[15:33] <krytarik> knome, slickymaster: As I indicated earlier, you'll have to adapt the docs' translation settings to the new path and template name of the user docs now: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/xenial/+lang/pt
[15:37] <krytarik> Or that might work automatically: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/+imports
[15:38] <krytarik> Well, part of it at least.
[15:39] <flocculant> knome: further to earlier discussion - moved links from qa page, added a note linking to references page. If we don't want to do that let me know and I'll delete the proposal
[15:42] <slickymasterWork> I just approved those in the import queue krytarik 
[15:43] <flocculant> hi slickymasterWork 
[15:43] <slickymasterWork> hi flocculant 
[15:50] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Change it here, then import the new .pot?: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/xenial/+pots/desktop-guide/+edit
[16:11] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, not quite sure I understand what you want
[16:13] <slickymasterWork> do you want me to replace the translation domain and the path of the template in the source tree?
[16:14] <sidi> you guys using the Default xfwm theme, right?
[16:14] <sidi> from 14.04 to 15.10
[16:14] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: There is no 'desktop-guide' translation template anymore now, it's now 'user-docs'.
[16:15] <slickymasterWork> I know that, krytarik 
[16:15] <slickymasterWork> that's not what I'm asking
[16:15] <slickymasterWork> what I'm asking is the actual fields you want edited´
[16:16] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: s/desktop-guide/user-docs/g, basically.
[16:17] <flocculant> libgoa being installed because fuse changes it seems
[16:18] <slickymasterWork> in "Template name:", "Translation domain:" and "Path of the template in the source tree, including filename.:"
[16:20] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Yes.
[16:22] <slickymasterWork> imported krytarik 
[16:22] <slickymasterWork> well, sort of
[16:22] <slickymasterWork> it's approved and will be imported as soon as the LP hamsters feel like it
[16:23] <krytarik> lol
[16:27] <flocculant> oh - what bizarre reason is it that makes the links title not show in the contents in that ^^ which turned up at a really opportune time :D
[16:49] <krytarik> flocculant: Because you made it a sub-section of 'Launchpad'. :D
[17:07] <flocculant> krytarik: thanks :D
[17:08] <flocculant> I got splinters there ... 
[18:58] <pleia2> knome: meetings are too early for me to make it to these days, so should find time to chat about offer I got back from gandi
[19:40] <knome> pleia2, i'm around
[19:41] <pleia2> so, gandi can give us some free credits, and a good discount on buying more, but as I played with server options it doesn't really get us anything better than just paying for a cheap linode
[19:42] <knome> yeah...
[19:42] <knome> i wonder if canonical has any preference over hosting providers for stuff they pay
[19:42] <pleia2> do they pay for anything?
[19:42] <pleia2> they have datacenter space, I assumed they just put everything there
[19:43] <knome> i know i read something about them wanting to use provider/shop X when using the community fund
[19:43] <knome> there's at least some QA effort going where they want non-canonical server space
[19:43] <pleia2> digital ocean has been popular with people lately (Unit193 mentioned them)
[19:43] <knome> balloons could maybe give some insight on this
[19:43] <knome> he might've mentioned that kubuntu did something non-canonical too
[19:44] <knome> but i don't remember the details, or much else
[19:44] <pleia2> shall I follow up with him?
[19:45] <knome> i'll ask him to join us here
[19:46] <knome> invited in PM
[19:46] <pleia2> k
[19:46] <pleia2> and I'll start spreading the social media word about our Testing session this weekend
[19:47] <knome> mmh
[19:54]  * balloons pops in
[19:54] <knome> pleia2, ping
[19:54] <pleia2> o/ balloons 
[19:55] <pleia2> balloons: we're looking at options for some hosting that we'd likely request community donations funds for
[19:55] <pleia2> balloons: happen to know what other folks doing simliar things have done? what providers they're using?
[19:56] <pleia2> I use linode for ubuntu-us.org
[19:56] <knome> balloons, iirc, you talked something about kubuntu earlier (i might misremember) and i know people are working with the community jenkins stuff
[19:57] <balloons> right. We'd scoped out things like ec2 in the past, and kubuntu has had there ec2 usage reimbursed in a similar manner
[19:57] <knome> their
[19:57]  * knome hides
[19:58] <balloons> for hosting, I'd recommend picking a host and pricing out a longer term contract to request funds for. Don't do it on a monthly or bi-monthly basis, as it will make your lives harder imho
[19:58] <knome> yep...
[19:59]  * pleia2 nods
[19:59] <balloons> there isn't a requirement you choose a specific host, or any other hoops. It's no different than any other request. However, if you are trying to ask for funds for a supercomputer to run a website, I don't see that getting accepted :p
[19:59] <pleia2> hehe
[19:59] <knome> WHAT?
