=== robru is now known as robru__ === robru_ is now known as robru === maclin1 is now known as maclin === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === mhall119|fossetc is now known as mhall119 [15:01] o/ ??? all alone. [15:01] o/ [15:01] I have a feeling my chances of reaching quorum are going to be difficult this week. [15:02] what about xnox, and cyphermox, and the rest of the DMB peeps? [15:02] * xnox is here [15:02] o/ [15:02] cyphermox is around for sure, just talked with him on -devel [15:02] chiluk: weren't you applying 2 weeks ago? ;) [15:02] I pinged infinity already [15:03] sil2100: I was... but we couldn't get quorum [15:03] micahg: are you around after all? [15:03] Ah, ok [15:03] so the vote was postponed. [15:03] stgraber: poke [15:03] oh, some ocaml leftovers in NBS [15:03] That won't look good on my resume [15:05] sil2100: it happens, that was nice transition [15:05] * sil2100 promises to deal with those this week [15:06] Thanks :) [15:06] I have a feeling infinity is either asleep, on vacation or both. [15:06] oh, that might be the case [15:06] it's thanksgiving week for us Americans. [15:06] yep [15:06] cyphermox how many do you need for quorum. [15:06] 4 people [15:06] we're two right now [15:07] of course the two most important, impartial, and kind people are around [15:07] humble, too ;) [15:07] bdmurray: around? [15:08] Laney: poke poke. [15:08] * sil2100 pokes stgraber just in case [15:09] I may be able to call stgraber if necessary, but I don't have a way to reach others if not through IRC [15:10] you guys are killing me.. at this rate, I'll be applying for coredev instead of UCD... [15:10] chiluk: hehe [15:11] I wish people tried harder to make it to the meetings, but I'm often guilty of forgetting about it too. [15:11] yeah I was just making a joke.. I was fearful two weeks ago that this would happen due to the holiday here. [15:12] Isn't Adam in Canada now anyway? [15:12] doesn't mean he'd be awake. [15:12] Stephane and Adam have no excuse, it's not thanksgiving in Canada ;) [15:12] I thought the turkey-thing was only for the US guys [15:12] ;) [15:13] it is but I thought Adam was american by birth.. we bring our holidays with us wherever we go. [15:14] stgraber should be around soon [15:14] including xnox that would make 4. [15:14] * stgraber waves :) [15:15] Hey Hey! [15:15] \o/ [15:15] just need one more DMB member. [15:16] !dbm-ping [15:16] !dmb-ping [15:16] cyphermox, infinity, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [15:17] isn't there some double jeopardy clause in the by-laws such that if an applicant can't be voted on for more than one meeting they are automatically accepted? [15:17] please please... [15:17] chiluk: we can certainly do it by email [15:17] I'm here [15:17] sorry [15:17] !dmb-ping [15:17] cyphermox, infinity, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [15:17] wooHOO! [15:17] yay [15:17] full of cold [15:17] \o/ [15:18] let's get this party started. [15:18] I know you guys have more important things to do. [15:18] micah's turn to chair but he's not around. stgraber can you do it? [15:19] * xnox is confused if we have all or not. [15:19] yup [15:19] all what? [15:19] xnox: we have quorum [15:20] #startmeeting DMB meeting [15:20] Meeting started Mon Nov 23 15:20:04 2015 UTC. The chair is stgraber. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:20] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: [15:20] 4 DMB members, as I recall [15:20] cyphermox, cool. [15:21] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [15:21] Laney to start an onboarding page for new dmb members [15:21] Laney: has that been done or should we carry this one over? [15:22] I did it [15:22] I mailed a link to the list asking for comments [15:22] didn't get any [15:22] can you share the link here for the minutes/ [15:22] * xnox does not recall.... =( [15:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase [15:23] * cyphermox searches [15:23] oh yeah, just found the e-mail [15:23] Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:52:51 +0100 [15:23] DMB members who didn't consent to fill in feedback to Noskcaj [15:26] * xnox ducks [15:26] I think we need to keep this one as I'm not seeing evidence that this happened :) [15:26] yes [15:26] #topic Confirm whether we grant membership for uploaders by default === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Confirm whether we grant membership for uploaders by default [15:26] last meeting we converged to the following: if one wants membership one should apply as contributing