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dholbachgood morning07:29
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zzarrmorning :D08:51
zzarrwhen I connect a bt-keyboard/mouse I get a cursor, it's beautiful :D08:53
zzarrbut is there a way to keep the phone in landscape mode when I activate the scopes window?08:54
zzarr(it flips to portrait when I do it)08:55
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popeyzzarr, i filed a bug about that10:17
zzarrthanks popey10:39
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zzarris it possible to run X applications on the phone now? (an easy way?)12:47
mcphailzzarr: nope. Not an easy way12:53
zzarrmcphail, but it's possible with the help of a chroot, I know that :)12:57
mcphailSome of the demos look encouraging, don't they?12:59
mcphailSeems some way off from being production-ready, thoug12:59
zzarrI guess you're right, it looks so nice though13:01
zzarrdo you know if one will be able to scale applications on the phone?13:01
mcphailin what way?13:02
zzarrI mean setting a none native pixel size13:03
mcphailyou can do this already with SDL apps. Not sure whether you can do it in QML, though13:03
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mcphailI would presume Qt would be clever enogh to support it, but don't know if it is exposed through QML13:04
zzarrlike the screen on my phone is a 1152x1920 pixel, menus in firefox would be very small for a sample13:05
mcphailThe emphasis seems to be on a type of responsive design, rather than scaling13:05
zzarryes, but I meant for legacy X applications only13:05
mcphailwould be nice13:06
zzarra new modern application should be responsive13:06
mcphailzzarr: if you get a bq 4.5, you won't have to worry about these high dpi issues :)13:07
zzarrbut I already have a Meizu MX4 ;)13:07
mcphailNice :) . I'm interested to see how these X apps will work out, but would expect them to disappoint on a phone with high dpi display13:09
zzarrwhy?13:22
mcphailzzarr: Linux still doesn't handle high dpi well on the desktop, so I doubt the phone will be better13:24
zzarrWell that's why (among other things) Canonical is developing MIR ;)13:25
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davmor2ahayzen, jhodapp: open music app, select a  song, In my case Bon Jovi, Crush, It's my life.  It plays! Tap on the back button and tap on the same song, It now plays Bon Jovi, Keep the faith, Bed of roses14:58
ahayzendavmor2, from which view are you doing that?14:58
davmor2ahayzen, jhodapp: I am assuming the setup just requires song from the same artist and different albums14:59
ahayzendavmor2, and do you have shuffle enabled ?14:59
davmor2ahayzen: no that I'm aware of, but being as I am selecting a specific track I kinda expect it to play regardless14:59
davmor2ahayzen: an no shuffle is not enabled15:00
ahayzendavmor2, ok i'll try it out on the bus back, i'm just asking if shuffle was on as that could affect it :-)15:00
davmor2ahayzen: I tap on the back button again and tap on play and now it plays the song I want again, I assume it was because that song was already playing and has caused the issue15:01
davmor2jhodapp: ^  so not sure whose area it falls into15:02
davmor2ahayzen: admit it I find all the good bugs15:02
jhodappdavmor2, I'll try it a bit later, I'm in a few meetings in a row now15:03
ahayzendavmor2, yeah its interesting i'll have a play on the bus and report back :-) thanks for the find15:03
jhodappdavmor2, just keep reporting them to both myself and ahayzen and we'll figure out who's responsible...it's complex sometimes to know15:04
ahayzen:-)15:05
davmor2jhodapp: well ultimately it's all your fault now anyway right  ;)15:06
davmor2ahayzen, jhodapp: oh that's interesting I only copied part of my music folder over, so bed of roses is the first song listed in the song list so I assume it is just the first song in the list that it play so it might be jhodapp fault after all :)15:09
jhodappdavmor2, you wish! ;D15:09
ahayzencould be me, there could be a racy thing when setting the currentIndex possibly15:10
davmor2jhodapp, ahayzen: also if I go to songs, select a song so I just want that song to play, if I open queue it lists all the songs15:10
jhodappdavmor2, if you can add these things to the Trello board card as you find them, then I'll follow up with them15:11
jhodappdavmor2, yeah that's expected behavior15:11
ahayzendavmor2, its been like that since forever15:11
ahayzendavmor2, if you search for a track, then it'll just play that IIRC15:11
davmor2fair enough seems strange15:11
ahayzenuse add to queue15:11
davmor2ahayzen: I think we are talking at cross purposes, I mean open Music app, hamburger, songs, select one song, it starts to play, In the player view you have queue in the header if you tap on that then it lists all the songs, I would expect that to only list the song I selected as that is the only on in the queue15:17
ahayzendavmor2, but all the songs are in the queue ?15:18
