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| liuxg | when I am trying to config a snap, I get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499100/. what could be the reason for it? | 03:27 |
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| liuxg | how to set a locale for my raspberry pi device. I get the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499347/ | 03:57 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:20 |
| dholbach | liuxg, looking at the webcam example right now | 07:37 |
| liuxg | dholbach, ok. thanks! | 07:37 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I just installed the latest snapcraft 0.5 version, and I got the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13500846/ | 07:39 |
| dholbach | liuxg, I don't see that happening here... the .snap build succeeds for me | 07:40 |
| dholbach | which version of Ubuntu are you using? | 07:40 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I am now on vivid, and I am using snapcraft 0.5 | 07:41 |
| liuxg | dholbach, what is your snapcraft version? | 07:41 |
| dholbach | liuxg, I'm just using it from the git branch | 07:42 |
| liuxg | dholbach, liuxg@liuxg:~/snappy/examples$ snapcraft version snapcraft (0.5).Run "snapcraft help" to get started. | 07:43 |
| dholbach | ok | 07:43 |
| dholbach | that's the most recent | 07:43 |
| liuxg | dholbach, what is your version in your place? I just re-pulled the code, and I got the same error in my place. | 07:44 |
| dholbach | 481c79b7cee578e793baaf02bb733f1e14e1bd29 is the last commit | 07:44 |
| dholbach | liuxg, did you make modifications to the snapcraft.yaml in that directory? | 07:47 |
| liuxg | dholbach, how did you install your snapcraft? I used ./setup.py build and sudo ./setup.py install | 07:47 |
| dholbach | git clone <branch> and then I ran it with ../../bin/snapcraft | 07:48 |
| dholbach | I didn't install it locally, but used the version from the archive | 07:48 |
| liuxg | dholbach, no, I did not do any change. It complained "DEPRECATED: plugin names ending in -project are deprecated. Using python3 instead of python3-project". I changed it to python3, and I got the same error. | 07:48 |
| dholbach | that's a warning only, I'll submit a fix for that | 07:49 |
| liuxg | dholbach, yes, you are right. your way worked. I do not know how come I did not install it successfully? | 07:50 |
| dholbach | maybe send a mail to the mailing list about it? | 07:50 |
| liuxg | dholbach, yeah, I think it is a good idea | 07:51 |
| liuxg | dholbach, by the way, what is the use of the setup.py there in the project? | 07:52 |
| dholbach | it's used internally for building the package for the ppa and the archive | 07:53 |
| dholbach | liuxg, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/115/files for the warning you saw earlier | 07:54 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I got it. so for the project itself, it is no much use, right? | 07:56 |
| dholbach | I'm not sure I understand the question | 07:56 |
| liuxg | dholbach, what i mean is that setup.py in the example project is only for ppa use, not for building the snap purpose :) | 08:02 |
| dholbach | oh.... sorry | 08:02 |
| dholbach | in which example project? | 08:03 |
| dholbach | in the webcamui? | 08:03 |
| dholbach | there it's used to install the relevant file in the right places | 08:03 |
| dholbach | it's the project's "build system" | 08:03 |
| liuxg | dholbach, yes, it is in the webcam-webui project https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/examples/webcam-webui/setup.py | 08:06 |
| liuxg | dholbach, do we need to use it for any purpose from a developer point of view? | 08:06 |
| dholbach | yep, it's used by 'snapcraft build' | 08:06 |
| dholbach | when it uses the python3 plugin | 08:06 |
| liuxg | dholbach, so for the snapcraft.yaml, it is of no use? | 08:07 |
| dholbach | it is of use | 08:07 |
| dholbach | python3 or python2 projects use setup.py | 08:07 |
| dholbach | the cmake plugin uses CMakeLists.txt | 08:07 |
| dholbach | etc | 08:07 |
| liuxg | dholbach, so, it is used there for the python3 plugin during the compile process? | 08:07 |
| dholbach | yes | 08:08 |
| dholbach | so whenever you use a certain plugin, your project needs to fulfil y certain set of requirements | 08:08 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I used to compile a python project, in fact, I did not use the setup.py, and it worked directly. | 08:10 |
| liuxg | dholbach, this is the one https://github.com/campbieil/mqtt-for-ubuntu-core | 08:10 |
| fgimenez | good morning | 08:12 |
| dholbach | liuxg, if you look at the snapcraft.yaml it uses the python3 plugin | 08:36 |
| dholbach | liuxg, and if you look at the source it's pulling in (https://git.eclipse.org/c/paho/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python.git/tree/), there's a setup.py | 08:36 |
| zyga | morning | 08:37 |
| liuxg | dholbach, oh, thanks. I will check it. by the way, do you know how to use golang to do the config for snappy? | 08:38 |
| dholbach | golang and config are two separate things | 08:38 |
| dholbach | go is a plugin just like python3 or cmake or node or anything else - the way the project is built | 08:39 |
