-users' interfaces are defined in text files under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[05:29] <wmorri> dengxinjun, if speaking in chinese is easier for you try joining #ubuntu-cn.
[05:29] <TJ-> centaur5: so, if you get into serious problems with no GUI there are a couple of options (nmcli and manual text editor) to fix things up
[05:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> might help to direct him in his own language
[05:31] <allen> so hungry
[05:32] <dengxinjun> I'm hungry ,too
[05:33] <dengxinjun> I like eat....eat
[05:36] <TJ-> !ot | dengxinjun allen
[05:38] <dengxinjun> ok
[05:39] <AndChat406100> Jj
[05:41] <daftykins> !broadcom
[05:41] <guest69__> !broadcom
[05:42] <TJ-> !bcm | guest69__: I think the factoid is
[05:43] <daftykins> it's cool, ubottu just didn't repeat as it was so recent :)
[05:43] <TJ-> hmmm, oh, both work! Teach me to read a bit more
[05:54] <thoughtful_gobli> HI everyone, when i try to install any packages on ubuntu 12.04 I get 'Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages' errors. Does anyone know how to debug/fix this?
[05:54] <thoughtful_gobli> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b4429d3ae69a58809c4b
[05:56] <bencc1> can I su to root when I'm not in the sudoers list?
[05:56] <wmorri> thoughtful_gobli, have you tried running sudo apt-get update recently?
[05:57] <thoughtful_gobli> Yes, ran it just before and it ran without errors, I have also run sudo apt-get upgrade.
[05:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli try running sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli read this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies-after-adding-a-ppa
[05:58] <OerHeks> thoughtful_gobli, you'll need 2 packages in this order:> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[05:58] <thoughtful_gobli> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6d07c062f36d188188a5 < it threw the same error
[05:58] <thoughtful_gobli> ok, reading though that now
[05:59]  * qu 
[06:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli also read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/451364/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu-14-04
[06:01] <thoughtful_gobli> Ok, Thank you. Oh apologies i should have said i am running ubuntu 12.04
[06:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok use this http://askubuntu.com/questions/100278/how-do-i-install-and-mount-an-exfat-partition
[06:05] <AlexQ> Fixed! After some dist-upgrade and installation of linux-generic. One problem remaining: gazziliions of crash messages about a previous kernel still appearing. How to get rid of that?
[06:06] <AlexQ> Probably cashed somewhere
[06:06] <Ben64> pastebin the errors
[06:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ try to post a snippet of the exact errors
[06:07] <spilt_milk> what's up my ubuntoonians?
[06:08] <AlexQ> "System problem detected" appearing, which can't be true as they are all about a package "linux-image..(previous version that was problematic)"... Basically the messages that were appearing before I fixed the problem of missing linux-generic after upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10. So this looks like old messages appearing
[06:08] <jnesselr> spilt_milk: Trying to install ubuntu on an old mac mini. Pulling my hair out. The usual.
[06:08] <thoughtful_gobli> Thanks that was the one I was following. I have made a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list and run the "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean" command but still have the same issue.
[06:08] <dave__> #test
[06:08] <thoughtful_gobli> if i attempt to install sudo apt-get -f install fuse-utils I get a more specific error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/64f16339a4c0c3053fc9
[06:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ run sudo rm /var/crash/*
[06:09] <AlexQ> SeriouslyLaugh: oo, yeah, I've been looking for that, but thought it was inside /var/log
[06:10] <jnesselr> So why does the ubuntu server iso keep trying to check for the cd-rom? It's not running off of a cd-rom.
[06:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli you may have to purge exfat and reinstall using the PPA in the latest link i sent
[06:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> run sudo apt-get purge fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[06:11] <AlexQ> SeriouslyLaugh: Thanks
[06:11] <jnesselr> It's starting to get... irritating.
[06:11] <wmorri> jnesselr, are you talking about when it does a hardware check?
[06:11] <thoughtful_gobli> It looks like they have never been installed: "Package fuse-exfat is not installed, so not removed, Package exfat-utils is not installed, so not removed'
[06:12] <jnesselr> wmorri: When I'm trying to install, yes. I think it's looking for the install media.
[06:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> the run sudo apt-get clean
[06:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:12] <jnesselr> "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again."
[06:13] <jnesselr> But I'm not booting from the CD drive.
[06:14] <jnesselr> And when I try to mount /dev/sdb3 (the disk I put the installer on) onto /cdrom, it tells me that it's an Invalid Argument
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then install the ppa; sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then run sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then run sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ sure thing
[06:15] <baiter> if you are running from cd rom, then you don't need to mount it
[06:15] <wmorri> jnesselr, this seems to be an issue, I am looking for a good solution.
[06:15] <baiter> it's already mounted, hence you can boot from it
[06:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok then just add the PPA above, update, and install that way
[06:15] <jnesselr> baiter: Sure, but this computer no longer has a functioning CD-ROM drive.
[06:15] <TJ-> jnesselr: that suggests the /etc/apt/sources.list has the original DVD/ISO archive entry not commented out
[06:16] <jnesselr> TJ-: What, on the ramdisk that's loaded right now?
[06:16] <baiter> ...
[06:16] <baiter> you are doing some strange stuff
[06:16] <baiter> why don't you just install it like normal people?
[06:16] <TJ-> jnesselr: check /etc/apt/sources.list, see if it has an "deb cdrom: ..." entry
[06:17] <AlexQ> night night'
[06:17] <jnesselr> TJ-: It's a ramdisk. There's literally no /etc/apt folder.
[06:17] <TJ-> jnesselr: otherwise, its another issue, which is the mounting of the LIVE ISO image to /cdrom/
[06:17] <baiter> ... what's a ramdisk?
[06:17] <jnesselr> baiter: It's not my fault I can't burn a CD and try it in this drive.
[06:17] <TJ-> jnesselr: the live env still has all the /etc/ files, its unpacked from a squashfs file system
[06:18] <baiter> you don't need a cd
[06:18] <baiter> to install it
[06:18] <baiter> you can install from usb
[06:18] <wmorri> TJ-, I think i found a solution, but I haven't had this problem so I don't know if it works. http://askubuntu.com/questions/593002/fail-to-install-ubuntu-server-14-04-64bit-lts-from-usb-drive
[06:18] <jnesselr> baiter: Which is where I'm at now.
[06:18] <jnesselr> Which is what's causing this error.
[06:19] <baiter> isn't there an option to install?
[06:19] <TJ-> baiter: the actual device doesn't matter; the hybrid ISO images are designed to work as if they were loaded from a DVD even if they start from a USB hard disk emulation
[06:20] <jnesselr> baiter: Yes. I hit install, go through the normal prompts, set up keyboard, etc. It then fails to detect the CD-ROM for the install media
[06:20] <TJ-> jnesselr: did you try the 'switch USB ports' trick so the device is re-mounted ?
[06:20] <baiter> so can't you skip it?
[06:21] <TJ-> baiter: no; it's a major fault. The ISO image disappears
[06:21] <jnesselr> TJ-: yes
[06:22] <TJ-> I used to see this a lot with SCSI-attached CD/DVD drives on servers. The installer expects them to be on ATA and if libata isn't involved, the device name isn't what the installer expects
[06:22] <jnesselr> I mean good grief, LFS gave me fewer issues than this computer is lol.
[06:23] <bhagath> can explain how to block usb data transfer
[06:24] <latrodectus> bhagath: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/727195-disable-a-enable-usb-from-terminal/
[06:25] <latrodectus> bhagath: also http://www.techrepublic.com/article/disable-usb-ports-to-prevent-unauthorized-data-transfers/
[06:26] <bindi> are there any problems to be expected if I want to dualboot ubuntu with win10 and bitlocker on a fakeraid? :-)
[06:26] <latrodectus> fakeraid?
[06:26] <latrodectus> bindi: so long as you partition your drive correctly i see no problems
[06:27] <bindi> fakeraid is kinda hardware raid but its software raid anyway, you know, motherboard raid
[06:27] <latrodectus> !partition | bindi
[06:27] <bindi> i know how to partition things but last time i installed on a fakeraid gparted showed everything 4 times (i have 4 disks in a raid0) but i got it installed anyway :P
[06:28] <latrodectus> well it probabily didn't register as one disk
[06:28] <OerHeks> usually bitlocker takes the whole drive..
[06:28] <jnesselr> BitLocker can get really weird with ubuntu systems.
[06:28] <bindi> I've shrunk the partition succesfully already
[06:28] <latrodectus> OerHeks: can't you have bitlocker take a partition
[06:29] <bindi> I would think that the free space wouldnt be encrypted.. that would be silly (or would it?)
[06:29] <OerHeks> bindi, one way to find out, boot the iso in live mode and see
[06:30] <latrodectus> bindi: it wouldn't be silly
[06:31] <TJ-> bindi: It depends on the fakeraid, GRUB boot-loader won't be able to use it, but the OS should do via either mdraid or dmraid
[06:31] <latrodectus> so long as you keep your secure shit on your secured drive, i see no problems with not using the full drive
[06:32] <TJ-> bindi: you'll need a separate device for GRUB to boot from
[06:32] <bindi> huh?
[06:32] <bindi> i've installed ubuntu on the same fakeraid before though and it booted
[06:32] <TJ-> bindi: also, 4 drives in RADID-0 is a recipe for disaster
[06:33] <bindi> 14.04 had some trouble with grub installation but i got it with fixboot or something, 15.04 did it on its own
[06:33] <bindi> no other boot devices in the system and it worked :P
[06:33] <bindi> TJ-: they're SSDs
[06:34] <bX> fuck
[06:34] <jnesselr> So just an update, I'm trying something a little weird. I pushed the install media on the internal sata and I'm also pushing it to the external drive. Theoretically, I should be able to mount the iso from one onto the ram disk for the other.
[06:34] <jnesselr> where it's expected the cdrom that is
[06:34] <bX> fuck
[06:34] <TJ-> bindi: that was luck :) ... RAID-0 (striping) means the first disk of the array must NOT store its fakeraid metadata at the beginning of the disk(s), and the partitioning must leave space for GRUB to install its core.img. GRUB will depend on the OROM of the FakeRAID controller for BIOS boot-time services, so it can only start in biosdisk mode, not nativedisk
[06:34] <bX> asu
[06:35] <bX> pejuh ngasu
[06:35] <bX> you stupid
[06:35] <jnesselr> well that was weird.
[06:36] <bindi> TJ-: what was luck exactly? :o
[06:36] <TJ-> bindi: GRUB often cannot find its core.img, or its root file-system, when fakeRAID is involved and its not a simple RAID-1 mirror config
[06:36] <slacking> bX#knapa bro
[06:37] <bindi> TJ-: right
[06:41] <jnesselr> BOOOM BABY THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
[06:43] <jnesselr> So, final solution for those curious: dd the iso to both the internal hard disk on a partion instead of the full disk, so the EFI stuff still plays nice, as well as to a usb disk. Then mount the usb disk to /cdrom through fstab. Profit. Maybe. Still trying to do the install. At least it recognizes the disk at this point.
[07:10] <taavi90> Hello, could someone please test if you are able to ssh to my server? I seem to be having port problems
[07:11] <Ben64> use nmap
[07:17] <stangeland> i am in ~ and i do du -sh * and i get a report saying that a directory called software contains 3.8G. So i enter that directory, and it only have a files...totalling up tp 400M. How can du be off with a factor of 10?
[07:20] <swift110-phone> Hey
[07:22] <latrodectus> strictlyb: you checked the hidden files as well right?
[07:22] <latrodectus> * strangeland
[07:23]  * latrodectus needs to stop useing tab complete for nicks in large channels ;.;
[07:23] <HackerII> use the any-key
[07:30] <ganymede_> latrodectus: It should match by last spoken order.
[07:36] <latrodectus> ganymede_: it should, but idk if it does, i still have a couple of settings to tweak in irssi...
[07:54] <qu> \quit
[07:59] <neoserver_admin> can suggest how to scan windows clinets active ips from ubuntu server
[08:14] <mrbryle> h
[08:18] <eigart> Hi !
[08:18] <eigart> https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ seems to  be down :(
[08:19] <latrodectus> ^checked it's down
[08:19] <auronandace> eigart: this channel only deals with supported releases
[08:20] <eigart> auronandace: okay, anyway the server seems to be up again
[08:20] <eigart> auronandace: thanks !
[08:56] <ubuntu037> Good morning, I have just installed a brand new Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on a server, the machine has 128gb of RAM 2x 300GB Hard Raided SSD's and a 2tb Sata drive on it, Also a e5 1650 v3 CPU. THe machine is currently idling and has been all night but the load avg is 1.04 1.05 1.05. Does anyone have any pointers into what I should look into to determine what's causing this?
[08:57] <TJ-> ubuntu037: Yes. Can you "pastebinit /proc/interrupts" ?
[08:57] <ubuntu037> yeh, one sec
[08:58] <freakyy> omg nice machine ;D
[08:58] <TJ-> ubuntu037: did you also install the hardware enablement stack?
[08:59] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/2qBm4N0s
[08:59] <ubuntu037> sorry it's a little strange formatting... you might need to toggle some options
[08:59] <ubuntu037> ah no I did not, I'll install that one second
[09:00] <Guest63695> hello everybody
[09:00] <bekks> ubuntu037: After booting into your new kernel, you can take a look at powertop
[09:00] <TJ-> !ltse | ubuntu037
[09:01] <ubuntu037> I have just installed it, should I reboot or anything?
[09:01] <bekks> ubuntu037: You need to reboot, yes.
[09:02] <ubuntu037> ok great, one second then!
[09:02] <bekks> BEFORE you do:
[09:02] <ubuntu037> oops!
[09:02] <ubuntu037> to late haha
[09:02] <bekks> You should slow down.
[09:02] <bekks> Because you didnt do what you were told to do: investigate /proc/interrupts
[09:02] <bekks> After rebooting, its pointless to do that.
[09:02] <ubuntu037> I pasted it
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: also, what's the current "uptime" - so I can get an idea of how long it took achieve those totals
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: it's fine; reboot is good, no point diagnosing on an old kernel version
[09:03] <ubuntu037> Uptime was about 4 hours
[09:03] <ubuntu037> 24*
[09:03] <ubuntu037> I installed the system yesterday about this time...
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: right, so the LOC interrupt totals were quite high for that
[09:04] <ubuntu037> what is "LOC"?
[09:04] <TJ-> oh, maybe not so bad then!
[09:04] <TJ-> CPU-local interrupts
[09:04] <ubuntu037> thanks
[09:04] <TJ-> when the LAPIC fires (Local Advanced Programmable Interrupt Timer)
[09:05] <ubuntu037> when the machine boots the load is low, perhaps 0.2
[09:05] <ubuntu037> at first I thought it was top/htop reporting the wrong information or adding 1.00 to the correct number
[09:05] <TJ-> ubuntu037: generally the load average is due to internal kernel waiting, so it doesn't show up in any kind of process or I/O (disk, network) anaylsis.
[09:06] <bekks> Even 0.2 is quite high for an idling machine :)
[09:06] <ubuntu037> this is what I thought, the machine is replacing an older machine with a lesser CPU, no SSD's and Less RAM and that idles at 0.1
[09:06] <ubuntu037> + and it has a little traffic on it
[09:07] <TJ-> ubuntu037: it's not abnormal on a multi-core system like that to see a high load average
[09:07] <bekks> Sounds like the old machine would have been sufficient :)
[09:07] <ocnios> Hello
[09:08] <TJ-> ubuntu037: I've seen quite a few E5-1650s recently with the same
[09:08] <ubuntu037> the strange thing is that we have an identical machine (in terms of hardware) and software stack in our cluster and it's nowhere near this kind of load, even under strain
[09:08] <TJ-> ubuntu037: same mobo/firmware version?
[09:09] <ubuntu037> that I am not sure about unfortunately
[09:09] <ubuntu037> Machine has now rebooted, load is 1.07, htop reports no movement on the 12 CPU's
[09:09] <bekks> ubuntu037: So take a look at powertop.
[09:10] <ubuntu037> 0.7% on a random core every 5(ish) seconds or somehting
[09:10] <TJ-> ubuntu037: differences due to firmware/ACPI can often contribute. once it is booted looking at dmesg ouput you can get the mobo/firmware version with "dmesg | grep DMI:"
[09:10] <TJ-> ubuntu037: is it a HA cluster?
[09:11] <TJ-> ubuntu037: '5ish seconds' sounds like a write-back cache flush
[09:11] <ubuntu037> what am I looking for in `powertop` ?
[09:11] <bekks> ubuntu037: The output :)
[09:12] <ubuntu037> ++ :)
[09:12] <ubuntu037> Summary: 109.3 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 1.4% CPU use
[09:12] <TJ-> ubuntu037: check the idle stats
[09:12] <bekks> ubuntu037: Thats just one line of the output.
[09:12] <ubuntu037> shall I pastebin?
[09:12] <TJ-> ubuntu037: if it is truely idling, the C3 percentage should be over 80%
[09:12] <TJ-> yes please
[09:12] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/JZG9DYB5
[09:13] <ubuntu037> C6-HSW     99.3%
[09:14] <bekks> ubuntu037: C6 with almost 100% is ok.
[09:15] <ubuntu037> this is the "Tunables" tab http://pastebin.com/PE0chfxa
[09:15] <TJ-> ubuntu037: that looks fine, C6 is a deeper sleep state... but that might be the reason, because deeper sleep state == longer latencies
[09:16] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/TeGpHN4G <--- Device Stats tab
[09:16] <bekks> powertop is designed to tell show you whats going on regarding power consumption
[09:17] <TeoD360> hi all
[09:18] <TJ-> ubuntu037: which CPU idle governor is operating?
[09:18] <ubuntu037> Sorry, how do I find that out?
[09:18] <ubuntu037> (I'm a programmer not a kernel guy :/ )
[09:19] <TJ-> ubuntu037: "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[09:20] <ubuntu037> about 10 lines all stating "Performance"
[09:20] <ubuntu037> 12 lines perhaps (make sense for the 12 cores)
[09:21] <ubuntu037> sorry I have to go for a minute, my new born is crying very loudly!
[09:21] <TJ-> ubuntu037: that's correct
[09:23] <ren0v0> ok i've asked this over and over to no response
[09:23] <ren0v0> my software updater keeps telling me there are updates
[09:23] <ren0v0> but i've set it to notify me "never"
[09:24] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, open a terminal: sudo apt-get update  | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:24] <cfhowlett> paste the url here.
[09:25] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, what does repository lists have to do with software updater asking me to update?
[09:25] <ren0v0> i have "automatically check for updates" set to *never*
[09:26] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, this will display exactly what is seeking the update - something that would be helpful to know
[09:26] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, I'd bet/hope you did not disable automatic security upgrades
[09:27] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, wait, so its not possible to turn this off via GUI? (security)
[09:28] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, it IS possible but you are rather guessing at this point.  get the information and then you'll know.  sudo apt-get update ONLY displays what is requesting update.  it downloads/installs nothing
[09:28] <ren0v0> i can see what packages, they are security updates likely right
[09:28] <ren0v0> i want to turn this off
[09:28] <ren0v0> so i'll find out how, thanks
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, you want to turn off SECURITY?  unwise ...
[09:29] <ren0v0> yes
[09:29] <ren0v0> i'm in the terminal 95% of the time so its fine
[09:29] <TJ-> ren0v0: there's a difference between a GUI component notifying you, and actually checking for the updates. It sounds like your problem is the former ?
[09:29] <ren0v0> TJ-, yup
[09:30] <TJ-> ren0v0: which ubuntu release, and which DE (Unity) ?
[09:30] <ren0v0> sound it  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[09:30] <ren0v0> found*
[09:30] <cfhowlett> nicely done!
[09:30] <TJ-> ren0v0: that's for *applying* updates
[09:30] <ren0v0> hmm
[09:31] <ren0v0> well its currently not commented out, and it doesn't "automatically" install, it asks me, so still not the right file?
[09:32] <TJ-> ren0v0: I'd suspect you're getting notifications due to 99update-notifier
[09:32] <AvatarA> huh, unattended does not ask
[09:32] <AvatarA> that's why it's unattended
[09:32] <TJ-> ren0v0: but even then, the GUI will just check the file that script touches, so the GUI component is still the issue
[09:34] <ren0v0> its odd, i've been running 14.04 for ages and recently reinstalled, i dont remember ever getting these popups, ever
[09:35] <AvatarA> getting those popups is default behavior for ubuntu 14
[09:35] <ren0v0> there aren't even any packages to install via cli lol
[09:36] <ren0v0> 2 kept back
[09:36] <ren0v0> ok stuff it, at least i'm on the right track i'll deal with it nother day, thanks
[09:36] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, eh, might want to check that with a simulation: apt-get -s dist-upgrades
[09:37] <cfhowlett> dist-upgrade
[09:38] <TJ-> ren0v0: setting may be somewhere like $HOME/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/%gconf.xml
[09:41] <TJ-> ren0v0: last answer here seems to confirm the 99update-notifier suggestion http://askubuntu.com/questions/218755/how-to-disable-the-update-manager-popup
[09:51] <ubuntu037> sorry about that, seems my son likes to cry A LOT!
[09:54] <ubuntu037> so is it less likely to be software (kernel) and more likely to be a hardware issue?
[09:57] <ubuntu037> Regarding the Mobo / Firmware, they're different on both machines
[10:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: which one is on older firmware?
[10:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: or, do you mean the mobos are different?
[10:06] <rugsey> hey, how do i install a windows .iso on a bootable drive FROM a linux system? i'm a newbie, please help haha
[10:08] <cfhowlett> rugsey, short answer: you don't.  get a windows machine, make your windows USB and install away
[10:08] <cfhowlett> rugsey, for further assistance, ask ##windows
[10:08] <TJ-> rugsey: if the ISO image is hybrid bootable, and you are targeting a USB mass storage device, "dd if=path/to/windows.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=100M conv=fdatasync,fsync"
[10:09] <rugsey> thank you very much....
[10:09] <TJ-> rugsey: if you want to *execute* the windows.iso and whilst it is running, install Windows to a disk device, then use a virtual machine
[10:10] <cfhowlett> this ^^
[10:10] <rafibd01717> ping
[10:10] <rugsey> sweet, thank you
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !test | rafibd01717
[10:10] <rafibd01717> what is the command to install vagrant on Ubuntu 14?
[10:11] <rafibd01717> and install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[10:12] <ubuntu037> TJ- : the new machine is the newer firmware
[10:12] <ubuntu037> I'm just trying to boot into a rescue kernel to see if the loads are the same
[10:14] <bekks> ubuntu037: How does that help in debugging?
[10:14] <autoit> hey guys! i have dual boot setup in my pc.but when i boot into ubuntu my hdd seems to make audible clicking sounds. when i opena folder i can distinctively hear it. but when i boot into windows it disappears. i have checked the smart attributes and they are all good. any help?
[10:15] <rafibd01717> I am using ubuntu 14.04LTS and want to upgrade it to 15.10. How can I upgrade it?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> autoit, audible clicking?  Nope, I wouldn't trust that hardware no matter what smart attributes is telling you.
[10:16] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, 14.04 >> 14.10 >> 15.04 >> 15.10
[10:16] <cfhowlett> or clean install 15.10
[10:16] <bekks> autoit: so show us the smart attributes i a pastebin.
[10:16] <autoit> cfhowlett: it disappears in windows completely
[10:16] <autoit> bekks: one moment
[10:17] <rafibd01717> cfhowlett: you mean I need to upgrade in this looooong way!!!
[10:17] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, you asked how.  I explained both options
[10:17] <bekks> autoit: It disappears in Windows because Windows uses different areas on your disk.
[10:17] <rafibd01717> I dont want to do clean install
[10:17] <rafibd01717> it would require downloading a big iso
[10:17] <bekks> rafibd01717: Then you need to upgrade that long way.
[10:18] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:18] <rafibd01717> very bad
[10:18] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, then you have to do the incremental installs I described.  OR wait for 16.04 :    14.04 will directly upgrade to 16.04
[10:18] <bekks> rafibd01717: And upgrading will require even a lot more downloading.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> and 14.04 IS still supported
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717  bith ways take a long time, choose the easiest, which is fresh install
[10:18] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> both*
[10:19] <rafibd01717> actually not a good way for people from 3rd world countries.
[10:19] <rafibd01717> we pay huge amount for every MB than developed country users
[10:19] <bekks> rafibd01717: 14.04 is supported untile 2019.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, why do you suddenly need to upgrade?  14.04 still works and is still supported
[10:19] <rafibd01717> bekks: good to know
[10:20] <rafibd01717> just wanted be to updated
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717  i live in a 'rich' country and am still using 14.04 too
[10:20] <rafibd01717> actually I don't have any problem with 14
[10:20] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, sudo apt full-upgrade            will get you updated
[10:21] <rafibd01717> what does this command do actually?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, 14.04 >>> 14.04.3
[10:21] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:21] <rafibd01717> thanks
[10:21] <rafibd01717> well anyone know how can i install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, sudo apt install virtualbox
[10:22] <rafibd01717> thanks guy
[10:22] <rafibd01717> from .deb file what should be the command?
[10:23] <rafibd01717> sudo apt-get installl something.deb?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> virtualbox is in the repos.  why are you mucking about with out of repo debs?
[10:24] <rafibd01717> because in this way I can install vbox in my another machine without downloading it again and again.
[10:24] <rafibd01717> as said I need to pay huge amount for every MB
[10:24] <rafibd01717> not talking about GB even in 2015 yet talking about MB
[10:24] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, where did you find this .deb?