developer, motu, or core-dev. [15:27] per-package(set) uploaders do not assume membership. [15:27] erm [15:27] Laney: we had some discussion about this at the last meeting but it seemed like we couldn't quite get to an agreement [15:27] you decided to change the criteria? [15:27] if one wants PPU + membership, one should explicitely apply for PPU+contributing developer. [15:27] oh geez [15:27] Laney, yeah, this is summary of a (new) opinion, some board members had. [15:28] i.e. myself and (micahg?!) can't remember now. [15:28] could we perhaps move ahead to voting on this proposition, or decide to amend it? [15:28] yeah, we can vote but by the sounds of it, it won't pass [15:29] which won't pass? ;) [15:29] we're only 4 around, if we don't get 4 +1s it'll fail [15:29] right [15:29] we can vote as is. I will vote -1 on "grant membership for uploaders by default". And say that there is already mechanism for that -> contributing developer. [15:29] i can be convinced that i'm being illogical =) [15:29] the proposal on the agenda is to by default assume that PPU means membership unless we decide otherwise [15:29] well, then it needs to be amended, and we probably should take this to email instead so everyone can bring up their points [15:29] and that e.g. contributing member -> is membership without any upload rights, and that membership is needed for uploading anything. [15:30] It's too much of a burden to assume that people will understand this, and doesn't make sense to make the DMB explicitly make this determination fro every application [15:30] whatever [15:30] doesn't it kind of involve sustained contributions at least to even be considered for PPU? [15:30] I agree with Laney, it's way easier for us to determine when someone shouldn't be getting membership and make it clear then rather than require EVERYONE to request both [15:31] in which case Laney's proposition is simple and straightforward [15:31] oh, if we grant it when people are eligble, that makes sense. [15:32] and it's up to us to be diligent, and say "yeah cool you can upload but no membership yet, come back for it" that sounds sensible. [15:32] xnox: sounds to me like that is what Laney means :) [15:32] i guess at each PPU grant, we do a second mini-vote whether or not to grant membership too? [15:32] No [15:32] why would we do that, instead of granting contributing developer? [15:33] I wouldn't even bother [15:33] You just have the vote in the negative case [15:33] in most cases it is implied [15:33] to PPUs, when PPUs apply, and are eligible for membership? [15:33] it really hardly ever comes up in practie [15:33] practice [15:33] so it's not sensible to put the burden on the normal case [15:33] "This does not happen automatically - they must be added to the ~ubuntu-dev team." -> can we not add people to contributing developer instead? [15:34] * xnox ponders if we should move on to email. [15:34] ucd isn't in ubuntu-dev [15:36] I'm only happy moving to email if people will actually reply. :) [15:36] ubuntu-dev is only for Ubuntu members who have upload rights, so being in UCD doesn't get you that [15:36] stgraber, ack. [15:36] it gets you bug control and other teams that UCD doesn't [15:37] because UCD is just membership [15:37] i see. [15:37] we can also vote for it now and then you can get the rest of the members to vote on the list, may be enough to have this pass [15:38] OK [15:38] #vote Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)? [15:38] Please vote on: Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)? [15:38] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [15:38] +1 [15:38] +1 received from xnox [15:38] +1 [15:38] +1 received from stgraber [15:38] +1 [15:38] +1 received from cyphermox [15:38] +1 [15:38] +1 received from Laney [15:38] nice [15:38] #endvote [15:38] Voting ended on: Do we grant Ubuntu membership by default for PPUs (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-August/000815.html)? [15:38] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [15:38] Motion carried [15:38] there, done :) [15:39] Laney: is there any documentation we need updating? [15:39] well, it's the status quo, so no [15:39] in theory [15:39] stgraber, i guess XXX needs removal from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase under teams to add uploaders to [15:39] ah [15:39] I was just going to say that I should add this somewhere [15:40] OK let me edit that [15:40] cool [15:40] #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications [15:40] that ubuntu-uploaders sentence is utter lies [15:40] * Laney fixes that