[03:00] <eipi10> is having bad reallocated sectors a big deal?
[03:06] <eipi10> heard of any false positives with 14.04?
[11:14] <cimbakahn> I am having a major problem with Lubuntu.  See here ---->  https://paste.teknik.io/2444
[11:15] <cimbakahn> I have no idea what to do about this.  All suggestions will be appreciated.
[11:16] <bioterror> really?
[11:16] <bioterror> lubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[11:16] <bioterror> it can be removed
[11:16] <bioterror> it's mainly used to pull in all the neccessary packages needed for the "whole" Lubuntu experience
[11:18] <cimbakahn> But if 	lubuntu-desktop is removed it will take out lubuntu-core with it!
[11:18] <bioterror> yeah
[11:19] <bioterror> lubuntu-core is used when installing the basic lubuntu packages
[11:19] <cimbakahn> If it takes out the core, i will have a broken system, correct?
[11:20] <bioterror> it's just a package that has "few" dependencies
[18:49] <Vlado2> Hi, i have created a trouble ticket #1516616 on launchpad about a bug that prevents me to install lubuntu, but even after several weeks nobody gives a ... about that bug, any idea how to improve that bug report to attract some dev?
[18:52] <wxl> bug 1516616
[18:53] <wxl> Vlado2: i must say your bug is terribly confusing as it seems to relate to many problems, not just one.
[18:56] <Vlado2> i guess i can remove the sentence that 14,04 didn't recognize my wifi card as it is not related
[18:56] <wxl> and the other ones afterwards? as they suggest you CAN boot
[18:57] <Vlado2> i can boot only 14.04
[18:57] <Vlado2> 15.10 and xenial early builds can't boot
[18:58] <wxl> can't boot or take a long time to boot?
[18:59] <Vlado2> the bootup process is extremely slow, and it will eventually crash due to multiple errors during bootup (as mentioned in the bug report, like failed to insert module kdbus, failed to star load kernel modules)
[18:59] <wxl> these don't seem to be a problem based on testing. you say you checked the md5sum *AND* checked the media at the grub screen?
[19:00] <wxl> aww you're so mexican
[19:00] <Vlado2> yes, i checked the media at the menu
[19:01] <Vlado2> i beg you pardon!
[19:01] <wxl> ooops! wrong channel!!!!!
[19:01] <wxl> but were i to have directed that at you, don't take offense, as mexicans are very nice :)
[19:01] <wxl> anyways, did you check the md5 BEFORE you booted?
[19:02] <Vlado2> yes i did
[19:02] <wxl> that is utterly bizarre
[19:02] <wxl> afaik no testing has resulted in similar errors
[19:03] <wxl> have you tried different media? maybe usb rather than dvd?
[19:03] <Vlado2> after booting a menu shows up... install lubuntu, try Live, check CD and mem test
[19:03] <wxl> and you did "check CD." but did you check the md5 of the .iso image before burning it?
[19:04] <Vlado2> the medium is OK, i used the same one to try 14.04 and xenial early build
[19:05] <Vlado2> i checked everything, verified sha256 of the iso, check pgp signature of the sha256, then verification after burning and then check cd from the lubuntu menu
[19:05] <wxl> ok, did you try a different media?
[19:06] <Vlado2> no, but from that same media 14.04 worked
[19:06] <wxl> that's irrelevant
[19:06] <Vlado2> i have troubles beleiveing in that, why would then the CD check from lubuntu menu came as OK
[19:06] <Vlado2> ?
[19:07] <wxl> Vlado2: well, by the same logic, why would other people's tests succeed?
[19:07] <Vlado2> different HW?
[19:07] <wxl> …where yours failed
[19:07] <wxl> right
[19:07] <wxl> and that's what i'm suggesting
[19:07] <wxl> try different hardware (media)
[19:07] <Vlado2> did anyone tried Pentium M dothan?
[19:08] <Vlado2> i already tried to boot 15.10 on different machine and it booted just fine, i just came to different problem
[19:08] <Vlado2> bug #1516605
[19:09] <wxl> oh pentium m!
[19:09] <wxl> pentium m may be problematic. did you forcepae?
[19:10] <wxl> !pae | Vlado2
[19:11] <Vlado2> even on i386 builds???
[19:11] <wxl> yuuup.
[19:12] <Vlado2> let me try that, i'll get back to you in a minute...
