[00:05] <clivejo> that sily bot keeps blaming me for breaking plasma-nm
[00:06] <valorie> easy fix: stop breaking it!
[00:07] <clivejo> I didnt!
[00:07] <valorie> :-)
[08:22] <sitter> yofel: pinging starbuck1 on IRC usually works
[12:01] <sitter> yofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-debug-installer/16.04ubuntu1 keep on eye on that plz. not sure the tests will actually pass since they are obscenely naughty and require installation of packages/removal
[12:01]  * yofel wonders how the parser reached that conclusion o.O
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) d318a2e * Harald Sitter:  (3 files in 2 dirs)
[12:02] <pursuivant> add a pretty terrible test for finder. it manipulates apt... very meh
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/d318a2ecc6d9268ac0af4ccb82fc2f98df958771
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) ce6e43e * Harald Sitter: src/DebugFinder.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> turn qt4x11 source mapping into generic mapping
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/ce6e43e4f339590772589fda91fc4c5309021604
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) c46ff70 * Harald Sitter: src/DebugFinder.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> implement name mangling to get qt5 dbg packages
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/c46ff7074d593839e83de955d9c9751d7f496952
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 0bdc0ac * Harald Sitter: autotests/findertest.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> add license header
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/0bdc0ac95810921fd005fc1dc1e72f4adce1c3c3
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 098c932 * Harald Sitter: debian/changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> bump changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/098c932d26c3cc460a163673e1978efbaad7d3c4
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) d8ba4ad * Harald Sitter: .gitignore
[12:02] <pursuivant> add git ignore
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/d8ba4ada501aed26217ecbd6e2ed3ec9a49897d6
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 87b6372 * Harald Sitter: autotests/findertest.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> add a test for qt5 mapping
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/87b63720efe66fd80bc11a3f02b54ad929c4fa51
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) a4f5a8c * Harald Sitter: debian/changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> fix changelog series
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/a4f5a8ceed2e799102f75a1773a9d5e0cd83789b
[12:15] <yofel> sitter: 1/1 Test #1: kubuntu-debug-installer-findertest ...***Exception: Other  0.13 sec
[12:15] <yofel> QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
[12:15]  * yofel -> lunch
[12:24] <sitter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsNJtnUb7c
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:38] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 596fce7 * Harald Sitter: debian (2 files)
[12:38] <pursuivant> disable tests during build as they are tricky to get working
[12:38] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/596fce73a5bb0809dba93fafad0963a2d4885f37
[12:39] <sitter> yofel: ^ don't care enough to do more with this
[12:51] <clivejo> In the calligra packages there is a deb file called calligra-active made by an install file, however it doesnt get installed.  This seems to throw missing list warnings, is there any way to stop it throwing files that are installed into that package or not-installed?
[12:55] <Riddell> clivejo: is it in debian/control ?
[12:56] <Riddell> I don't remember if calligra-active actually should be built these days
[12:56] <Riddell> ask in #calligra
[12:56] <Riddell> I suspect not
[12:56] <Riddell> check debian/changelog too
[12:56] <clivejo> nope, not in control
[13:09] <yofel> sounds like the file didn't get bzr rm'd
[13:09] <yofel> sitter: ok, I'll take a look later.
[13:10] <yofel> sitter: or well, it does work, so lets leave it like that
[13:13] <clivejo> so I need to remove the calligraactive.install file and add the files into not-installed?
[13:13] <yofel> yes
[13:13] <yofel> or well, what does upstream say?
[13:14] <clivejo> havent asked yet
[13:14] <clivejo> reading the changelog
[13:14] <yofel> if this is about qt4 -active, then I think that's very likely trash
[13:15] <yofel> but they'll know best
[13:15] <clivejo> 7th Jun 2012 yofel added Merge with debian unstable -enable calligraactive and calligra-dev
[13:15] <yofel> yay, everyone praise our not working gingerlog trucking
[13:15] <yofel> erm, changelog tracking
[13:16] <clivejo> why is it a gingerlog?
[13:16] <clivejo> Im not getting these memos!
[13:17] <clivejo> senile=xenial, gingerlog=changelog, I dont get the clockwork carrot one 
[13:19] <sgclark> morning
[13:19] <yofel> clivejo: a certain munich whiteboard https://kyofel.de/owncloud/index.php/s/rx9tOkVx3WBpCwP
[13:21] <clivejo> Neon = JR build?
[13:23] <clivejo> where do the carrots come in?
[13:26] <clivejo> stupid FTP uploaded
[13:26] <clivejo> another 190Mb wasted
[13:30] <yofel> the carrors were part of the 2nd beer item
[13:33] <sgclark> Is the meeting today? If so what time please...
