[02:01] <valorie> hmmm, I don't think I'm willing to add kci wily unstable to this box, even to test kdeconnect
[09:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:19] <yofel> !testers | Plasma 5.4.3 SRU Packages in staging-plasma for wily
[11:19] <shadeslayer> enotime
[11:19] <shadeslayer> need to get sitter to finish the booze
[11:20] <yofel> they have a lower version than the ones in backports, so if you have those installed you'll need a VM or so
[11:20] <soee> it was alrady tested in wily
[11:20] <yofel> right, so I really just want someone else to do a quick check that nothing's obviously wrong
[11:20] <yofel> as the code was already tested
[11:21] <yofel> then I can copy them to /ppa
[11:27] <mparillo> yofel: on this HW I already have backports, but I just created a clean Wily 15.10 VM to generate a screenshot for Wikipedia. Will be back in 15 minutes or so
[11:27] <yofel> mparillo: you might want to do the screenshots before the update
[11:28] <yofel> 5.4.3 annoyingly messes with the branding
[11:28] <yofel> (splash and lock screen background)
[11:32] <mparillo> yofel: The screenshot is already posted. ahoneybun recommended the blank, default one, but at least we have one in the gallery.
[11:32] <yofel> ok, great, thanks
[11:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13443365/
[12:13] <marco-parillo> yofel: sudo add-apt-repository staging-plasma ?
[12:13] <yofel> marco-parillo: yes
[12:13] <yofel> marco-parillo: wait, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[12:16] <marco-parillo> 76 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:26] <marco-parillo> Upgrades completed successfully and kinfocenter reports KDE Plasma Version 5.4.3.
[12:54] <yofel> marco-parillo: thanks!
[12:54] <yofel> moving then
[13:00] <sitter> sgclark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML
[13:06] <yofel> wgrant: could you please set the disk size to ~10G for kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing and kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing ? 
[13:07] <sitter> Riddell: http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu
[13:52] <shadeslayer> sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13445096/
[14:13] <clivejo> is there any way to move the trello bot to another channel, or to turn off notifications for it?
[14:14] <yofel> clivejo: assuming you mean the CI, you don't want to know about breakage?
[14:14] <yofel> and fixes?
[14:15] <clivejo> no no, the trello alerts on Telegram
[14:15] <yofel> (note: if stuff would get fixed, we would get less notifications :P)
[14:15] <yofel> oh that
[14:15] <yofel> talk to ahoneybun
[14:15]  * yofel muted the telegram channel
[14:15] <yofel> peace
[14:16] <clivejo> I like to see what’s going on, but I don’t like it vibrating and popping up notifications every few minutes
[14:17] <clivejo> you are using the old automation ?
[14:17] <yofel> I prefer public channels, so I'm not really paying attention to telegram
[14:17] <yofel> yes
[14:17] <clivejo> how, why?
[14:18] <yofel> well, I want to get wily done, then we can do a getting-things-done-freeze for a month or so to get our workflow in order
[14:18] <clivejo> the ng tools not working?
[14:18] <yofel> dunno, git-clone-all works after I did some patching, but that's all I used so far
[14:19] <yofel> so, I kind of use both branches in parallel, depending on what I do
[14:19] <clivejo> havent seen santa in a while :/
[14:19] <yofel> me neither, but considering we already have a bunch of things, we can go from there and fix things up so they work
[14:20] <yofel> although I again curse the complete lack of test coverage of the new code :/
[14:20] <clivejo> is qa.kubuntu.co.uk working then?
[14:20] <yofel> it should
[14:21] <yofel> I did fix that to pull the automation relevant stuff from git
[14:21] <clivejo> I see frameworks 5.15 there, but no status
[14:22] <yofel> well, we have 5.15 in the archive, so the PPA is probably empty
[14:22] <yofel> the cronjobs that create the pages run whether there's something to generate or not
[14:22] <yofel> FYI: I only fixed the branch situation for plasma so far
[14:22] <clivejo> so many saved lemmings!
[14:23] <yofel> let me fix the rest (I got distracted by patching git-clone-all even more)
[14:23] <clivejo> what are you working on?
[14:24] <yofel> plasma 5.4.3 for xenial
[14:24] <clivejo> would you mine talking it out, I mean what you are doing
[14:25] <clivejo> mind
[14:25] <clivejo> might learn something :/
[14:25] <yofel> erm, let me try to remember what I did in between fixing random scripts, talking about CI branches with scarlett and harald and not getting distracted by harald being crazy
[14:27] <clivejo> I see dependency wait on kwin-dev
[14:28] <clivejo> is that part of the kwin package?
[14:28] <yofel> so, I kind of did: "fix a bug in staging-upload, fix another bug in staging-upload, fix missing xenial-branches with bash scripting and git-clone-all, run staging-upload with --nopush and --paused, upload everything, pause automation, run bash scriptery to push branches, unpause automation, fix config for the status page"
[14:29] <yofel> right, give launchpad some time, depwait is re-evaluated regularly
[14:29] <marco-parillo> Just to feed my idle curiousity, why not go straight to https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.95.php for Xenial? Does landing on 5.4.3 first reduce errors?
[14:29]  * clivejo poked it :/
[14:30] <yofel> marco-parillo: because I want to get .3 into wily, which requires xenial to have at least .3, and pushing .3 to xenial is a lot less work than pusing .95
[14:30] <yofel> we'll probably skip .95 anyway
[14:30] <yofel> other prioirties
[14:30] <yofel> I'm typing to much
[14:32] <marco-parillo> Get .3 into wily without a ppa, right?
[14:32] <clivejo> yofel: why is xenial called senial on KCI?  
[14:33] <yofel> right
[14:33] <yofel> clivejo: erm, that somehow had to do with harald and booze and more pointless stuff
[14:34] <clivejo> I see, the crazy stuff you mentioned
[14:38] <yofel> $ ./git-clone-all -r applications -w restwork/
[14:38] <yofel> Template url to clone: git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/%s/%s.git
[14:38] <yofel> Summary:
[14:38] <yofel> All packages were cloned succesfully
[14:38] <yofel> yes, all 0 packages were cloned successfully. You are not being helpful you stupid code
[14:38] <yofel> unless I broke it..
[14:38] <clivejo> 0 is a number too ;)
[14:39] <yofel> so I'm again at my point of missing test coverage
[14:46] <yofel> AAAAARGH
[14:46] <clivejo> hangover?
[14:47] <yofel> no, the automation-ng has inconsistend os.getcwd() calls all over the place *-.-
[14:47] <yofel> yields very deterministic random behavior
[14:50] <yofel> uhm, riiiight... the new tools make too many assumtions...
[14:55] <clivejo> Yippee
[14:56] <yofel> ok, so again git-clone-all is unusable for me. Back to custom shell scripting
[14:56] <clivejo> :(
[14:57] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.3-171-ge1b6c06 * Harald Sitter:  (2 files in 2 dirs)
[14:57] <pursuivant> version bump to 5.5.0 for release
[14:57] <pursuivant> also credit myself with being a top gardener
[14:57] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/e1b6c06df44d952ab57a68718d05cc065b9da0de
[14:59] <soee> yofel: why do you build 5.4.3 for xenial ? :)
[14:59] <yofel> because it's something I need to get .3 into wily
[14:59] <soee> should focus here (xenial) be on 5.5 ?
[15:00] <soee> oh so it is required step ?
[15:00] <yofel> well, probably. But we have other stuff, so we'll probably not look at 5.5 soon
[15:02] <sitter> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/muon-5.5.0.tar.xz
[15:03] <yofel> soee: for the SRU, I need to have a higher version already in dev, so pushing .3 to willy while xenial has .2 isn't allowed
[15:06] <clivejo> yofel: looks like plasma is all green now
[15:06] <yofel> well, almost
[15:07] <clivejo> plasma-desktop will go green, just needs to publish
[15:07] <clivejo> can I test these?
[15:08] <yofel> well go ahead, but I'll throw them into the archive anyway
[15:08] <clivejo> on xenial or wily?
[15:09] <yofel> xenial
[15:28] <clivejo> anyone know why when I click on the task-bar to switch windows, do I pick up a short-cut?  Especially with dolphin it seems 
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:55] <sitter> allee_, yofel: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.kde.talk/1221
[16:38] <sitter> allee_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[17:23] <clivejo> yofel sitter are you still in Munich?
[17:41] <sitter> clivejo: singing with Riddell right now
[17:41] <sitter> clivejo: you are supposed to come to fosdem I hear
[17:41] <clivejo> singing what?!?