[10:25] <rafibd01717> virtualbox.org provides i386.de
[10:25] <rafibd01717> i386.deb
[10:26] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, you have a 386 system?
[10:26] <rafibd01717> I have a 32bit machine
[10:26] <cfhowlett> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:27] <rafibd01717> dpkg means what? and thanks for the help. :)
[10:28] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, in your terminal:   man dpkg                 and read
[10:28] <autoit> these are the smart attributes: http://pastebin.com/DsKZZxJk the drive only makes noise in ubuntu and not in windows.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717  dpkg meand debian package
[10:28] <ashraf> sudo dpkg -i DEB_PACKAGE
[10:29] <ashraf> it's for package installation
[10:29] <rafibd01717> okay
[10:29] <autoit> bekks: i have posted the pastebin
[10:30] <ubuntu037> Ok so the top is still at 1.00 in a rescue kernel so it's probably hardware based?
[10:30] <rafibd01717> to completely remove a package again what should be the command?
[10:31] <ashraf> sudo dpkg -r PACKAGE_NAME
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717  i'm curious, in which country are you
[10:32] <rafibd01717> ashraf bhai bangladeshi naki? :)
[10:32] <ashraf> hmm, :-)
[10:32] <rafibd01717> MonkeyDust: from BD
[10:32] <autoit> cfhowlett: i have posted the smart attributes
[10:33] <cfhowlett> autoit, I'm blind to pastebinit.com because China ...
[10:34] <autoit> anybody else can help? hdd is making noise in ubuntu but not in windows. smart attributes ok
[10:34] <rafibd01717> where should I install .deb packages? In Home? What is the best practice?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> autoit  define noises, which ubuntu version, did it work before etc
[10:36] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, dpkg -i should direct it to its proper location without your intervention
[10:36] <rafibd01717> I see
[10:36] <autoit> ubuntu 14.04 hdd has never failed till now. noise is like... heads are clicking against something... i dont know how to describe it
[10:36] <autoit> like normal read opeartion but louder
[10:37] <autoit> it goes away completely in windows
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> autoit  when did it start, what has changed
[10:38] <rafibd01717> well I am getting errors..
[10:38] <rafibd01717> softeng@softeng:~/virtualbox$ sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-5.0_5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~trusty_i386.deb dpkg: considering removing virtualbox in favour of virtualbox-5.0 ... dpkg: no, cannot proceed with removal of virtualbox (--auto-deconfigure will help):  virtualbox-qt depends on virtualbox (= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5)   virtualbox is to be removed.  dpkg: regarding virtualbox-5.0_5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~trusty_i386.deb containing virtualbox
[10:38] <whothehellami> hi, I am not sure if this issue is hardware related but I don't think so... I have a dual boot system with win and ubuntu 15.04 and grub is starting rly slow and needs about 3 sec for recognising my input. after selecting an entry it is also loading very slow
[10:38] <autoit> since the first time i booted into ubuntu. it has always been like this. earlier i ignored it. but it became irritating. noise levels have not changed since when i first installed ubuntu
[10:39] <TJ-> autoit: that sounds like the drive is resetting. check 'dmesg' for I/O errors.
[10:40] <autoit> there seem to be none.
[10:41] <rafibd01717> I think I need to clean my old virtualbox first right?
[10:41] <rafibd01717> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13392254/
[10:41] <autoit> the sound comes when there is a read/write op. because when i open a folder i can hear it or when i save a file
[10:42] <autoit> MonkeyDust: anything?
[10:43] <rafibd01717> so how can I remove my old virtualbox?
[10:44] <wmorri> rafibd01717, have you tried to use sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox?
[10:44] <rafibd01717> no. trying
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> autoit  is it old hardware, maybe? which windows is on it?
[10:45] <wmorri> whothehellami, does it happen with you choose both ubuntu and windows options?
[10:45] <rafibd01717> wmorri: is this command used to remove all packages installed from remote?
[10:46] <autoit> its win8. hardware is not old 2 years at max. plus there is the fact as soon as i boot into windows it goes away
[10:47] <TJ-> autoit: OK, I think you'll need to use hdparm to set the head-retract timeout, or disable the agressive power management
[10:48] <wmorri> rafibd01717, you can use it to remove all packages that are no longer needed or to remove one package and the dependencies as far a I know.
[10:48] <TJ-> autoit: I've seen these issues occasionally with some drives, not quite sure what triggers it
[10:48] <autoit> i read about setting the power management to 255. but i was afraid it will affect normal drive operation in windows as well
[10:48] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:49] <rafibd01717> wmorri: do I need to restart pc after removing packages?
[10:49] <wmorri> rafibd01717, no.
[10:49] <whothehellami> wmorri, I  need to check this.
[10:49] <wmorri> whothehellami, okay
[10:49] <autoit> will using hdparm not affect drive operations in windows
[10:50] <wmorri> rafibd01717, if you need an exact definition for autoremove just run the command man apt-get and scroll down.
[10:50] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> autoit  ubuntu and windows work independentally, unluss you used wubi
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> unless*
[10:51] <autoit> but the hard disk is same. and i just checked power management seems to be off for my hdd
[10:52] <amburger> is it possible to make compton show shadow only for popup windows, like reverse exclude-shadow setting
[10:53] <whothehellami> wmorri, after selecting windows inside the grub menu I see a screen with the grub colour for about 4-5 sec
[10:53] <whothehellami> wmorri, this should not take that long?
[10:54] <wmorri> whothehellami, not normally it should boot right away.
[10:56] <whothehellami> wmorri. also I am wondering about the time needed before the selected entry moves if I move with the arrow keys the first time
[10:56] <hunterzeroxxx> hello friend
[10:57] <nikolam> I have an user not using Unity desktop. What is alternative desktop search option that one can use and has an GUI for search results (A la Windows Viste/7+ disk search) ?
[10:58] <wmorri> whothehellami, I don't know enough about grub to know the answer to that. I am going to look and see if there is a log file that can help us.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> nikolam, Ms. Cleo has the night off, so you'll have to actually tell what desktop he IS using.
[10:59] <nikolam> Xfce cfhowlett  and ther is catfish but afraid not best solution?
[10:59] <nikolam> also it would need some indexing before search I suppose
[10:59] <hunterzeroxxx> hello i am hunter
[11:00] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <hunterzeroxxx> yes i am ubuntu user
[11:00] <wmorri> whothehellami, what version of ubuntu are you loading into?
[11:01] <hunterzeroxxx> who use gnome here ?
[11:01] <whothehellami> wmorri, 15.04 with 3.19.0-33-generic
[11:01] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, wrong question.  describe YOUR problem on YOUR computer.
[11:01] <amburger> nikolam: google find locate linux ,it's not gui
[11:01] <hunterzeroxxx> ok
[11:01] <wmorri> whothehellami, thank you
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> nikolam  there's something called 'docky' or so, search tool, i'm lookng...
[11:01] <nikolam> amburger, I know find, locate , needs GUI
[11:02] <hunterzeroxxx> i have not a problem in my ubuntu i jut want chat with people
[11:02] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <hunterzeroxxx> ok
[11:03] <dahui> Hi all... i'm getting sometimes problems with my wifi (intel centrino advanced 6235).. sometimes it doesn't connect and then i reboot the OS and starts working again.. I did two sollutions that I find (http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/322-ubuntu-trusty-intel-centrino-6235-slow-freeze and I install this driver https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi) but I just want to know if has any definition on this sollution because it's not 
[11:03] <stefano> salve a tutti
[11:04] <wmorri> cfhowlett, if you have a minute could you help whothehellami? He is having sloow boot times like 3-4 seconds from grub and I am just not finding anything to help him.
[11:04] <stefano> per avere una lista buona di iptv cm si fa
[11:04] <cfhowlett> wmorri, I had an eye on that, but I have not knowledge of his issue.  sorry
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !it | stefano
[11:05] <wmorri> cfhowlett, okay I will keep digging.
[11:05] <stefano> ok grazie
[11:06] <whothehellami> wmorri, what I can see with dmesg is not related to that issue because dmesg shows what happens after grub?
[11:07] <amburger> nikolam: http://linux.die.net/man/1/gnome-search-tool ?
[11:07] <wmorri> whothehellami, yes i beleive so.
[11:12] <wmorri> whothehellami, I would have a look in /var/log/syslog. It will give you a ton of information look for anything to do with grub or booting.
[11:16] <wmorri> dahui,hi have you looked at the wifi touble shooting guide yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:18] <dahui> wmorri: nops.. i never see this link.. i directly search sollution for my problem specific
[11:19] <dahui> what i find is that these new kernels are having problems with this wifi card
[11:19] <dahui> i don't know if this is possible.. becausa sometimes is working (like right now)
[11:21] <wmorri> dahui, if you think that it might be a bug then I would look at reporting a bug. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[11:22] <dahui> wmorri: i was thinking to install a debian distro just to confirme if they are having this problem..
[11:23] <jibon> how can I install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> jibon, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[11:25] <wmorri> dahui, ubuntu is based on debian.
[11:25] <jibon_> hey $sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms line is required to install vbox?
[11:25] <jibon_> sorry I got dc
[11:26] <jibon_> aaa
[11:27] <rugsey> where can i download a clean windows 7 iso? mine isn't working for some reason, says it is preactivated
[11:27] <bekks> rugsey: Ask the Microsoft sales support.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> rugsey  ##windows
[11:28] <bekks> rugsey: This is the totally wrong place for it.
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> rugsey  type    /j ##windows
[11:28] <jibon_> bekks: can you remember me?
[11:28] <bekks> jibon_: Sure.
[11:28] <rugsey> i'm installing it on virtualbox
[11:28] <jibon_> I am asking to know vbox installation on Ubuntu
[11:28] <bekks> rugsey: Doesnt matter.
[11:28] <bekks> jibon_: You have been told twice already.
[11:29] <jibon_> bekks: I got a dc
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> what's a dc
[11:29] <jibon_> can you please copy paste the lines?
[11:29] <jibon_> disconnected
[11:29] <bekks> jibon_: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[11:30] <jibon_> ok from where you usually download boxes?
[11:30] <bekks> From nowhere. You install them yourself.
[11:30] <jibon_> I want to install centos server and a mac latest os
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> jibon_  stop
[11:30] <bekks> jibon_: So do it.
[11:31] <bekks> jibon_: Do you own Apple hardware?
[11:31] <jibon_> no
[11:31] <jibon_> will it not run on a hp machine?
[11:31] <bekks> jibon_: It is illegal then.
[11:32] <jibon_> hm
[11:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, I don't know if this is a problem but inside syslog one of the first lines is "ureadahead[213]: ureadahead:/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-352_hybrid.conf: file or directory not found"
[11:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, but I purged nvidia* some time ago
[11:33] <Sohron> hello fellow ubuntuites :p
[11:33] <wmorri> whothehellami, are you still using the nvidia card?
[11:34] <Sohron> is anyone here having playback problems with spotify-client?
[11:34] <Sohron> like a song in the middle of a playlist seemingly randomly just won't start to play...
[11:35] <Sohron> play/pause doesn't help at least
[11:35] <quest9> hi
[11:36] <Sohron> i know the linux version is just a preview, but still
[11:36] <whothehellami> wmorri, no drivers are installed so I don't think so. I wanted to install one but after that I got a black screen after rebooting so I've purged the nvidia stuff.
[11:37] <Sohron> whothehellami: can you get to single-user mode with nvidia drivers installed? if so i have fixed some nvidia issues by reinstalling the drivers...
[11:37] <whothehellami> wmorri, as far as I can remember I had this grub problem after a fresh installation of ubuntu (and windows)
[11:38] <whothehellami> Sohron, sry I don't know what exactly u mean with "single-user mode with nvidia drivers installed"
[11:39] <wmorri> Sohron, I think that you answered your own question saying that it is a preview. things will break.
[11:40] <Sohron> wmorri: yeps
[11:40] <CronX3r> d
[11:40] <jibon_> hm
[11:40] <Sohron> whothehellami: you can boot to single user by editing the grub commandline before boot
[11:41] <Sohron> whothehellami: it's a non-graphical root shell
[11:42] <Sohron> whothehellami: so proprietary nvidia drivers won't be in the way, at least i've had it working
[11:43] <whothehellami> Sohron, stopping the X server is not sufficient?
[11:44] <wmorri> Sohron, so i have been trying to help whothehellami with his really slow load times out of grub. He wasn't sure if the nvidia message might have something to do with it. I just wanted to get you up to speed.
[11:44] <Sohron> whothehellami: i've had no luck doing anything when nvidia drivers are making trouble and booting to X
[11:45] <Sohron> wmorri: ah so, okay
[11:45] <Sohron> whothehellami: i don't think grub knows anything about nvidia drivers
[11:46] <whothehellami> Sohron, yes I think the nvidia driver problem has nothing to do with the loading time after selecting something inside grub. especially if this is also happening if I want to start windows
[11:47] <Sohron> indeed whothehellami
[11:48] <rgautam98> When i reboot my pc, it tells me that there is an error in the / directory in the tmp directory. Can anybody tell me what this is.
[11:48] <Sohron> rgautam98: what is the error message actually?
[11:49] <rgautam98> It says that there is an in the / directory
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> rgautam98  the exact error message can help find a solution
[11:50] <rgautam98> And when i hit f it says there is an error in /tmp directory
[11:50] <rgautam98> Thats all it said
[11:50] <Sohron> hmmm...
[11:50] <rgautam98> Now my pc is taking a long time to boot
[11:50] <Sohron> rgautam98: is /tmp a separate partition?
[11:50] <rgautam98> No
[11:51] <wmorri> rgautam98, a long time like 30 seconds or 5 minutes?
[11:51] <Sohron> well, i've not met this problem rgautam98 and the error message is very vague :(
[11:51] <rgautam98> I have restarted it
[11:51] <rgautam98> The pc
[11:52] <wmorri> okay rgautam98
[11:52] <rgautam98> It is checking for errors now
[11:53] <wmorri> whothehellami, to get back to your issue, I would keep looking for anything that has to do with grub or booting in syslog.
[11:54] <fsociety[00]dat> hi #ubuntu :) is it possible to export system-wide font setting from an other Ubuntu based distro and use it for other distros? ( for Xubuntu example )
[11:54] <wmorri> fsociety[00]dat, you want to use the ubuntu font on Xubuntu?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, you can install fonts to buntu distros
[11:55] <fsociety[00]dat> wmorri: no, I want to use Trisquel GNU/Linux system-wide font setting for Xubuntu.
[11:55] <rgautam98> It is working fine now
[11:56] <rgautam98> Even i find the error a little vague
[11:56] <rgautam98> But thank you for your support
[11:56] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: to install is not important for me. settings are important.
[11:56] <TJ-> whothehellami: the best way to debug that is to first identify if the issue is with GRUB loading the vmlinuz and initrd.img kernel files into memory, or if the issue is caused whilst the kernel is initialising, or the initrd.img scripts are running.
[11:56] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, install the font.  edit your settings.  done.
[11:57] <TJ-> whothehellami: to do that, edit the kernel command-line in GRUB and remove any "quiet splash" and add "debug" so the kernel provides lots of feedback on the console.
[11:59] <whothehellami> TJ-, ok I'll do that
[12:00] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: if I do this manually screen font qualities and sizes not seem same. I have small netbook screen and especially firefox fonts are the best I have ever seen in Trisquel GNU/Linux .
[12:00] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, so install those fonts ...
[12:00] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:01] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, but pretty sure yo can't install settings from a foreign distro
[12:02] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: Trisquel GNU/Linux is Ubuntu based and FSF supported distro, you know.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, true ...
[12:05] <ola42> hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 LTS based LXLE and I'm unable to hibernate it with sudo pm-hibernate can anyone help ??
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !lxle | ola42, nope
[12:24] <taavi90> Hello. My screen goes off after i lock my computer..how can i set it to stay on permamently?
[12:26] <loa> taavi90, change this it setting, where power managment i think.
[12:26] <taavi90> loa : it doesnt help.
[12:26] <wmorri> taavi90, I think you can change that in the brightness & lock.
[12:27] <loa> strange.
[12:27] <taavi90> wmorri : yeah, i tried that too. It doesnt help
[12:27] <taavi90> I googled and found various of options
[12:27] <taavi90> Still nothing
[12:27] <taavi90> I´m on 14.04
[12:28] <whothehellami> TJ-, wmorri, I've added 'debug' and removed 'quiet spalsh'. I think that the IBM TrackPoint needs some time...
[12:28] <wmorri> taavi90, if you set your screen to never turn off, and your lock to say 5 minutes that doesn't work.
[12:29] <loa> taavi90, https://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[12:29] <loa> ah i missed again.
[12:29] <taavi90> I dont have laptop...i have PC
[12:30] <rgautam98> taavi90: you can do it in the following way
[12:30] <rgautam98> go to system settings
[12:30] <wmorri> whothehellami, you have moved beyond my skill level.
[12:30] <rgautam98> go to brightness and lock
[12:31] <taavi90> rgautam98 : yes..
[12:31] <rgautam98> in the tab "Turn screen off when inactive for"
[12:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, ok. anyway thanks for helping
[12:32] <rgautam98> put it to never
[12:32] <taavi90> rgautam98 : i do have it on never
[12:33] <rgautam98> tavi90: and still the screen turns off ?
[12:33] <wmorri> whothehellami, wait for TJ- or MonkeyDust and they might have more information than I. Hope you figure it out.
[12:37] <TJ-> whothehellami: was there a long pause during kernel start-up then?
[12:38] <whothehellami> TJ-, is there a way to step through the start-up process?
[12:38] <TJ-> whothehellami: not easily, no. When the kernel is discovering hardware that's all automatic.
[12:39] <taavi90> rgautam98 : yes
[12:39] <taavi90> rgautam98 : it doesnt work
[12:39] <whothehellami> TJ-, after changing to debug and booting. I think what took longest was the TrackPoint thing. I'll copy related dmesg output..
[12:39] <taavi90> after i lock my screen it immedinately starts to fade
[12:40] <TJ-> whothehellami: the kernel initialises the hardware, then executes the /init shell script in the initialramfs (initrd.img file) which ensures the root file-system is available and mounted, and then it pivots to the root file-system and executes the /sbin/init as process ID 1, which brings the system up fully
[12:45] <theptr> hi someone who nows how to make the icons on ubuntu desktop 14.04 by default smaller ? i found some guides but non of them work
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> theptr  you can do it in dconf-editor
[12:51] <whothehellami> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/PCJ6qCXG with quiet spalsh I see a 'violet' screen after selecting an entry also after selecting windows. I can see this screen for a few seconds before login screen appears or windows loading screen what made me thought that this is not as it should be. with 'debug' it seems like the TrackPoint causes that issue because this takes some seconds before I can login
[12:57] <nonamae> Hi! Is there an alternate version of 15.10. If there is I cannot find it. I am trying to do a software raid install, and the howto says I will need ubuntu alternate for that. Maybe I should go with the server version? Thanx!
[12:57] <nonamae> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> theptr  in dconf-editor, try   org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view
[12:57] <whothehellami> TJ-, should I see a screen with grub colour after selecting windows? I am not sure any more if this an issue at all but I am used to use a faster grub with less delay
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !alternate | nonamae
[12:59] <swengin> I'm running a long running process(import script) in a remote machine that might take days to be completed is there a way to have it running without it being interrupted by my network connection?
[12:59] <swengin> I'm doing that using ssh it's an ec2 instance
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> swengin  sounds like a 'ssh keepalive' issue
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> swengin  also consider using 'screen'... the process would continue even after ssh was disconnected
[13:01] <swengin> MonkeyDust ok thank you so much
[13:01] <apb__> Having a problem with wine, can't install sketchup.
[13:02] <apb__> https://pastee.org/25f64
[13:02] <apb__> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:03] <whothehellami> swengin, MonkeyDust, mby 'nohup cmd &' ?
[13:04] <soupnanodesukar> apb__: change your reported windows version with wincfg
[13:04] <soupnanodesukar> *winecfg
[13:07] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do?
[13:07] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do now?
[13:07] <apb__> soupnanodesukar: thanks!!
[13:07] <shan> hi
[13:07] <dengxinjun> hi
[13:08] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do now?
[13:08] <shan> may ask a question for IRC server?
[13:08] <dengxinjun> Yes
[13:08] <dengxinjun> I'm ask a question
[13:08] <shan> i have some prob .. when i try connect to my server ,, it show connection refused?
[13:09] <shan> how to solve this problem?
[13:09] <bekks> shan: are you using ubuntu?
[13:09] <shan> yup
[13:09] <bekks> shan: and how are you trying to connect to "your server"?
[13:09] <dengxinjun> much
[13:10] <shan> i'm create my new IRC and configure it using irc-hybrid and anope
[13:10] <dengxinjun> Oh
[13:11] <bekks> shan: What do you mean by "I'm create my new IRC"?
[13:11] <rory> shan: Can you please run the command: "netstat -tulpn" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:11] <rory> shan: then share the URL in this channel
[13:11] <shan> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/irc-server-with-ircd-hybrid-and-anope-on-ubuntu-15-04/#step-installation-of-the-required-dependencies
[13:11] <rory> shan: run this command on the server
[13:11] <shan> i follow this tutorial
[13:14] <rory> shan: you can copy text from a terminal with ctrl-shift-c
[13:14] <rory> shan: or you can do it all in one with this command, which will give you a URL to share in this channel: netstat -tulpn | nc rory.sh 9999
[13:15] <andrea_> hello
[13:16] <shan> i'll try
[13:17] <Li> I even install winusb to create bootable windows usb but it's not working here is the errors I'm http://imgur.com/edit
[13:18] <rory> Li: try again with that picture
[13:18] <rory> Li: that url isn't quite right
[13:19] <vi2nano> dd has always worked fine for me
[13:19] <pukapy>  /msg NickServ identify 118932
[13:19] <Li> rory: http://imgur.com/ZAIaEVf
[13:19] <pukapy> hiii
[13:19] <rory> awkward
[13:19] <pukapy> what have i done
[13:20] <Li> vi2nano: I spend the whole day with dd trying to make windows 7 or 8 bootable usb
[13:20] <rory> Li: run it as root
[13:20] <Li> tried all possible combination which I'm already used to do before!!!
[13:20] <rory> Li: it says "permission denied"
[13:20] <Li> rory: I do everything with sudo
[13:21] <vi2nano> Don't run it as root. just chown the dir
[13:21] <Li> what dir? I was refereing to using sudo dd
[13:21] <Li> and the same with sudo winusb
[13:22] <rory> Li: This answer seems to be related to your issue http://askubuntu.com/a/539803
[13:22] <Li> it gives me all the crap about read-only crap
[13:23] <Li> rory: I read that already but not solving the problem in here
[13:23] <vi2nano> Still should be able to unmount the drive and remount as read/write
[13:23] <rory> Li: I don't fully understand that picture. Are you trying to install to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc ?
[13:24] <rory> Li: It seems to be contradictory
[13:24] <Li> both are usb sticks and I tried on both of them
[13:24] <Li> both are newly formated with cfdisk
[13:24] <rory> Li: have you tried with unetbootin? Has always worked for me http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[13:26] <apb__> Failed to load DLL C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2015\ThumbsUp.dll   Ubuntu 14.04 LTS... wine
[13:26] <loupe> hello
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> apb__  #winehq (or ##winehq)
[13:26] <cfhowlett> apb__, for help with installing wine and/or programs to wine, go to their support
[13:27] <apb__> sorry... pasted to wrong channel :/
[13:27] <loupe> my macbook pro went to sleep and i couldn't set it back to normal after pressing a key
[13:27] <loupe> anyone the same issue?
[13:27] <deviloper> hey can anybody tell me the proper channel for ubuntu-touch queries?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !touch | deviloper
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> loupe  this is ubuntu support, sure you want to be here?
[13:28] <deviloper> cfhowlett: thanks :)
[13:28] <MrKeuner> hi, using LTS I have to enter my private key pass each time I need to use my key. How can I have my system ask it only once each login?
[13:28] <Li> rory: I tried but it doesn't recognize the usb drive
[13:29] <Li> s
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  what's the difference between a key and a private key?
[13:29] <rory> Li: so you (a) formatted as ntfs, (b) selected the "show all drives" option in UNetbootin ?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  key to do or use what?
[13:31] <MrKeuner> key is private key
[13:32] <vi2nano> I could never get Unetbootin to work properly for me so I've learned to live without it
[13:32] <MrKeuner> for instance I have my remote server do rsa key authentication and if I login 5 times, I am asked for rsa key pass 5 times
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  you mean ssh?
[13:33] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, yes
[13:33] <vi2nano> bootable iso's generally have their own bootloader in the image so you shouldn't need to install grub or other bootloader with one of those tools.
[13:33] <vi2nano> You can just unmount the drive and remount with the -w option and dd the file to the drive
[13:34] <Li> are there any images upload sites than this imgur?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  i guess you have to enter your password for sudo and then the remote password... an rsa key should make you able to login over ssh without ssh-key
[13:35] <Li> rory: yes .. unetbootin doesn't display any connected usb drives
[13:35] <Li> rory: even though they are appearing in the file browser normally
[13:36] <Li> rory: check this screenshot http://prntscr.com/958pvt
[13:36] <TJ-> MrKeuner: sounds like you need yo have ssh-agent running
[13:37] <Li> if choose type hard drive then the drive combobox is enabled .. otherwise disabled
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-RSA-Key-for-SSH-Authentication-38599.shtml
[13:37] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I think so, do I change some /etc file to run bash that way each time?