too [15:41] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html [15:42] Laney: ok, so this item is just about adding a new package set for the ubuntu qt stuff and adding a few more packages to the existing qt set? [15:43] qt5 set today: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/qt5 === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [15:43] I think so [15:43] because they don't fit the description there [15:44] ok, should we just vote on this then, seems pretty straightforward to me [15:44] Probably, just want to know what a Qt package is [15:44] anything which build-depends on qt at all? [15:45] seems wrong [15:45] * xnox 'd just update qt5 packageset description to include all qt5* base stuff, irrespective of origin. [15:45] plus it probably should be unity8-desktop as a name or something to the effect that it's unity8 things, not necessarily qt [15:45] proposed description is: [15:45] Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the [15:45] upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers [15:46] right [15:46] so not all rdepends of qt, more like tight version rdepends (due to private symbols) [15:46] sounds good. and just stick that as ".. and" into qt5 package set, and update the lot. [15:46] proposed set of package is: [15:46] appmenu-qt5 ciborium fcitx-qt5 gsettings-qt maliit-framework oxide-qt [15:46] qtmir qtmir-gles qtubuntu qtubuntu-gles qtvideo-node ubuntu-ui-toolkit [15:46] ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles unity8 webbrowser-app [15:46] except I can see more people wanting to upload these packages in the future, and things being added that might not be qt5 [15:47] existing uploaders know how to upload those, as far as I remember. Or have been co-operating with "private ubuntu qt5" uploads in the past (~kubuntu-dev) [15:47] on top of that, all these packages usually go through the CI train, not usually direct uploads [15:48] (or, at least most of them, possibly exception being fcitx-qt5 and gsettings-qt [15:48] * xnox sides at making timo core-dev, and stop adding new qt packagesets or packages, and then timo can be go to person for ci landing of those components ;-) [15:48] the proposed set name and description don't specifically mention qt5, just says ubuntu specific stuff using private qt symbols, so typically ubuntu sdk and related libs, with unity8 being a special one [15:49] stgraber: there's lots of stuff surrounding that current set that are make with go, and so don't have any qt symbols [15:49] or at least, that was my understanding [15:50] I mostly just don't like the qt/using qt headers being a criteria for a packageset, I guess [15:50] Mirv wants to try for core-dev, but said he'll do it after I become a core-dev first [15:50] Soooo... just saying.. you know... [15:50] ;) [15:50] vote or not, and then move on? [15:50] sil2100, i shall not be peer pressured. [15:51] * Laney watches money slide under the table [15:51] I'm not implying anything! My intentions are as clear as mountain water [15:51] * sil2100 goes quiet now [15:52] I'm happy to vote this [15:52] cyphermox: the static go stuff would never be in that set because if statically built (instead of using cgo), you won't need rebuild/changing when private symbols change in the archive, since it bundles its own copy [15:52] #vote Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:52] Please vote on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:52] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [15:52] stgraber: I'm saying by this that it feels to specific [15:52] +1 [15:52] +1 received from stgraber [15:52] I'd be happy to amend this by mail [15:52] it's not the best [15:52] +1 [15:52] +1 received from Laney [15:52] +0. seems to specific to me, but I won't block if everyone agrees already. [15:52] +0. seems to specific to me, but I won't block if everyone agrees already. received from cyphermox [15:52] cyphermox: I like too specific, it's easier to make it less specific than more specific later :) [15:53] +1 [15:53] +1 received from xnox [15:53] I'd rather fewer random packagesets for random things [15:53] #endvote [15:53] Voting ended on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:53] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 [15:53] Motion carried [15:53] ^ motion carried [15:53] false [15:53] yeah, that's wrong [15:53] deferred to email [15:53] true. [15:53] no, consider it fine for me tbh [15:53] or next meeting [15:53] then you need to vote +1 :P [15:54] did you not read what was next to +0? ;) [15:54] we have quorum, and we only