| dholbach | the config is a layer on top of that | 08:39 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I mean if you have any examples showing how to do the config in golang. Currently, all of the samples use python to do that. | 08:42 |
| liuxg | dholbach, webcam-webui is a good project. however, it involves too many technologies: golang, script, python, c. For developers, it is not easy to master all of these. I think it is good to stick to a narrow set, | 08:44 |
| dholbach | I don't know if there's an example for that | 08:44 |
| dholbach | but seriously, you can have config on top of any plugin you like, it's a separate thing | 08:45 |
| liuxg | dholbach, if is true. We can manually handle that as well. Still a programming way makes it easier. | 08:45 |
| dholbach | kind of like you can have services and binaries defined in a snap, no matter which plugin was used to build the part(s) | 08:46 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I think it is good to provide the solution in different method in addition to the python one in the example. | 08:49 |
| dholbach | right | 08:50 |
| liuxg | dholbach, I just sent an email to the snappy mailinglist for the build problem. | 09:01 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 09:01 |
| liuxg | dholbach, may I ask whether there is any golang solution to the config? | 09:02 |
| dholbach | I don't know | 09:02 |
| liuxg | dholbach, in the webcam-webui example, config.py is finally copied to the /usr/bin/config.py. how can this be done in the snapcraft.yaml? I do not see the copy there. | 09:23 |
| dholbach | liuxg, it's installed via setup.py - see the scripts definition in there? | 09:24 |
| liuxg | dholbach, yeah, I see config.py there. is this unique to the python? | 09:25 |
| dholbach | yes, in setup.py you can define modules, data files, scripts and other stuff | 09:26 |
| dholbach | scripts are automatically installed into usr/bin | 09:26 |
| liuxg | dholbach, it looks a new syntax to me anyway. I just take it for granted! | 09:28 |
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| dholbach | in the python world it's very nice and easy to use | 09:28 |
| liuxg | dholbach, in fact, there is a bug for it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501234/ | 09:30 |
| liuxg | dholbach, in the final installation, the config.py is not there even though it appears in the "snap" directory | 09:30 |
| dholbach | I don't understand | 09:30 |
| liuxg | dholbach, you just deploy the snap, and on the target, you do not find the config.py file there in the /usr/bin directory | 09:31 |
| dholbach | it is there | 09:31 |
| dholbach | aniel@daydream:~/dev/snappy/snapcraft/examples/webcam-webui$ dpkg -c webcam-webui_1_amd64.snap | grep bin/config.py | 09:31 |
| dholbach | -rwxrwxr-x root/root 246 2015-11-25 10:15 ./usr/bin/config.py | 09:31 |
| dholbach | daniel@daydream:~/dev/snappy/snapcraft/examples/webcam-webui$ | 09:31 |
| liuxg | dholbach, have you installed it onto KVM? | 09:34 |
| dholbach | no, this is just locally | 09:34 |
| dholbach | I ran the build and inspected the resulting snap file | 09:34 |
| liuxg | dholbach, strange. let me reinstall it. | 09:35 |
| liuxg | dholbach, sorry, I found it in the /usr/bin directory. However, when I ran th config, I got an error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501276/ | 09:41 |
| liuxg | dholbach, what doe exactly the config file look like? I cannot create one. | 09:45 |
| dholbach | can you file a bug about this? | 09:46 |
| dholbach | it looks like a bug | 09:46 |
| liuxg | dholbach, against snapcraft project? did you duplicate this in your place? | 09:46 |
| dholbach | I'm busy with something else right now, so I didn't try it locally yet | 09:46 |
| liuxg | dholbach, ok. I will file a bug for it. | 09:47 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Shopping Reminder Day! 😃 | 10:38 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: to know the os version, 'snappy info' and 'snappy list' together would work | 11:02 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, interesting, lsb_release -a command works as well. Description:Ubuntu 15.04. so what is the right command to turn the autopilot off? | 11:03 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, snappy info and snappy list do not tell me the OS version. | 11:04 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: well then you mean something different than I understand by “OS version” | 11:04 |
| Chipaca | because `snappy info` tells me `ubuntu-core/rolling/edge` | 11:05 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, just now, you said if you ran on 15.04, .... | 11:05 |
| Chipaca | and `snappy list` tells me I'm on revision 259 | 11:05 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate does not return anything | 11:05 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: what does `snappy list` output | 11:05 |