[13:37] <TJ-> MrKeuner: A regular install should enable ssh-agent for the log-in session automatically
[13:38] <MrKeuner> TJ-, are you on LTS?
[13:38] <TJ-> MrKeuner: you may need to call ssh-add once to cache the private key's pass-phrase
[13:38] <vi2nano> Li: have to tried to just unmount and remount with the -w option
[13:38] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I'm using 15.10 and 14.04 here
[13:39] <MrKeuner> oh, you mean regular ssh-agent install or, regular LTS install?
[13:39] <TJ-> MrKeuner: as in any Ubuntu install should install, and enable, ssh-agent for log-in sessions, whether at a console or via a display manager X session
[13:40] <TJ-> MrKeuner: check if its running to begin with: "pgrep ssh-agent"
[13:40] <Li> vi2nano: no
[13:40] <Li> vi2nano: I mounted with remount,rw
[13:41] <vi2nano> Li: I would try to umount and mkdir like /mnt/usbdrive and mount -w /dev/sdc
[13:42] <vi2nano> Li: mkdir as user not as sudo
[13:42] <MrKeuner> TJ-, this is a clean LTS install and not an upgrade from earlier version. pgrep ssh-agent returns null
[13:42] <TJ-> MrKeuner: hmmm, is it a server or desktop install?
[13:42] <MrKeuner> may there was an error I may have missed in install logs? This is a desktop install
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> bbl
[13:44] <MrKeuner> what if apt-get reinstall ssh-agent? which package is that? openssh-client?
[13:44] <AbuDhar> can I remove the  zeitgeist-datahub safely?
[13:44] <AbuDhar> I don't need Unity btw.
[13:44] <TJ-> MrKeuner: The X session should execute /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: if in doubt, you can do sudo apt-get -s remove zeitgeist-datahub
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: the -s is for "simulate"
[13:45] <AbuDhar> oh let me try that.
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: It will show you what would be done. You can pastebin it here and we can double-check
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: ssh-agent is part of ssh-client, along with ssh itself
[13:45] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I have such a file but it seems like it is 644
[13:45] <AbuDhar> Remv zeitgeist [0.9.14-0ubuntu4.1]
[13:45] <MrKeuner> so not executable...
[13:45] <AbuDhar> Remv zeitgeist-datahub [0.9.14-0ubuntu4.1]
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: that's fine
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: read the file - it is sourced not executed
[13:46] <rory> AbuDhar: Sounds like you're fine then, it's not going to remove 1000 other packages along with it :)
[13:46] <AbuDhar> hehe fine.
[13:46] <TJ-> MrKeuner: Are you starting the X server manually, or letting the lightdm display manager handle it?
[13:47] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I am not starting it manually. Default disp manager does that but I use gnomeshell
[13:47] <MrKeuner> can that be the reason?
[13:47] <Li> vi2nano: it doesn't allow me to mkdir into /mnt as a user
[13:47] <Li> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘usb’: Permission denied
[13:47] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I wouldn't have thought so, since it is supposed to be started by the Xsession facility, and as far as I am aware, gnome-shell wouldn't avoid that
[13:48] <MrKeuner> actually there is another papercut I noticed with this install. I wonder if they are related. waking up from sleep system wakes up unlocked...
[13:48] <TJ-> MrKeuner: maybe it does though; maybe there is some environment variable that is read by that 90x11-common_ssh-agent script that prevents it starting
[13:49] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I think the key part is "if has_option use-ssh-agent; then" ... "use-ssh-agent" being the operative bit
[13:50] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I find that via grep: "/etc/X11/Xsession.options:8:use-ssh-agent"
[13:52] <vi2nano> Li: Make it somewhere else then. Doesn't matter where as long as you know where it is.
[13:52] <vi2nano> I suppose it wouldn't matter as you'll have to mount as root
[13:52] <vi2nano> you could probably mkdir as root and have it work find
[13:52] <TJ-> MrKeuner: is there any record of it running in the environment: "env | grep SSH_AGENT_PID"
[13:53] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I found the line you mentioned but it is not commented out or something
[13:53] <MrKeuner> env | grep SSH_AGENT_PID returns null
[13:53] <TJ-> MrKeuner: OK, so its not that it started and exited early then, it just hasn't started
[13:54] <rory> I have a bunch of files called page1.jpg, page2.jpg ... page60.jpg. When I do stuff in bash with them using *, it iterates in alphabetical order (1, 10, 11, etc)
[13:54] <TJ-> MrKeuner: which suggests that Xsession isn't being used for some reason
[13:54] <rory> How can I get bash to enumerate * in NUMERICAL order?
[13:54] <TJ-> rory: pre-sort the list
[13:55] <rory> in this case I'm trying to do "convert *.jpg out.pdf"
[13:55] <rory> How would I pre-sort it in this case?
[13:55] <vi2nano> rory: are they all the same filename besides the number?
[13:55] <rory> oh ls
[13:55] <rory> yes vi2nano
[13:56] <vi2nano> page*.jpg
[13:56] <MrKeuner> TJ-, How can I check if it is used? pgrep -i xsession?
[13:56] <Li> Do you now what is this error I get "sudo: unable to resolve host myUserName"
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: same deal
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: I need to to be in numerical order not alphabetical
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: in alphabetical order, it goes 1, 10, 11, 12... 2, 20, 21...
[13:56] <TJ-> MrKeuner: no, Xsession just calls scripts to configure the session
[13:58] <TJ-> MrKeuner: do you have "/usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop" ?
[13:59] <MrKeuner> I do
[13:59] <vi2nano> rory: try 'ls -v'
[13:59] <TJ-> MrKeuner: looking at the packages, gnome-shell depends on gnome-session, which installs that file, which I *think* is what allows gnome to be listed on the greeter screen
[13:59] <EriC^^> rory: convert $(for i in {1..9}; do echo page$i.jpg; for j in {0..9}; do echo page$i$j.jpg; done; done) out.pdf
[13:59] <TJ-> MrKeuner: what does the file contain? can you pastebin it?
[13:59] <MrKeuner> sure, just a sec please
[13:59] <EriC^^> something like that could work
[13:59] <Li> vi2nano .. rory : unetbootin is working now and able to see the usb
[14:00] <rory> yeah EriC^^ I was gradually converging on that one, you've saved me some time, thanks
[14:00] <Li> the problem was due to ntfs partition .. unetbootin requires fat32
[14:00] <Li> thank you guys
[14:00] <EriC^^> rory: np
[14:00] <MrKeuner> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/AsruAiEE
[14:03] <TJ-> MrKeuner: the only thing I can think is to look for clues in logs. The only ones that may have something will be under /var/log/lightdm/ I think, or possibly in $HOME/.xsession-errors
[14:04] <TJ-> MrKeuner: If this is a vanilla install, with no additional PPA/manually installed packages, and no custom configuration, then I'm at a loss as to why the Xsession isn't seeming to use the ssh-agent
[14:06] <MrKeuner> TJ-, thank you so much. I'll check and let you know if I find out
[14:07] <TJ-> MrKeuner: something you could do. Add the line "echo 'starting ssh-agent' >> /tmp/ssh-agent.log" to the top of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent then try another log-in. If that log file isn't created you know that script isn't executed. If the log-file appears, but ssh-agent isn't running, you know the "if has_option use-ssh-agent ..." isn't triggered
[14:12] <icemac> Hi
[14:12] <icemac> Yo
[14:14] <icemac> Slow
[14:15] <icemac> Slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[14:15] <icemac> G
[14:15] <icemac> O
[14:15] <icemac> H
[14:15] <icemac> O
[14:15] <OerHeks> too fast ..
[14:17] <HackerII> lol
[14:18] <HackerII> smoookin
[14:23] <wylex> A
[14:31] <nonamae> Ok I made a stripped volume on two SSDs on lvm2, but I am not sure it is now faster or not. Not sure how to test. Wit ' dd if=/dev/urandom of=testfileR bs=4k count=10000; sync;' the speed is the same 7,8 MB/s. With hdparm the Timing cached reads: is about the same 4257.12 MB/sec, but the Timing buffered disk reads is much faster on the lvm. sda:470  lvm:870 MB/sec
[14:32] <nonamae> So will it be faster like this?
[14:33] <nonamae> http://pastebin.com/LyEafJeB Here is how I was doing it
[14:42] <bekks> nonamae: And whats the actual issue in one sentence?
[14:42] <bekks> nonamae: using your bs and count values, it implies (for a sane benchmark), that you have 40000k RAM only.
[14:44] <zidsal> would anyone mind giving me a hand on getting a broadcom wireless card working? I try installing bcmwl-kernel-source however the command line gets stuck on DKMS: install complete
[14:46] <BluesKaj> zidsal, install dkms
[14:46] <nonamae> bekks, issue is that I am not sure that now it is faster
[14:46] <motaka2> hello, I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but running sudo update-manager -d doesnt show the upgrade button in opening window
[14:47] <nonamae> bekks, if I made it right
[14:47] <bekks> nonamae: First, you have to benchmark your disks, not your RAM, as you did.
[14:47] <nonamae> now I am testing with dd if=/dev/zero of=./largefile bs=64k count=100000 and the result is 6553600000 bytes (6,6 GB) copied, 7,2175 s, 908 MB/s
[14:47] <zidsal> BluesKaj I already have dkms should I reinstall it?
[14:48] <bekks> nonamae: why are you changing bs now?
[14:48] <nonamae> against 3276800000 bytes (3,3 GB) copied, 7,82616 s, 419 MB/s so I thing I can be happy now :)
[14:48] <bekks> nonamae: you are comparing cars and apple trees.
[14:48] <BluesKaj> zidsal, no need to reinstall, which broadcom chip ?
[14:49] <nonamae> bekks, I dont know what I am doing then
[14:49] <zidsal> finding out now BluesKaj
[14:49] <bekks> nonamae: Yeah, I told you what to do :)
[14:50] <bekks> nonamae: use bs=4k and a count value that will result in a total data about 2x of your RAM.
[14:50] <nonamae> bekks, ok
[14:50] <bekks> nonamae: That will give you comparable results actually.
[14:53] <zidsal> BluesKaj I can't seem to see what model it is from doing lshw -C network
[14:55] <BluesKaj> zidsal, try lspci
[14:57] <nitesh_> hi
[14:57] <motaka2> hello, I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but running sudo update-manager -d doesnt show the upgrade button in opening windo
[14:58] <cfhowlett> motaka2, use the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:59] <motaka2> cfhowlett: wouldnt I get in trouble using that ?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> motaka2, same same as your gui, just not as pretty
[14:59] <nonamae> bekks, 8,2 GB copied (my ram is 4GB)   lvm: 660 504 318 495 321 476 317 MB/s   against sda: 353 313 290 312 MB/s
[15:00] <motaka2> cfhowlett: what does failed to download repository information means?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> motaka2, could be your mirror is offline
[15:01] <nonamae> bekks, results in lvm are very diverse, but seams to be faster anyway
[15:01] <nitesh_> i have installed 14.04
[15:01] <nitesh_> my wifi connection keeps on breaking
[15:03] <nonamae> bekks, ok reading speed is 1,0 GB/s vs 531 MB/s
[15:03] <nonamae> I am happpy :)
[15:03] <nonamae> thx all
[15:04] <monod> hello! I have 2 hard disks and I'd like to do a dual boot, windows + linux
[15:04] <monod> will I have troubles with mbr and boot up?
[15:04] <monod> will it work?
[15:05] <motaka2> cfhowlett: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7149639b7002227c8671
[15:05] <monod> google is my friend, tho
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> monod: that should be fine.
[15:05] <monod> with no particular effort? SchrodingersScat
[15:05] <monod> I mean, no special things to do during the setup?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> motaka2, I can't see gist - china firewall blocks it.  paste.ubuntu.co   works
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> monod: you'll have to select what you want where if you want linux on one drive and windows on the other.
[15:07] <monod> and what about the MBR being on one drive rather than the other or both?
[15:07] <monod> SchrodingersScat, will grub be correctly configured for this setup?
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> monod: right, depends on your setup and what you're planning.  You can tell it what location to put that on install.
[15:08] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396549/
[15:08] <monod> somebody suggests to use the Quick boot feature from the BIOS at startup, SchrodingersScat, to select which disk to boot from
[15:08] <monod> :D
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | motaka2,
[15:10] <monod> seems like update-grub or grub2-mkconfig should work in my case
[15:10] <monod> from what I read on google
[15:10] <monod> I'mma try!
[15:10] <monod> Cya!
[15:10] <motaka2> cfhowlett: is running now thank you
[15:10] <cfhowlett> motaka2, :)
[15:11] <motaka2> cfhowlett: 100% [Waiting for headers]
[15:12] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396605/
[15:13] <cfhowlett> motaka2, yep, you've got a all those exotic packages in your system.  disable them for now.
[15:13] <motaka2> cfhowlett: how?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list            then go to each of the error lines mentioned and put ## at the beginning of the line.  close, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:15] <SlashArash> hi i have a problem
[15:15] <SlashArash> when i try to install samba in ubuntu 15.10 it return an error
[15:15] <SlashArash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396628/
[15:16] <SlashArash> what should i do?
[15:17] <SchrodingersScat> !info samba
[15:19] <MrCeeIII> hello all anyone know of a good software package to convert .wmv to mp4?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, avconv
[15:19] <cfhowlett> it's in the libav-tools package
[15:20] <bindi> why not ffmpeg?
[15:21] <SchrodingersScat> practically the same difference
[15:21] <TJ-> depends which release you're using; we've moved back to ffmpeg
[15:21] <cfhowlett> bindi, has ffmpeg returned to the repos yet?  if so, yes.  if not, avconv is the (temporary) replacement
[15:22] <MrCeeIII> i cant get audio from my wmv files
[15:22] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, open in audacity, it'll pull the audio
[15:22] <MrCeeIII> is it in the the Ubunto software center? avconv
[15:23] <motaka2> cfhowlett: none of them are there
[15:23] <MrCeeIII> its a video file that has no sound
[15:23] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, libav-tools
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> wouldn't that explain why you can't get audio from them?
[15:23] <MrCeeIII> I tried it in audacity and nothings
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info libav-tools
[15:23] <cfhowlett> motaka2, ok, now sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:24] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, what version of ubuntu?
[15:24] <MrCeeIII> 14.04
[15:24] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, sudo apt install libav-tools
[15:25] <motaka2> cfhowlett: still some warnings
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zidsal, sorry my network went down for a few mins
[15:25] <TJ-> !info mediainfo | MrCeeIII this should tell you if there are audio streams in the container
[15:26] <MrCeeIII> i just sudo get-apt installed now what do i do
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: avconv -i inputfile.wmv outputfile.mp4
[15:27] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> may need flags like -strict something something, if it gives a warning
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> -strict-experimental?
[15:28] <nitish> How can I install kompozer?
[15:29] <nitish> who can I unintall an application completly using perge?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> nitish, sudo apt-get purge applicationname
[15:30] <nitish> cfhowlett: should i use sudo apt-get remove appname before purge?
[15:31] <SlashArash> can someone help me? i get an error when try to install samba! what u to guess? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396628/
[15:31] <cfhowlett> nitish, nope.  remove will remove the app, leave the .config  .  purge should remove all trace of the app and configs
[15:31] <_gryf> hi
[15:32] <SchrodingersScat> SlashArash: and you've updated your sources? sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install samba #?
[15:32] <MrCeeIII> ubottu: SchrodingersScat:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396892/
[15:32] <_gryf> Is it possible to configure ubuntu 14.04 to suspend on lid close, but only, when the power cord is not plugged in?
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: yep, that's what I mentioned above, so it's avconv -i MOV012.wmv -strict experimental MOV012.mp4
[15:33] <chano> @SlashArash try sudo apt-get update then try to reinstall
[15:34] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, can you direct me to or provide a brief explanation of "strict experimental"?  never seen it before.
[15:34] <nitish> how can I install ubuntu in my mac with dual-boot?
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: all I know is that aac requires it, so when mp4 container has aac audio.
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !mac | nitish
[15:35] <SlashArash> @chano i updated but nothing changed
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: I think ffmpeg has since changed this to '-strict -2'
[15:35] <ioria> SlashArash, apt-cache policy samba ?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, Okay.  thanks.
[15:36] <chano> @SlashArash did you now try to do an install?
[15:36] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396978/
[15:36] <nitish> what is samba?
[15:36] <bittin_> http://i.imgur.com/KiL8VpZ.png WIP
[15:37] <cfhowlett> motaka2, you have to disable those ppas.
[15:37] <motaka2> cfhowlett: they dont exist lemme show you
[15:37] <chano> @SlashArash if that doesn't work try 'sudo apt-get autoremove samba'
[15:37] <cfhowlett> motaka2, do this: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[15:37] <SlashArash> @chano absolutely i did
[15:38] <chano> @SlashArash or try 'sudo apt-get autoremove samba4'
[15:38] <chano> @SlashArash that should clean up what might be there
[15:38] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397003/
[15:39] <SlashArash> i did it to! let me tell you what i didn't do! nothing i tried "autoremove", "-f install", "change source.list", ....
[15:39] <cfhowlett> motaka2, safe to ignore actually.  did you do the full-upgrade??
[15:39] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397018/
[15:40] <motaka2> cfhowlett: what do you mean?
[15:40] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:40] <motaka2> cfhowlett: wrong command
[15:41] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:42] <nitish> I can i search for a word in wordnet?
[15:42] <motaka2> cfhowlett: would that earase all my aps and disk etc?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> motaka2, no.  that will do 14.04 >>> 14.04.3
[15:42] <chano> @SlashArash the other recomendation is to exit out of X - then do the same things again  sometimes the package manager locks your ability to update
[15:42] <MrCeeIII> well converting file did not fix the issue using vlc and still no sound when attempting to view a *.wmv file :(
[15:43] <motaka2> cfhowlett: now I am using 12.04
[15:43] <minasota> I've created a file with nano (rsync-quick-guide) ls -l shows it's there and all permissions are correct. I'm able to open all the other files in the directory except this one. Is is becuase it's name starts with 'rsync'?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> motaka2, 12.04 >>> 12.04.5
[15:43] <MrCeeIII> i believe so
[15:43] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: that's weird...because avconv recognized the audio for Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: wmav2, 32000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 32 kb/s
[15:44] <MrCeeIII> i was using VLC to review the file
[15:44] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, confirmation:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:44] <zykotick9> minasota: what are the permissions?  "ls -l rsync-quick-guide"
[15:44] <MrCeeIII> yeah updates are loaded
[15:45] <MrCeeIII> shall i open with avconv?
[15:45] <MrCeeIII> i would but cant find it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, don't know it isn't working then.  vlc should certainly have found it.
[15:46] <minasota> zykotick9: -rw-rw-r-- 1 aeden:aeden
[15:46] <motaka2> cfhowlett: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[15:46] <motaka2>  'Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140417)'
[15:46] <motaka2> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[15:46] <MrCeeIII> the video plays with no sound and checked the audio setting a bunch of times
[15:46] <cfhowlett> motaka2, disable the cdroms in your sources list.
[15:46] <nitish> can anyone give me the link of donate for the irc?
[15:46] <zykotick9> minasota: so what happens if you "cat rsync-quick-guide"?
[15:47] <minasota> zykotick9: it's strange why it will not open. I tried cat and it doesn't work
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> !donate | nitish
[15:48] <zykotick9> minasota: "doesn't work"? does it give an error?  does "ls -s rsync-quick-guide" show size to the file?
[15:49] <monsune> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:49] <monsune>   proxmox-ve-2.6.32 pve-manager
[15:49] <monsune> what exactly happens to my running openvz machines when i allow that?
[15:49] <monsune> will i be able to remove and install again without breaking them or stopping them?
[15:51] <TJ-> monsune: no, if the packages are removed the services are gone
[15:51] <minasota> zykotick9: That's the problem, I can't use any commands on the file. No autocompletion or anything. So, I can't get file size od the file because even if I type it in with hitting tab, it  acts like it's not there
[15:51] <MrCeeIII> SchrodingersScat:  how do i open avconv
[15:52] <monsune> TJ- that's pretty bad :( i screwed something in there and i need to "reset" all the files in proxmox
[15:52] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, it's a command line tool.  avconv -i filename
[15:52] <monsune> TJ- would you happen to know a solution? i just need to overwrite all the files with default ones from proxmox-ve-2.6.32 and pve-manager
[15:52] <MrCeeIII> oh ok,... well can you think of anything else i can try?
[15:52] <zykotick9> minasota: well good luck, i don't have any other suggestions/guesses...
[15:52] <minasota> zykotick9: I guess I could get the file size with *guide
[15:53] <MrCeeIII> the issue is .wmv files playing without any sound
[15:53] <minasota> zykotick9: ok, thanks for your help
[15:54] <MrCeeIII> plays dvds plaws Wow and music fine...
[15:54] <monsune> is it possible to force apt to reinstall a package when it is installed?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, mplayer filename.wmv
[15:54] <TJ-> minasota: what does "stat rsync-quick-guide" report?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> monsune, sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[15:54] <TJ-> monsune: "apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[15:54] <fatalityfayjin> #177
[15:55] <monsune> cfhowlett, TJ- that looks great.. but will it remove first or just overwrite?
[15:55] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: have you confirmed that the soundtrack has something to play? ie. it plays on other devices?
[15:55] <TJ-> monsune: over-write
[15:55] <cfhowlett> monsune, overwrite.
[15:55] <MrCeeIII> let me try it on my windows machine
[15:55] <monsune> cfhowlett, TJ- so possible that could fix my files in proxmox...
[15:56] <TJ-> monsune: config files won't be replaced unless you add options to force that
[15:56] <monsune> there is some crazy mess with libs or whatever, i can't even use pveversion now
[15:56] <cfhowlett> monsune, I know nothing about proxmox ... sorry
[15:56] <monsune> cfhowlett ok but thank you for the hint with reinstallation
[15:56] <monsune> TJ- i was going to ask about that
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: just going off the info I saw, avconv recognized an audio track within the file, presumably after you used -strict experimental it converted whatever was there to aac, unless there were errors.
[15:57] <monsune> TJ- so it shouldn't touch anything like configs and reset my openvz machines?
[15:57] <monsune> i'm still very worried
[16:04] <g105b_> My laptop has a combined (phone style) 3.5mm audio jack, when I plug my microphone in, it thinks it is headphones... is there a way to switch it to microphone mode?
[16:07] <nitish> Is there an official twitter handle of Mark Shuttleworth?
[16:08] <nitish> g105b_: you can use an external jack.
[16:09] <nitish> Is there any other light-weight browser availble except chromium and firefox?
[16:09] <motaka2> cfhowlett: is it upgrading to 14.04?
[16:10] <nitish> How can I disconnect connected wifi network throught terminal?
[16:11] <TJ-> g105b_: you'd need to use a 4-ring barrel plug wired correctly so that the PC can sense there's a microphone attached
[16:11] <TJ-> nitish: "nmcli con down id <NAME>"
[16:12] <nitish> TJ- how to get name of connected wifi?
[16:12] <TJ-> nitish: "nmcli con show" - look under the NAME column
[16:13] <nitish> TJ- its not showing any network name.
[16:13] <nitish> its showing someting else
[16:13] <nitish> its showing Usage: nmcli connection { COMMAND | help } COMMAND := { list | status | up | down | delete }
[16:13] <nitish> list [id <id> | uuid <id>] status [id <id> | uuid <id> | path <path>] up id <id> | uuid <id> [iface <iface>] [ap <BSSID>] [--nowait] [--timeout <timeout>] down id <id> | uuid <id> delete id <id> | uuid <id>
[16:14] <TJ-> nitish: oh, you have an older version. "nmcli con list"
[16:15] <nitish> TJ-: yes now its showing the names of all network.
[16:15] <monsune> TJ- wow i managed to slightly fix it by installing newest libpve-common-perl
[16:16] <cfhowlett> motaka2, again:  dist-upgrade DOES NOT upgrade to 14.04.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo do-release-upgrade will
[16:16] <monsune> TJ- still get some errors though... how do i know what else libs to upgrade...
[16:18] <nitish> TJ- after enter nmcli con down id <uuid> its showing error: <uuid>
[16:18] <nitish> TJ-: after enter nmcli con down id <uuid> its showing error: unknown connection <uuid>
[16:19] <tachyondecay> I've discovered I'll need to format my HD and reinstall Windows before I dual boot with Ubuntu. I don't have time to do that at the moment, so I'm looking into virtualizing Ubuntu on Windows 10. I'm having trouble finding documentation that isn't about Ubuntu server though.
[16:20] <motaka2> cfedde: what is it doing then?
[16:21] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | motaka2
[16:23] <anglebert> hello everyone. I'm running lubuntu 15.10. I'm trying to change default theme and icons and even default font. I read that I'll I needed to do was create a .themes directory in home folder.
[16:23] <MrCeeIII> still
[16:23] <MrCeeIII> ther
[16:24] <anglebert> But, when I open lxappearance for customize look and feel and go to widget, it only makes a slight change to the windows. Hardly noticeable. This theme I downloaded is gtk-2.0+, so I'm wondering if maybe I'm shouldn't be using gtk-2.0 themes.
[16:28] <TJ-> tachyondecay: sounds strange; why would it neeed a re-format and re-install?
[16:31] <tachyondecay> TJ-: You helped me on Thursday. I'm the one with the buggy firmware and Intel SRT
[16:34] <TJ-> tachyondecay: oh yeah! I'd forgotten :)
[16:34] <game0> guys, I have installed postgresql on my ubuntu
[16:34] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Haha, I'm not surprised. I'm sure you see a lot of people in and out of here.