ahayzenif you click a track any where in any model, it always appends all the tracks in the model and then plays the track you clicked15:18
ahayzen(except in the case of your bug where its not playing the one you clicked :-P)15:18
davmor2http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/phone-screenshots/video20151123_150323460.mp415:22
ahayzendavmor2, cool :-) i'll see if i can figure out whats going on15:25
davmor2ahayzen, jhodapp: I thought there was mention of single item repeat how can that be done if the entire view is imported into the queue?15:26
ahayzendavmor2, single repeat is not implemented on the music-app side yet15:27
ahayzenwe are awaiting an icon from design :-)15:27
davmor2ahayzen: ah that explains it then15:27
jhodappdavmor2, but if there was a button for it, it would instruct media-hub to simply repeat the current track15:27
ahayzenyup15:32
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davmor2jhodapp: I assume that the scopes team will need to modify things their side so that tapping on preview for an album will play all of the tracks like it used to a long time ago right?15:59
jhodappdavmor2, yes, there is a completely new music scope and video scope coming after silo 9 lands16:31
* ahayzen wonders if scopes like the soundcloud one will take advantage of the bgplaylist as well16:32
davmor2jhodapp: as per your request list of issues building up on the card on trello, biggest ones I see to date are the nasty crackle on the lockscreen when the screen dims before blanking, and the album with a single track behaviour17:00
jhodappdavmor2, crackle on the lock screen, interesting17:01
jhodappthanks for detailing them!17:01
davmor2jhodapp: only happens on lock screen doesn't happen on the unlocked device17:01
davmor2jhodapp: I'm still going though just thought I'd let you know where I was detailing them17:02
jhodappdavmor2, which device are you testing on atm?17:02
jhodappoh Arale, I see it listed17:02
davmor2jhodapp: :)17:02
jhodappdavmor2, and videos of things happening are awesome...you rock17:03
davmor2jhodapp: it was a bit too in depth to describe so the video made it nice and clear17:04
jhodappindeed17:04
jhodappdavmor2, I don't have an Arale to test with atm, so that crackle may be specific to it...will have to see if someone else can reproduce that17:04
jhodappwith Arale17:05
jhodappdavmor2, can you double check that it doesn't happen with the current stable image?17:05
davmor2jhodapp: what devices do you have I can test on one of those17:05
jhodappdavmor2, krillin, mako, flo17:06
davmor2jhodapp: fine I'll spin it up on one of those and repeat17:06
jhodappdavmor2, ok great17:06
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davmor2jhodapp: so only happens on arale so I assume a driver issue18:26
jhodappdavmor2, yeah indeed, sounds like it18:26
jhodappdavmor2, it'd be nice to get a bug filed against that in the right place18:27
jhodappnot sure what to file it against exactly18:27
davmor2jhodapp: yeap18:29
davmor2ahayzen, jhodapp: I think I'm done I don't think there are any more issues that listed in https://trello.com/c/ZbIlG7nr/2505-571-ubuntu-landing-009-qtubuntu-media-media-hub-jhodapp made some notes on the issues19:43
ahayzendavmor2, thanks :-)19:45
jhodappdavmor2, awesome thanks man!19:45
ahayzendavmor2, for "Same single track while playing if you tap back or forward will restart the song playing. (this behaviour in combination with the issue above makes for a really confusing user experience not sure what to do about this)" .. do you mean with 1 track in the queue ?19:45
ahayzenwhen you say "same single track"19:45
jhodappI'm not able to reproduce the issue that you see in the video, but I'll keep trying19:45
jhodappdavmor2, ^19:46
ahayzenjhodapp, the one in the video i was able to get, how many tracks did you have in the songs tab?19:46
jhodappahayzen, ~8519:47
ahayzenjhodapp, and did you click one *way* down the list ?19:47
jhodappnot way down, no19:47
ahayzentry that19:47
jhodappk19:47
davmor2ahayzen: yes so the way I got it was I have a single track I downloaded from an album,  You then select albums, play the track this gives you a queue with one song in it19:47
davmor2ahayzen: that is for both19:48
ahayzenyup understood i have the same19:48
jhodappdavmor2, good testing19:49
davmor2ahayzen: you then get no repeat if you let it play, but if you tap the forward and back button it repeats so it is then confusing as to why it doesn't repeat play if that makes sense19:49
ahayzenmagic19:49
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alesagerandom n00bish question about Qt: does an item's 'focus' property indicate its "shownness" on the screen?  trying to validate that something is shown without getting out my protractor22:06
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brendandalesage, but you don't even have a farm22:45
alesagebrendand, I reckon I do22:46
brendandalesage, that protractor will come in handy then22:46
alesagebrendand, one step behind you there22:46

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