| Chipaca | sorry | 11:06 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: snappy info | 11:06 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501602/ | 11:06 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: and snappy info? | 11:07 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, snappy info http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501606/ | 11:07 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: first line of that snappy info output | 11:07 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: tells you you're on ubuntu-core/15.04/stable | 11:07 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: and snappy list tells me you're on revision 2 of 15.04/stable | 11:08 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, yes, I saw it. thanks. but snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate command does not tell me anything there. | 11:08 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: which also tells me you're something like 8 releases behind current | 11:08 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, so, I need to update my system? | 11:09 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: as I said, if you're on 15.04, s/autoupdate/autopilot/ | 11:09 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: very yes | 11:09 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: and it sounds like it's been trying to do so for a while | 11:09 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: it's possible the update is failing and you're rolling back automatically, if so it'd be somewhat interesting to figure out why | 11:09 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, do you mean "s/autoupdate/autopilot/" command? | 11:09 |
| Chipaca | but only somehwat, because the raspberry pi was not officially supported on release 2 | 11:10 |
| Chipaca | version 2 | 11:10 |
| Chipaca | revision 2 | 11:10 |
| Chipaca | whatever we call it | 11:10 |
| * Chipaca has a headache | 11:10 | |
| liuxg | Chipaca, yes, it keeps trying. I need to manually upgrade it :) | 11:10 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: so it's entirely possible you *can't* upgrade and need to reflash; ogra_ would know more | 11:10 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, I can flash it myself. that is not a problem. | 11:11 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: by s/autoupdate/autopilot/ i mean "replace autoupdate by autopilot in all the doc", because autoupdate is the new name; it used to be called autopilot | 11:11 |
| Chipaca | I'm not sure if we changed it in the latest 15.04, but I think not | 11:12 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, OK. I got it. thanks! I think it is good to update the doc. | 11:12 |
| Chipaca | in any case, if ... config | grep autoupdate doesn't print anything, you need to say autopilot instead | 11:12 |
| Chipaca | no, it's not good to update the doc | 11:12 |
| Chipaca | that doc is correct for rolling | 11:12 |
| Chipaca | it's also published for stable on the ubuntu website, which you can probably find easier than i | 11:13 |
| Chipaca | i just have the github link closer to hand | 11:13 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, in my place, both ways do not show anything there http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501627/ | 11:14 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: update first | 11:15 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, OK | 11:15 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/autopilot/ | 11:15 |
| Chipaca | yes, that's the *old* old doc | 11:16 |
| Chipaca | update, and let's check | 11:16 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, so, the doc needs to be updated, right? | 11:17 |
| Chipaca | that's what i meant by “update, and let's check” | 11:17 |
| Chipaca | i believe it does | 11:18 |
| Chipaca | but i've lost track a little | 11:18 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, my system refuses to update to the latest http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501646/ | 11:18 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, the new version is there. it happened to me before. | 11:19 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, the latest version is there, but it does not use it. | 11:19 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: ping | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | hey | 11:21 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, I use to report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1508368 | 11:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1508368 in Snappy "Ubuntu core does not boot into the right version" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 11:21 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, it happened on the KVM long time ago. | 11:21 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: when is 15.04/stable revision 2 on rpi2 from? and should update work? | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | Chipaca, only for subsequent images ... | 11:22 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: ^. Just reflash the rpi2 to something newer. | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/15.04/stable/latest/ has the official images | 11:24 |
| Guest552342 | what is this?? https://uappexplorer.com/app/ubuntu-classic-armhf.mvo | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | Guest552342, it installs a classic "deb" mode | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | (in its very early stages still though, the implementation can still change) | 11:38 |