[16:34] <TJ-> tachyondecay: didn't think disabling the SRT required a reinstall though, from what I had read
[16:34] <game0> and I want to connect to my server
[16:34] <game0> using pgadmin tool
[16:35] <game0> can someone help me
[16:35] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I can't find a way to disable SRT. :-/
[16:35] <game0> I'm using ubuntu server 15.10
[16:35] <TJ-> tachyondecay: typical Windows :D
[16:35] <tachyondecay> So I can switch my SSD from "RAID" mode to "AHCI" in the BIOS
[16:36] <tachyondecay> But that will break Windows. Which I'm fine with doing, just not this weekend. ;) So I want to try virtualizing Ubuntu, temporarily
[16:36] <anglebert> upon further sleuthing, I think I found what I'm looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Theming --> [SOLVED]
[16:36] <TJ-> tachyondecay: if the hypervisor will allow you to attach partitions as devices, you should be able to do it
[16:37] <tachyondecay> Is that built into Windows 10?
[16:37] <tachyondecay> I was going to use VirtualBox
[16:37] <tachyondecay> But I'm having trouble locating a VM image for 15.10
[16:38] <TJ-> tachyondecay: Something like VirtualBox or VMWare
[16:38] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you would install from the standard ISO image file, mounted on the VM Guest as a DVD
[16:41] <tachyondecay> Ah, I see now
[16:41] <tachyondecay> And I think I've found a guide for how to do it
[16:41] <tachyondecay> That was the part I was missing, because I've only ever used premade VM images before.
[16:42] <tachyondecay> OK, let's give this a try!
[16:43] <tachyondecay> Also I can't believe Firefox is using half a gig of RAM.
[16:43]  * tachyondecay stares at it.
[16:44] <VanessaNaire> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Macbook7,1. It keeps hanging when I attempt a reboot. It was doing the same thing on shutdown, but editing the GRUB config with this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off" fixed that. I still can't seem to figure out how to do essentially the same thing for reboots as well. Any ideas?
[16:46] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Hmm, I've found a very recent forum thread talking about my problem on the exact same machine as me. This post seems to indicate I might be able to restore access to my Windows install without reformatting after I switch to AHCI mode: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2301071&page=4&p=13389664#post13389664 Would you mind just skimming through that to see if there's any gotchas I'm missing?
[16:47] <cdk_> how do i enable overclocking when i cant find the xorg.config in the /ect/x11/ directory?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> there is no X11 dir on the latest ubuntus afaik
[16:49] <cdk_> how do i enable overclocking when i cant find the xorg.config in the /ect/x11/ directory?
[16:49] <harishkrupo> the directory is /etc/X11
[16:50] <OerHeks> xorg.config <> xorg.conf ... this is not generated automaticly, but you can yourself, with the nvidia/ati tool
[16:50] <autoit> hey!i have a dualboot setup. my hdd makes normal sound in windows. but when i boot into ubuntu the sound is much louder. it sounds like normal read/write only but much louder. any help? smart params of hdd are good.
[16:51] <cdk_> yes and within that directory i dont see the xorg.config file
[16:51] <TJ-> tachyondecay: That does look promising, although some comments later say they suffer BSODs
[16:51] <OerHeks> switch to console mode: Alt+Ctrl+F1. kill x server: sudo service lightdm stop # generate new xorg.conf file: sudo X -configure -- this will create xorg.conf.new file in your current dir. rename and move: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[16:52] <OerHeks> = manually method
[16:52] <OerHeks> but overclocking, good luck.
[16:54] <cdk_> ok but bthen it shows up with an xorg.config and one that is a back up with nvidia org in its name then xserver trys to use both
[16:54] <OerHeks>  xorg.config ??
[16:55] <OerHeks> oh boy
[16:56] <cdk_> yes i end up with it and a nvidia orginal xorg backup and it then screws up my resolutoin
[16:56] <earl---> So asking for a friend. During installation, he formated the NTFS windows partition as EXT4 by accident. Can he recover his data or is he screwed
[16:57] <VanessaNaire> Yea that data's pretty much lost.
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> earl---  recover
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> hm
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !recover | earl---
[16:58] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Thanks for taking a look. I think that's a risk worth taking; worst comes to worst I have to backup the Ubuntu install and then do the total reformat/repartitionin/reinstall Windows. But I might not have to!
[16:58] <VanessaNaire> Any ideas on my rebooting issue?
[16:58] <VanessaNaire> I've read that there's a field for reboot on the old GRUB1 config that might have fixed it. Is there a GRUB2 equivalent?
[16:59] <darkxploit> /etc/default/grub
[17:00] <earl---> Ok. So the data is basically gone. Thanks though guys, figured it was worth asking.
[17:00] <VanessaNaire> That's not a file @darkxploit
[17:00] <earl---> Have a good one
[17:01] <OerHeks> acpi-off means the system does nothing with acpi calls, like shutdown. you must manually press the powerbutton at the end.
[17:03] <rey> alguém br ?
[17:03] <OerHeks> !br
[17:03] <bekks> !pt | rey
[17:03] <VanessaNaire> @OerHeks but it actually turns the Macbook off when I shutdown with acpi=off
[17:03] <bekks> Ah.
[17:04] <OerHeks> you are right, bekks
[17:05] <OerHeks> but that line is not even a sentence in portugese too.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> it's obrigado, not obrigada, iirc
[17:07] <anabain> Hi, I need some advice/general directions in order to be able to connect from a remote ubuntu PC (or also an android device, if possible) to my home LAN (consisting of 2 ubuntu boxes) through my dd-wrt router (flashed to the latest giga firmware). To achieve connection through the internet I'll be trying freedns.afraid.org . As for the kind of connections, I'd like to ssh to both boxes and I also want to wake-on-lan them remotely. Is that
[17:07] <anabain>  possible?
[17:07] <rey> obrigado pessoal
[17:09] <VanessaNaire> @anabain so long as you've configured your ports correctly and that router supports port forwarding.
[17:09] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it worth installing "Ubuntu Restricted Extras"? Why? Why not?
[17:09] <gsagie> Hello, i found this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/etcd   , what do i need to do so i could do "apt-get install etcd" and it will work? how can i add this package to my repository
[17:09] <VanessaNaire> Though remember, you'll need to set the second Ubuntu box to a non-default ssh
[17:09] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, if you don't need it, don't.
[17:10] <nbusrone> TJ- : sorry for coming back late which I promise. Going back to the USB3.0 wakeup port , I just need to do type this echo disabled | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/devices/4-1" ?
[17:10] <VanessaNaire> *non-default ssh port
[17:10] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Well, I'm interested in what "Microsoft font" will do. Do you know?
[17:10] <anabain> VanessaNaire, to avoid conflict?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  i never noticed that i did not have thel installed... which is a good thing... until i suddenly found out and did install them
[17:11] <OerHeks> some applications need them, and some webpages.
[17:11] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Oh, okay. Do you know what "Microsoft fonts" do?
[17:11] <OerHeks> and documents
[17:11] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Oh.
[17:12] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Well, it can't hurt to install the extras?
[17:12] <VanessaNaire> @anabain Yes.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  ms fonts makes you pay for everything you type
[17:12] <egggs> the restricted extras is a touchy  subject,  if u want a true free machine don't install it. it installs  things that are not free.
[17:12] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, no, can't hurt, it is one of the 1st steps to get all multimedia stuff
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: What do you mean? :(
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> egggs: Well. :P
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Thanks.
[17:13] <Aison> hmm, I disabled lightdm with systemctl disable lightdm.service
[17:13] <Aison> now I can no longer enable it?!?
[17:13] <OerHeks> but if you want to go proffessional, you might not want all the packages due to licenses, this differs per country
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Wait a minute! You're messing with me, huh? XD
[17:13] <egggs> if you want to play dvds or  certain  music formats   you will have to install it .  for me i install it.
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: No, I'm just a noob.
[17:14] <Cinnamon> hello ladies and gents, I installed kgpg and changed gnupg permissions as instructed. and then I got this error when starting kgpg: 'GnuPG failed to start. You must fix the GnuPG error first before running KGpg.' how can I fix this?
[17:14] <zidsal> hi I was wondering if someone can help me. When I try to install bcmwl-kernels-source via apt-get to get my wifi working it gets stuck on DKMS: install complete. Has antone else seen this before?
[17:14] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: MonkeyDust: egggs: Why does it say "pulls in support for MP3 playback..."? I can already play those files! :/
[17:15] <OerHeks> only VLC can play them standalone.
[17:15] <OerHeks> else you want those codecs.
[17:15] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: I'm playing them in "Videos" now.
[17:15] <VictoriaXOXO> MATE DE.
[17:16] <fawkes_> Bonjours ou suis-je?
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | fawkes_
[17:18] <Cinnamon> and since I installed kgpg, terminal runs 'kbuildsycoca4 running' randomly.
[17:18] <Cinnamon> I deinstalled it anyway, but I'd like to revert the changes that I made to gnupg
[17:18] <Cinnamon> how can I do that?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info kpg
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info kgpg
[17:19] <linocisco> hi all, I am going to choose free version of CRM, which one is better "SugarCRM vs VtigerCRM"?
[17:19] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What do you people think about "Clementine"? Do you prefer another piece of software? Why?
[17:19] <artisanIndia> anyone ever used ebay api ?
[17:19] <bekks> !poll | VictoriaXOXO
[17:20] <bekks> VictoriaXOXO: Basically, the choice of software is based on personal preferences.
[17:20] <VictoriaXOXO> bekks: Well, I need help figuring out what my personal preferences are. ;o)
[17:21] <bekks> VictoriaXOXO: Thats something we cant decide :)
[17:21] <VictoriaXOXO> bekks: I was hoping you could. :o|
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  making your own decisions is part of growing up
[17:22] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: I know (I hate growing up...).
[17:23] <egggs> for audio i use .ogg format for mp3 and audiaciuos  in winamp mode
[17:24] <Molar_Mass> Hi,  I have a friend using Ubuntu who put off an update for a while and ended up doing a partial upgrade.  Now, when they reboot they can't log in unless they enter the terminal, and then trying to startx leads to an error about not being to insert module 'nvidia-352'.  Has anyone heard of something like this happening before?
[17:24] <VictoriaXOXO> Last off-topic rambling -- YAWN! "Stable release 	1.2.3 (March 8, 2014; 20 months ago)" 20 months!!
[17:24] <VanessaNaire> Is there a way to show a address bar in files?
[17:26] <momomo> i am trying to install vlc from sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[17:26] <momomo> i added it .. but it appears as if I am still getting the vlc from ubuntu reposiotry
[17:26] <momomo> how can I install vlc from tasht repoistory ?
[17:27] <egggs> did u update list 1st?
[17:27] <momomo> yes
[17:27] <BluesKaj> momomo, the VLC from the repos should suffice
[17:27] <egggs> and  accept new  ppa by the default enter?
[17:28] <VanessaNaire> @Molar_Mass try running "sudo apt-get install -f" from the terminal. This should fix broken packages, then try doing the update again from the terminal using "sudo apt-get install upgrade"
[17:28] <momomo> BluesKaj, not for me
[17:28] <BluesKaj> momomo, and why not ?
[17:29] <momomo> this is really not relevant, but if you must know .. a certain plugin only works in > 2.2
[17:29] <momomo> vlsub
[17:29] <data`> hey, I know it's EOLed, but is there a utopic mirror somewhere still alive? I need to install a single packet for an old benchmarking system, and would like to avoid upgrading now as this would invalidate most of the results
[17:29] <BluesKaj> which plugin?
[17:29] <momomo> vlsub
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> i use ddg to look for subtitles, works too
[17:31] <Molar_Mass> @VanessaNaire Thanks, but when I ran those it turned out there was nothing to upgrade...
[17:31] <momomo> ddg ?
[17:31] <Molar_Mass> I still have the problem though, what should I do to figure out what's wrong?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> ddg = duckduckgo
[17:32] <momomo> yes, but I was hoping i wouldn't have to go through that process ... that's becoming really annoying and frustrating
[17:33] <momomo> download movie, search for subtitles .. downlaod , open folder, unzip, show exracted folder, drag to vlc
[17:33] <momomo> and if you are lucky to get the right sub
[17:33] <BluesKaj> momomo, which ubuntu are you running ?
[17:33] <momomo> 14
[17:33] <egggs> did verify the ppa is in your source list
[17:33] <momomo> seriosly, it shouldn't be this fucking complicated
[17:33] <momomo> i hate that I ever put my life on fucking ubuntu
[17:33] <momomo> everything is buggy and shit
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> momomo  avoid profane qords
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> words*
[17:35] <[0xBEAKER]> Does anyone have any suggestions to troubleshoot a system that randomly locks up (completely - stops responding to pings, ssh, keyboard inputs, everything) daily?  There's nothing in the logs (I suspect because it freezes before it can log anything) and I've run Memtest which was fine
[17:36] <VanessaNaire> Is there a way to mount an OSX partition in Ubuntu, or do the reverse, mount a ext4 partition in OSX? I want to store files in a location accessible by both operating systems.
[17:37] <VanessaNaire> Nevermind, I think I'm just going to resize my OS X partition and add a FAT32 partition to store my shared files in.
[17:37] <Molar_Mass> @VannessaNaire I have actually dual booted ubuntu and mac once, and you have to set up a separate Data partition (I'll go check, but I think it has to be NTFS).  Mac can't read ext4 I think
[17:37] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: How many passes of memtest?
[17:38] <[0xBEAKER]> Just finished it's first pass, but I'm letting it run
[17:38] <[0xBEAKER]> How many would be considered good?
[17:38] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: When I do it, I start it before going to bed and let it run all night. Don't know exactly how many passes that would be.
[17:39] <VictoriaXOXO> But that's just me and just to be sure. :P
[17:39] <[0xBEAKER]> Makes sense, I'll let it run a few more
[17:40] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: Weird how you sometimes WISH there would be some errors in there. Much easier to replace RAM than to troubleshoot something extremely hard issue. :(
[17:40] <VictoriaXOXO> some*
[17:40] <Cinnamon> hello there! I get this error: 'gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file'.. did this come because I ran the gpg with sudo?
[17:42] <Kash>  /msg NickServ identify alskadash==
[17:42] <DJones> kaseoga_: Time for a new password
[17:42] <Guest19215> yeah :/
[17:43] <kaseoga_> DJones: not me haha
[17:43] <DJones> kaseoga_: Yeah, quick nick change
[17:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, back for a bit...
[17:44] <Molar_Mass> @VannessaNaire Turns out I actually just gave up and only used the ubuntu partition on the macbook (e.g no data partition as I suggested).  Still a pain since updating Mac OSX automatically hides ubuntu...
[17:45] <Molar_Mass> I still have the question about the broken update with the problem with xorg conf
[17:45] <moonpunter> Does anyone know: after you get the quickly-ubuntu-templates package installed, where is the default ubuntu-project template located, what are the file extensions to look for, or how to verify I have the package installed properly. I'm trying to use quickly because it SOUNDS like it will be easier than going through all the steps manually, but i'm this close to just going the other way...
[17:45] <allizom> Molar_Mass: she left a while ago
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> !info quickly-ubuntu-templates
[17:47] <nitish> How can I install kompozer?
[17:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: WHat do you think.. What kind of side effects would purging and reinstalling unity reap... Not sure if it could reset some of the side effects..... Or, maybe not. We still need to install the vivid xorg package, I think. Or maybe we already did that
[17:47] <Molar_Mass> I have to leave, I'll ask about this later today
[17:47] <al2o3-cr> nitish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallKompozer
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> moonpunter  are you working with 12.04 precise?
[17:48] <sg> hi
[17:49] <sg> how can I remove the title bar in Opera?
[17:49] <allvariables>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-18-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "wily" 15.10 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GiB, 91.0% free ** Disk: Total: 2.0TiB, 29.0% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250/350] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82579V
[17:49] <allvariables> Gigabit Network Connection ** Uptime: 21h 14m 26s **
[17:49] <keepguessing> My bootup is fast but post login is slow.
[17:49] <keepguessing> how do I debug why its slow?
[17:49] <keepguessing> I am running wily
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> keepguessing  here are a few tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/13400360/
[17:51] <Guest68934> How can I remove the title bar from Opera?
[17:51] <nitish> its looks like too complicated to install kompozer. Is there any alternative of kompozer?
[17:52] <bekks> nitish: Isnt kompozer dead for years now?
[17:52] <OerHeks> !ide
[17:52] <nitish> bekks: I am searching for an alternative of kompozer.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> nitish  there's BlueGriffon, not in the repos, and partky commercial
[17:52] <OerHeks> libre office
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> partly*
[17:53] <lickalott> hey all I've created a file in /etc/init.d called zpool_start.  it contains one line that looks like - zpool import pool0.  I've given it execute permissions, but it doesn't seem to auto mount the pool if a restart occurs.
[17:53] <nitish> MonkeyDust: How can I install BlueGriffon?
[17:53] <lickalott> is there a better/more efficient way to accomplish this?
[17:53] <the_count> nitish: Try out Komodo Edit
[17:53] <nitish> the_count: how?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> nitish  http://bluegriffon.org/
[17:54] <unicornjedi> hello. does anyone here installed tinycore?
[17:54] <the_count> nitish: http://komodoide.com/komodo-edit/
[17:57] <nitish> is there any application like tux typing?
[17:58] <the_count> OerHeks: At what hours is Bashing-om around?
[17:59] <the_count> nitish: There is somethig called Google
[18:02] <hk_> hello
[18:02] <hk_> 有中国人吗
[18:02] <the_count> hi
[18:02] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: There is something called spying. ;)
[18:02] <hk_> what
[18:03] <the_count> VictoriaXOXO: In what way am I spying? ... Or are you talking about in some countries?
[18:03] <pauljw> nitish: recommend you install synaptic package manager and use it to search for available packages in the repositories.
[18:03] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: No, not you. The service you suggested. :P
[18:03] <hk_> 有会说中文的吗
[18:04] <the_count> VictoriaXOXO: In this day, Google is a verb... Really, no one says Bing it, or yahoo it, or
[18:05] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: "Use a search engine...", but we're off-topic now. :P
[18:05] <hk_> Is there a Chinese? I can't speak English
[18:06] <the_count> nitish: Clarification, use a search engine in which you find yourself obtaining the privacy you deserve
[18:07] <nitish> the_count: :)
[18:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: What is the current status with your disk usage .. continue cleaning up ?
[18:07] <nitish> can anyone tell me that what is the use of synaptic?
[18:07] <qwesd> hey!suppose i have a hdd of 500gb. what would be the difference in position of the first 100gb and the last 100gb? i am asking because my dual boot ubuntu is towards the end of the hdd and i was wondering if it will affect the life of the hdd
[18:08] <allvariables> how duck duck?
[18:08] <allvariables> hows*
[18:08] <VictoriaXOXO> nitish: I see it as a more functional and detailed version of the software center. Not sure if that's correct, though. XD
[18:08] <zidsal> does anyone have the time to help me get wifi working on my laptop? I have a broadcom card so it doesn't work be default. I've tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source, b43-fwcutter, firmware-b43-installer, however none of them are working. I've currently just done a fresh reinstall
[18:08] <mathias__> Hallo
[18:08] <mathias__> ist hier ein Experte_
[18:08] <JaredFTW> is your wifi switch on?
[18:09] <ille> qwesd: pase it where u want
[18:09] <zidsal> JaredFTW yes it is
[18:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: I currently have 7.7 gb free... Shall I remove some files to make it less full... I have a 256gb ssd which shares linux and windows partitions, I have been slowely shrinking the windows partition and growing the linux one over time
[18:09] <ille> qwesd: is not 80 anymore
[18:10] <qwesd> ille: i dont get you
[18:10] <ille> qwesd: is no worre where u paste your things on the disk. is not 1980 anymore
[18:11] <JaredFTW> If you go to the network button, make sure you have Enable Network and Enable Wi-Fi checked
[18:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let us look and see where the space is being consumed before making any changes  ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' .
[18:12] <dbeginer> i am trying to run "sudo apt-get upadte"
[18:12] <qwesd> ille: actually my hdd makes quite a lot of noise when booted into ubuntu. when booted in windows its very quiet but in ubuntu i can hear the i/o operations. i dont know why this is happening. its not clicking sound just normal i/o but loud
[18:12] <dbeginer> i am getting this error dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[18:12] <zidsal> JaredFTW I have wifi currently worming by tethering to my phone and ebabled networking is ticked
[18:12] <zidsal> enabled*
[18:12] <nitish> How can i see all packages I've installed(not inbuilt)?
[18:13] <zidsal> the lack of internet is a known issue with broadcome networking cards
[18:13] <g0th> hi
[18:13] <dbeginer> i am trying to run sudo apt-get update. i am getting this error "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." what am i supposed to do ??
[18:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401018/
[18:14] <zidsal> dbeginer what was the last thing you tried to install? it wasn't bcmwl-kernel-source was it?
[18:14] <game0> guys, how to search a word inside file using nano
[18:14] <JaredFTW> I'd recommend sending the card to broadcome for repairs, or buying a new one, you might have to buy a USB wi-fi dongle until either one comes
[18:15] <dbeginer> no i didn't do anything like that
[18:15] <Bashing-om> nitish: Maybe something like ' dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ' Also there is 'debfoster' .
[18:15] <zidsal> JaredFTW the card is not broken. It works fine under windows. This is a driver issue with linux it is well documentated on the internet
[18:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n ,
[18:15] <g0th> How do I setup bluetooh audio for ubuntu?
[18:15] <g0th> I tried blueman and it worked at the beginning but now it no longer works (the device is never found)
[18:15] <g0th> any idea why?
[18:15] <nitish> Bashing-om: what is debfoster?
[18:15] <adam444> how can I get rid of the title bar in opera?
[18:15] <dbeginer> zidsal : no i didn't install anything like that
[18:16] <g0th> I'm on Ubuntu 15.10
[18:16] <JaredFTW> zidsal: try uninstalling the broadcome drivers and find better ones on the internet
[18:16] <zidsal> dbeginer nevermind then I recently had an issue like that where the installing of an old package didn't install correctly
[18:16] <MichaelTun> anyone in here using Ubuntu 14.04 that would be willing to test something for me? Would take less than 2 minutes.
[18:17] <qwesd> my hdd makes quite a lot of noise when booted into ubuntu. when booted in windows its very quiet but in ubuntu i can hear the i/o operations. i dont know why this is happening. its not clicking sound just normal i/o but loud
[18:17] <dbeginer> zidsal : how did you get over with it ? will it effect working or something ?
[18:17] <JaredFTW> qwesd: are there several programs starting up on startup, like Skype, Steam, etc?
[18:17] <zidsal> JaredFTW the correct package to install to fix this is bcmwl-kernel-source or b43-fwcutter or firmware-b43-installer depending on what broadcome card you have however none of them work which makes me suspect something like a blacklist
[18:18] <zidsal> dbeginer I'll find you the command I had to run in a second
[18:18] <qwesd> JaredFTW: no additional programs. i can hear any time i open a folder or browser basically read and write ops
[18:18] <zidsal> dbeginer what happens when you run sudo dpkg -C
[18:18] <droid> hola
[18:18] <droid> alguien que pueda ayudarme
[18:19] <Guest80775> soy nuevo con el Xubuntu
[18:19] <JaredFTW> zidsal: try running sudo apt-get repair or update, I honestly have no other ideas
[18:19] <linocisco> hi
[18:19] <MichaelTun> Guest80775:  you should join #Ubuntu-es
[18:19] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are in a mess due to serious problems during installation.  They must be reinstalled for them (and any packages that depend on them) to function properly:  ttf-mscorefonts-installer (no description available)  The following packages have been unpacked but not yet configured. They must be configured using dpkg --configure or the configure menu option in dselect for them to work:  cabextract           
[18:20] <dbeginer> zidsal : it return this
[18:20] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are missing the md5sums control file in the database, they need to be reinstalled:  ttf-mscorefonts-installer (no description available)
[18:20] <zidsal> I don't know what those packages do so you'll want to find out before I had a similar problem when my installer meesed up to fix it I had to run sudo dpkg -r <PACKAGE NAME>
[18:20] <JaredFTW> qwesd: there might be something wrong with the sector that you have Ubuntu installed on
[18:21] <dbeginer> zidsal : what to do now ? sorry for irritating i am complete beginer in linux !
[18:21] <pauljw> dbeginer: did you try the solution in the original error?  i find that apt-get is pretty good at getting problems figured out.
[18:21] <qwesd> JaredFTW: all smart parameters of the drive are good. i have run scans on the drive and all show 0 bad sectors
[18:22] <qwesd> JaredFTW: reallocation count is also 0
[18:22] <g0th> how do I setup bluetooth audio in ubuntu?
[18:22] <nitish> Is there any racing game  available?
[18:22] <g0th> It worked once with blueman (quite ok) but now it doesn't find any devices anymore :(
[18:22] <dbeginer> pauljw : The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems configuring them the first time.  The configuration should be retried using dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect:  runit                system-wide service supervision
[18:22] <Guest6785> How can I be the president of USA again?
[18:22] <zidsal> dbeginer I don't want to lead you down the wrong path as I am not too sure
[18:23] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : 14.04 LTS what you got?
[18:23] <GNUmad> g0th: maybe this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[18:23] <BarrackObama> How to update ubuntu to newer version?
[18:23] <dbeginer> pauljw : can you guide me how to fix this ? yesterday i had issue with runit and i use force removel command i think i had deleted runit package can you tell how to put it back again ?
[18:23] <the_count> eBashing-om: What do you think?
