[00:00] <clivejo> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Thermal+Monitor?content=170354
[03:13] <DDR> Hi everyone. I'm writing a web page, but I keep crashing linux when I uncomment this one line. Where should I report that?
[03:13] <DDR> Stuff like 'ring 0 hasn't responded in 22 seconds'
[03:14] <DDR> Works on firefox and chrome. I feel I shouldn't link in IRC, though. :p
[05:49] <Flux_> hi, does Kubuntu 15.10 already has kernel 4.3?
[11:05] <c0upe> h1 everybody!
[11:07] <c0upe> How to install dropbox correctly on Kubuntu 15.10; it doesn't work... can't find the dropbox icon, moreover kfilebox can't help me
[11:07] <c0upe> thanks
[11:22] <hateball> isnt dropbox one of those legacy apps that doesnt have a tray icon in modern plasma
[11:22] <hateball> yep
[11:23] <hateball> c0upe: https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/201908279-Systray-icon-not-showing-in-KDE-Plasma-5-2
[11:38] <jubo2> Hiya and thanks for the awesomest Desktop OS Kubuntu15.10 GNU/Linukka
[11:39] <jubo2> I think I just made my life harder
[11:40] <jubo2> I accidentally actually  'sudo rm -rf /home/' when I was meaning to write 'sudo rm -rf home/'
[11:40] <jubo2> and kling-klang alert bells didn't ring when it said it gonna be neverminding about lost+found
[11:41] <jubo2> well
[11:41] <jubo2> nothing that isn't on other systems was in that /home
[11:42] <jubo2> but if someone knows this is actually the system that can stay on irc for hours and hours instead of getting "CPU critical hot"-peak reading
[11:43] <jubo2> I guess I'd be looking for "How to undelete 'sudo rm -rf'-ed directories on GNU/Linukka?"
[11:44] <hateball> !undelete
[11:45] <hateball> shut down your machine if it isnt, liveboot and run testdisk or similar on it
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:43] <jubo2> hateball: nah. I'm uploading from another machine and downloaded necessary dirs onto place here
[12:43] <jubo2> Hiya BluesKaj
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hey jubo2
[12:44] <jubo2> I actually managed to accidentally 'sudo rm -rf /home' today lol
[12:45] <jubo2> Should not do this stuff before 2nd mug of coffee
[12:45] <jubo2> nothing of value was lost
[12:45] <jubo2> the home had been recreated from .tar.gz:s of dirs in homedir just like a few weeks ago
[12:48] <jubo2> I already expanded .kde and .local from the other machine
[12:48] <jubo2> I hope this fixes my irc colors with restart
[12:49] <jubo2> This black type on white background just ain't makin' it feel like irc
[13:23] <jubo2> uhh..
[13:23] <jubo2> grub rescue>
[13:23] <jubo2> again
[13:23] <clivejo> eakk
[13:23] <jubo2> Removed unused filled up 40GB from 120GB SSD
[13:23] <hateball> I'm not sure what you're doing to your installs
[13:23] <jubo2> and expanded the NTFS to fill the whole disk
[13:24] <jubo2> hateball: That one machine has hardware issues, prlly heating sensor is broken
[13:24] <jubo2> or something is seriously wrong with the Volt/Amp control
[13:25] <jubo2> I need to rebuild grub config
[13:25] <jubo2> I promis I save it to ~/Documents/commands/commands.txt this time
[13:26] <jubo2> This netbook will not go down every 20 minutes
[13:26] <jubo2> and got mi relevant home dir dirs here
[13:26] <jubo2> I try to search engine
[13:30] <jubo2> I'm not sure where the grub be located
[13:30] <jubo2> I removed the Linux SWAP and the /-partition
[13:30] <jubo2> and grew the NTFS disk to fill whole station
[13:30] <jubo2> I now in LiveCD Kubuntu
[13:32] <jubo2> Uhh..
[13:33] <jubo2> I download the Windows7.iso and use that to fix the booting
[13:33] <jubo2> there is this 20MB partition iirc in the start of the disk
[13:33] <jubo2> so I could mount... uhh that disk and fix grub
[13:34] <jubo2> that or I let Windows7.iso write over it
[13:34] <jubo2> I gather these are my options
[13:37] <jubo2> msft download complains it is an OEM
[13:37] <jubo2> and that bordel we call http://lenovorecovery.com has sent me the wrong disks 3 times
[13:38] <jubo2> prrly coz some think he saw something like people on the internets and blamed me
[13:39] <jubo2> well.. I need grub to detect there is 1 NTFS partition on the disk and it is bootable and it should just boot it
[13:39] <jubo2> can I do that from grub-shell
[13:39] <jubo2> or what should I do?