need to have possitive outcome. [15:54] let's move on [15:54] ffs [15:54] we need quorum and 4 +1s to have a motion pass, this wasn't the case here [15:55] so if cyphermox feels like +1ing instead, we can re-vote, otherwise this is moving to ML to get the remaining votes [15:55] arf [15:55] sure, let's quickly revote [15:55] #vote Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:55] Please vote on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:55] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [15:55] +1 [15:55] +1 received from stgraber [15:55] +1 [15:55] +1 received from cyphermox [15:55] +1 [15:55] +1 received from xnox [15:55] +1 [15:55] +1 received from Laney [15:56] haha [15:56] #endvote [15:56] Voting ended on: Create a new ubuntu-qt-packages packageset with description "Qt packages used by Ubuntu not originating from the upstream Qt project but using Qt private headers" [15:56] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [15:56] Motion carried [15:56] thanks! [15:56] there we go :) [15:56] thar. [15:56] #action stgraber to implement changes listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html [15:56] ACTION: stgraber to implement changes listed in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2015-October/000856.html [15:56] #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications [15:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/chiluk [15:56] chiluk: still around? [15:57] yes.. [15:57] can you give us a quick intro on who you are and what you've been doing? [15:57] I know chiluk, he definitely did not bribe me to +1. [15:57] hah. [15:57] I know chiluk, he definitely did not bribe me to +1. [15:57] Alright, well I work for Canonical on sustaining old releases. [15:58] mostly for paying customers, but I do my best to get out on public launchpad as often as I can. [15:58] as such my work is very scatter-brained and unfocussed. [15:58] I'm not requesting PPU for that reason. [15:58] sounds like everyone's ready to vote already so let's do it then :) [15:59] there are very few packages that I will ever touch twice. [15:59] hah. [15:59] #startvote UCD for chiluk [15:59] alright guys. [15:59] #vote UCD for chiluk [15:59] Please vote on: UCD for chiluk [15:59] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from stgraber [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from cyphermox [15:59] +! [15:59] 1!! [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from Laney [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from xnox [15:59] PLUS BANG [15:59] someone should -1 for infinity [15:59] #endvote [15:59] Voting ended on: UCD for chiluk [15:59] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [15:59] Motion carried [15:59] Man, I should have brought screwdrivers with me to the sprint too... [15:59] sil2100: why when, I live in town. [16:00] chiluk: my only request would be for you to fix https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5.2 [16:00] oh, is that how you bribed cyphermox? :) [16:00] cyphermox, yeah I'm on that. [16:00] cyphermox, the test never ran before my upload. [16:00] stgraber: nah, there was no alcohol, just tools. [16:00] now it's being run and failing [16:00] chiluk, fyi have you seen https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5.2 ? =) [16:00] although it only fails ont eh buildds. [16:01] yeah I've been looking into it. [16:01] rightyoh. [16:01] the test that fails was never getting run before because df couldn't read the mount table, and would thus skip the test. [16:01] #topic Ubuntu Core Developer application for Łukasz Zemczak === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Core Developer application for Łukasz Zemczak [16:01] so it works better. [16:01] chiluk, "Kernel version: Linux lgw01-46 3.19.0-33-generic #38~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:17:28 UTC 2015 x86_64" =) [16:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaszZemczak/CoreDeveloperApplication [16:01] o/ [16:01] good, you're still around :) [16:02] * chiluk goes to figure out how to get ubuntu business cards for conferences. [16:02] sil2100: can you introduce yourself, what you're working on and why you'd like to become a core developer? [16:02] Sure! [16:03] I'm Łukasz, working for Canonical for quite a while, currently the semi release-manager for Ubuntu Touch, one of the co-maintainers of the infameous CI Train and current co-maintainer of system-image [16:03] I'm also a MOTU since over a year [16:04] Been doing two +1 maintenance sessions, with the most recent one a bit more