[13:33] <yofel> 8PM UTC
[13:40] <yofel> clivejo: I could provide a server container if you run out of bandwidth (you would have to set it up though)
[13:40] <yofel> clivejo: will you be there for the meeting?
[13:40] <clivejo> Im not a dev
[13:41] <yofel> neither are half the people in it. You're still part of the community 
[13:42] <clivejo> is it santa's meeting?
[13:43] <yofel> no, just a team catchup. 
[14:11] <sitter> yofel: not sure we'd get much from solving the test situation anyway. ideally I'd have the tests fully isolated from the life system. so if we were to get annoyed by the lack of autotest runs we probably should throw effort at getting some sort of simulation mode in qapt instead
[14:11] <yofel> true
[14:11] <sitter> which would also conveniently solve the problem that qapt is impossible to test for the very same reason ^^
[16:43] <d_ed> I've got Kubuntu on a pen drive trying to install, Kubuntu used to have an option to install from the grub menu, does that still exist? mine always goes into live mode directly
[16:49] <mck182__> hola guys, do you think this patch could be backported to buntu's qt? http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp?id=6129be8a4ba976c42e51012ebaa9005eb402db80
[16:49] <mck182__> it's quite an important patch
[16:49] <mck182__> as without it the user's QT_PLUGIN_PATH are useless
[16:50] <ahoneybun> d_ed: I've have not see that before, only the live mode is there that I know of
[16:50] <ahoneybun> mck182__: the repos need to be open first
[16:50] <ahoneybun> they might be now not sure
[16:50] <mck182__> ahoneybun: what does that mean?
[16:51] <ahoneybun> there is a freeze so no new packages are uploaded for a release but the gates might be open now for 16.04
[16:51] <mck182__> ah
[16:52] <mck182__> but that wouldn't get this change to 15.10 then, I presume?
[16:52] <ahoneybun> changes can get made after a release when it comes to bugs and such, so it is possible
[16:53] <ahoneybun> hoop into #ubuntu-devel and ask around there
[16:54] <ahoneybun> mck182__: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus
[16:55]  * mck182__ tries ubuntu-devel
[16:58] <mck182__> the other thing I'm wondering is why the default cmake install paths are different from qt
[16:58] <yofel> d_ed: if you mean install from grub as in debian-installer like, we don't provide that as an offline option. The mini.iso (netinst) can do that though.
[17:03] <d_ed> yofel: ok, I'm just showing my age from when I last had to install things :D
[17:03] <d_ed> thanks
[17:03] <d_ed> fyi, I'm asking because my ubiquity is crashing on launch, but I might have just burned the image badly so I'll retry that first.
[19:02] <sick_rimmit> Hello folks..
[19:08] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Ping, hi
[19:08] <yofel> hey
[19:08] <sick_rimmit> What time is the HO ?
[19:09] <yofel> in 52min IIRC
[19:09] <sick_rimmit> Ah I may be ahead of myself, most importantly I have not missed it
[19:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do we really need to double build pam-kwallet?
[19:51] <ahoneybun> 9mins I believe
[20:05] <alleehol> shadeslayer: as long as we have a wallet4 and wallet5:  IMHO yes.
[20:05] <yofel> sick_rimmit, sgclark: ping
[20:05] <sick_rimmit> Hola
[20:06] <sgclark> hi
[20:07] <alleehol> sick_rimmit, sgclark  can you join the hangout or do you need an invite?
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> Need invite Hangout
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> Or a link
[20:13] <yofel> shadeslayer, Riddell, sitter: anyone want to join the hangout?
[20:13] <yofel> clivejo: ^
[20:13] <shadeslayer> sure, send me a link, I'll be passively around I guess
[20:15] <sgclark> sorry I am not working, cant hear
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: Check Google settings, could be audio
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> device
[20:33] <sgclark> I am here
[20:46] <sgclark> We need to discuss this when I can participate..
[20:57] <valorie> will try to join on the computer instead of just listening on my phone
[21:13] <valorie> sorry for the feedback
[21:17] <valorie> boo, where are you sgclark?
[21:18] <sgclark> pointless. No one can hear me.
[21:18] <sgclark> I am going shopping for holiday dinner. Send me what you want me to do.
[21:18] <valorie> ah
[21:19] <valorie> have a productive shopping trip
[21:19] <valorie> freebies
[21:20] <valorie> swag
[21:24] <valorie> github isn't free!
[21:24] <valorie> mirroring on github is fine
[21:26] <valorie> grrr
[21:28] <soee> own Gitlab server ftw
[21:30] <valorie> that would be cool indeed
[21:30] <valorie> I'm all for mirroring on github -- it's outreach
[21:31] <valorie> amen ovidiu-florin
[21:31] <valorie> we should never hotlink
[21:31] <valorie> it's rude to the person hosting the original
[21:48] <mparillo> Is the hangout over? If not, do you have the URL?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> shopping is the worst thing ever
[21:48] <shadeslayer> everyone tries to help you
[21:48] <valorie> GCi is awesome
[21:49] <shadeslayer> much annoying
[21:49] <shadeslayer> whats with GCi?
[21:49] <genii> I also hate shopping. I like to pick out ahead of time what I'm there to get, go directly to that area and get it, check out.
[21:49] <shadeslayer> genii: Clothes shopping is the worst
[21:49] <shadeslayer> takes me 4 hours
[21:50] <shadeslayer> and even then I won't buy new stuff
[21:51] <valorie> think of shopping as hunting and gathering
[21:51] <valorie> scan the shops for prey, pounce, kill, DONE
[21:54] <genii> Women have the shopping thing totally figured out.
[21:54] <valorie> most calories in H&G societies come from the women, yeah
[21:55] <valorie> the men get all the kudos with their big kills though
[21:55] <valorie> :-)
[21:55] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:56] <shadeslayer> Wish there was a API for H&M
[21:56] <shadeslayer> POST /api/buy/randomizedJeans(color: blue)
[21:56] <shadeslayer> done
[21:56] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:10] <yofel> lol
[22:10] <yofel> surprise presents :P
[22:11] <valorie> mail to -devel sent about GCi
[22:11] <yofel> thanks
[22:11] <valorie> also, #kde-soc is good for questions, student support, etc.
[22:12] <valorie> that was good, although my ears are ringing
[22:12] <valorie> not used to earplugs for hours
[22:15] <yofel> heh, I feel with you. I did our old mumble meetings with in-ear headphones, which wasn't nice. You need a real headset for long meetings
[22:16] <valorie> I've bought a few headsets, but haven't found one that is 1. comfortable and 2. works
[22:17] <valorie> that said, I might find another somewhere in our Great Cleanout
[22:17] <sick_rimmit> Yes, a nice headset with Soft Large Ear Cups, like the gaming headsets, with a boom mic. Really worth while for meetings like this
[22:17] <valorie> I'll ask my gaming son to find some for me, perhaps
[22:18] <sick_rimmit> YaY! that would do it
[22:18] <valorie> I'll see him tomorrow for thxgiving
[22:18] <valorie> he's a linux user, so he'll know what works
[22:18] <sick_rimmit> Well have a great time tomorrow, I know thanks giving is popular celebration
[22:19]  * shadeslayer ponders about whether pkg-kde-tools's kf5 sequence helper is broken
[22:19] <valorie> since it's all about family + eating, yeah!
[22:20] <valorie> although: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/adele-perform-saturday-night-live-article-1.2442993
[22:20] <shadeslayer> apparently running debian/clean with kf5 sequence is broken :O
[22:20] <shadeslayer> er
[22:20] <shadeslayer> debian/rules clean
[22:21] <yofel> well, nobody ever tests that..
[22:21] <shadeslayer> http://dci.pangea.pub/view/Failing/job/unstable_unstable_applications_ktp-common-internals_src/3/console
[22:21] <shadeslayer> I was
[22:21] <yofel> ^^
[22:22] <yofel> make: *** No rule to make target 'clean'.  Stop.
[22:22] <yofel> huh, shouldn't that be defined by dhmk o.O?
[22:23] <valorie> that snl kit is so funny, because it is so close to the truth
[22:26] <mparillo> It looks as if rekonq is pining for the fjords https://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/rekonq-2-4-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4184
[22:27] <shadeslayer> lol
[22:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: I have no clue how this is supposed to work xD
[22:27] <shadeslayer>         $file = "/usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/lib/kf5_flags";
[22:27] <shadeslayer> hardcoded paths
[22:27] <shadeslayer> much fun
[22:27] <yofel> well, it's perl
[22:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: I don't see the dhmk stuff being included anywhere in the sequence
[22:30] <shadeslayer> I'm unsure if one can even include the dhmk file
[22:30] <shadeslayer> in the sequence
[22:30] <yofel> shadeslayer: debian-qt-kde.mk line 6: include $(dqk_dir)dhmk.mk ?
[22:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: dqk_dir is a different dir
[22:30] <shadeslayer> and would include work?
[22:31] <shadeslayer> does the dhmk.mk clean target do anything special?