[20:00] <knome> but my php code is very unoptimized it'll surely need a supercomputer :P
[20:00] <balloons> I realize it seems unfair, but bitcoin mining (even for the project) probably wouldn't fly
[20:00] <knome> lol
[20:00] <balloons> I've seen your php knome, don't worry. Special compensation can be arranged for that
[20:00] <balloons> we've learned to adapt for you
[20:01] <knome> hahah
[20:01] <knome> good ;)
[20:01] <knome> what about setting up a openttd server for community games, would that get through? :P
[20:01] <balloons> so yea, I look forward to seeing a request
[20:02] <balloons> quite possibly. We ran a tf2 server I think for a short time during the steam on linux launch
[20:04] <pleia2> knome: I'm inclined to just do a Linode 2G, I'm familiar with the company and they've always treated me well, their prices are competitive and their service is solid (I irc from a linode)
[20:04] <pleia2> that's $240/yr
[20:07] <flocculant> evening all 
[20:08] <flocculant> pleia2: thanks for the pings out :)
[20:59] <flocculant> knome: just a thought - is there any reason why we don't have recent blog stuff on the front page? 
[20:59] <flocculant> other than that's what we do ofc
[21:03] <pleia2> 11:20:49 < knome> and yeah, we need the blog entries on the front page sooner or later
[21:03] <pleia2> 11:20:53 < knome> it's really hidden now
[21:03] <pleia2> ^^ yesterday :)
[21:04] <flocculant> ha ha 
[21:04] <flocculant> pleia2: that'll be me really reading the backlog then :p
[21:04] <pleia2> :D
[21:05] <flocculant> I was just sat here staring into space through our front page - then started thinking - never a good sigh
[21:05] <flocculant> or sign
[21:16] <balloons> bah, I closed this tab on accident. Anyways, while some of you are still around, I need to give my GCI speil!
[21:16] <balloons> Is there any interest within xubuntu to put up some tasks for Google Code In? I'm not sure if Jose has formally asked yet or not, so I'll mention it
[21:20] <flocculant> balloons: no-one's asked us 
[21:26] <balloons> ok, I can craft up an email now and formally do so. That said, I think it would be a nice idea. Tasks can fall under things like documentation and promotion as well -- it never hurts to have more of those
[22:14] <knome> pleia2, as i said, that works for me
[22:15] <knome> pleia2, i mean as i said, all providers work for me, implying linode works for me :P
[22:15]  * pleia2 nods
[22:16] <knome> pleia2, tell me how you want to go forward with it
[22:16] <knome> especially if you want help...
[22:17] <pleia2> I can probably just do it
[22:17] <pleia2> submit funding request, set up linode, distribute access
[22:18] <knome> yep
[22:18] <knome> works for me very well as well, thanks
[22:18] <pleia2> do we need to vote or something? :)
[22:18] <knome> (but feel free to ask for help)
[22:18] <knome> well
[22:18] <knome> we're not using xubuntu funds
[22:18] <knome> so i don't see a reason why
[22:18] <pleia2> wfm
[22:18] <knome> also, the stuff we are setting up are stuff that we are using already
[22:18] <knome> so i don't think we need to discuss if they are useful or not :P
[22:19] <pleia2> :)
[22:19] <knome> a quick workaround for the website frontpage is up
[22:25] <pleia2> funding request submitted
[22:25] <pleia2> knome: ah, cool
[22:27] <knome> \o/
[22:36] <knome> pleia2, just a theoretical question; how do you think a 2G linode would work with the stuff we are about to push there and the wordpress website?
[22:37] <pleia2> knome: it would be fine, but I'd rather have canonical be the owners of our website, they are better equipped to handle attacks, outages, etc (I'm just one person with a real job and things)
[22:37] <knome> yes, i was just thinking
[22:37] <pleia2> no more thinking
[22:37] <knome> for potential changes in the future :P
[22:37] <knome> lol
[22:37] <pleia2> :D
[22:37]  * knome turns the brain off and goes work on the website updates then
[22:38] <knome> alalalalalalalalalalalal
[22:38] <pleia2> haha
[23:03] <knome> krytarik, the tracker code is on launchpad... you can create an MP and we can argument there instead of either of these channels ;)
[23:04] <bluesabre> evening all
[23:04] <knome> krytarik, but of course i'm just kidding...
[23:04] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[23:04] <bluesabre> howdy knome 
[23:04] <knome> pleia2, you still around?
[23:04] <pleia2> mhmm
[23:04] <knome> ok, so you all, but especially pleia2:
[23:04] <knome> see the staging site
[23:04] <Unit193> bluesabre: /laslog balloons 
[23:05] <knome> and the third widget area
[23:05] <knome> that starts with the marketing blog article
[23:05] <knome> the question:
[23:05] <knome> do we want to do it in this order, where the "more articles" section is at the end, or move it as the first item?