fruitful than the first [16:05] I have worked a bit more on main packages recently and decided to re-apply - becoming a core-dev would make my development work much easier, not only from the CI Train side, but also during my patch-pilot and +1 maintenance sessions [16:06] I'm also the maintainer of the ubuntu-touch seeds and even though the package itself is in universe, the owner of the branches is ubuntu-core-dev, so well ;) I would like to stop bothering people all the time [16:07] And I think that's basically it, becoming a core-dev is my long-standing goal [16:08] so this isn't your first application [16:08] what's changed since last time? :) [16:08] No, last time I applied I basically didn't have too much main experience as during all my piloting sessions and archive work I was concentrating on universe, the place where I had power [16:08] (thanks for the Qt PPU additions. with those I'd manage through Qt 5.5 before applying for core-dev) [16:09] So since that time I started actually working on main packages as advised by xnox, helping out in the wily FTBFS from the test-rebuilds right before release [16:09] * xnox notices abi transitions work from sil as well [16:09] Then I wanted to help out and resolve the ocaml transition, but sadly most of the packages there were in universe [16:10] And just now noticed that I have some leftovers in NBS from the transition, ouch! But resolving those now inbetween things [16:10] sil2100, which tools did you use to assist you with ocaml transition? [16:11] xnox: reverse-depends, a xenial-proposed chroot, I used chdist for checking installability on different platforms (at first I used the porterboxes, but chdist was faster) [16:11] sil2100, any websites at all? e.g. launchpad...? [16:11] I created a few scripts that were helping me in the no-change rebuilds, checking for installability problems first and then outputting dependencies etc. [16:12] xnox: used launchpad too, but my scripts were fetching the most required information using LP API [16:12] Like which archs FTBFS, what binaries are provided by the packages [16:13] At first I was checking those manually through launchpad, but seeing ~100 packages in the transition, I got tired and wrote some stupid-helpers [16:13] sil2100, have you used transition tracker at all? [16:13] Of course [16:14] cool. [16:14] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ocaml.html [16:14] That was the main page I was using for the transition [16:14] (e.g. which packages needed my attention) [16:17] I see that something causes now ocaml to have installability issues, will look at that later [16:17] any more? [16:19] #vote Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100 [16:19] Please vote on: Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100 [16:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [16:21] +1 [16:21] +1 received from xnox [16:21] +1 [16:21] +1 received from cyphermox [16:21] +1 [16:21] +1 received from Laney [16:21] +1 [16:21] +1 received from stgraber [16:21] #endvote [16:21] Voting ended on: Ubuntu Core Developer membership for sil2100 [16:21] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [16:21] Motion carried [16:21] \o/ Thank you! [16:22] congrats sil2100 :) [16:22] congrats sil2100! [16:22] thanks sil2100 [16:23] I hope that doesn't mean I hear less from you for citrain silo reviews ;) [16:23] hah ;) [16:24] Interesting, all ocaml binaries look installable here, maybe I'll have to dig a bit deeper [16:24] * xnox /o\ what have we done. anway, i shall have sil2100 on speed dial for any ci train issues =) [16:24] But I noticed that the ben is not to be trusted in 100% [16:25] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (following alphabetical order of first names) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Select a chair for the next meeting (following alphabetical order of first names) [16:25] No worries! I'll get bad karma if I publish too many bad packages through the train [16:25] that will be micahg, I'll move my name last in the list [16:25] * sil2100 only likes good karma [16:25] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: AOB [16:25] anything? [16:26] I don't know [16:26] I've already done the packageset changes we agreed on, added chiluk to UCD and sil2100 to core-dev, so we should be good action-wise. [16:26] stgraber: thanks! [16:26] I responded to Timo by email to say the pkgset was done [16:26] thanks! [16:27] thanks stgraber, cyphermox, Laney, xnox [16:27] chiluk: looking forward to sponsoring requests from you to eventually +1 a core-dev