[13:42] <jubo2> I try the wrong recovery disks
[13:44] <jubo2> nope. don't want it to wipe out the existing windows
[13:44] <jubo2> as the lenovorecovery.com is hellbent on sending me wrong disks to keep my circumstances precarious
[14:01] <jubo2> I see if I can make a rescue disk with the different Windows7 version I have on this hard drive
[14:31] <ejay> Hi all. Is kidle_inject part of linux kernel or plasma5?
[14:33] <jubo2> found solution: installed lilo
[14:37] <SomberLuxray> hey so im trying to install kubuntu and when I get to wireless I hit continue and it is just hanging there
[14:40] <SomberLuxray> and now its frozen lol
[14:40] <hazamonzo> So what happened to the Kubuntu (plasma) pastebin widget?
[14:41] <hazamonzo> Was pretty sueful for quicklyy pasting code or images online
[14:41] <hazamonzo> *useful
[14:47] <soee> hazamonzo: probably not ported to Plasma 5
[14:48] <hazamonzo> soee: Aww shame :(
[15:19] <jubo2> I installed a temp gauge for Windows7
[15:19] <jubo2> under low load the CPU does not overheat
[15:19] <jubo2> but in Kubuntu it always overheats, stress or no stress
[15:19] <jubo2> The chip is Arrandale 1st gen i5
[15:20] <jubo2> the Windows temp gadget shows the current CPU Frequency and I see it runs ~ 1400MHz most of the time
[15:20] <jubo2> I am guessing there is some voltage control or frequency control not working with Kubuntu
[15:25] <lordievader> How about a dusty fan?
[15:25] <lordievader> Or a broken fan.
[15:50] <ipso> I recently upgraded to Kubuntu 15.10, from 15.04 and now when I go into Korganizer and go to Settings -> Configure Date and Time, it says: "Could not start control module for date and time format", and the only timezone I have available in Korganizer is "UTC" (twice) and "Floating", so all my event times are incorrect. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> ipso, in the terminal run, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:52] <ipso> BluesKaj_, did that, and restarted korganizer, no change.
[15:53] <ipso> When I run: kcmshell4 --list, it doesn't show kcm_clock, which is my understanding what the date/time control module is called...
[15:55] <BluesKaj_> ipso, which kubuntu/plasma ?
[15:55] <skirim> hi
[15:55] <ipso> BluesKaj_, plasma-framework                              5.15.0-0ubuntu1
[15:56] <ipso> BluesKaj_, Kubuntu 15.10
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> ipso, seems the the kcmshell hasn't been integrated with plasma 5 yet, and 4 doesn't work here either
[17:09] <paul__> KDE Frameworks 5.15.0
[17:09] <paul__> Qt 5.4.2 (built against 5.4.2)
[17:09] <paul__> The xcb windowing system
[17:09] <paul__> oops
[17:10] <paul__> Oh, waeel KDE is stuck on the gtk theme and I am unable to change it to anything else other than changing the gtk theme.
[17:12] <paul__> I went so far as to delete the .config and .kde folders and still the the me is stuck on the gtk meta theme.
[17:47] <thesola10> testing out Quassel IRC
[18:27] <jubo2> It would seem that Windows7 knows how to clock-down the CPU to stop it from overheating but Kubuntu7 doesn't
[18:30] <jubo2> On Windows7 the CPU core temps are like 65-70C which seems acceptable
[18:30] <jubo2> On Kubuntu the temps just go to high-nineties and then the system shuts itself down
[18:31] <jubo2> There must be some program I can install that will help the CPU stay cool
[18:49] <jubo2> How do I get to the Widgets?
[18:59] <osama> Hi
[19:21] <jubo2> ok.. finally found a widget that displays CPU speed dynamically
[19:21] <jubo2> gonna boot that overheating system to Kubuntu soon and see what's burning up the chip
[19:36] <jubo2> aaagggghh.. Cannot add widgets to the panel
[19:37] <jubo2> I just want to see why with GNU/Linukka the system grossly overheats and gives wildly fluxing temperature values
[19:39] <jubo2> now I got the widget to install
[19:39] <jubo2> after rebooting
[19:41] <jubo2> seems to vary between 2-2.5GHz
[19:42] <jubo2> the temperature sensor must be broken
[19:42] <jubo2> wil 20C flux
[19:42] <jubo2> *wild
[19:43] <jubo2> I should prlly just try to turn off the shut-down-on-overheating
[19:50] <jubo2> I'm looking at the temperature printout on this other machine and it fluxes only few centigrade
[19:50] <jubo2> It doesn't make sense that temp can go up and down 15-20 degrees in just a few moments
[19:53] <jubo2> in Windows the clock rate is lower by 25% and temps vary only few degrees / s
[19:58] <jubo2> this is really annoying behaviour that something is giving these spikes in the temps when in GNU/Linukka and that causes the repeating shutdown
[20:20] <jubo2> My computer it seems would be best suited to grilling raclette cheeze
[20:21] <jubo2> When in Windows7 the frequency is around 1.5-2GHz and the temp is 65-70C
[20:21] <jubo2> When in Kubuntu the frequency is like 2-2.5GHz and the temp is something between 80-100C
[20:22] <jubo2> and when in Kubuntu the sensor sends really wildly varying data
[20:22] <jubo2> like 10-20C moves in a blink of an eye
[20:22] <jubo2> I'd really like to use Kubuntu
[20:23] <jubo2> but if it just keeps on shutting down because the stupid lying / broken sensor sends a random peak that hits the 105C limit
[20:28] <jubo2> how do I check a physical disk for errors that end up in error when trying to partition the disk?