[23:06] <knome> first would make more sense with mobile devices
[23:06] <pleia2> which one is the third? :)
[23:06] <knome> 01:05  knome: that starts with the marketing blog article
[23:06] <knome> eg. the second white-white bg one
[23:06] <knome> or the one before the footer
[23:06] <pleia2> oh ok
[23:07] <pleia2> it look good as it is
[23:07] <knome> but would you be opposed of the other order?
[23:07] <knome> let me show that to you...
[23:07] <knome> refresh
[23:07] <pleia2> it might be a bit odd to have "more articles" before we show them any articles.. reading left to right
[23:07] <knome> (and now it's second/last widget area, as it would be in the website)
[23:07] <knome> well of course we'd change the title
[23:08] <knome> "The Xubuntu team blog"
[23:08] <pleia2> nah, the other way is better :)
[23:08] <knome> or sth
[23:08] <knome> ok
[23:08] <Unit193> "The Xubuntu blog team" ?
[23:08] <knome> Unit193, that too.
[23:08] <pleia2> no, not that
[23:08] <knome> i'll keep on breaking the staging site then.
[23:08] <pleia2> k
[23:08] <knome> hoping to get this done on this sitting
[23:10] <bluesabre> Unit193: re Google Code In?
[23:10] <knome> pleia2, another question: do we expect to only want to drag articles from one category ("Articles") or do we want multiple choice?
[23:11] <pleia2> I don't know
[23:11] <knome> hah
[23:11] <pleia2> probably just articles?
[23:11] <knome> mhm
[23:11] <knome> also, subcategories for articles is ok
[23:11] <pleia2> yeah
[23:12] <pleia2> we want everything we publish to make it on the front page at some point
[23:12] <knome> oh?
[23:12] <pleia2> whether it's release news or articles
[23:12] <knome> ok, so no category filter then
[23:12] <knome> ...right?
[23:12] <pleia2> well, we don't want a release announcement showing up twice
[23:12]  * knome facepalms
[23:13] <pleia2> everything we publish should either end up where it is now on the site, or down in articles
[23:13] <knome> ok
[23:13] <knome> so basically what the marketing lead wanta
[23:13] <knome> *wants
[23:13] <knome> is
[23:13] <knome> we put everything that we want to show up in the new widget area in one category
[23:13] <pleia2> impossible \o/
[23:13] <knome> and then we only show that category
[23:14] <pleia2> yeah
[23:14] <knome> note: an article can be in several categories
[23:14] <pleia2> so I think that only excludes release announcements
[23:14] <knome> yeah, so there's some work to be done
[23:14] <knome> let me try to break something.
[23:15] <pleia2> enjoy
[23:15] <knome> this is always fun
[23:15] <knome> oh yeah, fun
[23:15] <knome> so
[23:15] <Unit193> bluesabre: Yeah.
[23:15] <knome> pleia2, so to confirm: we're fine with limiting to one category (and all its subcategories) ?
[23:16] <bluesabre> Unit193: alrighty, I'll see if I can get some ideas together
[23:16] <pleia2> knome: sure
[23:16] <knome> great
[23:16] <knome> let's see if i'll enable selecting multiple anyway, but good to know we (i) have that fallback
[23:20] <pleia2> I guess having the release announcements show up isn't the end of the world, they rotate out quickly enough
[23:20] <knome> well
[23:20] <knome> i'd prefer a situation where we don't have to publish new articles to "push out" the release announcements
[23:20] <knome> it's simple enough to add the limitation in some form anyway
[23:20] <knome> just wanted to know how we want to filter
[23:21]  * pleia2 nods
[23:27] <Unit193> bluesabre: Figured that'd be the most interest to you.
[23:29] <knome> bluesabre, did i already tell you parole needs to show the filename on the main window when playing an audio file?
[23:30] <bluesabre> knome: yes you did
[23:30] <bluesabre> knome: maybe I'll fix that tonight :)
[23:31] <knome> :)
[23:38] <knome> pleia2, do we want to start being obsessed on button alignment to bottom of the widget box?
[23:39] <pleia2> knome: I don't think so
[23:40] <pleia2> but you haven't seen my desk
[23:40] <pleia2> chaos
[23:40] <knome> lol
[23:40] <knome> ..you haven't seen my desk
[23:40] <knome> actually my desk is so small that i simply don't have space for chaos
[23:40] <knome> things fall off if i have chaos
[23:42] <pleia2> hehe
[23:54] <knome> oh sigh
[23:54] <knome> x.x