| daftykins | weekend folks be crazy! :D | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| OerHeks | yeah, it must be getting colder | 00:03 |
| OerHeks | just seen that james bond movie .. | 00:03 |
| daftykins | OerHeks: what did you make of it? | 00:42 |
| OerHeks | of that bond movie ? | 00:42 |
| OerHeks | ... mwah.. it is not the bond i used to know when i was a kid, say 40 years ago | 00:42 |
| OerHeks | the story/plot was enough for a 55 minute soap | 00:43 |
| OerHeks | nice effects though.. all i miss was the music. | 00:43 |
| OerHeks | all bond movies were full of music, this one was 'dead' | 00:44 |
| daftykins | :( | 00:47 |
| daftykins | mmm, i don't really do the generic action films | 00:52 |
| OerHeks | well, my neighbour is bond fan, and a few months back, someone dumped his dvd collection when he moved out ( and other stuff), and got him the 7 first movies. | 00:56 |
| OerHeks | the other 200 dvd's i kept myself | 00:56 |
| OerHeks | :-D | 00:56 |
| OerHeks | still need a dvd player, else i need to put them on usb | 00:57 |
| daftykins | :O | 00:58 |
| daftykins | that's a lot of discs | 00:58 |
| OerHeks | i always take the curtainrails from those piles, when a newcomer arrives, i am the friendly neighbour that helped with expensive rails for free ( when i leave, i have to remove them too and fill the holes, crazy ) | 01:01 |
| OerHeks | people trow away so much, we are filthy rich but do not know it. | 01:02 |
| OerHeks | pc's .. | 01:02 |
| daftykins | very true | 01:02 |
| daftykins | certainly when someone comes in having trouble with a rubbish netbook... | 01:03 |
| OerHeks | oh got one of those, not really worth to run anymore, single core, gma 450 poulsbo .. | 01:04 |
| daftykins | yeah, they were rubbish when new :D | 01:05 |
| daftykins | was all this stuff in a skip, then? | 01:05 |
| daftykins | not sure if that word translates well | 01:05 |
| OerHeks | 207 dvd's? yes | 01:07 |
| OerHeks | every month someone moves, 100 appartments in one building. | 01:07 |
| daftykins | ah har | 01:08 |
| daftykins | big high-rise tower thing? | 01:08 |
| OerHeks | no, l shape, one side 3 floors, and my site is 6 floors high, i live top floor | 01:09 |
| OerHeks | pretty view, and from the frontdoor i can see Schiphol airport | 01:10 |
| daftykins | ooh nice! | 01:11 |
| daftykins | i don't suppose you have any images of said view? | 01:11 |
| OerHeks | https://goo.gl/maps/qt9WFYhhyT22 | 01:12 |
| OerHeks | no, no picture of schiphol, got one from early spring, say april https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/bijnaGroen.JPG | 01:15 |
| OerHeks | only when the wind comes from the east, i can hear the planes starting and landing.. but still acceptable. | 01:17 |
| OerHeks | hehe Drabber loves flowers https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/DrabberRuiktBloemetjes2014.JPG | 01:19 |
| daftykins | sorry just nipped downstairs to check on the cat :D | 01:20 |
| daftykins | ooh that's a nice bright snap :) | 01:21 |
| daftykins | i like all the little figures by the window | 01:21 |
| OerHeks | copper things, i used to collect them a lot. | 01:21 |
| OerHeks | or cupper, not sure | 01:21 |
| daftykins | copper yep for the shiny metal, mmm | 01:24 |
| pauljw | gnite all | 02:27 |
| daftykins | phew, i felt positively surrounded by them all just before | 03:03 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: You wield the sword of truth so well. | 03:15 |
| daftykins | haha, i'm being mistaken for grumpy! | 03:15 |
| Bashing-om | some people do not take the cut well :)) | 03:17 |
| daftykins | TJ-: aww you've been missing all the fun! | 03:27 |
| daftykins | have you found a time the crazies go away? :P | 03:27 |
| TJ- | morning :) | 03:27 |
| TJ- | Have you been stirring it up? | 03:28 |
| daftykins | that Victoria has been comment on my demeanour in front of the riff raff! | 03:30 |
| daftykins | *commenting | 03:30 |
| OerHeks | VictoriaXOXO is writing a book | 05:44 |
| OerHeks | or you are doing his schoolwork | 05:44 |
| TJ- | his? | 05:45 |
| TJ- | I thought it was a her from some gender based comments 'it' made a few daya ago | 05:45 |
| OerHeks | my solution was /etc/network/if-post-down.d/ >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/519920/how-to-run-an-up-script-using-network-manager-openvpn | 05:46 |
| === Metacity|uh-oh is now known as Metacity | ||
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:21 |
| TJ- | breakie time, mmm | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | hey TJ- | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: found your duocam issue yet? | 06:22 |
| TJ- | Getting closer yes | 06:23 |
| TJ- | It turns out the reason UFocus isn't enabled is that the HTC Camera code makes calls to another, separate, HTC CustomiziationManager class from a separate package which is part of the 'Sense' framework. I should be able to reverse it sufficiently to create alternate placibo classes that give the answers the Camera code expects to hear | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | ic | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ive been testing out unity8/mir on xenial yesterday | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | pretty fun :p | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | install/logout/choose mir/8 from login/use | 06:27 |
| TJ- | I cannot believe how much time that cimbakahn has wasted just making a decision! | 06:54 |
| lotuspsychje | pffft | 06:54 |
| lotuspsychje | its not ubuntu's website thats confusing, but he confuses himself lol | 06:54 |
| TJ- | Entered the channel 1 hour 10 minutes ago... amazing | 06:55 |
| TJ- | no wonder the lubuntu channel played dead when he was in there :) | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: i wish they would mention minimal is more expert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Full_install.2C_minimal_install_or_core_install.3F | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | looool | 06:57 |
| TJ- | Well, it sounds like thats what this user wants, let him have it | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | alot of chans are really dead for sure :p | 06:57 |
| TJ- | sounds like OCD/micro-manager type | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | hahaha 15.04 minmal :p and let him encounter alot of issues | 06:58 |
| TJ- | OH GAWD, I need a stiff drink else I'll explode | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lolz | 06:59 |
| lotuspsychje | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso | 07:01 |
| lotuspsychje | 40mb minimal lol | 07:01 |
| lotuspsychje | that would be a pain :p | 07:01 |
| TJ- | a few minutes until dawn so I'm going to take the dogs out | 07:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ok cheers TJ- | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | run them tired :p | 07:04 |
| TJ- | that's the plan, there's frost on the ground so shouldn't be too muddy | 07:07 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah getting colder here also | 07:07 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:58 |
| TJ- | hallooo | 09:59 |
| lordievader | Hey TJ-, how are you doing? | 09:59 |
| lordievader | Gotten your Android fixed? | 10:00 |
| TJ- | which bit was broken that you're thinking about? :S | 10:01 |
| lordievader | Yesterday you said: 21-10:48 < TJ-> fighting android decompiliation to hack a fix :) | 10:01 |
| TJ- | The M8 is fine with CM12.1 on now. What I'm tackling is enabling UFocus support | 10:01 |
| TJ- | yeah, was decompiling the HTC Camera apk to figure out what is missing for getting the application to use the 2nd camera to capture a depth map, so the UFocus will work | 10:02 |
| lordievader | That is all uncharted territory for me. | 10:03 |
| * lordievader is one of those persons who doesn't have a smart phone | 10:03 | |
| TJ- | an apk is basically a Java JAR archive, but with all the Java class files compiled into a single 'classes.dex' Dalvik VM bytecode file, so had to do dex2jar and then decompile the jar (Java class files) | 10:05 |
| lordievader | I see, interesting. | 10:07 |
| TJ- | some methods in some class files weren't able to be decompiled, and they happened to be the ones I needed to see! Sorted it eventually, with an online service using the same libraries I was using, so I must have been doing something not quite the same | 10:08 |
| lordievader | Why weren't those able to be decompiled? Some missing dependency? | 10:10 |
| TJ- | no, something in the bytecode from the dex2jar output as far as I can tell. I used http://www.decompileandroid.com and that worked. nice little project, that, too | 10:11 |
| lotuspsychje | good sunday to all | 10:17 |
| lordievader | https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-coders-worst-nightmare/answer/Mick-Stute?srid=RBKZ&share=1 | 10:18 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje | 10:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader and cfhowlett | 10:19 |
| cfhowlett | hideeho lotuspsychje | 10:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: too complicated for a sundaymorning :p | 10:25 |
| lordievader | It ain't that hard is it? It comes down to the ex-grad student poisoning the compiler that if it saw its own project it would rewrite the source and compile that instead. | 10:26 |
| TJ- | I'm amazed this so-called consultant didn't inspect the executable code; that would always be my first step when something 'strange' is happening :D | 10:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: i'm pretty sure there's a bug involving kernels and grub or so, wondering about it | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | this is my grub kernel line in /etc/default/grub | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M" | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | keeps adding that same parameter i guess | 13:07 |
| lotuspsychje | ive recently made a 15.10 iso then got error on boot, and had to press TAB and manual enter liveinstall to be able to boo the usb | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 13:07 |
| lotuspsychje | this related? | 13:07 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: oh, in the linux-image postinst script? | 13:08 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: i guess so | 13:08 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: which release is that? | 13:09 |