application [16:28] that's the goal. [16:28] agenda updated too [16:29] thanks [16:29] and replied to the applications saying they've been approved and Cced the news-team [16:29] so I think we're all done [16:29] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:29] Meeting ended Mon Nov 23 16:29:50 2015 UTC. [16:29] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-23-15.20.moin.txt [16:32] hello [16:32] \o [16:32] #startmeeting [16:32] Meeting started Mon Nov 23 16:32:47 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:32] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:32] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:32] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:32] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [16:33] Andrew Starr-Bochicchio (asomething) provided debdiffs for trusty-wily for libpng (LP: #1516592) [16:33] Launchpad bug 1516592 in libpng (Ubuntu Wily) "CVE-2015-8126: Multiple buffer overflows" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516592 [16:33] Bas Couwenberg (sebastic) provided debdiffs for trusty-vivid for freexl (LP: #1516257) [16:33] Launchpad bug 1516257 in freexl (Ubuntu Vivid) "[DSA 3208-2] freexl regression update" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516257 [16:33] Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) [16:33] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:33] mdeslaur: you're up [16:34] I'm on bug triage this week [16:35] I'm testing some icedtea-web updates, and I have an embargoed update to test [16:35] after that, I'll be going down the list, as usual [16:35] that's it [16:35] sbeattie: you're up [16:35] I'm on cve triage this week [16:36] I'm currently digging in to a couple of build failures I hit after building the vast majority of main with gcc-pie [16:36] I also have openjdk-7 packages to test [16:36] and that will probably consume my short week this week (US thanksgiving) [16:37] tyhicks: you're up [16:37] I need to restart the mapplauncherd review (preempted last week by another code review) [16:37] I want to start working on AppArmor policy loads inside of a user namespace [16:38] and I need to do some snappy sprint prep [16:38] short week for me (US holiday + I'm off Wed) [16:38] jjohansen: you're up [16:38] its a short week for me too due to the thanksgiving holiday, I need to finish up with bug 1446906, and send out a couple more patches for the apparmor kernel SRU for review, and the get back to working on stacking [16:38] bug 1446906 in lxc (Ubuntu) "lxc container with postfix, permission denied on mailq" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446906 [16:39] thats it for /me sarnold you're up [16:40] I'm on community this week; short week, thanksgiving; I'm finishing the libmicrohttp* MIR, starting DPDK, and reviewing some of the apparmor kernel patches that I assume are headed my way [16:40] that's it for me, chrisccoulson? [16:41] I've got a chromium update to sponsor this week, I'm also still waiting for a thunderbird release [16:41] I shall be preparing an Oxide release for next week as well [16:41] In addition to that, I've got quite a lot of reviews to get through. I've just done one [16:42] I'm currently trying to get the camera working in the browser - it's just crashing atm, but I hope to have that done this week [16:42] Then I plan to work on what we discussed at the sprint for bug 1447345 [16:42] bug 1447345 in Oxide "Support the unprivileged namespace sandbox" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447345 [16:42] I think that's it [16:42] busy week :) [16:42] (no short week for me) [16:43] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:43] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:43] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/rope.html [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tntnet.html [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ldns.html [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libfpdi-php.html [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/snack.html [16:43] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:44] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:46] mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks! [16:46] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:46] Meeting ended Mon Nov 23 16:46:18 2015 UTC. [16:46] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-23-16.32.moin.txt [16:46] tyhicks: thanks! [16:46] thanks tyhicks! [16:46] thanks tyhicks [16:46] thanks tyhicks === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy