[04:08] <theblazehen> maaz tell smallpox wouldn't encrypting the db not help, as the db will need to be mounted if the db is running, which it will be if it's owned?
[04:08] <Maaz> theblazehen: Got it, I'll tell smallpox on freenode
[06:17] <superfly> theblazehen: this is true. Also, security is a multi layered thing, and the more layers you implement, the more secure your data is. 
[06:17] <Symmetria> sup
[06:17] <Symmetria> :)
[06:17] <theblazehen> superfly: Exactly
[06:18] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/photos/IMG_0184.JPG <[06:19] <theblazehen> Symmetria: reddit.com/r/serverporn reddit.com/r/cableporn
[06:21] <Symmetria> lol
[06:21] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/photos/IMG_0196.JPG <[06:21] <Symmetria> ;p
[06:21] <Symmetria> lol did that to protect the fiber optics
[06:21] <theblazehen> Yeah
[06:21] <Symmetria> even if the cabling is a mess
[06:22] <Symmetria> heh those really thin white fibers are what connect me to the net
[06:22] <Symmetria> 2 x 10G :)
[06:22] <theblazehen> You don't want to see mine at home. 5 multi plugs..
[06:22] <theblazehen> Nice
[06:22] <theblazehen> All running off a single outlet...
[06:23] <Symmetria> heh I got a 32 amp breaker for my office
[06:23] <theblazehen> Nice, 16A here
[06:23] <theblazehen> You running linux on there?
[06:24] <theblazehen> Ah, 2 PCs. Running 5 displays (was 6) off a single pc
[12:11] <superfly> Hey gremble 
[12:12] <gremble> Hey superfly 
[12:12] <gremble> How are you today?
[12:12] <theblazehen> Hi gremble, superfly 
[12:13] <gremble> Hey theblazehen 
[12:13] <superfly> Hi theblazehen 
[12:13] <superfly> gremble: tired
[12:14] <superfly> And no Internet at home because my line is stuffed and Telkom needs to lay replacement cable 
[12:15] <gremble> Having to deal with statal and parastatal organisations make my bones ache
[12:22] <gremble> I need some consumer advice. My sister is going to uni next year and we need to get her a laptop. Can either of you recommend a nice midrange laptop? I can budget up to 20k
[12:27] <theblazehen> gremble: How much would you count as midrange?
[12:28] <theblazehen> http://www.wootware.co.za/dell-latitude-3550-intel-core-i5-5200u-2-2ghz-8gb-2x-4gb-1600mhz-ddr3l-1tb-5400rpm-hdd-nvida-gt-830m-15-6-full-hd-1920x1080-anti-glare-led-windows-7-professional-64bit-notebook.html Is decent, and has Intel wifi, meaning that the drivers work quite well
[12:28] <gremble> I would assume top end laptops are corporate and gaming beasts and those are like 27k+ so I would assume that anything between 10 and 20 is midrange
[12:28] <gremble> I don't trust R4000 laptops. :x
[12:29] <theblazehen> yeah, same here
[12:29] <theblazehen> http://www.wootware.co.za/dell-nbdeca004l3550emea-latitude-3550-intel-core-i5-5200u-2-2ghz-4gb-1600mhz-ddr3l-500gb-7200rpm-hdd-15-6-hd-1366x768-anti-glare-wled-backlit-windows-7-pro-notebook.html This has intel graphics (Great drivers!) Maybe get an SSD, and another 4 GB RAM?
[12:30] <theblazehen> Also has intel wifi
[12:31] <theblazehen> I'd go for the 1st one, has a full HD screen and closed source nvidia drivers work well too. 8GB ram is a plus
[12:31] <theblazehen> With 8 GB RAM there isn't much need for an ssd really
[12:32] <gremble> The first one does look very nice. She'll appreciate the fact that she'll be able to game a little bit on it
[12:32] <theblazehen> Wait, I'm guessing she runs windows.. In that case I'd still go for the first, but there are no driver troubles, and yeah that is nice as well
[12:33] <theblazehen> I currently game on my Intel HD4600 overclocked to 1.4 GHz, while it drives 5 displays.. It's *okay*
[12:33] <theblazehen> Plays fallout 3 at low
[12:33] <gremble> Yes. I haven't been able to convert her successfully :P
[12:33] <gremble> She still wants to play league of legends with her boyfriend
[12:33] <theblazehen> Using wine-staging and CSMT, perhaps 50 fps. So the intel chips aren't too bad really
[12:34] <theblazehen> Yeah, wine won't work for that
[12:38] <gremble> Thanks theblazehen. I also forgot about wootware, but I remember you told me about them already :P I made sure to bookmark the site this time
[12:38] <theblazehen> Cool :) yeah, great deals there
[12:39] <gremble> Now all I have to do is remember everything that I did in my software architecture class
[12:39] <theblazehen> hah, have fun with that!
[12:44] <gremble> Did you know that you can get a certification for doing UML?
[12:45] <theblazehen> Nope, TIL
[12:46] <gremble> I didn't know it was something that needed more than a pamphlet to teach. There are some things that you have to remeber, but it is like getting a certificate for knowing how to draw one of those "breinkaarte" from grade 5
[12:46] <theblazehen> yeah
[12:46] <gremble> http://www.omg.org/ocup-2/ :P
[12:47] <theblazehen> Awesome
[12:47] <gremble> That is why I like mathematics. It doesn't ask of me to become certified in graph theory, it just lets me do wild things to graphs
[12:48] <theblazehen> To be fair, you don't need to be certified in linux stuff either
[12:48] <gremble> You do
[12:48] <gremble> LPI certs
[12:48] <gremble> Novell certs
[12:48] <gremble> Networking certs
[12:49] <theblazehen> Well, to do it for a living, sure
[12:49] <gremble> I considered doing something in that domain, but I have a bursary for a degree, not really one for certifications
[12:49] <theblazehen> yeah
[13:18] <gremble> http://www.yegor256.com/2014/12/01/orm-offensive-anti-pattern.html This guy is incredibly angry about ORM
[13:53] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:54] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos, what's up?
[13:54] <Kilos> afternoon superfly Cryterion gremble theblazehen and of course inetpro 
[13:54] <Kilos> temperature mailny
[13:54] <Kilos> mainly
[13:55] <theblazehen> lol, true
[13:55] <Kilos> hows you theblazehen 
[13:55] <theblazehen> I'm doing alright and you?
[13:55] <Kilos> good ty
[15:33] <superfly> Kilos: ai
[15:33] <Kilos> what superfly 
[15:34] <Kilos> you left out the ! after ai!
[15:34] <superfly> You never came to the airport 
[15:36] <Kilos> aw sorry sir
[15:36] <Kilos> welcome home
[15:36] <Kilos> you forgot to tell me when you arriving
[15:36] <Kilos> hehe
[16:26] <superfly> Kilos: got back yesterday
[16:26] <superfly> I logged into IRC while at the airport, but no one was around
[16:26] <Kilos> aw sorry
[18:23] <captine> evening all
[18:24] <captine> loooong time
[18:25] <theblazehen> hey captine!
[18:25] <gremble> Hey captine 
[18:27] <captine> anyone else running 15.10 gnome edition?
[19:57] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:57] <Kilos> wb cap
[19:58] <Kilos> ai!