[18:24] <JaredFTW> qwesd: do you have a really really big amount of files/folders? if so, it might be the file explorer pre-loading them in the background, I honestly have no idea
[18:24] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems configuring them the first time.  The configuration should be retried using dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect:  runit                system-wide service supervision
[18:25] <dbeginer> zidsal : can you guide me how to fix this ? yesterday i had issue with runit and i use force removel command i think i had deleted runit package can you tell how to put it back again ?
[18:25] <Bashing-om> nitish: ' apt-cache show debfoster ' will give you better info than I can .
[18:25] <qwesd> JaredFTW: i don't its just 10gb at max. i can seem to figure out whats wrong :(
[18:25] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: great.
[18:25] <zidsal> as I said dbeginer I don't want to lead you down the wrong path as I don't know what those packages do however what I had to do ti fix my similar issue was to remove the package with sudo dpkg -r <package name> anbd then reinstall the package
[18:26] <g0th> GNUmad: I already read that page
[18:26] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4 I need you to run two commands for me and give me the output of the command.
[18:26] <g0th> GNUmad: what I don't understand is why blueman no longer finds my device
[18:26] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun Lets see those commands...
[18:26] <pauljw> dbeginer: you're in over my head.  sorry.
[18:27] <dbeginer> coeus@ubuntu:~$ dpkg --configure runit dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege ... i am getting this error trying to configure runit how to do it ?
[18:27] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: apt --help (share via http://paste.ubuntu.com/)
[18:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: You have bunches install .. - the size of /root blows me away . Let's see what cleaning will do for us ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; apt-get autoremove ' .
[18:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: What should it be?
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> Hello all. i will copy paste my question also here.
[18:28] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: then I want to see if apt will let you install with that command too like "sudo apt install uget" (don't need to install it, just let me know if it says it will or not)
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> I have one question about regular expression (regex|regexp). Hmmm... how i can add backspace to replace? search"[:alpha:]$". Because if i use plain "$" it will connect all lines to single line.
[18:28] <pauljw> dbeginer: that means use sudo dpkg --configure runit
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> in libreoffice
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> i want to only connect lines where is text together
[18:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I do have a kvm virstual machine which is located in /var/libvirt/somethingorother
[18:28] <dbeginer> pauljw : coeus@ubuntu:~$ dpkg --configure runit dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege.. it shows this error
[18:29] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun :http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401292/
[18:29] <pauljw> dbeginer: you get that when using sudo?
[18:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: Mind you I run real tight .. my /root " 1852    root " !
[18:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: In kb, right?
[18:30] <pauljw> dbeginer: sudo is what gives you superuser privilege
[18:30] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: NICE no need to test install then
[18:30] <dbeginer> pauljw : with sudo i am getting this error ... Setting up runit (2.1.2-3ubuntu1) ... start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused dpkg: error processing package runit (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ... Processing triggers for fontconfig (2.11.1-0ubuntu6) ... Errors were e
[18:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Or what, that is a bit smalle
[18:31] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: Ubuntu 14.04 used to not allow that. I guess you are on the latest point release like 14.04.3 or something
[18:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: That clean up did nothing
[18:31] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try one more thing for me if you dont mind, "man apt"
[18:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: No, the output ss directed is in megabytes .
[18:33] <flyn4x4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401362/
[18:33] <g0th> GNUmad: how can I completely reset my blueman settings?
[18:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a 10.7gb kvm image inside /var/lib/libvirt/images, would that do it?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I can advise at this point is to start removing applications that you do not use . We must get that disk space down to something manageable .. As advised at 90% file system becomes fragmented .
[18:34] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : got the man page
[18:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm moving things off now
[18:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: /var is huge .. no doubt at " 11906596var " .
[18:36] <GNUmad> g0th: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure bluez
[18:36] <GNUmad> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[18:36] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : I have this system working pretty good. plex server and 1tb additional hdd
[18:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: we might look at the number of old log files there .. maybe cron is not removing the oldest files ???
[18:38] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : do you have any idea why apps dont appear in the search or (for a lack of a better term) start menu
[18:39] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: does the man page contain the same information that the --help did?
[18:39] <g0th> GNUmad: no I haven't but that's not my problem
[18:39] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try pressing Super+A instead of just Super (aka Windows key) and then try searching for apps
[18:39] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun:  no there is much more info in the man page
[18:40] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: does the man page include the install info though?
[18:41] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401557/
[18:41] <g0th> GNUmad: ok, I got some different behavior but now it says "failed to connect"
[18:41] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun Yes it does
[18:42] <g0th> resp. failed to add device
[18:42] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: great thank you for the assistance. Did the Super+A work?
[18:43] <flyn4x4> michaeltun    No it doesnt show any apps
[18:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: How shall we deal with log files, I was disconnected..
[18:44] <zidsal> has anyone managed to get internet working with broadcom's BCM4350  chip?
[18:44] <Guest48268> test
[18:44] <GNUmad> g0th: try this , hcitool dev it shows your bluetooth adapter, then run /etc/init.d/bluetooth force-reload
[18:45] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search....    , using just a single letter or a whole word
[18:45] <g0th> I now managed to add the device again
[18:46] <g0th> but I can't select it from pavucontrol
[18:46] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: what is it that you are trying to find?
[18:47] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: oh you are saying no apps display at all even before searching?
[18:47] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun: Konversation, chrome, disks     heck i havent tried all the apps i have but to get konversation to run i had to go to the commandline
[18:47] <the_count> Bahing-om: Ok... I do have Steam installed with a couple games that I never play... i was going to remove them... But I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401646/ when trying to start the application
[18:48] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun thats right
[18:48] <MichaelTun> Konversation, are you using KDE or just using Konversation in Ubuntu?
[18:48] <g0th> hmm and now it works again, I don't know why
[18:48] <g0th> it seems kind of a random behavior
[18:48] <flyn4x4> konversation in ubuntu
[18:48] <g0th> and now it doesn't work *g*
[18:48] <g0th> great
[18:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Log files .. take a lok at what is ' ls -al /var/log/ ' should not have files older than "XX.7.gz" .
[18:49] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: first good choice, Konversation is the best. second can you open apps via Alt+F2?
[18:49] <flyn4x4> good to know i have been using ubuntu for years and still learning
[18:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: I assume older than .7 means numbers lessthan 7, there is quite a few... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401700/
[18:51] <tgm4883> Anyone know of a way to specify a build-depends only for a particular architecture?
[18:51] <GNUmad> g0th: maybe rfkill unblock bluetooth
[18:52] <flyn4x4> yes alt+f2 works
[18:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: Fir stean ' sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa:i386 ; . See what results . Var: .8,9, 10 's ???
[18:53] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try installing MenuLibre via "sudo apt install menulibre" it will let you edit your system's menu entries. It might also let you see if any of the entries are set to "hide entry".
[18:54] <flyn4x4> so does apt work the same as apt-get just fancy er
[18:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Log files are large, but in order .. not a lot to be done for the long term . We can dis-regard the log files .
[18:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... As soon as I installed that, it autoremoved a lot of Vivid files...
[18:55] <g0th> GNUmad: I give up, this is already my second bluetooth audio set, somehow it doesn't work properly in linux
[18:55] <anabain> Can you set up a VPN like this:  remote ubuntu box -> ddns server -> the internet -> dd-wrt router with ddns client ? I mean, does the ddns service (free or $) restrict that kind of connection in any way?
[18:55] <g0th> hmm it works from my android phone though
[18:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401811/
[18:56] <g0th> GNUmad: basically it randomly fails and I have to try "random" resets/restarts/reload of various applications/services/settings
[18:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch ! .. steam not happy as is .. tough call here .. remove and (RE-)install steam when we get the system back happy with vivid's stack ???
[18:56] <g0th> once I get it working it doesn't play smoothly after a short time
[18:56] <the_count> Bashing-om; and if I ' sudo apt-get upgrade ' this returns; http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401827/
[18:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: I really don't need Steam at all... But I do use it a couple minutes out of each month.... Just leftovers of my past life.
[19:00] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : alt+f2 just mimics what i type, If it is a valid application it will run it though.
[19:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: So we may remove it... The thing is.. We had better make sure that it removes every last thing... There is probably 4gb of games installes
[19:01] <g0th> hmm, http://askubuntu.com/questions/252794/cannot-connect-to-bluetooth-speaker-logitech-boombox <- ok with this I get the best results so far
[19:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: A mess for sure .. try'n to think our way through this.
[19:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you think Steam may have caudes the problems in the first place?
[19:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: caused
[19:05] <monsune> is there a way to make apt-get stop using ipv6?
[19:05] <theplane> Hello, after installation I'm taken straight to Busybox instead of Ubuntu. How do I solve this?
[19:06] <theplane> also, I typed "exit" and it managed to boot properly. How do I retain this without entering "exit" every time?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> theplane  which ubuntu version?
[19:06] <theplane> MonkeyDust: Apologies, it's Linux Mint.
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> theplane  not for this channel
[19:06] <theplane> But I've seen similar issues on Ubuntuforums
[19:07] <theplane> Their channel is terrible for help
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> theplane  ask in the Mint channel
[19:07] <theplane> I did
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> theplane  you're in the wrong channel here
[19:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is new disk usage: How does it look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402058/ It's about as good as it is going to get
[19:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: Presently I can not tell how long or what efforts it will take to recover . Are you prepared to take the nuclear solution and (RE-)install ? As to steam it is stable in a standard install .. HWE introduces a lot of variables.
[19:08] <monsune> is there a way to make apt-get stop using ipv6?
[19:09] <Guest21906> When I click, the cursor selects the line above, the offset is off. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstall Ubuntu?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah re-install the operating system... as the heart of xorg has been ripped out .. Maybe we can piece it back together .
[19:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't see why not try...
[19:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: All for fixing .. let's remove steam from the system, go ahead as the package manager wants and rebuild . As you see the drivers for touchpad are effected .
[19:13] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: sorry, for the lack of reply. I am working on an article about apt and yes apt does a lot of what apt-get does but not everything. I am writing an article to explain what it can and cant do
[19:13] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: did you try MenuLibre?
[19:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Would removing the libmesa... Whatever it was called help?
[19:13] <flyn4x4> yes i did
[19:14] <flyn4x4> i went to the uget website and it looks cool
[19:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: As I see it... It's going to be better for me to try to stick it out and learn something, the way I see it, I'll at least learn something
[19:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: My focus is on steam/HWE. How did you install steam ? From our repo or other ?
[19:14] <flyn4x4> menulibre let me see the stuff but none are hidden
[19:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can we purge the steam application from the command line...? I installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center
[19:15] <flyn4x4> and i guess its called the "dash" still doesnt show applications
[19:15] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: thanks, I'm project manager for uGet
[19:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Concur on the learning curve, I expect I too will learn in this process . You be that ginny pig .
[19:15] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: are the categories enabled in MenuLibre?
[19:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing wrong with that...
[19:16] <MichaelTun> it is possible to hide all apps in a category by disabling the category.
[19:16] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: yes it is called the "Dash" and the panel on the left is the "Launcher"
[19:16] <flyn4x4> no hidden apps or cats
[19:16] <flyn4x4> just not showing any apps
[19:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: And... I believe I have everything backed up, except my RSA keys... I do not want to loose those
[19:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Good on steam then ... rather than purge .. let's remove as we may want to re0install steam at a later time ... do: ' sudo apt-get remove steam ' , I can anticipate the system screamming and hollering .
[19:17] <flyn4x4>  it worked saturday and i havnt installed anything scince
[19:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wow... It says that it is not installed
[19:18] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: installing doesn't mean it would happen. It is possible something happened in the System Settings or maybe via Ubuntu Tweak. Have you messed with those at all?
[19:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well ! ... ok, let's install it and then remove it . ' sudo apt-get install steam '
[19:20] <flyn4x4> ok Michaeltun thanks , i will try some other stuff and check out the new uget .   Thanks for your help..... Havent since it last worked...  just installed konversation on saturday then used it (the dash) to start konversation and then today (1 week later) no apps show in dash
[19:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, now remove?
[19:26] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: sorry I can't be of more use. I haven't used Unity in a couple of years so I'm rusty on it.
[19:27] <flyn4x4> its cool i will just play with stuff today... this computer is not my daily driver its just my plex server so no big deal just wierd thank you MichaelTun
[19:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe for HWE we should have installed it for multiarch
[19:28] <defcon6> hi guys. I just updated to 16.04 and am wondering about the Unity8 DE. Last time I tried to install and run it did not work and froze my computer. Is it usable in version 16.04 or is it still to soon?
[19:28] <tachyondecay> OK, I have a recovery image and system image of my new Windows install. Time to rock and roll….
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> defcon6: #ubuntu+1
[19:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: So...
[19:29] <defcon6> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[19:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: No idea of how steam should be installed .. did not know there were options . You are on a 64 bit system and --- is steam 32 bit ?? I do not recall .
[19:30] <quechon> hello
[19:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: I guess it doesn't really matter. We were going to comepletely remove it, right?
[19:30] <quechon> im trying to build a scantool software from scrath
[19:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looks like Steam is 32bit
[19:30] <quechon> im getting this when runnin make http://pastebin.com/D6ZLyZQh
[19:31] <quechon> i have tried ln -s
[19:31] <quechon> but no luck
[19:31] <osho0000> hi guys i can't get the speed of my laptop with sudo dmidecode | grep -A 15 Memory nor with sudo lshw -short -C memory
[19:31] <osho0000> sorry, the speen of the memory
[19:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well " completely" is relative .. if we "remove" it's config files will remain // If we purge then the config files will also be removed .
[19:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Take a look at this link: http://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-steam-client-on-debian-jessie-8-linux-64bit
[19:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Right
[19:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n . be back in a bit .
[19:34] <quechon> any suggestion
[19:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: As we install from repo, I do not see the relevance for a 'debian' install method - in this case .
[19:37] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was pointing you to this as a ' partial ' reference
[19:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: From the requirements point of view
[19:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah . is good info to keep in mimd .. I am hopefull our package manager will advise us along our way .
[19:39] <globalist> Hello everybody! I downloaded 15.10 (sha- and md5 sums check out) and I cannot, for the life of me, create a bootable USB device. I tried it with the Startup Disk Creator and the dd-command and even used 3 different USB sticks -- but to no avail. With either method the USB is either not even recognized during bootup or i get a black screen with nothing more than "boot error". I can't find any specific information online so I wanted t
[19:39] <globalist> o ask if any of you had some ideas? :)
[19:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: That would be ideal... So... What do we start out with?
[19:40] <AlexQ> globalist: Have you tried reading an image of the disk (after writing with dd) and verifying the md5 and/or sha1 checksum?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get remove steam' is the start .. if that completes .. ' sudo apt-get 0f install ' . See what Xorg looks like . O do expect to have to re-install some of the HWE components .
[19:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: And another thing about completely reinstalling Ubuntu, I'm still learning the in's and out's of the file structure/os and it's not as straingtforeward for me as is windows as it currently stands
[19:41] <globalist> AlexQ: Actually I didn't (and not once has that been necessary with any Ubuntu flavor for me) but you're right, that's something I have to check out!
[19:41] <Bashing-om> * sudo apt-get -f install **
[19:42] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it possible to install (try) another desktop environment WITHOUT also installing duplicates of all software? :/
[19:42] <AlexQ> globalist: When reading an ISO filesystem directly from the pendrive device to file using dd, you will most likely need to specify the exact amount of bytes to copy (exact to the original .iso REAL filesize), otherwise you'll end up reading the whole device I guess.
[19:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: ' sudo apt-get -f install ' http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402910/
[19:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: linux file system is compl;etely different . once you are comforable with the file system you are well on your way to mastering system administration .
[19:43] <al2o3-cr> YWH_1: What you looking for?
[19:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: When I first started, I could not understand the concept of having / as the root directory...
[19:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: I know no better thing than to allow the ystem to break, and then fix it .. Go ahead and ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' // scary thought .. byt we have the tools to rebuild .
[19:45] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: What is scary with apt-get autoremove?
[19:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Why is this? I got two minutes to wait untill my current backup od home is done
[19:46] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402910/ . This system is HWE enabled .. and we rip the heart out of Xorg .
[19:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is the heart of xorg not already removed, or does the system think they need removed when they are really nessesary?
[19:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: If you were to give me a one sentence definition of HWE that would give me a basis of understanding, how would you define it?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: The latter os our case . == required, and we make sure HWE is satisfied after ripping the system apart .
[19:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack .
[19:53] <the_count> Bashing-om; okBashing-om: So, basically it replaces the kernel of a system
[19:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah and also Xserver ( Xorg amongst all that ) .
[19:57] <custom> how does steam work with ubuntu?
[19:57] <custom> how well
[19:57] <VictoriaXOXO> On a scale from 37 to 175939543? 102483.
[19:57] <tachyondecay> Interesting: live USB recognized my touchpad this boot, even though on previous boot it did not. Hmm.
[19:57] <n1ghtmar3> well enough
[19:58] <VictoriaXOXO> custom: It just... works.
[19:58] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: just choose your metapackge carefully, and yes (kinda).  An example, of XFCE - if you install xubuntu-desktop you'll get a lot of duplaction, if you instead install xfce4 you just get XFCE.  good luck.
[19:58] <the_count> Bashing-om; ok.. have everything backed up that I want backed up... Proceding to tear apart system
[19:58] <custom> what distro would you suggest trying.
[19:58] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: What about Cinnamon? Any way to just change the VISUAL things?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; We have the tools, we have the technology; we can rebuild .
[19:59] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: sorry i'm not familiar with cinnamon, so don't know the details.
[19:59] <egggs> steam works great on my system, but its all about the video card and  drivers you choose
[19:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good
[19:59] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: Darn...
[19:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Now what shall I do
[20:00] <alethes> I'm unable to use tethering on my Ubuntu 15.10 desktop computer. In case it's relevant, it has the Rampage V Extreme motherboard. I tried both with  an iPhone 5S and LG G4, through USB and Wi-Fi. I can establish a network connection, but I can't access the Internet.
[20:00] <alethes> Is this the right place to seek support? I'm willing to pay to get this issue solved.
[20:00] <custom> would you suggest Mint, Black Lab linux,  Steam OS, straight Ubuntu? Does it make any difference
[20:01] <VictoriaXOXO> custom: Mint/Ubuntu. :)
[20:01] <the_count> custom: What are you lookinf for in an os?
[20:01] <egggs> what are your  pc  specs?
[20:01] <custom> something that work well with Steam.. Im familiar with Linux
[20:02] <tachyondecay> Ubuntu works fine with Steam
[20:02] <egggs> whatever the case an easy way to test is  live cd or   vitural machince it
[20:02] <AlexQ> On clean Xubuntu 15.10 install or Xubuntu 15.10 live I have nice smooth (pixel-precise) scrolling on my touchpad and it works well in Mousepad or Gedit, but I had a problem on my Xubuntu 15.04 (it was smoothly scrolling for some distance and then jumping, as in old-school mouse wheel-like scrolling - as if both scrolling methods were active simultaneously), and unfortunately the problem remains after upgrading to 15.10. Any ideas? I don't
[20:02] <the_count> custom: SteamOS will almost undoubtebly work the best with steam
[20:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: "autoremove" is done ? Let's look : 'dpkg -l linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-vivid:i386 '
[20:02] <globalist> custom: Depending on how much you want to experiment with different desktop environments you can try any of these. The Ubuntu base makes them very stable, it's quite a matter of personal taste and to what "desktop behaviour" you're accustomed! :)
[20:03] <custom> ok Thanks guys
[20:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: Returned: ' dpkg-query: no packages found matching libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid ; dpkg-query: no packages found matching libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 ' and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13403774/
[20:04] <alethes> Tethering works without issues on my Ubuntu 15.04 laptop, Windows, iOS and OS X devices. However, I can't connect to Internet on my Ubuntu 15.10 desktop. What could be the reason?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: Expected " no packages found" we did remove them .. this is overkill if You are not going to run games - 32 bit apps - . IF there is nop need of the 43 bit libraries we can do with out a bunch of stuff .
[20:06] <ubuntus> hi all
[20:06] <bittin_> hi
[20:06] <AlexQ> alethes: Can you ping your device?
[20:07] <mks656> having prblm clnup boot
[20:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't see why we cannot just remove everything we don't need now... If in the future I ever want to reinstall steam, then we can figure it out. I still have my windows partition to play games on if I really feel the desire
[20:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: I say just get rid of it... I got more productive projects to do anyway
[20:08] <globalist> ubuntus: hi! :)
[20:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: Makes life simpler .. ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid ' .
[20:09] <globalist> bittin_: hi! :)
[20:09] <bittin_> hi
[20:09] <grash> join #ubuntu-hu
[20:09] <ubuntus> тут по русски кто то понимает?
[20:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I thought wayland was bad?
[20:10] <alethes> AlexQ: Thank you for answering. I'm not sure how to check the IP...
[20:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: I too was surprised to see it .. no idea what the developers have in mind here .
[20:10] <AlexQ> alethes: What does command 'route' output?
[20:10] <AlexQ> alethes: After connecting to the hotspot of course.
[20:11] <mks656> no icq
[20:11] <the_count> bashing-om: So... It finished, no hiccups. Do you do any development, or do you do purly system admin work?
[20:12] <alethes> AlexQ: I'm currently connected to my LG G4. The interface is usb0. The 'route' command outputs three lines. The 'destination' values are: default, link-local, 192.168.42.0
[20:12] <AlexQ> alethes: What is the 'gateway' column entry for default?
[20:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: I used to be the senior Network Controller in communications networks . Retired now and I spend my time learning this operating system .
[20:13] <AlexQ> 192.168.42.1 ?
[20:13] <alethes> AlexQ: 192.168.42.129
[20:13] <AlexQ> alethes: Can you try 'ping 192.168.42.129' ?
[20:13] <alethes> AlexQ: It works
[20:14] <AlexQ> alethes: And if you try like 'ping 8.8.8.8' ?
[20:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, what's next on the list?
[20:15] <bindi> how can i check my system disk performance with the included tool? it wants to unmount the disk but i dont think you can do that, its the system disk
[20:16] <alethes> AlexQ: It works as well. However, the browser is unable to resolve any hostname and I can't eg. ssh to a server.
[20:16] <AlexQ> alethes: Than it is just a DNS config issue, most likely.
[20:16] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[20:17] <globalist> hello, ubuntu-mate_!
[20:17] <AlexQ> alethes: Do 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[20:18] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am considering .. gimme a bit more .. if it is safe, and now time to reboot .
[20:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I'll reboot now... Say, sometime it doesn't boot up, then what happens?
[20:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: How do I know if it is safe to reboot?
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: I've been using a landline connection without issues. Tthe router broke yesterday and I'd like to use the mobile network until the replacement arrives. I just tried 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and it outputs:
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: # Generated by Network Manager
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: search fritz.box (the name of the router I've been using)
[20:21] <pauljw> the_count: wait, Bashing-om will let you know
[20:21] <alethes> AlexQ: nameserver 192.168.178.1
[20:21] <Bitnova> hi, im having an issue with Bluez sending and recieving files to my phone. If i want to uninstall Bluez and purge so that i can reinstall it, it wants to also uninstall Kodi and i dont want that to happen. any thoughts?
[20:21] <the_count> pauljw: You bet I'll wait
[20:21] <alethes> AlexQ: I can see it has been overwritten now, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
[20:21] <pauljw> :)
[20:23] <the_count> pauljw: Not really in the mood to mess up Ubuntu further when it could have been prevented
[20:24] <alethes> AlexQ: I changed it to 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' and it works fine. Thank you very much for your help!
[20:24] <AlexQ> alethes: Yeah, I was just typing you a more detailed instruction. Bear in mind that it might be permanent, don't know how NetworkManager behaves.
[20:24] <globalist> Bitnova: there is (among other workarounds) this: https://askubuntu.com/a/695903
[20:25] <globalist> Bitnova: You might also want to try "apt-get --reinstall bluez" first :)
[20:25] <AlexQ> alethes: For a more permanent solution, you could try to remove the file, and reconnect, or preferably reboot your system. If that doesn't resolve the issue, just click on the NetworkManager applet that you use to connect to networks, select Edit connections..., edit the connection you are going to use and type the IP address of your phone (the one from destination column of default-route from route) , or e.g. Google's NS you just configu
[20:26] <tachyondecay> I am in the Ubuntu live environment right now trying to install alongside Windows. I need to shrink the NTFS partition, but I can't do this with the Ubuntu installer's partitioner. GParted does not see my SSD
[20:26] <tachyondecay> The SSD was previously mounted and recognized by the live environment, and the Ubuntu installer partioner can see its partitions fine
[20:26] <lotus|xenial> !uefi | tachyondecay
[20:26] <Bitnova> globalist, thank you so much. im going to try that. Yes i will try reinstall first, but i think there might be some wrong installation of config... so i want to purge.. and then reinstall
[20:26] <lotus|xenial> tachyondecay: make your life easy and install ubuntu single :p
[20:27] <the_count> tachyodecay: What windows OS do you have installed?
[20:27] <tachyondecay> Windows 10
[20:27] <AlexQ> Bitnova: globalist: Yeah, purge is a good idea.
[20:27] <tachyondecay> I tried shrinking the partition from there already, but it wants to keep like 120 GB
[20:27] <Bitnova> sounds good
[20:28] <bekks> tachyondecay: Can you take a screenshot of which disks you can see in gparted?
[20:28] <AlexQ> tachyondecay: It is still a bit strange that the installer sees that partition, and GParted doesn't. Are you sure you checked the device select box in top-right corner of the GParted interface?