| EriC^^ | 14.04 | 13:09 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: oh, strange! didn't think 14.04 used the crashkernel setting. Which kernel version is latest? one of the HWE varieties? | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | there's this line in /etc/default/grub.d/kexec-tools.cfg | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="$GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT crashkernel=384M-:128M" | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | not sure if it's related | 13:11 |
| TJ- | oh, kexec-tools | 13:11 |
| EriC^^ | looks like it takes the last one and adds that? | 13:11 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: right, it's doing a simple concatenation every time grub-mkconfig is called by update-grub | 13:15 |
| TJ- | bug 1318111 | 13:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1318111 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "Adds more and more copies of ‘crashkernel=384M-:128M’ in /etc/default/grub when upgrading or reinstalling grub-pc" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1318111 | 13:16 |
| EriC^^ | hmm i tried to update-grub it's still not adding it | 13:16 |
| EriC^^ | oh ok, must be when i grub-install | 13:17 |
| TJ- | no, the code in grub-mkconfig calls it | 13:17 |
| TJ- | for x in ${sysconfdir}/default/grub.d/*.cfg ; do | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | it's not adding it though | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | yeah but it doesn't touch /etc/default/grub though right? just makes grub.cfg? | 13:17 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: it 'sources' /etc/default/grub and /etc/default/grub.d/* | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | odd it's still just 5, i tried to grub-install | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | maybe it was fixed or something | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: yeah, the line is being added to /etc/default/grub | 13:18 |
| TJ- | It shouldn't be added to /etc/default/grub | 13:19 |
| EriC^^ | let me try reinstalling kexec-tools | 13:19 |
| EriC^^ | nope still just 5 | 13:20 |
| TJ- | update-grub sources /etc/default/grub and then /etc/default/grub.d/* so anything in the later will be added/replace to anything in the former | 13:20 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: Try "bash -x /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig" to see what the script does | 13:20 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: yeah, but added to grub.cfg , not /etc/default/grub right? | 13:21 |
| EriC^^ | how's it getting added to /etc/default/grub though | 13:21 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: whatever grub-mkconfig generates is redirected to /boot/grub/grub.cfg by update-grub script | 13:21 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: not from those scripts | 13:21 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, let me try to reinstall grub package | 13:22 |
| EriC^^ | nope | 13:22 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: ok i found it | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | when i installed grub-efi-amd64 it added a 6th one | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | while installing the package it said | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | then /etc/default/grub had an extra kernel parameter | 13:24 |
| EriC^^ | TJ-: oh i see, so /etc/default/grub.d is used to generate changes in /etc/default/grub | 13:28 |
| EriC^^ | and update-grub triggers just /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d to make grub.cfg as usual | 13:29 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: no, it shouldn't, unless the content of yours is different to mine | 13:30 |
| EriC^^ | shouldn't what? | 13:30 |
| TJ- | shouldn't change /etc/default/grub | 13:31 |
| TJ- | /etc/default/grub.d/kexec-tools.cfg should just have: | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | it makes sense, there's /etc/grub.d to build grub.cfg | 13:31 |
| TJ- | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="$GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT crashkernel=384M-:128M" | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | and /etc/default/grub.d to build /etc/default/grub | 13:31 |
| TJ- | No, it doesn't build it, both files are sourced into the grub-mkconfig environment | 13:31 |
| TJ- | I've posted a fix to that bug report, anyhow | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | i modified the kexec-tools.cfg and while installing it asks whether to merge with /etc/default/grub or what | 13:33 |
| TJ- | can you pastebin that, because there's no such questions in the grub-mkconfig script | 13:33 |
| EriC^^ | it's before grub-mkconfig | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | Installing for x86_64-efi platform. | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | Installation finished. No error reported. | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | Generating grub configuration file ... | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | then it's calling grub-mkconfig | 13:34 |
| TJ- | That's the package post-inst script then, not from calling update-grub | 13:35 |
| TJ- | update-grub calls grub-mkconfig which does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13444873/ | 13:35 |
| EriC^^ | this is in the .postinst | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | for x in /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub.d/*.cfg; do | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | if [ -e "$x" ]; then | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | . "$x" | 13:37 |