[20:34] <jubo2> trying to create partitions on it fails with IOERROR
[20:42] <bprompt> !smartmontools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> !smarttools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> !smartools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> hmmm
[20:43] <bprompt> shoot, bot is drawing a blank, as usual
[20:44] <bprompt> jubo2:   do a S.M.A.R.T. check on the disk with "smarmontools", they're in the repositories
[20:44]  * jubo2 gets his Phalanx CIWS
[20:44] <jubo2> bprompt: ok
[20:47] <jubo2> I installed it bprompt but typing 'smartmontools' doesn't find it
[20:48] <jubo2> didn't see it in the start-menu either
[20:50] <bprompt> hmm
[20:50] <bprompt> jubo2:    smartctl    iirc....  try autocomplete  "smart<tab>"
[20:50] <jubo2> ok
[20:53] <jubo2> "no errors logged" when running 'smartctl -a /dev/sdb'
[20:54] <bprompt> then /dev/sdb may be ok :)
[20:54] <bprompt> jubo2:    what makes you think the hdd is bad anyway?
[20:55] <jubo2> coz Gparted will not partition it
[20:55] <jubo2> The details say just "IO error" when it tries to sync the disk
[20:56] <bprompt> and you're running kubuntu off /dev/sda?
[20:56] <jubo2> yes
[20:56] <bprompt> so hmmm... ok... toss /dev/sdb on the trash bin, no?
[20:56] <bprompt> :)
[20:57] <bprompt> s/on/in/
[20:57] <jubo2> yeah
[20:57] <jubo2> seems like a long time ago wasted 100€
[20:57] <bprompt> 100€ ?   hmm is that a 1Tbs one?
[20:58] <jubo2> yes
[20:58] <jubo2> a long time ago
[20:58] <bprompt> how long ago anyway?  3years ago?
[20:58] <jubo2> I think I never got it to work properly
[20:58] <jubo2> something like that
[20:58] <bprompt> a long long, couldn't be that long, 1Tbs hdd aren't that old
[20:59] <bprompt> jubo2:    got any data in it you'd like to salvage?
[20:59] <jubo2> nope
[21:00] <bprompt> Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could; some blunders and absurdities have crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; you shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.     ~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~
[21:00] <jubo2> ... and wake up to the same broken HW tomorrow
[21:00] <bprompt> hehe
[21:01] <bprompt> jubo2:    nope, you won't, if you toss it in the trash bin :), you'll wake up with the working HW only, the non-working one will be in the trash
[21:02] <bprompt> jubo2:    but hmmmm if smartmontools found nothing wrong.... it may not be bad anyway.... about gparted.... tried some other tools? like kde partition manager yet?
[21:02] <bprompt> or even parted
[21:02] <jubo2> nope
[21:02] <jubo2> how would that be different
[21:03] <jubo2> actually I'm confused.. KDE partition manager and Gparted have the same logo in the menu
[21:03] <jubo2> well.. maybe I try the KDE partition manager now
[21:03] <bprompt> jubo2:  just in case is some old stale session  files from gparted that was doing it
[21:04] <bprompt> I've had gparted, at times, choke on something, because.. the hdd was in use or a cancel something prematurely, so I rebooted, to start a fresh gparted session, and worked
[21:27] <keithzg> Huh, my officemate just upgraded to 15.10, and now Dolphin's file sort order is all wonky (it seems to ignore leading dots and capitalization differences for the sake of sorting).
[21:27] <keithzg> In fact, even `ls -la` seems affected, so this is probably some universal default set somewhere for LC_ALL or such?
[21:28] <keithzg> I can't seem to find anything to that effect in /etc, though.
[21:34] <keithzg> Also, what's the equivalent configuration option for SDDM to LightDM's xserver-allow-tcp=true or GDM's DisallowTCP=true ? (He needs to do X11 forwarding over a telnet connection, alas.)