[20:28] <tachyondecay> I want 40 GB for Windows, 170 GB for a shared data partition, and the rest for Ubuntu
[20:28] <bekks> tachyondecay: Most likely Windows 10 needs more than 40G.
[20:28] <tachyondecay> AlexQ: Yes, the only device it sees is dev/sda (the installer USB)
[20:28] <the_count> tachyodecay: Speaking from experience, I believe Windows 8+ has hibernation set as default, disable that before you resize anything, because it can and will render that partition useless
[20:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let's do this prior to rebooting . make sur the package manager is in a hppay state . ' sudo apt ypdate ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt-get install -f ; sudo dpkg -C ' . If all comes back positive , reboot .
[20:29] <NicoHood> I wanted to add a custom (ubuntu) keyboard shortcut whith two commands. both of them work as a single shortcut, but combined with || not. In a terminal the command works correct, seems that the key shortcut doesnt like it. any ideas why? killall hyperiond || /usr/bin/hyperiond /etc/hyperion.config.json > /tmp/hyperionlog
[20:29] <tachyondecay> bekks: OK, but it shouldn't need 120 GB
[20:29] <AlexQ> NicoHood: Because || means or, so the second will execute only if the first fails (returns non-zero value). Use ; or &&
[20:30] <mgolisch> NicoHood: i dont think that kind of stuff works, write a script with that in it and call it from your shortcut
[20:30] <mgolisch> AlexQ: that makes sense, only start thing if kill failed to kill it(its not started=
[20:30] <NicoHood> but && only works if the first was successful. I guess I am missunderstanding something here?
[20:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: it completed succesfully
[20:31] <tachyondecay> Will I be cast into the fiery pits if I _don't_ use a separate data partition and just let Ubuntu merrily write documents and photos to my Windows NTFS partition like I do on my other computer?
[20:31] <bekks> NicoHood: a && b   b is executed when a was executed successfully.
[20:31] <tachyondecay> I get that having a separate data partition is good for doing clean installs.
[20:32] <NicoHood> and how can I execute both, no matter which fails and which not?
[20:32] <AlexQ> NicoHood: Just try ; as a separator
[20:32] <AlexQ> mgolisch: Can't see how that would make sense. I think his intention is to restart that process, or start it if not already running.
[20:33] <OnTheRocks> hello
[20:33] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:33] <mgolisch> AlexQ: yeah killall will fail if its not running, so || blah would be executed then
[20:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I now reboot?
[20:33] <OnTheRocks> anybody know about nagios?
[20:33] <mgolisch> OnTheRocks: no
[20:33] <NicoHood> I also have this init.sh script. where do I need to place this with which rights? https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/blob/master/bin/hyperion.init.sh
[20:34] <bekks> OnTheRocks: a lot of people do know about nagios - but how does that help you with a particular problem?
[20:34] <OnTheRocks> i want to install plugin to monitor sftp
[20:34] <AlexQ> Any ideas abut the scroll issue, guys? It is really irritating, but can't find any answers online.
[20:35] <OnTheRocks> i fallowed the steps is this site: http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=307
[20:35] <alethes> AlexQ: When I removed resolv.conf, it stopped working. 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' works great for both wireless and USB tethering. I just rebooted the system and it's all good. Thank you very much.
[20:35] <OnTheRocks> but didnt work
[20:35] <bekks> OnTheRocks: Define "didnt work" please.
[20:36] <OnTheRocks> i am getting an error
[20:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. go ahead and reboot . Then we see where we are .
[20:36] <bekks> OnTheRocks: And we have to guess it? :)
[20:36] <AlexQ> alethes: Good then, you're welcome.
[20:36] <OnTheRocks> when i run service nagios restart
[20:36] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok, be back in a bit
[20:36] <mothership> to install something it says i need to run 'dpkg --configure -a' but when I run it, it is setting up something and just hangs on that setting task, how can fix this?
[20:36] <AlexQ> Will try to purge the synaptics package and reinstall.
[20:37] <OnTheRocks> http://snag.gy/KaU5r.jpg
[20:37] <Bashing-om> mothership: Show thge channel the errors in a pastebin .
[20:37] <bekks> OnTheRocks: So fix your config then.
[20:38] <OnTheRocks> i added this http://snag.gy/iVkJU.jpg
[20:38] <OnTheRocks> to commands.cfg
[20:39] <mothership> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MCLaE4LC it stuck on this and I cant install any other things
[20:40] <mgolisch> check the what it does
[20:40] <mgolisch> -the
[20:40] <OnTheRocks> i think its fixed now
[20:41] <globalist> mothership: can you run "apt-get -f install" and then try the dpkg-command again?
[20:41] <OnTheRocks> i have a dobt.... http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=307, in this link, this instruction command_line $USER1$/check_sftp_avail -H $HOSTADDRESS$, is to change HOSTADDRESS to ip of my server?
[20:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... Back - i looked at the installed kernels in GRUB, and there is more now... strange. 3.19.0-33-generic, 3.19.0-30-generic, 3.16.0-53-generic, 3.16.0-49-generic, and (3.16.0-30-generic x2)
[20:42] <OnTheRocks> or is to stay that way?
[20:43] <mothership> globalist, that works, thanks
[20:43] <globalist> cool! :)
[20:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: We are alive .. that is the good thing .. as to why new 3.16 kernels would be installed is a mystery to me .. should not happen (??) .// OK, so how are we on disk space now ' df -h ' ?
[20:44] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13406191/
[20:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13406191/ .
[20:45] <mothership> globalist, he is doing the setting again - http://pastebin.com/yGv3geiV even tho this is different installation
[20:46] <user___> hi guys, is it possible to see which version packages currently in 16.04 will shipped?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> the_count: Finally ! We can live with " /dev/sda6        76G   58G   15G  80% / " // OK, now back to the touchpad ... is it now functional ?
[20:46] <lotus|xenial> user___: #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <user___> ok
[20:46] <k1l> user___:  see packages.ubuntu.com. but that version switch all day since its still alpha
[20:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: So... How do we know if all other issues are resolved?? And, the touchpad is still wrong
[20:46] <mothership> it installed but at the end he still bugs about that wvdial
[20:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: I know something strange is wrong because some of my shortcuts work, others do not... I fail to understand.
[20:48] <globalist> VictoriaXOXO: I have no idea as to what exactly it means... A wild guess: It's trying to start the Samba service but it's getting overwritten since the system is shutting down... The very last post here offers a "fix" (of which I have again no idea what exactly it's doing) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242868
[20:48] <xela2244> hi, how can i change button-power option to black screen. I'm using Ubuntu GNOME
[20:51] <globalist> mothership: I take it you are trying to install chromium? did you update your sources list before trying to install?
[20:51] <VictoriaXOXO> globalist: Oh, okay. I'll bookmark it. Thanks.
[20:52] <globalist> xela2244: what exactly do you mean by "black screen"? I'm on Ubuntu Gnome as well
[20:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: Driver ?? Let's see if the touchpad is recognized ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices ' .
[20:53] <the_count> Bashing-om; It is there...
[20:53] <globalist> VictoriaXOXO: Sorry I can't be of more help! But if the system is shutting down nonetheless I think it's nothing to worry about :)
[20:53] <xela2244> globalist: I mean that screen turns off. But computer is still working
[20:54] <elichai2> Hey
[20:54] <elichai2> in ubuntu archive whats `all` version means?
[20:54] <elichai2> (I know what `amd64` and `i386` means but what `all` means?)
[20:55] <globalist> xela2244: Oh, i see! Well, I had that issue as well, but some update along the way seems to have fixed that! have you upgraded your system recently?
[20:55] <mcphail> elichai2: usually an app written in an interpreted language, so will run on any architecture (e.g. a bash script)
[20:56] <elichai2> so whats better to install? architecture specific version or `all` version?
[20:56] <xela2244> globalist: yes
[20:56] <mcphail> elichai2: there shouldn't be a choice
[20:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you think we could install a kernel the next level underneath the current one, completeley remove the current + everything, and then try reinstalling it without obstructions? Would it be possible to do something like that? See. Since the origional kernel works better for the touchpad than this one, except for the fact that it jumps around, I wonder if there is some other problem there. Or even go back even farther to something in the midd
[20:56] <elichai2> mcphail, I want to install an old package from vivid repo
[20:56] <elichai2> (I run willy)
[20:57] <the_count> elichai2: The archetecture specific version should be smaller/ more lightweight
[20:57] <elichai2> thanks
[20:58] <mcphail> elichai2: can you give an example?
[20:58] <elichai2> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/boost1.55/
[20:58] <elichai2> libboost1.55
[20:59] <mcphail> elichai2: installing a version of boost from a previous repo is a _very_ bad idea, and the files you want will be architecture specific
[20:59] <elichai2> why so bad?
[20:59] <globalist> xela2244: mh, well it doesn't really solve your issue but have you tried shutting down from the command line? there are two ways that I know of: "sudo shutdown -h now" and also "sudo systemctl -i now" (if i'm correct)
[21:00] <elichai2> I want to run a program that only works with boost1.55
[21:00] <the_count> ' sudo poweroff '
[21:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: It is a worthy thouhgt to install an earlier kernel . Maybe we do that .. I have in mind to re-install the touch pad driver .. then if still a problem generate a log file of what the driver is doing .
[21:00] <mcphail> elichai2: for a start, the c++ abi has changed from vivid to wily, and lots of apps rely on libboost. Good way to break your system. Rememebr to back up everything and be prepared for a full reinstall
[21:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: We could do that, I wouldn't know how though...
[21:00] <mgolisch> elichai2: what program?
[21:01] <elichai2> namecoin
[21:01] <globalist> xela2244: the systemctl command might not take "now" as an argument, so if it doesn't work just leave it out. and yes, like the_count said, there's also "sudo poweroff" :)
[21:02] <elichai2> mgolisch, https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Ap_conrad%3Acoins&package=namecoin-gui
[21:02] <elichai2> mcphail, have a better idea?
[21:02] <mcphail> elichai2: install vivid and use it there
[21:02] <elichai2> lol
[21:03] <mcphail> elichai2: if you want to go ahead with it, good luck and I hope it works out for you
[21:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let's try ' sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' .
[21:04] <mgolisch> hm just download the sourcepackage and build it yourself?
[21:04] <m000gle> Is there any way to prevent Ubuntu from sleeping, and/or turning off the monitor, while the screen is locked?
[21:05] <elichai2> mgolisch, that's a good idea
[21:06] <m000gle> "System Settings　> Brightness & Lock > Turn screen off when inactive for..." seems to have no effect on the the maching going to sleep with the screen locked.
[21:07] <globalist> m000gle: I'm on Ubuntu Gnome so I'm not sure how the settings are layed out in vanilla Ubuntu, but shouldn't there also be an option for Suspend and Power-Off?
[21:09] <globalist> m000gle: like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/157629/how-to-prevent-computer-from-automatically-sleeping-and-or-hibernating
[21:09] <m000gle> globalist: All options are already set to either "Do Nothing" or "Don't Suspend"
[21:11] <globalist> m000gle: Maybe the little app "Caffeine" might solve your problem? https://launchpad.net/~caffeine-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:11] <Jacruth> Hi guys, is there any way to list all the current directories without showing . and ../ in a for loop?
[21:11] <globalist> m000gle: although their ppa doesn't seem up-to-date so it might not work if you are on 15.10
[21:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was disconnected again... Any message after the command to reinstall the touchpad drivers, I did not se
[21:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: **see
[21:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Nope .. awaiting that result .
[21:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Oh...
[21:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: And now that the driver is re-installed, what is the status ?
[21:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13409426/
[21:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: I just realized that you wanted to see it
[21:14] <globalist> m000gle: here's a short video on how it works, i'm using it on a Linux Mint machine as well. You should be able to lock the screen while Caffeine keeps the system up and running once you've toggled it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKdsH2K1Ts
[21:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: No problems indicated .. does it work ( and is it turned on -> touchpad settings under System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad ) .
[21:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: It has not changed since I looked at it. So.. No
[21:18]  * Dredd :^)
[21:18]  * marika :^) :^)
[21:19] <the_count> What is happening?
[21:19] <the_count> Bashing-om; Maybe I should restart to see if changes are applied
[21:20]  * the_count <|:^()
[21:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not know .. so let's generate a log file and see what we can learn; follow : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection . You will have to install the tool "evtest" .
[21:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: And yes .. a restart with the changed driver is in order .. agreed .
[21:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: Which shall we do first?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: Restart and see if the driver now works .
[21:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing doing
[21:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; Then when all else fails ,, read the instructions. In our case generate a log file per : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection .
[21:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Restarted and still no different
[21:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I loe your attitude
[21:28] <cagatay> hack this site please x59.noip.me
[21:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: That was love, don't be trying to imageine what t could have been
[21:29] <daftykins> cagatay: no, and take that kind of chat off this network.
[21:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: lol , We are atempting to solve a puzzle ; and in that process learn an operating system .
[21:31] <only1dcb> Hey all, I'm a linux n00b, and I want to do 2 things with my new install: 1. Re-order my GRUB startup list, and 2. Install the correct Nvidia Optimus drivers for my notebook.  Is anyone up for a little guided help?
[21:32] <Hitechcg> Look up grub-customizer for the first one
[21:32] <the_count> bashing-om: i'm looking at the section for ' In case Touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc. do not work at all. '
[21:33] <Hitechcg> Do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer", "sudo apt-get update", and "sudo apt-get install grub-customizer"
[21:33] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: I did, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/ , but in following the terminal instructions I have failed to actually install the package.
[21:34] <daftykins> only1dcb: nvidia chip in use? latest nvidia package along with nvidia-prime should be all you need.
[21:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yep .. that section is my thought also .
[21:35] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What do you mean exactly? Did you get an error when trying to install it?
[21:35] <only1dcb> daftykins: I am still using the generic driver ATM.  I wanted to change up my GRUB order first.  But the package failed to install using the commands listed above, and in the tutorial I looked up.
[21:36] <daftykins> adjusting GRUB order beforehand makes zero sense
[21:36] <daftykins> in fact, what are you even referring to?
[21:36] <daftykins> dualboot and you want Windows above Ubuntu or something?
[21:37] <Bob_> hey im trying to install drivers for my wireless adapter but everytime i install and reboot the device doesnt start
[21:37] <Bob_> is there any fix for this?
[21:37] <Bob_> do i have to manually start the drivers ...
[21:37] <Hitechcg> What device, and which drivers?
[21:37] <Bob_> RTL8192CU usb-n13 wireless adapter
[21:37] <Bob_> the rtll is the chip
[21:38] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What error do you get?
[21:38] <Bob_> https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[21:38] <Bob_> using this guys drivers
[21:38] <Bob_> basically i dont see wireless at all
[21:38] <only1dcb> daftykins: Exactly.  Hitechcg: Yeah, it looks like it found the repository, downloaded the key, and attempted to install the package, but I can't find it either by GUI, or command line...
[21:39] <Bob_> it works fine until i reboot which is strange :/
[21:39] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: Standby, I'm trying to read through the terminal log to find that needle.
[21:39] <daftykins> only1dcb: wouldn't changing the default make more sense?
[21:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok.. Now what do we take a look at, those commands I enteded form the page, I am not sure as of what they do.
[21:39] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: See if you can hide join/leaves
[21:40] <only1dcb> daftykins: Possibly, like I said, I'm totally green on LINUX.  So you're going to have to be real basic w/ me.
[21:40] <daftykins> Bob_: enter the module name you installed into /etc/modules ; it'll be loaded at boot.
[21:40] <Hitechcg> That probably would've been smart for me to do (hide them), too.
[21:40] <Bashing-om> if it went according to plan, should have a file : 'ls -al ~/evtest ' . yeah ?
[21:40] <daftykins> only1dcb: no, you need to explain what you're trying to achieve with the GRUB menu :)
[21:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wait... Wait a second... ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices > ~/devices ' did not return the name of the touchpad
[21:41] <only1dcb> daftykins: I want the Win10 parition to be the default OS.
[21:41] <daftykins> only1dcb: alright; so don't follow any of that guide you linked - huge waste of time installing software to do what is already built in.
[21:41] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What IRC client are you using? Also, I'm really only moderately knowledgeable with Ubuntu. It's been over a year thoo
[21:42] <Bob_> daftykins do you know where i can find the module name
[21:42] <Bob_> also thanks for the help
[21:42] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: webchat.freenode.net
[21:42] <daftykins> Bob_: well what are you doing once it boots; to manually load it?
[21:42] <Bob_> daftykins reinstall drivers
[21:42] <daftykins> Bob_: last step of which being what?
[21:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Actually... I think we should be looking at this section: ' In case your multitouch features does not work '
[21:43] <Bob_> daftykins modprobe rtl8192cu
[21:44] <Hitechcg> only 1dcb: Go to the menu, then click Settings, then check "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS". It'll make it easier to see stuff.
[21:44] <Yehai> bazhang: still being the cunt?
[21:44] <daftykins> Bob_: so that's the module name, put just that "rtl18192cu" into /etc/modules
[21:44] <daftykins> Bob_: "sudo nano /etc/modules" ; it explains how to edit it in the headers.
[21:44] <daftykins> *header
[21:44] <Bob_> daftykins all right thanks for your help :D ill reboot
[21:45] <Bob_> yeah i put it in already
[21:45] <daftykins> only1dcb: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" -> change the default from 0 to the entry representing Windows, save and exit, run "sudo update-grub" reboot and test. simple
[21:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: And by the way, that file doesn not exist.
[21:46] <yourname1> Hi
[21:46] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: Go to the menu, then click Settings, then check "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS". It'll make it easier to see stuff. (sorry, had a space in the name so I'm not sure if it pinged you)
[21:47] <globalist> yourname1: hi!
[21:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: We need to see why the log file dies not generate . // We have s strong indication this may be a bug in the latter kernelsm but presently we do not know .
[21:48] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: Also, I'd recommend grub-customizer if you actually want to reorder the entries. It's a giant PITA to do manually. Have you tried running "grub-customizer" in terminal?
[21:48] <yourname1> globalist: how are you?
[21:49] <Hitechcg> You can also search for "grub customizer" in the dash. I noticed the article you linked to was for an old pre-Unity Ubuntu version; I think that article may have confused you.
[21:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: I do agree
[21:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: If you think this is a good stopping spot for a couple hours or less, I have some yardwork I need to get done. If we can hold this off until then.
[21:50] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: Yes, it looks like the terminal got the repository, and package, downloaded it but made some sort of error in the install,  Ergo the OS doesn't have it installed, but right now I'm trying to go with the easier method of ( daftykins: ) and just changing the default in GRUB.
[21:51] <UnArmed> If anyone is familiar with Tweetdeck in here the windows program, is there a good linux alternative that does the same thing, such as tweet notifications, etc?
[21:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Oj we can syop .. no big deal .. but check that the tool is installed ' dpkg -l evtest ' .
[21:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: * Oh we can stop .
[21:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: I did install it... It is installed for sure
[21:52] <only1dcb> daftykins: I'm in etc/defult/grub , but I do not see where in this display to find what my other partitions are to boot default into Win10...
[21:53] <EriC^^> only1dcb: type grep -i "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:53] <EriC^^> grab the part that says something similar to 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda1)
[21:54] <EriC^^> only1dcb: then sudo nano /etc/default/grub , and change the GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows ..bla blabla on /dev/sda1"
[21:54] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub and try it out
[21:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is the cat of the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415673/
[21:55]  * samthewildone yawns 
[21:55] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 15.04 here - Network Manager not saving my VPN password
[21:56] <samthewildone> zetheroo, might have to save it manually in the /etc/network/...
[21:56] <AlexQ> Hi again. I have a problem with my touchpad: scrolling works well in clean wily install, but not so well in vivid upgraded to wily. Xorg.0.log from clean wily: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13414714/ Xorg.0.log from vidid to wily: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415282/ . Identical xorg.conf (nothing about Synaptics touchpad there, only to enable intel tearfree): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415509/.
[21:56] <AlexQ> So the issue (on vivid to wily) is that in apps that support smooth scrolling (e.g. gedit) it seems that both the smooth scrolling and button emulation (4,5 I guess) is working, resulting in an extremely jittery experience. Also, there is no 'bounce' shade effect when trying to scroll further than possible. Anyone?
[21:56] <zetheroo> samthewildone: ok, but then there is a serious issue as this was working in 14.04 fine
[21:57] <int-main> I have RT3290 adapter. My Wifi says disabled by hardware switch. It used to work perfectly before.
[21:57] <int-main> Same problem as mentioned https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2nf2ky/wifi_disabled_by_hardware_switch_computer_doesnt/ Its hard blocked
[21:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: There you go, AlexQ has a problem similar to mine
[21:58] <int-main> Any idea how?
[21:58] <zetheroo> seems that Network Manager in general is a bit broken. If I delete a VPN connection it's still in the drop-down selection of VPN connections.
[21:58] <daftykins> int-main: look for a key along the function keys which Fn+that will toggle wifi being on or off; they're not always dedicated sliding buttons
[21:58] <samthewildone> zetheroo, should had check the bug reports first.
[21:59] <int-main> daftykins: that is for airplane mode and doesn't seem to do any good
[21:59] <samthewildone> zetheroo, I've been in your shoes before.
[21:59] <daftykins> int-main: sure there isn't another?
[21:59] <int-main> daftykins: 100% sure
[21:59] <only1dcb> EriC^^: I've entered the correct entry for GRUB_DEFAULT=  how do I save this, or exit appropriately?
[21:59] <int-main> I tried everything and then I had to return to Windows temporarily coz I needed Internet access
[22:00] <int-main> Whats weird is Ubuntu 15.04 used to work out of box and Wifi was functional, now it gives the same error.
[22:00] <samthewildone> zetheroo, is it something similar to this > https://askubuntu.com/questions/640009/annoying-popup-wifi-password-in-15-04
[22:00] <daftykins> int-main: sometimes a warm reboot from Windows making use of it will help leave it on; otherwise a power off, removing the mains power + battery then holding the power button for a few seconds before reassembling and booting straight into ubuntu can help
[22:00] <EriC^^> only1dcb: press ctrl+o to save
[22:00] <EriC^^> only1dcb: then ctrl+x to exit
[22:00] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: We are working a similar issue .. you might take a stroll through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection . See if you can determine a bug .
[22:01] <samthewildone> zetheroo, all I know is little annoying problems like that are linked to bugs.
[22:01] <int-main> daftykins: I didn't Dual boot. And I've tried those little tricks.
[22:01] <daftykins> int-main: i have nothing for you then
[22:02] <int-main> Looks like I've to spend rest of my life with Window
[22:02] <int-main> NOOOO!
[22:02] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: But the thing is it was broken in my vivid as well, but it seems to be perfect in cleanly installed or live wily.
[22:03] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: I tried purging xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on that upgraded system, and installing again, but didn't help. It must be connected to the upgrade thing, something must be left from vivid.
[22:03] <zetheroo> samthewildone: no. In the configuration itself where you enter the password and private key - I enter both and click Save ... but the passwords are not actually saved. Furthermore the VPN account seems to not even try to connect - I don't know if its because of the passwords not being saved or Network Manager screwing something else up ...
[22:05] <daftykins> int-main: what machine is it? make + model.
[22:06] <int-main> daftykins: HP Pavilion 15-206tx
[22:06] <zs3451> Hey
[22:06] <daftykins> int-main: is it on the latest BIOS?
[22:06] <tuomas> Hi
[22:06] <zs3451> i'm having issues with 15.10.
[22:06] <zs3451> I've just booted it off a USB
[22:06] <int-main> daftykins: No. I guess I never updated BIOS
[22:06] <only1dcb> EriC^^: Thanks for the help, it worked!.
[22:06] <zs3451> installer isn't getting past preparing to install
[22:07] <zs3451> So, I tried opening gparted, woulden't start up.
[22:07] <zs3451> tried running as root
[22:07] <daftykins> int-main: tried older kernels, since you said 15.04 did work in the past?
[22:07] <zs3451> same problem
[22:07] <EriC^^> only1dcb: great! no problem
[22:07] <int-main> daftykins: The exact same ISO worked a while ago
[22:07] <zs3451> just got an error message: Libparted
[22:07] <int-main> daftykins: Should it have anything to do with BIOS?
[22:07] <zs3451> Input/Output error during read on /dev/sda
[22:08] <only1dcb> daftykins: Okay, now that I have GRUB the way I want it, I'm looking for guidance on installing the proper Nvidia optimus drivers instead of just the generic.  This ( http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html )is what I found that looks like a decent tutorial for what I want
[22:08] <bekks> zs3451: When doing what with gparted?
[22:08] <zs3451> Just starting the program
[22:08] <daftykins> int-main: not usually, but assuming you tried my above suggestion correctly... that doesn't leave you with a lot.
[22:08] <zs3451> Ubuntu doesen't seem to be reading my IDE disk drive
[22:08] <sssa> Hello. Ubuntu backup app doesn't include .cache/dconf , .dbus and .gvfs . What's wrong?
[22:08] <int-main> daftykins: I think I should try it. There was a BIOS update but I ignored it.
[22:09] <zs3451> so i cant get past the first or second screen to format my drive in the installer
[22:09] <zs3451> i checked the "Disks" utility
[22:09] <zs3451> it shows my drive up
[22:09] <zs3451> 400 GB
[22:09] <zs3451> but I keep getting Input/Output errors.
[22:09] <zs3451> I know the drive isn't failing
[22:09] <zs3451> it just has a screwed up partition table
[22:09] <zs3451> what should I do?