[22:32] <yofel> not that I know of, I don't even understand how it actually generates the target -.-
[22:32] <yofel> too much make magic
[22:35] <shadeslayer> whaaaa
[22:37] <shadeslayer> perl is fucking unreadable
[22:38] <shadeslayer> yofel: dh_clean '--buildsystem=kf5'  
[22:39] <shadeslayer> that's the problem
[22:39] <shadeslayer> must not take kf5 as argument
[22:39] <clivejo> sorry I missed the meeting, is there a way to view it now?
[22:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: at the very least debian/rules clean also fails with the debian-qt-kde.mk scripts for me
[22:41] <yofel> brrrr
[22:41] <shadeslayer> oh hm, not anymore
[22:41] <shadeslayer> must be something I changed
[22:43] <shadeslayer> hurray
[22:43] <shadeslayer> fuck load of debug
[22:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507751/
[22:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: call sequence for the kf5 helper
[22:44] <shadeslayer> same for the qt-kde one http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507761/
[22:45] <shadeslayer> calls dhmk_clean
[22:45] <shadeslayer> gm
[22:45] <shadeslayer> *hm
[22:47] <shadeslayer> nope, not a clue
[22:48] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[22:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: also a problem with the kde sequence
[22:49] <yofel> heh
[22:49] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[22:49] <shadeslayer> I'm a idiot
[22:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507817/
[22:50] <yofel> lol
[22:50] <yofel> looks reasonable :P
[22:50] <shadeslayer> and hurray, atleast post commit hooks work for DCI again
[22:54] <shadeslayer> I am the master of sed!
[22:54] <shadeslayer> sed -i s,include\ /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk,%:\\n\\tdh\ \$\@\ \-\-with\ kf5, ktp*/debian/rules
[22:56] <yofel> ^^
[22:58] <shadeslayer> and finally ktp should be green on DCI \o/
[22:59] <shadeslayer> noo
[22:59] <shadeslayer> oh pft
[22:59] <shadeslayer> I think that's a problem on KCI
[23:01] <clivejo> is there a recording of the hangout?
[23:01] <yofel>    dh_auto_build --buildsystem=kf5 -a
[23:01] <yofel> dh_auto_build: error: unable to chdir to obj-i686-linux-gnu
[23:01] <yofel> lolwhat
[23:01] <yofel> hm, no idea if we recorded it... 
[23:01] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah
[23:02] <shadeslayer> that's quite weird
[23:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: though xenial seems to have built ktp-desktop-applets
[23:02] <shadeslayer> so why not approver
[23:03] <shadeslayer> and whoa, lp has gotten faster
[23:06] <mparillo> If no recording, are there maybe five sentences of highlights?
[23:06] <shadeslayer> oooh
[23:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: look at gitattributes
[23:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: file merge=dpkg-mergechangelog
[23:07] <shadeslayer> fancy
[23:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: similar fail http://dci.pangea.pub/job/unstable_unstable_applications_ktp-approver_bin_amd64/1/console
[23:10] <shadeslayer> I know why
[23:10] <shadeslayer> I think
[23:11] <yofel> hm, why does dh_auto_configure not configure anything?
[23:11] <shadeslayer> no overriden command I think
[23:12] <yofel> aaah, that might be a dhmk feature, right
[23:13] <shadeslayer> lets see if this works -DDBUS_SEND_PATH=/usr/bin/dbus-send
[23:13] <shadeslayer> er
[23:13] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13508079/
[23:14] <shadeslayer> ok nope
[23:16] <shadeslayer> one should perhaps add overriden command stuff to the kf5 sequence
[23:25] <shadeslayer> yofel: now I'm losing flags I think
[23:32] <valorie> sitter: can you perhaps find your link to stock replies to bug reports? I'm going through Telegram and noticed that Yofel couldn't find it
[23:32] <valorie> the bug triagers could use that
[23:32] <yofel> there is the one for the ubuntu bugsquad, but I'm fairly certain we had a page with kde specific stuff
[23:32] <clivejo> yippeeee
[23:33] <yofel> anyway
[23:33]  * yofel -> bed, gn8
[23:34] <valorie> we did, I remember fixing some typos in it
[23:35] <valorie> perhaps sitter moved it to our kde wiki home
[23:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: valorie https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/BugTriage
[23:44] <valorie> yay!
[23:44] <valorie> thank you, shadeslayer
[23:45] <valorie> ovidiu-florin ^^^
[23:46] <valorie> rick needs to get a bouncer
[23:47] <shadeslayer> valorie: cheers
[23:59] <valorie> mparillo: do you have Telegram?
[23:59] <valorie> if so, the cards listed there are a pretty good outline of the meeting
[23:59]  * valorie took no notes, sorry