[19:12] <Vlado2> more like 30 minutes... :)
[19:40] <Guest2> 14.04.3   Why is i get this message when i look for updates ? Failed to download repository information
[19:42] <wxl> Guest2: likely either an issue contacting the server or a general networking/internet issue
[19:43] <Guest2> Sometimes i get this message.
[19:43] <wxl> Guest2: do you have a connection to the internet at those times?
[19:44] <Guest2> Yes..
[19:45] <Guest2> Is this about the same problem ?   http://itsfoss.com/failed-to-download-repository-information-ubuntu-13-04/
[19:45] <wxl> Guest2: and can you give me the entirety of the output including the error in a pastebin?
[19:46] <wxl> Guest2: that may be the same problem, it might not. the totality of the output will tell us. either way, i'll help you fix it and help you learn how to read those errors to solve the problem youself in the future. ;)
[19:49] <Guest2> I am on another computer (windows) here and just finnish update the Lubuntu. I run it over again and then it works.. I dont have the output longer.
[19:49] <Guest2> It is true we learn when we read around.
[19:49] <wxl> Guest2: then it's likely a network issue. sometimes servers go down temporarily. little can be done to resolve that.
[19:50] <Guest2> Is Lubuntu update VLC and other programs also when there is any new not only firefox ?
[19:51] <wxl> Guest2: if you run an update, it will update any programs that have new versions for the current version of the operating system.
[20:29] <umdx> hi, how do i install the graphic driver for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:30] <wxl> umdx: what makes you think you need it?
[20:30] <epictetus> i just installed the alpha/beta test version of lubuntu (16.04 opr whatever) and my brand-new intel Broadwell laptop had nice 3d support out of the box
[20:30] <epictetus> like intel-DRI etc for OpenGL was all automatically working
[20:30] <umdx> wxl i have the resolution but i lag watching videos
[20:30] <umdx> wxl and i tried chromium and Ff
[20:30] <epictetus> umdx: what kind of videos and what software are you using
[20:30] <epictetus> youtube?
[20:31] <umdx> twitch tv
[20:31] <wxl> umdx: do you have the same problems with static videos?
[20:31] <wxl> …cuz if not, the problem is likely not your drivers
[20:31] <umdx> no, only when watching games
[20:31] <epictetus> what CPU
[20:31] <umdx> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:31] <epictetus> twitch ads might just be using too much CPU
[20:31] <umdx> it doesnt lag on windows tho
[20:31] <epictetus> especially if it's using flash
[20:31] <epictetus> flash on linux can be waaay laggier / crashier / slower than windows even with Chrome
[20:32] <wxl> technically, adobe flash isn't even supported on linux.
[20:32] <epictetus> maybe try an ad blocker / flash blocker that lets you block everything except the video screen?
[20:32] <umdx> i have ad block on
[20:32] <epictetus> what CPU though
[20:32] <umdx> nvm
[20:32] <umdx> it lags only when i have it on source
[20:33] <umdx> me
[20:33] <umdx> meh
[20:33] <epictetus> hehe
[20:33] <umdx> what  DE you guys use
[20:33] <epictetus> lxdw
[20:33] <epictetus> lxde
[20:34] <umdx> i installed i3 and was woindering something about the configs
[20:34] <wxl> that's what lubuntu is all about after all
[20:34] <umdx> for some reason it explodes when i try to copy someones style
[20:34] <wxl> ianorlin: Chicken_Wrap: don't you guys use i3 with lxde?
[20:35] <umdx> im thinking of changing pcmanfm
[20:35] <umdx> as well
[20:35] <umdx> probably installing ranger
[20:36] <Vlado2> wxl: back to that Petium M problem
[20:36] <Vlado2> forcing pae didn't help
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: then i'd try a usb and/or a different dvd and see if you can replicate
[20:37] <Vlado2> and btw. that problem mentioned on that web page affects only Banias cores, not Dothan as i have in laptop
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: barring that problem, it would be interesting to see if the same problem exists with other flavors like xubuntu, as otherwise it's not a lubuntu problem so much as an ubuntu one
[20:38] <Vlado2> well, that laptop booted just fine 14.04 from that same DVD drive and DVD medium (i use DVD+RW)
[20:41] <Vlado2> i can try ubuntu, but that will probably be the same story as Lubuntu
[20:44] <Vlado2> and btw. in the command line there are three dashes, not two as in that article