[22:09] <daftykins> only1dcb: just use the ubuntu drivers GUI tool yes, ensuring it installs nvidia-prime you should be all good.
[22:09] <kubast2> Hey ,I installed ubuntu server onto kvm machine ,but I can't login through tty
[22:10] <bekks> kubast2: Why not?
[22:10] <cobordism> hello everyone.
[22:10] <kubast2> it sdoesn't react to keyboard input
[22:10] <only1dcb> daftykins: Thanks, I'll let you know if I run into problems.  :)
[22:10] <daftykins> oh i'm sure you will!
[22:11] <kubast2> While it worked just fine on install iso [15.10 ubuntu server]
[22:11] <zs3451> ;/
[22:11] <zs3451> anyone know what i should do about my drive?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Yeah .. the-count and I have also been over that route .. still with a mal functioning touchpad . We have no solution to this time .
[22:12] <bekks> zs3451: you could wipe the partition table using dd.
[22:12] <zs3451> ahh
[22:12] <zs3451> with /dev/zero?
[22:12] <zs3451> good idea bekks
[22:13] <daftykins> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=5
[22:13] <daftykins> zs3451: ^
[22:13] <cobordism> I'm stuck with a problem. An upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 failed. I could not run the upgrade manager again (error message: "cannot upgrade from 'Vivid' to 'Trusty' using this tool". Yes, you read that right). Then I tried to reboot and now I get stuck in a kernel panic. .............The next thing I did was to make a bootable usb stick for 15.04 and 15.10 and I can boot from them but wifi doesn't work. I also downloaded the correct wifi driver but I can in
[22:13] <cobordism> stall but not load(?) it on the live system so I have no internet and without internet I cannot use the live system to upgrade ubuntu, only to reinstall....
[22:13] <daftykins> probably moot though
[22:13] <kubast2> the keyboard works in grub through
[22:13] <bekks> cobordism: did you update from 14.04 to 14.10 to 15.04?
[22:13] <elisa87> do you know how I can solve this connection refused problem? I am using Ubuntu? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33849107/java-net-connectexception-connection-refused ?
[22:13] <zs3451> daftykins: It did it immediately
[22:13] <zs3451> should I be worried?
[22:14] <daftykins> zs3451: no, you wrote 5MB... why would it take a long time? :)
[22:14] <cobordism> I just used the do-release-upgrade on 14.04 and it set itself to 15.04 and then failed
[22:14] <mcphail> cobordism: you are going to have to reinstall anyway. Your situation is not recoverable
[22:14] <zs3451> hahahaha it worked
[22:14] <zs3451> Thanks guys
[22:14] <daftykins> zs3451: i'm not sure i believe you on the disk's health though, run "sudo apt install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit"
[22:14] <bekks> cobordism: Thats impossible, since a direct upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 isnt even supported.
[22:14] <AlexQ> cobordism: I would start from running apt-get autoremove ; apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:15] <zs3451> daftykins: should I do this before installing?
[22:15] <eebb> Hello! Anyone willing to help me with a "missing partition" problem? I had Ubuntu+Win7 dual boot earlier. Then I updated to Win10, and my laptop booted to "grub rescue". Then, I used "Boot Repair Disk", and I am able to boot only to Windows10. My Boot Repair Disk output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402884/.  How can I get back my Ubuntu partition? I assume it is the sda3..
[22:15] <daftykins> zs3451: yes
[22:15] <cobordism> I cannot get into the system now @AlexQ, I can only boot a live system. I can then mount the underlying filesystem and chroot and do that kind of stuff, but I cannot just use apt-get
[22:16] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: So it works well for you on clean wily install/wily live too?
[22:16] <cobordism> bekks: that's what do-release-upgrade does for 14.04 these days.
[22:16] <bekks> cobordism: Impossible.
[22:16] <kubast2> ok nvm ,the keyboard no longer dares to work on this kvm machine
[22:16] <Hitechcg> I recommend gparted. For some reason, gnome-disks seems to be a bit buggy, at least for me.
[22:16] <cobordism> so here is a question then, how do I make wifi work on a live system if I have the deb package with the driver?
[22:16] <zs3451> okay
[22:16] <AlexQ> cobordism: Why don't you just install the system first then?
[22:17] <zs3451> im setting it up now daftykins
[22:17] <daftykins> AlexQ: the commands you advised do not help given the information we were given about cobordism's situation :)
[22:17] <Hitechcg> crap I managed to not realize I was scrolled up :/
[22:17] <zs3451> do you want to see some sort of log file?
[22:17] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Not my problem but that of the_count . Yes on 14.04's utopic stack it works .. not on vivid's stack  .
[22:17] <daftykins> AlexQ: please don't suggest things when you haven't read the scenario :)
[22:18] <AlexQ> daftykins: cobordism: I forgot to ask if cobordism tried to run in recovery mode
[22:18] <zs3451> daftykins: I did it
[22:18] <zs3451> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419045/
[22:18] <daftykins> AlexQ: not gonna help a kernel panic really; please just stop
[22:19] <daftykins> zs3451: ok as it says you'll need to change it to "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX -s on | pastebinit"
[22:19] <woodpusherghd> I'm trying to install openVPN on Ubuntu desktop 14.04 and I'm running into the "invalid secrets" error when I try to connect.
[22:19] <cobordism> you can use a live system to do a system upgrade, but only if you have internet. I do not have internet, but I have a package with the correct wifi driver. Is there I way I can install the driver on the running live-system in order to get working internet?
[22:20] <bluhdz> im working with ubuntu-lxc i have the container installed and started, i just dont undertand exposing the containers to bridged adapter and giving them adress..
[22:20] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419273/
[22:20] <daftykins> zs3451: i see that brand of hard disk is one from a refurbishing company, very suspect to begin with
[22:20] <dbugger> Hi fellas. When I run "sudo pm-hibernate" the screen turns black, but the comes back again the desktop. What am I missing?
[22:20] <eebb> .. and to add to what I have written above: I am now on LiveCD, and the "parted print" command finds the partition which had Ubuntu ( 3      95.7GB  320GB   224GB   extended) but it cannot find filesystem (its blank).. Please, could someone help me to get my Ubuntu back?
[22:20] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419273/
[22:20] <zs3451> (incase you didn't see the other link)
[22:21] <AlexQ> cobordism: Is it impossible for you to get a wired connection set up temporarily?
[22:21] <kubast2> Ok reinitialized ubuntu server really quick ,I propablly did something to kvm config
[22:21] <cobordism> no.
[22:21] <daftykins> zs3451: anywho give your install a go now, it looks clean - still a refurb though
[22:21] <cobordism> but I figured out a solution using usb...
[22:21] <cobordism> wish me luck.
[22:21] <daftykins> zs3451: oh wait no, i ignored the errors at the bottom
[22:21] <AlexQ> Good luck then
[22:21] <Taora> hello everyone, I was unpacking a tar file, and my cursor froze. then I saw the warning that my disk has 0 space, which was not possible, given the free HDD space. and 'df -h' shows the correct available space,too. so I presume the ram has been used up? but then, why should unpacking tar use up the ram?
[22:22] <zs3451> daftykins: should I be worried about these errors?
[22:22] <AlexQ> Taora: Are you sure that the tar output was on the same drive that you looked at with df -h?
[22:22] <daftykins> zs3451: they do suggest it's not very happy; "dmesg | pastebinit" would be interesting to see
[22:23] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419755/
[22:24] <Taora> or is it a similar case as this one: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39722/preventing-tar-from-using-too-much-cpu-and-disk-old-laptop-crashes-if-100 ?
[22:24] <AlexQ> Taora: Was the warning an error message from tar, or a system-wide warning from GUI?
[22:24] <zs3451> I should note that on the board i'm using, it is prone to just randomly shutting off
[22:24] <Acerio> Good evening!
[22:24] <zs3451> when i use a SATA drive
[22:24] <zs3451> that's why im using an IDE drive daftykins
[22:24] <bekks> Taora: which directory were you in when running which command?
[22:25] <only1dcb> daftykins: Success!
[22:25] <nicomachus> I installed the ppa for wine1.7, but it's giving me dependencies errors when I try to install. -f install doesn't correct it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419854/
[22:25] <bluhdz> iptables for ubuntu-lxc i need a good tutorial
[22:27] <woodpusherghd> Anyone experience the "invalid secrets" error whn setting up open VPN in Network manager in ubuntu desktop 14.04?
[22:27] <zs3451> daftykins: the stuff about ext4 is probably when i was going to format but then quit the installer
[22:27] <bekks> woodpusherghd: Sounds like wrong credentials.
[22:28] <zs3451> daftykins: I don't really understand all of the output, to be completely honest.
[22:28] <brack9> Is it possible to have a single iptables rule apply to multiple hosts?  I don't see a way to do that in the manpage, but there must be some way
[22:28] <daftykins> zs3451: that's a really odd choice to make after thinking of SATA issues...
[22:28] <woodpusherghd> I double checked my password and certificaye and all seems fine.
[22:28] <zs3451> daftykins: I have 3 separate sata drives that don't work on the board
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: i'm then led to believe that it's probably the sata controller..
[22:29] <daftykins> zs3451: i don't think it's necessarily either; probably PSU related - is it old this machine?
[22:29] <daftykins> zs3451: show me an "lspci"
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: Machine is about 5 years old
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: I think it could be the PSU
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: I can't decide if it is or not
[22:30] <zs3451> daftykins: maybe you're more knowledgable and can figure it out
[22:30] <zs3451> lspci
[22:30] <zs3451> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420594/
[22:30] <daftykins> zs3451: off topic here regardless, i'd normally send folk to ##hardware but be warned , ithink they're quite unfriendly
[22:30] <daftykins> heh ah yes an nvidia chipset, felt like that was coming
[22:31] <daftykins> zs3451: you can try your install, but all those errors in dmesg? that thing is not going to work
[22:31] <zs3451> The drive has run very smoothly
[22:31] <zs3451> on arch
[22:31] <zs3451> until one day, I used the power button
[22:31] <only1dcb> daftykins: The drivers are working well.  Before I leave the channel, the driver manager had a check-box for Intel CPU firmware, is it worth using?  And finally, do you know of any decent beginners tutorials for exploring the OS, and specifically the GUI?  I have a decent one for exploring terminal already...
[22:31] <zs3451> while booting
[22:31] <zs3451> it seemed to mess up GRUB's booting process
[22:31] <daftykins> zs3451: stop pressing enter... you are spamming. i also don't need to hear its' life history
[22:32] <zs3451> Okay.
[22:32] <daftykins> only1dcb: your mouse is all you need to explore the GUI.
[22:32] <eebb> Could someone please interpret the results of "parted print" here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420750/ . The number 3, which is 'extended' contains my Ubuntu operating system.. How can I boot onto it?
[22:32] <rampantphoto> this is the first time i've ever used IRC
[22:32] <only1dcb> daftykins: lol, nice.  But seriously, thoughts on the Intel CPU firmware?
[22:33] <zs3451> daftykins: is it more likely to be a PSU failing or the actual board itself?
[22:33] <daftykins> only1dcb: be happy when things work as they are
[22:33] <daftykins> zs3451: this isn't a hardware channel, so i can't help you further
[22:33] <zs3451> daftykins: Okay. Thanks for the help you have given me :)
[22:33] <daftykins> rampantphoto: odd, swear i've seen your nickname before... ubuntu support in here or "/j #ubuntu-offtopic" to change channel and chat
[22:34] <only1dcb> daftykins: I've been given such advice from linux / unix proficient friends.  :p  Thanks again for your help, and guidance!
[22:34] <daftykins> zs3451: one thing though, that's clearly an old system so i wouldn't waste any effort on it. i see newer stuff get thrown away all the time
[22:34] <rampantphoto> sweet, ubuntu support is what i'm looking for i posted my question up on superuser but never got an answer
[22:35] <woodpusherghd> Is there a bug in gnome network manager in ubuntu desktop 14.94 causing the "invalid secrets" error in openVPN?
[22:35] <zs3451> daftykins: Thanks for the advice, i'm sorry if I caused any problems by pressing enter too much, it's just a habbit i've developed.
[22:35] <daftykins> undo it, it portrays youth, impatience and is annoying to read :)
[22:36] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: xmodmap and xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421216/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421238/
[22:36] <eebb> With which command I can see all the boot options on Ubuntu (LiveCD 11.04) ?
[22:37] <rampantphoto> let me know if this isn't the place or way to ask this but:
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> eebb  you mean 14.04?
[22:37] <rampantphoto> I've set up a headless Ubuntu box on my local network. However there seems to be an issue. If, for whatever reason, I have to power down the machine, when I turn it back on, it prompts me for a username / password. I have to physically plug in a keyboard, and type my username > return > password > return and then it continues to boot. I am unable to access the machine remotely via ssh until after I've done this. I'm wondering if
[22:37] <rampantphoto>  there's a way to remove this initial login on boot step, or if I can automatically login on boot. Thank you for your help! I've searched all over and can't seem to figure out how do do this.
[22:37] <zs3451> daftykins: well as I said you've been a good help, i'll get to installing my system now and i'll probably come back on the channel later on
[22:37] <inteus> rampantphoto: did you encrypt the whole disk?
[22:37] <zs3451> Goodbye all o/
[22:37] <eebb> MonkeyDust: This is an old CD. 11.04 is what i use.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> eebb  maybe there was a command in 11.04, but we can't tell and it's not supported here
[22:38] <Furai> What's the terminal command to switch to next keyboard layout?
[22:38] <eebb> MonkeyDust: What is the command in 14.01 then?
[22:39] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: On Vivid to Wily it was
[22:39] <hggdh> eebb: probably cat /proc/cmdline will give you it
[22:39] <inteus> rampantphoto: please reply in channel so others might also be able to help
[22:40] <eebb> MonkeyDust: I have lost my Dual-Boot Menu, and now the only option is booting to Win10. I cannot find a way to boot to my Ubuntu anymore..
[22:40] <ahmet> hi
[22:40] <Taora> hello everybody! I was unpacking a tar file, and my cursor froze. I have enough disk space. so was it because the ram was used up? I wonder if I could access my desktop if I restarted the machine. can you help me please?
[22:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: sorry, i'm also new to IRC so i'm not sure how to
[22:40] <inteus> rampantphoto: just like that! :)
[22:40] <inteus> rampantphoto: if your whole disk is encrypted, you have to enter password on boot.
[22:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: sweet, picked it up based on context right as i was typing that
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> eebb  scroll down, i'm you'll find what you need here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[22:41] <inteus> rampantphoto: best thing for a headless setup is to encrypt per user, not whole disk
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> i'm sure*
[22:41] <eebb> hggdh Thank you. This is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421976/ .. Did not look very helpful
[22:41] <rampantphoto> inteus: sweet, that's something i haven't looked into. let me do some research on that. unless you have some quick off the cuff advice as to how to find that out / do what you said
[22:41] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Thank you, I will read that
[22:42] <inteus> rampantphoto: yeah, I don't use whole disk encryption, so I'm not sure what to look for.
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> eebb  and try to get a supported ubuntu release
[22:43] <rampantphoto> inteus: np, that's what google is for. having a direction to search is super helpful
[22:43] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Are you sure the problem is connected with the synaptics driver, or even X at all? Maybe it is some gtk lib issue or sth? How does e.g. gedit decide which scrolling method to use (which even to receive, or maybe is it that only one of two event types is sent?)?
[22:43] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Can you just disable smooth scrolling?
[22:43] <inteus> rampantphoto: I've run into the issue before, was running automated stuff at boot and it wasn't moving past the encryption password issue.
[22:44] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]" means when SHUTTING DOWN?
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  careful now with the caps
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  and isnt AD a windows thing?
[22:45] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: This is a Linux box. I've never had Windows on it...
[22:45] <VictoriaXOXO> :/
[22:45] <eebb> MonkeyDust: I have the latest Ubuntu installed.. The LiveCD is just old. But I have also this Boot Repair Disk from sourgeforge (latest version). Not sure if it has latest Ubuntu or whatever Linux.
[22:46] <tachyondecay> Whoo! Got Ubuntu working on my new XPS 15 without nuking the Windows installation. Touchscreen, touchpad is all working out of the box. Amazing.
[22:46] <compdoc> VictoriaXOXO, I think thats just part of the new samba. you probably have an error at boot as well. its not setup or working
[22:46] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Do you know the requirements for a partition to the "bootable"?
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> eebb  not sure what you mean
[22:47] <VictoriaXOXO> compdoc: Oh, okay. What would be the easiest way of getting rid of it? Even if it doesn't disturb me THAT much.
[22:47] <huisk_> whats the dirrents between Ubuntu en Ubuntu Kylin?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> huisk_  kylin is chinese
[22:48] <rampantphoto> inteus: from what i can tell it's not encrypted. something to note, the password to login on boot is not the same as my password for root.
[22:48] <Seveas> huisk_: kylin focuses on the chinese user, so I'm guessing it comes with chinese as default language and has some additional packages specifically aimed at chinese users.
[22:48] <inteus> rampantphoto: is it just asking for a password? or a login name too?
[22:48] <rampantphoto> login name as well
[22:49] <inteus> huh
[22:49] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Well, I mean that is there anything wrong in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420750/, since the Ubuntu partition is the partition number 3. It does not have file system or any flags.. And the type is extended?
[22:49] <huisk_> ubuntu is that a safe OS? Better then W10? i use now U 15.10 64B
[22:49] <inteus> rampantphoto: that's not an encryption problem then. It won't let you remote into the box without logging in at the box itself?
[22:50] <rampantphoto> inteus: correct
[22:50] <inteus> rampantphoto: maybe its something with your sshd settings...I have limited knowledge about that though.
[22:50] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Away from the key board .. lemme catch up .
[22:50] <VictoriaXOXO> compdoc: Oh, okay. What would be the easiest way of getting rid of it? Even if it doesn't disturb me THAT much.
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> eebb  scroll down to <7>   http://askubuntu.com/questions/151968/what-does-the-term-extended-partition-mean-is-it-safe-to-use-this-type-of-par
[22:51] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Okay, gonna log events on this OS as well and then boot into clean wily where everything works correctly
[22:52] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: What about the xserver-xorg-input-multitouch package? I don't have that one installed (but on neither OS I think). What is it for?
[22:53] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Do I really need Samba? :/
[22:53] <baiter> u don't like samba?
[22:54] <VictoriaXOXO> baiter: No opinion. Do I need it? :P
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  shelter, food and water is all we really need ... samba is a protocol to let linux communicate with windows
[22:54] <baiter> i use it create network drive, so you can have a storage device shared in a network
[22:54] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Thank you. Really appreciate it. I will have a look.
[22:54] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Then I want to remove it. What is the proper way to delete Samba completely?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO  how did you install it?
[22:55] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: foolish.
[22:55] <Avocado_> hi ubuntu people
[22:55] <Avocado_> I just switched over to ubuntu for the first time in my life
[22:55] <Avocado_> Im digging it so far, but have some questions
[22:55] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: I never installed it.
[22:55] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Why?!
[22:55] <Na3iL> hey Avocado_ go ahead and ask :)
[22:55] <Avocado_> I made an .sh file and put it in startup applications so that it executes on boot
[22:55] <Avocado_> I wanted my monitor display to set its refresh rate at 144hz
[22:55] <Avocado_> so I put this in the sh file
[22:55] <Avocado_> xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 -r 144
[22:56] <Avocado_> when I reboot, my refresh rate is at 60.0
[22:56] <Avocado_> what do i do wrong?
[22:56] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: If you think it's foolish, then you could help me with getting rid of this error and still keep Samba. "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[22:56] <Seveas> Avocado_: that won't work. That script doesn't know which display to use, and depending one where it's executed from may not even have access to the display.
[22:57] <Avocado_> its executed from home/startup scripts
[22:57] <Avocado_> i made that folder there
[22:58] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: no, you don't use it - an error doesn't matter. you're not even sure what the error means right now.
[22:58] <Seveas> that's entirely not the point. What's executing it? An initscript? Something that runs when you login? Does it run as your user?
[22:58] <Avocado_> an sh file that i run through startup applications
[22:58] <rampantphoto> inteus: do you think it may have something to do with a profile or something as simple as that?
[22:58] <Avocado_> the internet said it would work that way
[22:58] <baiter> he said he used startup application to run it
[22:58] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Are you really going to refuse to help me because YOU don't think a error matter? :/
[22:58] <Avocado_> Ah
[22:59] <Avocado_> I see the script doesnt work
[22:59] <Avocado_> xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[22:59] <Seveas> Avocado_: what's this 'startup applications'?
[22:59] <Avocado_> its standard in ubuntu
[22:59] <Avocado_> programs that run on bootup
[22:59] <Seveas> no, they don't run on bootup
[22:59] <Seveas> they run when you log in
[22:59] <Seveas> significant difference :)
[22:59] <inteus> rampantphoto: ssh should work right after installation. I've never had to mess with the configuration.
[22:59] <Avocado_> technically right, but you know what I mean
[23:00] <bekks> Avocado_: its still not clear what you did where, exactly. Where did you create which folder?
[23:00] <baiter> Avocado_: 1. did you try setting your default resolution to 1920x1080 in settings? 2. did you test the script without startup applications? 3. does it need permissions to run?
[23:01] <Seveas> try not using --mode but --fb
[23:01] <Seveas> and if that still doesn't work, add --display=:0
[23:01] <Avocado_> 1. yes, 2. no, i see that my script doesnt work 3. yes, but i set chmod +x on it
[23:02] <rampantphoto> inteus: if my setup wasn't such a paint to move, i'd plugin a monitor to see why it's asking me for a login. is there a way after ssh-ing in to go back and read that login prompt?
[23:02] <baiter> Avocado_: first, i'd press command key + search "display"
[23:02] <inteus> you could try looking at /var/log/bootlog
[23:02] <inteus> rampantphoto: you could try looking at /var/log/bootlog
[23:03] <Avocado_> Seveas, xrandr: unrecognized option '--display=:0'
[23:03] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone know how to fix this error? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[23:03] <Seveas> Avocado_: replace the = witha single space
[23:03] <int-main> daftykins: Just tried with updated BIOS. Same :(
[23:03] <Seveas> xrandr is annoying and doesn't accept the =
[23:03] <inteus> rampantphoto: or /var/log/auth.log
[23:03] <Avocado_> Rate 144.0 Hz not available for this size
[23:03] <Avocado_> Thats weird, my monitor is 144hz
[23:04] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424150/ - vivid to wily xev, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424158/ - vivid to wily evtest
[23:04] <egggs> will the video card go that high ? avocado
[23:05] <Avocado_> yes egggs, i use it on windows too
[23:05] <Avocado_> i think i messed up the command
[23:05] <egggs> or more the drivers your are using,    i dont know just throwing out stuff
[23:05] <Avocado_> xrandr -s 1920x1080 -r 144
[23:05] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, Ubuntu uses a service initializer called Upstart which start all the services in /etc/init
[23:05] <Na3iL> So just delete the startup script there called samba-ad-dc.conf
[23:06] <Avocado_> weird, i switched to nvidia driver and suddenly i cant put my refresh rate that high
[23:06] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424150/ .
[23:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Easy enough. Thanks a lot! :D
[23:07] <Na3iL> you are welcome :)
[23:07] <rampantphoto> inteus: that definitely tells me something, just not sure what haha. thanks for the help btw
[23:08] <Avocado_> Got it to work!
[23:08] <hduser> hi all
[23:08] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: So both these files were just scrolling up and down with two fingers, didn't want to make them too large with other events. Also, the capabilities list tells the touchpad supports multitouch, obviously. I think it will be interesting to see these files generated on freshly installed willy, where scrolling works well, so rebooting there. Will be back in a sec
[23:08] <Avocado_> xrandr --output DVI-I-2 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144
[23:08] <rampantphoto> Nov 15 06:25:57 ALFHEIM CRON[21893]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[23:08] <rampantphoto> Nov 15 06:47:01 ALFHEIM CRON[22445]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[23:08] <Avocado_> this one worked
[23:08] <rampantphoto> inteus: this mean anything to you?
[23:08] <inteus> rampantphoto: can you pastebin it?
[23:08] <Avocado_> but doesnt the output "DVI-I-2" change?
[23:08] <Avocado_> like its dynamic?
[23:09] <rampantphoto> inteus: sure
[23:09] <inteus> rampantphoto: that's just stuff running in the background. That's ok.
[23:10] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: I am on clean wily now.
[23:10] <tobiasz> hello
[23:10] <AlexQ> evening tobiasz
[23:11] <rampantphoto> inteus: msg or board?
[23:11] <eebb> Anyone know how to recover Ubuntu from unallocated File system? (see image http://ibin.co/2NMnJAe4OKDZ)
[23:11] <inteus> rampantphoto: no need, those messages are about root running cron jobs in the background. those are ok
[23:11] <rampantphoto> oh ok
[23:12] <Na3iL> take a look eebb → https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[23:12] <inteus> rampantphoto: I'm baffled as to why you would have to login at the actual console instead of just ssh'ing in
[23:12] <rampantphoto> inteus: well that makes me feel better.
[23:13] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: You seem smart. Do you also know why I get notifications for almost everything (MATE), but not for when VPN disconnects or when my network disconnects?
[23:13] <eebb> Na3iL: Thanks, I will check that
[23:14] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Presently baffeled as to what is not being interpreted from where . Keep in mind there are several bug reports that are pointing the fingers at the proprietary code .
