[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:51] <zzarr> morning :D
[08:53] <zzarr> when I connect a bt-keyboard/mouse I get a cursor, it's beautiful :D
[08:54] <zzarr> but is there a way to keep the phone in landscape mode when I activate the scopes window?
[08:55] <zzarr> (it flips to portrait when I do it)
[10:17] <popey> zzarr, i filed a bug about that
[10:39] <zzarr> thanks popey
[12:47] <zzarr> is it possible to run X applications on the phone now? (an easy way?)
[12:53] <mcphail> zzarr: nope. Not an easy way
[12:57] <zzarr> mcphail, but it's possible with the help of a chroot, I know that :)
[12:59] <mcphail> Some of the demos look encouraging, don't they?
[12:59] <mcphail> Seems some way off from being production-ready, thoug
[13:01] <zzarr> I guess you're right, it looks so nice though
[13:01] <zzarr> do you know if one will be able to scale applications on the phone?
[13:02] <mcphail> in what way?
[13:03] <zzarr> I mean setting a none native pixel size
[13:03] <mcphail> you can do this already with SDL apps. Not sure whether you can do it in QML, though
[13:04] <mcphail> I would presume Qt would be clever enogh to support it, but don't know if it is exposed through QML
[13:05] <zzarr> like the screen on my phone is a 1152x1920 pixel, menus in firefox would be very small for a sample
[13:05] <mcphail> The emphasis seems to be on a type of responsive design, rather than scaling
[13:05] <zzarr> yes, but I meant for legacy X applications only
[13:06] <mcphail> would be nice
[13:06] <zzarr> a new modern application should be responsive
[13:07] <mcphail> zzarr: if you get a bq 4.5, you won't have to worry about these high dpi issues :)
[13:07] <zzarr> but I already have a Meizu MX4 ;)
[13:09] <mcphail> Nice :) . I'm interested to see how these X apps will work out, but would expect them to disappoint on a phone with high dpi display
[13:22] <zzarr> why?
[13:24] <mcphail> zzarr: Linux still doesn't handle high dpi well on the desktop, so I doubt the phone will be better
[13:25] <zzarr> Well that's why (among other things) Canonical is developing MIR ;)
[14:58] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: open music app, select a  song, In my case Bon Jovi, Crush, It's my life.  It plays! Tap on the back button and tap on the same song, It now plays Bon Jovi, Keep the faith, Bed of roses
[14:58] <ahayzen> davmor2, from which view are you doing that?
[14:59] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I am assuming the setup just requires song from the same artist and different albums
[14:59] <ahayzen> davmor2, and do you have shuffle enabled ?
[14:59] <davmor2> ahayzen: no that I'm aware of, but being as I am selecting a specific track I kinda expect it to play regardless
[15:00] <davmor2> ahayzen: an no shuffle is not enabled
[15:00] <ahayzen> davmor2, ok i'll try it out on the bus back, i'm just asking if shuffle was on as that could affect it :-)
[15:01] <davmor2> ahayzen: I tap on the back button again and tap on play and now it plays the song I want again, I assume it was because that song was already playing and has caused the issue
[15:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: ^  so not sure whose area it falls into
[15:02] <davmor2> ahayzen: admit it I find all the good bugs
[15:03] <jhodapp> davmor2, I'll try it a bit later, I'm in a few meetings in a row now
[15:03] <ahayzen> davmor2, yeah its interesting i'll have a play on the bus and report back :-) thanks for the find
[15:04] <jhodapp> davmor2, just keep reporting them to both myself and ahayzen and we'll figure out who's responsible...it's complex sometimes to know
[15:05] <ahayzen> :-)
[15:06] <davmor2> jhodapp: well ultimately it's all your fault now anyway right  ;)
[15:09] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: oh that's interesting I only copied part of my music folder over, so bed of roses is the first song listed in the song list so I assume it is just the first song in the list that it play so it might be jhodapp fault after all :)
[15:09] <jhodapp> davmor2, you wish! ;D
[15:10] <ahayzen> could be me, there could be a racy thing when setting the currentIndex possibly
[15:10] <davmor2> jhodapp, ahayzen: also if I go to songs, select a song so I just want that song to play, if I open queue it lists all the songs
[15:11] <jhodapp> davmor2, if you can add these things to the Trello board card as you find them, then I'll follow up with them
[15:11] <jhodapp> davmor2, yeah that's expected behavior
[15:11] <ahayzen> davmor2, its been like that since forever
[15:11] <ahayzen> davmor2, if you search for a track, then it'll just play that IIRC
[15:11] <davmor2> fair enough seems strange
[15:11] <ahayzen> use add to queue
[15:17] <davmor2> ahayzen: I think we are talking at cross purposes, I mean open Music app, hamburger, songs, select one song, it starts to play, In the player view you have queue in the header if you tap on that then it lists all the songs, I would expect that to only list the song I selected as that is the only on in the queue
[15:18] <ahayzen> davmor2, but all the songs are in the queue ?