[17:42] <clivejo> sitter: is senile the KDE codename for xenial?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> clivejo, no , it's the same meaning as genial, I think
[17:50] <clivejo> just wondering why its senile on the KCI 
[17:50] <clivejo> sitter: I dont even know what fosdem is
[18:00] <sitter> senile is senile
[18:01] <sitter> also, google fosdem
[18:01] <sitter> biggest free software conference in the world Riddell says
[18:07] <clivejo> why would I want to go there?!?
[18:09] <clivejo> has Riddell lost the ability to type?
[18:09] <Riddell> what what?
[18:09] <clivejo> LOL
[18:10] <clivejo> what are you singing?
[18:17] <Riddell> the KDE musical!
[18:18] <clivejo> :/
[18:26] <clivejo> is yofel and sgclark taking part?
[18:28] <Riddell> yofel left alas
[18:29] <Riddell> sgclark is being a diva as usual
[18:33] <sgclark> lo wut!?!
[18:33] <sgclark> lol
[18:39] <BluesKaj> clivejo, my kdeconnect phone version is 0.9e , but the latest for my pc is the 0.8 on this ppa..is the 0.9e version available for my pc anywhere else?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> https://code.launchpad.net/~vikoadi/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/
[18:51] <Riddell> alleehol: http://whirlpoolcinema.com/idee/  it's got to be done
[18:54] <lordievader> sitter, clivejo: Do I hear a FOSDEM meet up?
[18:54] <sitter> yes
[18:54] <sitter> Riddell organized a partee
[18:54] <sitter> with pizza
[18:54] <sitter> and booze
[18:54] <sitter> and whisky
[18:55] <sitter> and wine
[18:55] <Riddell> lordievader: https://community.kde.org/Promo/Events/FOSDEM/2016
[18:56] <lordievader> I'm not sure if I will be albe to help out this year. I was planning on visiting more talks.
[18:57] <lordievader> able*
[19:48] <yofel> home sweet home
[19:48] <clivejo> you missed the musical yofel?
[19:48] <yofel> looks like it :(
[19:49] <clivejo> thats a shame
[19:56] <clivejo> senile still has a lot of broken packages :(
[20:00] <clivejo> OMG an email from the IRS, I have back taxes
[20:03] <BluesKaj> usually tax revenue depts will send a letter by post/mail, not email , at least that's how it's done in Canada...however I dd receive a confirmation by email after filing my tax return online 
[20:05] <BluesKaj> clivejo, did you see my post about kdeconnect versions for the pc?
[20:05] <clivejo> I just read it
[20:06] <clivejo> Im not sure what happened with my device, I cant replicate it
[20:07] <BluesKaj> anyway that ppa doesn't have the latest 0.9e version for the desktop pc, so my kdeconnect is broken 
[20:08] <clivejo> have you tried the one in my PPA?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> didn't know you had a ppa
[20:08] <clivejo> what version of kubuntu you have?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> 16.04 and 14.04
[20:09] <BluesKaj> dual boot , no VMs here
[20:09] <clivejo> can we test your xenial one?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok i'm on it 
[20:10] <clivejo> lets grab the lastest, just a sec
[20:11] <clivejo> amd64?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> yep\
[20:12] <clivejo> can you installl this package - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/8320830/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_0.9%2Bgit20151119.2207%2B16.04-0_amd64.deb
[20:16] <BluesKaj> the deb installer it doesn't respond
[20:17] <clivejo> error message?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> letme check the logs
[20:30] <BluesKaj> clivejo, the deb installer worked after I purged the old version, but the devices still don't see each other
[20:30] <clivejo> are they on the same network?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:31] <clivejo> have you tried removed them and refreshing?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> yes, no reognititon
[20:34] <clivejo> can you load the app on your phone and try it both ways?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> yes,already did that
[20:36] <clivejo> and you are sure you are on WiFi via your phone, not mobile data?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> clivejo, yes, my data options are turned off, this phone is pay as we go , so I don't surf the net thru the cell network. It's quite expensive to do that here.
[20:39] <clivejo> then I dont know, have you a firewall on xenial?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> just the normal default ufw
[20:44] <BluesKaj> clivejo, let me switch to 14.04 to check if it works
[21:10] <BluesKaj> clivejo, ok I managed to get Xenial connected after disabling the ufw, however that converns me a little altho I've never had a breach of any kind 
[21:11] <BluesKaj> not real big on iptables rules ... suppose I should do soemresearch on it
[21:12] <BluesKaj> anyway other stuff to do now ...laters
[23:02] <wgrant> yofel: Done.
[23:23] <valorie> thanks, wgrant