[23:14] <rampantphoto> inteus: i'm seeing a lot of "Fails password for root from ---ip---"
[23:15] <Na3iL> I tried mate for 2 months, not that professional use
[23:15] <Na3iL> but I will search for it VictoriaXOXO
[23:15] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Wooooop! :)
[23:15] <Avocado_> So I was booting up just now and suddenly I got this error message before booting up ubuntu:
[23:15] <inteus> rampantphoto: is that an ssh message in the log file?
[23:15] <Avocado_> dm_parse_tocblock(): Cannot find TOCBLOCK, database may be corrupt
[23:15] <Avocado_> i googled but couldnt find any answer
[23:15] <inteus> rampantphoto: and is that from your IP?
[23:15] <Na3iL> BTW, VictoriaXOXO is it Ubuntu MATE or just a DE?
[23:16] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Well, Ubuntu with MATE over. :P
[23:17] <rampantphoto> it's not from my ip, but when i google the ip it says it's from Korea?
[23:17] <Onepamopa> anyone got problem updating from 15.04 -> 15.10 ?
[23:17] <rampantphoto> inteus: the first result is from the anti hacker alliance haha
[23:17] <Onepamopa> few packages failed to install, after which the updater failed
[23:18] <Na3iL> You are using proxy or a manual config in your browser rampantphoto
[23:18] <BlastRed> Test
[23:18] <Na3iL> Nope Onepamopa what kind of problem you get?
[23:18] <inteus> rampantphoto: do you port forward from your router to your ubuntu? that could leave you open to the world.
[23:18] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: For me it was a disaster, but luckily managed to solve. Maybe start from checking dist-upgrade log?
[23:18] <Onepamopa> Na3iL, I'll pastebin what I can from the log.
[23:18] <rampantphoto> inteus: yes, i think so.
[23:18] <BlastRed>  Hello, i've recentely replaced my hard drive with a new one, which has w7 on it and a bunch of my ol' files. i keep getting the error "OS not found", but if i boot up my disk drive and go on linux mint, its mountable and i see all my w7 files... whats wrong with it?
[23:18] <rampantphoto> Na3il: not that i know of
[23:19] <rampantphoto> i'm quite new at this, so i'm probably making more than one mistake
[23:19] <BlastRed> (thanks Bashing-om )
[23:19] <BlastRed> +others
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> rampantphoto  type this in a termina (those are backticks, not quotes)    whois `curl ifconfig.me`
[23:19] <inteus> rampantphoto: you should use a different external port to point to internal port 22....something like 2222...makes it more secure...non-default.
[23:19] <mrrob0t> hey
[23:20] <BlastRed> Help?
[23:20] <Onepamopa> Na3iL, well, I can't copy from the "Distribution upgrade" window for some reason. Any of this logged anywhere ?
[23:20] <BlastRed>  == Cannot send to channel: ##hardware (wtf why?)
[23:20] <BlastRed> i cant say anything in the hardware channel!
[23:20] <Onepamopa> it sits on "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[23:20] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Well, the only thing I actually want to achieve is for the scrolling to work on my vivid upgraded to wily as it works on my freshly installed wily. There just has to be some different package, or config remaining from vivid there? Really no idea how to look for that? I don't know much about that stuff.
[23:21] <Na3iL> BlastRed, you ask that question in #freenode
[23:21] <BlastRed> Na3iL:  #freenode?
[23:21] <rampantphoto> MonkeyDust: ok, did that
[23:21] <Onepamopa> the failed packages: mysql-common libmysqlclient18:amd64 mysql-client-5.6 freeradius-mysql libmysqlclient-dev
[23:21] <Na3iL> and btw, the channel's owner sets the mode of channel -i That means only voices people can talk
[23:21] <BlastRed> Na3iL:  oh yeah lol my bad
[23:21] <UbuN2> got to regiter nickss in some channels BlastRed
[23:22] <Onepamopa> AlexQ, how did u manage to salvage the situation ?
[23:22] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, I am sorry but I think it is a bug
[23:22] <BlastRed> UbuN2: how do i reg for ##hardware
[23:22] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Oh, no! :(
[23:23] <inteus> !register | BlastRed
[23:23] <BlastRed> Okay, thanks
[23:23] <UbuN2> ^^
[23:24] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, I will search if anyone declared the bug in LP, meanwhile you can install directly Ubuntu MATE it is more stable as I think..
[23:24] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: Well, the worst thing for seemed to be that I had linux-generic package missing (probably my fault, I think it was removed automatically when removing something else before upgrade...) so I ended up without updated kernel, and the old one seemed  to have issues.
[23:24] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: But I would really start from checking update log. It is in a folder in /var/log/ ..., don't remember exactly.
[23:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: back
[23:25] <rampantphoto> inteus: yes, i think so. not sure how to do that off hand, but i'll look it up. thanks
[23:25] <noah> Why does the 14.04 to 15.04 upgrade fail? I have a ASUS M3A78CM Motherboard, a AMD Athlon processor, 4G of RAM and a 250G Harddisk.
[23:25] <mlvmhn> my system hangs when i run qbittorent, but not when it is not running. why is this??
[23:26] <Avocado_> how do i install google chrome on ubuntu?
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> noah  how did you upgrade? via 14.10 or a fresh install?
[23:26] <Na3iL> noah, It is not possible to upgrade directly from 14.04 to 15.04. These days a lot of people think that 15.04 is LTS.
[23:26] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: No time for that. :(
[23:26] <Na3iL> You can upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, then to 15.04. Or just make a fresh install.
[23:27] <inteus> rampantphoto: you will probably keep getting unautorized ssh attempts while port 22 is open to the internet. not a huge problem if you have very secure passwords.
[23:27] <noah> In order to install Google Chrome, you must first use apt-add-repository to add the chrome repo. Then install frome Ubuntu Software Center
[23:27] <noah> I upgraded from 14.04, not clean install.
[23:27] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Or you can just download a package from Google (64 or 32 bit one). That should add Google's repo automatically as well. You might consider Chromium as well, which is in Ubuntu repo.
[23:27] <noah> OK. I'll try that. Thanks.
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> noah  so first to 14.10 and then to 15.04?
[23:28] <Avocado_> yeah i just dled it from googles website
[23:28] <Avocado_> how do i know which repo is google's?
[23:28] <Avocado_> to do the add repo thing
[23:28] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, my humble opinion is to try more DE, I tried most of them and I am satisfied now with Awesome wm
[23:29] <AlexQ> Avocado_: I think the easiest way is to just download the .deb file. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[23:29] <Avocado_> yeah ill stick to that
[23:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: I don't know how to install them without getting all the software that comes with them.
[23:29] <noah> look it up. I did it, but I do not know the repo name. Search for "add google chrome repo ubuntu"
[23:30] <OerHeks> Avocado_, You need the deb from the google site, it installs the ppa & key
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: So.. If you are around... We could proceed
[23:30] <Na3iL> I can help you with installing them VictoriaXOXO just pick up a good DE that makes you feel comfortable :)
[23:30] <Avocado_> How do i install a deb file through terminal
[23:31] <Avocado_> if i were not to use the package manager
[23:31]  * qu 
[23:31] <Na3iL> dpkg -i example.deb
[23:31] <Na3iL> Avocado_,
[23:31] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Cinnamon without anything (!) extra would be nice. No additional software, just visual changes, please.
[23:31] <noah> use the 'dpkg' command to install a deb file from terminal
[23:31] <Avocado_> cool
[23:31] <Avocado_> what does the -i do
[23:31] <bprompt> ahemm -i "install" oddly enough
[23:31] <Na3iL> -i means install Avocado_
[23:31] <Avocado_> ahh, i feel dumb now lol
[23:32] <UbuN2> :
[23:32] <Avocado_> what about dpkg, what does that stand for?
[23:32] <noah> -i means install
[23:32] <UbuN2> :D
[23:32] <Avocado_> hard to remember a word like that
[23:32] <OerHeks> Avocado_, odd, you have the packagemanager.. why doyou ask?
[23:32] <Na3iL> Avocado_, just use man dpkg
[23:32] <Na3iL> type*
[23:32] <Avocado_> Just curious I guess
[23:32] <bprompt> Avocado_:    ahemm "d"ebian "p"ac"kg"e manager
[23:32] <noah> dpkgg is the backend to apt-get, only it works on downloaded .deb files, not internet repos
[23:33] <Avocado_> ill just remember dpkg as Download PacKaGe
[23:33] <Avocado_> well, not entirely true
[23:33] <Avocado_> de package
[23:33] <vacho> hey guys, I am installing a web server and I just deployed an ubuntu 14.04 image... I remember there are two recommended commands to run that will update everything to latest secury and stable, anyone care to help?
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> vacho  there's also #ubuntu-server
[23:33] <noah> dpkg does NOT download anything, it only works locally!
[23:33] <irc_to_new2015> sudo apt-get update?
[23:33] <Na3iL> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade vacho
[23:33] <Avocado_> noah, yeah i just realized that
[23:33] <Avocado_> noah, ignore that comment
[23:34] <the_count> vacho: ' sudo apt-get update ' and ' sudo apt-get upgrade '
[23:34] <irc_to_new2015> join #python
[23:34] <noah> Don't forget 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:34] <vacho> will upgrade upgrade it to 15.10?
[23:34] <bprompt> Avocado_:   when  you use apt-get, or the Software Center to install stuff, what they're really doing is giving you an UI, and asking dpkg to install this or that
[23:34] <Avocado_> bprompt, thanks, makes sense
[23:34] <Avocado_> What irc client do you guys recommend?
[23:35] <qu> my /etc/hosts seems useless now. i set `192.168.1.123 www.abc.com` in `hosts`, but when i `ping www.abc.com`, returns `PING kevin.com.router (120.192.83.162) 56(84) bytes of data.` Why? (lubuntu 15.10)
[23:35] <Avocado_> i want something minimal
[23:35] <OerHeks> vacho, oh boy, so you start a webserver, without basic knowledge?? good start https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[23:35] <bprompt> Avocado_:     one that you like and works for you :)
[23:35] <noah> I do not think so, but just to be safe, do not run dist-upgrade
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> Avocado_  irssi and weechat are popular
[23:35] <Na3iL> Avocado_, for me it is irssi
[23:35] <the_count> Avocado_: irssi
[23:35] <bprompt> Avocado_:    kvirc, irssi, xchat, many like hexchat, konversation, quassel, pick  your poison
[23:36] <Avocado_> Thanks!
[23:36] <noah> I am using irssi as my IRC client
[23:36] <Avocado_> So theres a way to attach a window to left and right part of the screen
[23:36] <Avocado_> but can you split it into 4 windows?
[23:36] <UbuN2> yep
[23:36] <Avocado_> whats the shortkey for that?
[23:36] <the_count> bprompt: I like that.. pick your poison
[23:36] <bprompt> hehe
[23:36] <OerHeks> Avocado_, hold win key and find out
[23:37] <vacho> thx all
[23:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: Reading bug reports in respect to touchpad .. got nowhere else to go at this point .
[23:37] <Avocado_> OEP_, ahh, I was searching for that window, thanks
[23:37] <int-main> Okay, I officially give up. Somebody explain me, if WiFi works with a particular ISO and I use it later why would it not work?
[23:37] <Na3iL> OerHeks, did you said now win key? :/
[23:37] <UbuN2> Avocado_ ==>> http://irssi.org/beginner/
[23:37] <qu> i tried lots of times, any not exists domain names (but a set in /etc/hosts) are return `120.192.83.192` when ping.
[23:38] <noah> Are you using the same ISO on the same computer?
[23:38] <OerHeks> Na3iL, win key super key, microsoft key, whatever
[23:38] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Just drag the window to the corner of the screen :D
[23:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Say we removed everything after 3.16.0-30, and went from there
[23:38] <Avocado_> if i do the drag, it will just take half of my screen
[23:38]  * OerHeks pokes Na3iL 
[23:38] <Avocado_> i want to be able to split windows in 4 small pieces
[23:38] <noah> Check the wireless switch, if it is a laptop
[23:38] <Na3iL> hahaha OerHeks I like Mod key :P
[23:38] <Avocado_> cant find the shortcut in the shortcut list
[23:39] <AlexQ> Avocado_: To the corner, not the side. Like upper or bottom 1/4 of the side
[23:39] <noah> int-main: Check the wireless switch, if it is a laptop
[23:39] <linux77537> Hi there
[23:39] <Avocado_> AlexQ, I tried, doesnt work :/
[23:39] <int-main> I don't have a wireless switch on my laptop
[23:39] <Avocado_> Is it available on ubuntu 14?
[23:39] <Acerio> Anyone here a member of Ubuntu Hardened team?
[23:39] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Thought you were talking about Ubuntu Wily. Don't know.
[23:39] <Na3iL> What you mean Avocado_ by wireless switch?
[23:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: guess i should use an ssh key...
[23:40] <Avocado_> Na3iL, You mean int-main?
[23:40] <linux77537> When I run nautilus as root from a live CD it doesnt display my HDD, why?
[23:40] <Na3iL> Yep Acerio I saw your msg in the channel
[23:40] <bprompt> !dev | AlexQ
[23:40] <bprompt> hmm   wrong alias =)
[23:40] <noah> int-main: Is it enabled in the GUI? Is the password correct? Is the kernel madule loaded? (For the latter, look into 'dmesg')
[23:41] <int-main> noah: Password? It says Wireless disabled by hardware switch. rfkill says its hard blocked.
[23:41] <linux77537> someone pls help me.
[23:41] <noah> linux77537: Is the device mounted? type 'mount' and look for your device label. That should get you started.
[23:41] <the_count> linux77527: Ask your question then.
[23:41] <linux77537> yep it shows up fine when im not root
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: So what was your aim then?
[23:42] <noah> int-main: Is this a laptop or desktop?
[23:42] <Onepamopa> AlexQ, disaster averted ... :)
[23:42] <linux77537> but when I run nautilus as root it disappears
[23:42] <bprompt> Acerio:    try maybe #ubuntu-devel
[23:42] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: Wonderful :)
[23:42] <bprompt> AlexQ:   yes, wrong alias and nick, like batting 0 for 2 =)
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> linux77537  what are you trying to do?
[23:42] <int-main> noah: Laptop
[23:42] <noah> linux77537: I don't know...
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: Haha
[23:42] <Acerio> bprompt: -b
[23:42] <linux77537> edit a file on my hdd
[23:43] <noah> int-main: are you sure there is no WiFi switch? Most laptops have them.
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> linux77537  a file in your /home?
[23:43] <the_count> int-main: What laptop do you have?
[23:43] <linux77537> yep
[23:43] <AlexQ> int-main: Some have them as fn key + a F key I believe
[23:43] <int-main> There is a toggle switch with Fn key. It doesn't help noah
[23:43] <int-main> the_count: HP 15-n206tx
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> linux77537  that file isnt owned by root
[23:43] <linux77537> then how do I edit it?
[23:43] <noah> No, I mean an actual switch on the side/front of the laptop.
[23:44] <linux77537> Ive done it before but forgot how to ?
[23:44] <rampantphoto> inteus: so, in trying to set up my ssh key i did a "ps -ef | grep sshd" and i'm not sure what i'm seeing, but could that give any insight to my original issue?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> linux77537  what type of file is it? edit it with its normal program
[23:44] <linux77537> but I cant boot into my system
[23:44] <bprompt> int-main:     many laptops have a WiFi switch or button or slider, either on the front left or right side, or on the sides, by the headphone jack or by the dvd drive bay
[23:44] <linux77537> thats why I booted up a live CD
[23:45] <int-main> bprompt: I am 100% sure mine doesn't have that
[23:45] <bprompt> int-main:    usually a push button, or a slider, and it usually has an orange or green signaling light next to it
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> linux77537  start from the beginning, what happened
[23:45] <AlexQ> int-main: Maybe try to hold this key combination for a second or two, I observed that I need to hold my physical switch in position for it to work oddly. Thought that there is a serious problem with the driver or sth, until I realised that holding for a sec helps.
[23:45] <bprompt> int-main:    could be a Fn combination as well, turning off wifi
[23:45] <noah> int-main: Try deleting the connection, restarting the computer, and try again. You will need to reenter the password.
[23:46] <the_count> int-main: On the F12 key, is there a wifi signal icon?
[23:46] <int-main> noah: You are not getting me. It doesn't show any connection. It says Wifi disabled by hardware switch. I can't do anything with Wifi its like disabled.
[23:46] <bprompt> hint:  "Wifi disabled by hardware switch."
[23:46] <bprompt> hehe
[23:46] <noah> Is the driver loaded properly?
[23:47] <int-main> noah: Kind of like http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screenshot-from-2012-08-16-210336.png
[23:47] <Avocado_> When I do a command like /whois on irssi, nothing shows up, how come?
[23:47] <bprompt> int-main:    check closely, maybe even an Fn combination, as aforementioned, the f12 sometimes, may have a light next to it, if it's orange, that means wifi is off
[23:47] <jose27> hello
[23:47] <Na3iL> Just push the button or flip the switch or use the FN-key combo to manually enable your wireless.
[23:47] <int-main> bprompt: It is indeed orange but pressing it doesn't change it color. Doesn't do anything
[23:48] <bprompt> Avocado_:     /whois nick  or /whois channel  or /who channel
[23:48] <AlexQ> int-main: So you're saying that function key combination doesn't work? Really, try holding it for a second or two instead of just pressing quickly.
[23:48] <int-main> bprompt: previosly it used to work with orange light anyway.
[23:48] <Avocado_> bprompt, I do that, it doesnt show up anything
[23:48] <bprompt> int-main:   ahhhh, so f12 light is orange, that measn wifi off :), by "hardware switch"
[23:48] <int-main> AlexQ: I have tried all sort of pressing. Quick press, hard press, long press.
[23:48] <Avocado_> where should it show it?
[23:48] <Na3iL> int-main, use your terminal rfkill list all then lsmod
[23:48] <noah> I see ... Most problems are from the kernel/driver, is there any loaded modules (run 'modprobe | grep 'wireless'. It works for me :))
[23:48] <Apteryx> Hi, I'd like to know if my ~/.profile file is supposed to be run by lightdm (at login) ?
[23:48] <the_count> int-main: So, you tried it pressing the fn key with the F* key?
[23:49] <OerHeks> Avocado_, maybe you need to register your nickname to access those tools
[23:49] <bprompt> int-main:   got an [fn] key on the keyboard? as in between the [ctrl] and the winkey?
[23:49] <Avocado_> OEP_, i am registered
[23:49] <int-main> bprompt: but as I said, I cannot do anything to change its color and previously the wifi used to work even when light was orange
[23:49] <noah> int-main: Yes
[23:49] <Apteryx> I got a bash script that is mapping buttons on a left hand mouse (using xinput) and it doesn't seem to get run, although the script is called from my ~/.profile file.
[23:49] <Avocado_> OerHeks, weird, i also ahve this with weechat
[23:49] <Avocado_> Does the result show in another window?
[23:49] <int-main> Na3iL: It works when the Wireless is soft blocked. Mine is hard blocked. I've already tried what you are saying, doesn't help
[23:49] <bprompt> int-main:    yes, we understand that, BUT, the idea of that light there on that key, is not accidental, but is for a Fn key combination to turn it on or off
[23:50] <Na3iL> Avocado_, check the 1st tab "freenode" you will see the outputs of your commands.
[23:50] <bprompt> int-main:   got an [fn] key on the keyboard? as in between the [ctrl] and the winkey?
[23:50] <Avocado_> I dont have that tab, i run irssi from terminal right?
[23:50] <int-main> bprompt: Yes. I tried combo press with Fn key too if you are gonna ask me that
[23:50] <Na3iL> Yep, Avocado_ you will find the main tab
[23:50] <noah> int-main: Try another ISO to figure out if it is the ISO or the laptop. If you cand, try to load the ISO in another computer. Do you have wireless on that one?
[23:50] <Avocado_> Its just one window and its the channel im in
[23:50] <Avocado_> no other tabs :/
[23:51] <Avocado_> I feel like im missing something
[23:51] <int-main> noah: I tried two ISOs. Two different versions.
[23:51] <Na3iL> int-main, weird!! please let me know if you found a solution!
[23:51] <bprompt> Avocado_:    then maybe irssi is not for you =), tried hexchat yet? many prefer that one
[23:51] <Avocado_> bprompt, im on hexchat, i just want to make irssi work for me
[23:51] <int-main> I am trapped with Windows and i have no idea how to solve this problem.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Avocado_: type ' /win 1 ' .. irssi by default sneds messages to thge status (win #1 ) window .
[23:51] <Acerio> bprompt: I use HexChat. Great client!
[23:51] <AlexQ> int-main: But bear in mind that if you press it again before checking, you might have switched on and then back off without realising.
[23:51] <Na3iL> +1 bprompt , try hexchat Avocado_
[23:51] <noah> int-main: Then it must be the computer :(
[23:52] <Acerio> Avocado: What is wrong about HexChat, that makes you want to migrate?
[23:52] <the_count> Avocado_: Sometimes the best way to learn something is to use it
[23:52] <Acerio> the_count: Well said.
[23:52] <noah> Bye, Everyone! Be back in 1 hour ;)
[23:52] <int-main> noah: then why would it work on Windows? Questions keep coming up.
[23:52] <Acerio> See ya noah.
[23:52] <Avocado_> the_count, I am using it atm
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> breaking and fixing things is a good way to learn
[23:52] <Acerio> Avocado_: Have you tried reading the wiki/documentation/tutorial?
[23:52] <Acerio> or messing around
[23:52] <bprompt> int-main:    HP Pavilion 15-206tx  right?
[23:53] <int-main> bprompt: thats right
[23:53] <Acerio> Avocado_: And what is wrong with HexChat anyways?
[23:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: Returning to launchpad for reading .
[23:53] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: and yes, since you're worried about a single piece of text on shutdown, i won't help :)
[23:53] <the_count> Avocado_: Well, keep using it. Learn it in and out, and by and by you will figure out all it has to offer
[23:53] <bprompt> int-main:   hmmm   yes, the [fn] key will be between the [ctrl] and winkey, check closely ->   [fn], is it there?
[23:53] <Avocado_> the_count, Ok, ill try to figure it out
[23:53] <the_count> Acerio: Thanks
[23:53] <int-main> bprompt: Yes it is.
[23:53] <Avocado_> Is there any program that lets me take screenshots of my window and auto-uploads it?
[23:53] <Avocado_> Which do you guys recommend
[23:53] <Acerio> Avocado_: Greenshot.
[23:54] <Acerio> Avocado_: Not sure if that is for Linux, it should be.
[23:54] <Avocado_> Acerio, their website is down I see.
[23:54] <bprompt> int-main:    well, there are two ctrl keys... the left one... ok... so.. .press [fn] and f12, hold [fn] and press f12, and wait, the light will turn green, meaning, wifi on
[23:54] <Na3iL> Avocado_, Shutter is a useful tool
[23:54] <Acerio> Avocado_: Oh yeah, database error. Maybe CNet has a copy, but they probably only have the Windows copy, unless you want to use wine.
[23:54] <the_count> Avocado_ Or, it would probably take just as much time to press the Print Screen button and upload it yourself
[23:55] <Avocado_> Ill try shutter
[23:55] <Acerio> Avocado_: I'm not sure if Greenshot has a Linux version, but I'm 90% sure they do.
[23:55] <int-main> bprompt: I am sorry man. I've tried those things already.
[23:55] <the_count> int-main: Take a picture of the keyboard if you could...
[23:56] <bprompt> int-main:    ok, no biggie, meaning you have "media keys" ON in bios... so, press the [f12] by itself then, and wait
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: I appreciate your efforts
[23:56] <int-main> bprompt: Tried that too.
[23:56] <Na3iL> and Avocado_ follow the 1st answer to know how to make Shutter do auto-uploads.. :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/177921/whats-a-screenshot-application-which-will-auto-upload-to-imgur
[23:57] <the_count> int-main: Have you tried holding down [f12] by itself for a while to change?
[23:57] <Avocado_> Na3iL, doesn't uploading to imgur automatically make it public?
[23:57] <Avocado_> Like, people can browse in newly uploaded images and will see it?
[23:57] <bprompt> int-main:    well, is not software, from what we can tell, so, the drivers are loaded so far we can tell, it's a hardware issue, and pretty sure is the [fn] switch, since I also have a pavillion
[23:57] <Na3iL> Yep sure Avocado_
[23:57] <Acerio> Avocado_: No, by default it should be unlisted, unless people have the URL.
[23:58] <Acerio> Avocado_: But that can be changed.
[23:58] <int-main> bprompt: I don't understand. Out of the blue it stopped working, I install Windows and Wireless is fine
[23:58] <int-main> I guess I will have to live with Windows for a while
[23:58] <bprompt> int-main:    it might take some pressing, then waiting a few a few times, but pretty sure is the [fn]+[f12] combination
[23:58] <Na3iL> You can use it anonymously Avocado_
[23:58] <Acerio> ^
[23:58] <bprompt> int-main:     so... booting in windows it works?  you didn't mention that before
[23:58] <the_count> int-main: Can you turn on and shut off wifi with the key combination in windows?
[23:59] <int-main> bprompt: I did. I said if it works fine in Windows then it isn't hardware.
[23:59] <freakyy> i wonder ... if i should install ubuntu on my hdd. ... i have an ssd but not enough room for ubuntu on it sadly ;(
[23:59] <int-main> the_count: yes. Absolutely.
[23:59] <Acerio> freakyy: Get a minimal build of Ubuntu.
[23:59] <dersand> I'm not sure where to adresss this question. But i got a lost android device, it's online and somehow has an internet connection. I'm wondering if i can set-up some SSH-server on that device by installing some app from the play store.
[23:59] <the_count> int-main: Exactly how do you do that?