[15:18] <ahayzen> if you click a track any where in any model, it always appends all the tracks in the model and then plays the track you clicked
[15:18] <ahayzen> (except in the case of your bug where its not playing the one you clicked :-P)
[15:22] <davmor2> http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/phone-screenshots/video20151123_150323460.mp4
[15:25] <ahayzen> davmor2, cool :-) i'll see if i can figure out whats going on
[15:26] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I thought there was mention of single item repeat how can that be done if the entire view is imported into the queue?
[15:27] <ahayzen> davmor2, single repeat is not implemented on the music-app side yet
[15:27] <ahayzen> we are awaiting an icon from design :-)
[15:27] <davmor2> ahayzen: ah that explains it then
[15:27] <jhodapp> davmor2, but if there was a button for it, it would instruct media-hub to simply repeat the current track
[15:32] <ahayzen> yup
[15:59] <davmor2> jhodapp: I assume that the scopes team will need to modify things their side so that tapping on preview for an album will play all of the tracks like it used to a long time ago right?
[16:31] <jhodapp> davmor2, yes, there is a completely new music scope and video scope coming after silo 9 lands
[16:32]  * ahayzen wonders if scopes like the soundcloud one will take advantage of the bgplaylist as well
[17:00] <davmor2> jhodapp: as per your request list of issues building up on the card on trello, biggest ones I see to date are the nasty crackle on the lockscreen when the screen dims before blanking, and the album with a single track behaviour
[17:01] <jhodapp> davmor2, crackle on the lock screen, interesting
[17:01] <jhodapp> thanks for detailing them!
[17:01] <davmor2> jhodapp: only happens on lock screen doesn't happen on the unlocked device
[17:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: I'm still going though just thought I'd let you know where I was detailing them
[17:02] <jhodapp> davmor2, which device are you testing on atm?
[17:02] <jhodapp> oh Arale, I see it listed
[17:02] <davmor2> jhodapp: :)
[17:03] <jhodapp> davmor2, and videos of things happening are awesome...you rock
[17:04] <davmor2> jhodapp: it was a bit too in depth to describe so the video made it nice and clear
[17:04] <jhodapp> indeed
[17:04] <jhodapp> davmor2, I don't have an Arale to test with atm, so that crackle may be specific to it...will have to see if someone else can reproduce that
[17:05] <jhodapp> with Arale
[17:05] <jhodapp> davmor2, can you double check that it doesn't happen with the current stable image?
[17:05] <davmor2> jhodapp: what devices do you have I can test on one of those
[17:06] <jhodapp> davmor2, krillin, mako, flo
[17:06] <davmor2> jhodapp: fine I'll spin it up on one of those and repeat
[17:06] <jhodapp> davmor2, ok great
[18:26] <davmor2> jhodapp: so only happens on arale so I assume a driver issue
[18:26] <jhodapp> davmor2, yeah indeed, sounds like it
[18:27] <jhodapp> davmor2, it'd be nice to get a bug filed against that in the right place
[18:27] <jhodapp> not sure what to file it against exactly
[18:29] <davmor2> jhodapp: yeap
[19:43] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: I think I'm done I don't think there are any more issues that listed in https://trello.com/c/ZbIlG7nr/2505-571-ubuntu-landing-009-qtubuntu-media-media-hub-jhodapp made some notes on the issues
[19:45] <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks :-)
[19:45] <jhodapp> davmor2, awesome thanks man!
[19:45] <ahayzen> davmor2, for "Same single track while playing if you tap back or forward will restart the song playing. (this behaviour in combination with the issue above makes for a really confusing user experience not sure what to do about this)" .. do you mean with 1 track in the queue ?
[19:45] <ahayzen> when you say "same single track"
[19:45] <jhodapp> I'm not able to reproduce the issue that you see in the video, but I'll keep trying
[19:46] <jhodapp> davmor2, ^
[19:46] <ahayzen> jhodapp, the one in the video i was able to get, how many tracks did you have in the songs tab?
[19:47] <jhodapp> ahayzen, ~85
[19:47] <ahayzen> jhodapp, and did you click one *way* down the list ?
[19:47] <jhodapp> not way down, no
[19:47] <ahayzen> try that
[19:47] <jhodapp> k
[19:47] <davmor2> ahayzen: yes so the way I got it was I have a single track I downloaded from an album,  You then select albums, play the track this gives you a queue with one song in it
[19:48] <davmor2> ahayzen: that is for both
[19:48] <ahayzen> yup understood i have the same
[19:49] <jhodapp> davmor2, good testing
[19:49] <davmor2> ahayzen: you then get no repeat if you let it play, but if you tap the forward and back button it repeats so it is then confusing as to why it doesn't repeat play if that makes sense
[19:49] <ahayzen> magic
[22:06] <alesage> random n00bish question about Qt: does an item's 'focus' property indicate its "shownness" on the screen?  trying to validate that something is shown without getting out my protractor
[22:45] <brendand> alesage, but you don't even have a farm
[22:46] <alesage> brendand, I reckon I do
[22:46] <brendand> alesage, that protractor will come in handy then
[22:46] <alesage> brendand, one step behind you there