| TJ- | right, same thing, sourcing the content | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 13:37 |
| TJ- | incorporates it into the script environment, then the functions later work from the various variables they find | 13:38 |
| EriC^^ | ah there's something about merging | 13:38 |
| EriC^^ | merge_debconf_into_conf "$tmp_default_grub" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX grub2/linux_cmdline | 13:38 |
| TJ- | right, that's debconf stuff | 13:40 |
| TJ- | which is part of the dpkg --configure or dpkg-reconfigure code | 13:41 |
| EriC^^ | it's in the postinst | 13:41 |
| EriC^^ | so what was the fix? is it something to modify in kexec-tools.cfg? | 13:41 |
| TJ- | Yes, I added it as a comment to that bug | 13:46 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 15:34 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 19:05 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 20:09 |
| pauljw | hi lotuspsychje | 20:23 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw | 20:23 |
| lotuspsychje | how are you mate | 20:23 |
| pauljw | doing well, you? | 20:24 |
| lotuspsychje | fine tnx | 20:24 |
| ioria | hi lotuspsychje ... it's all ok chez toi ? listening weird things .... | 20:25 |
| lotuspsychje | weird things ioria ? | 20:25 |
| ioria | in bruxelles ...... | 20:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ahhh | 20:26 |
| lotuspsychje | im in the flemish part of belgium ioria | 20:26 |
| ioria | ok..... | 20:26 |
| lotuspsychje | ioria: but lucky for you im tri-lingual :p | 20:26 |
| ioria | ^_^ | 20:26 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 20:32 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 20:33 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: ive been playing with unity8/mir on xenial | 20:33 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: after install/logout/login to unity8 and use | 20:34 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: looks like the ubuntu touch phone enlarged :p | 20:34 |
| pauljw | lotuspsychje: are touch capabilities incorporated for PC/Laptop installs | 20:42 |
| lotuspsychje | pauljw: looks like a unity-style ubuntu touch enlarged | 20:43 |
| pauljw | do you like it? | 20:43 |
| lotuspsychje | pauljw: unity8 will be on 16.10 so it will change alot | 20:43 |
| lotuspsychje | pauljw: sure its fun | 20:44 |
| pauljw | sure | 20:44 |
| pauljw | :) | 20:44 |
| lotuspsychje | nite nite | 21:34 |
| daftykins | hey everyone o/ | 22:19 |
| OerHeks | hi daftykins | 22:19 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Is back in the house. Attention on deck .. we have relief . | 22:22 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 22:22 |
| daftykins | i've just been out doing some paid work until now as it goes, so i'm quite tired from my exploits | 22:22 |
| daftykins | of all things, today i had the displeasure of rearranging someone's music collection in iTunes for Windows... >_< | 22:23 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Oh, wow, do you pick the places to relax . :) | 22:23 |
| daftykins | and earlier this evening, an AVG Internet Security product had stopped letting an elderly lady's PC from connecting to wireless networks due to the subscription having run out... ! | 22:23 |
| daftykins | lol | 22:23 |
| daftykins | now i must throw some food in the oven :D | 22:24 |
| daftykins | are we all well? | 22:24 |
| OerHeks | i am going to give the dogs their last walk for tonight, brb | 22:25 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: I wound up with a fairly descent box because of an AVG update ( user chose driver option , could not even boot a liveDVD ) . | 22:25 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: I am still trying to convince the_count that I do not know what I am doing . | 22:26 |
| daftykins | lol | 22:27 |
| daftykins | have you been tempted to tell him to clean install? | 22:28 |
| daftykins | i forget the original issue, something touchpad related? | 22:28 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Yeah .. that clean install 'bout 2 weeks past . I do not mind spending the time learning where the translations happen between the hardware and the kernel. Always open to learning - particularly so at other's expense . | 22:37 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:38 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: forgive me if this is something you had already done, but i remember that guy coming in with a synaptic driver that needed changing... it was the one i wrote up on my site, not sure if it'd apply to the_count? http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 | 22:39 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Yeah, you have the right of it .. touchpad driver issue ( maybe ?) .. look'n on your blog . | 22:42 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: I had seen that option in bug reports, As I am shooting in the dark, sure - worth a shot . | 22:44 |
| daftykins | i remember the one i linked was the touchpad worked, but the buttons beside it didn't... so it could be quite different | 22:46 |
| pauljw | time for dinner... bbl. | 23:43 |
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