[21:41] <keithzg> ...in fact, where in the world is the sddm.conf file now?
[21:41]  * keithzg has so many questions!
[21:41] <keithzg> Aha, "On systems controlled by systemd, everything should work out of the box, since SDDM defaults to using systemd-logind for session management."
[21:47] <keithzg> And apparently the ability to change this was added in https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/325 . . . which, uhh, probably didn't make it into Wily . . . crap.
[21:54] <jubo2> Yeah.. This Kubuntu partition manager seems slightly more advanced ( in the GUI ) than Gparted
[21:56] <keithzg> jubo2: Yeah, it's progressed quite nicely over the years; I remember not too long ago (it seems, at least) that it still lacked a lot that GParted had so I'd always fire up GParted instead, these days it's generally the opposite.
[22:08] <keithzg> Looks like I can just strip "-nolisten tcp" out of the X11 server arguments list if I remove line 155 in src/daemon/XorgDisplayServer.cpp in the version that ships with Wily. Time for some apt-get source ;)
[22:25] <keithzg> Hmm. Still doesn't work.
[22:35] <keithzg> Well I'm stumped. We've recompiled SDDM to leave out "-nolisten tcp", we've removed it from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, we've tried even just startx as root to get a session that way . . . no dice.
[23:04] <kaddi> hi guys, something broke my kubuntu today/yesterday
[23:05] <kaddi> was wondering if someone could help me trouble shoot
[23:05] <kaddi> basically the window manager seems to work, but I think plasma is freezing up badly..
[23:05] <kaddi> clock hasn't updated in 30min now and I can't open start menu, or any hot keys
[23:06] <kaddi> rebooting fixes it for like 5min and then it's back to the way it currently is
[23:06] <kaddi> i have /usr/bin/plasmashell --shut-up running using about 300MB of ram, not sure if that's normal
[23:08] <keithzg> Alright, well, got the `ls -la` issue fixed with a .profile line to define LANG=C.UTF-8 and that seems to fix Dolphin's sorting order too. Ignoring the telnet X11 issue for now, GNHS doesn't seem to work . . .
[23:08] <keithzg> Error 203 on new plasma themes, new mouse cursors, etc.
[23:09] <keithzg> GHNS, I guess I mean (huh, I always thought it was Get New Hot Stuff rather than Get Hot New Stuff).
[23:35] <keithzg> kaddi: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[23:35] <kaddi> 15.04
[23:36] <keithzg> kaddi: Do you have the backports PPA enabled?
[23:37] <kaddi> no, don't think
[23:37] <keithzg> It may well be worth the upgrade to 15.10, Plasma 5 has been bugfixed a fair bit since 15.04 came out. Myself at least I've noticed it's far more stable---although only once I dropped the fglrx drivers.
[23:38] <kaddi> plasmashell is v 5.2.2
[23:38] <kaddi> hmm, ok
[23:39] <keithzg> The version in 15.10 is 5.4.2, so two minor releases and some bugfix-only releases since then!
[23:39] <kaddi> yeah, but 15.04 should still be supported, no?
[23:39] <kaddi> i'm not sure i want to upgrade over a broken system.. that sounds like a bad idea >.>
[23:39] <keithzg> Well, a few things.
[23:40] <keithzg> Firstly, you can definitely try and debug this a bit more. Personally I'd suggest creating another user (thus a completely new profile and user configs without having to modify yours at all) and logging in as them and seeing if you get the same issues.
[23:41] <kaddi> yeah, fair point.. I should do that
[23:44] <kaddi> haha, well can't get the switching user screen to appear >.>
[23:54] <kaddi> seems to be a usre issue, test worked fine, but switching back was impossible
[23:54] <kaddi> cause everything froze
[23:54] <kaddi> rebooted, now my screen resolution has been reset to default.. gonna leave it at that for now to see if that will keep it from crashing
[23:54] <kaddi> :p
[23:56] <keithzg> kaddi: Interesting. Your main config files for plasma are all in ~/.config, so you might try backing those up and removing them to see what it is about your own user config that's crashing things versus the test user you created.
[23:56] <kaddi> yeah, i will because I can't change the resolution anymore.. i wonder if it's not actually related to the graphic drivers
[23:57] <keithzg> kaddi: I was going to mention, while 15.04 is still *arguably* supported, non-LTS *buntu releases only get 9 months of support anyways; 15.04's EOL is January!
[23:57] <kaddi> time sure does fly >.>
[23:57] <keithzg> Heh yup.
[23:57] <kaddi> yeah, I'll upgrade soon enough, need to find a free week-end, soooo january? :p
[23:59] <kaddi> ok, looks like the plasmahsell just froze up again.
[23:59] <kaddi> bbiab