| Guest552342 | ogra_, AWESOME! :D | 11:38 |
| Guest552342 | oh it's only for armhf :\ | 11:39 |
| Guest552342 | i haz none, only x86 | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | (i.e. you will be able to install debs in a container that uses the snappy rootfs as base) | 11:39 |
| Guest552342 | super nice! | 11:40 |
| Guest552342 | can't wait to land on the phone :D | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | (to make running snapcraft to create snappy packages easy) | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | i'm not sure how much of snappy will actually land on the phone initially ... | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | i think the plan is to only support the package format for now ... not an actual snappy install yet | 11:42 |
| Guest552342 | i'll be happy with whatever it lands :D but when? :P | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | in time for 16.04 | 11:42 |
| Guest552342 | soon then | 11:42 |
| mvo | Guest552342: ubuntu-classic.mvo is the version for amd64 | 11:48 |
| mvo | Guest552342: but like ogra_ said, there will be some changes :) | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | mvo, interestingly uappexplorer doesnt fine the non armhf version | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=ubuntu-classic&sort=relevance&type=snappy | 11:50 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | Hello! | 11:50 |
| Guest552342 | thanks mvo :D yep ogra_ i coudn't find the amd64 version in uappexplorer | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | snappy searhc should find it though | 11:50 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | Not sure it's a snappy problem or a LXD problem, but I can't start a Trusty image on a rpi with Snappy | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | might be a bug in uappexplorer | 11:50 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | log here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501779/ | 11:50 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | it used to work ok | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | SaMnCo-desktop, hmm, without sudo ? | 11:51 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@samnco01:~$ sudo lxc start trusty | 11:51 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | error: cannot read config file: open /home/ubuntu/apps/lxd/0.21-1/.config/lxc/config.yml: permission denied | 11:51 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | ogra_- ^ | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | i fear you have to wait for stgraber | 11:53 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | ogra_- I have this line: No such file or directory - failed to access to '/var/lib/apps/lxd/current//lxc', check it is present | 11:53 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | and ls /var/lib/apps/lxd/current doesn't exist | 11:54 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | should I create the symlink myself? | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | hmm, it should, how old is your rpi image ? | 11:54 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | pretty new, a couple of weeks maybe? | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | well, the link should be there with the last stable image and with rolling | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | iirc we set it everywhere now | 11:56 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | ok forget about it, adding the link actually fixes the problem | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | Chipaca, is that right ? | 11:56 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | ogra_- so my problem is fixed, but if there is further investigation you want to make, I am happy to help | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | well, snappy should have created the link at package install time | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | at least on a recent image | 11:57 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, ok.. thanks! I will do it | 11:58 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: i'm not sure we have the link on stable, let me check | 12:06 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: s/stable/15.04/ | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | i thought it was a requirement for the last release | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | yeah, 15.04 | 12:07 |
| Guest552342 | :| when i ssh -p 8022 ubuntu@localhost WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! | 12:09 |
| Guest552342 | Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! | 12:09 |
| Guest552342 | It is also possible that a host key has just been changed. | 12:09 |
| Guest552342 | ogra :( sudo snappy install curl.tetor | 12:12 |
| Guest552342 | Installing curl.tetor | 12:12 |
| Guest552342 | curl failed to install: Get https://public.apps.ubuntu.com/anon/download/tetor/curl.tetor/curl.tetor_0.1.10_amd64.snap: dial tcp: lookup public.apps.ubuntu.com: No address associated with hostname | 12:12 |
| ogra_ | are you online at all ? | 12:13 |
| ogra_ | doesnt look like it | 12:13 |
| Guest552342 | hm.. right i'm offline but why | 12:14 |
| Guest552342 | or am i? snappy search returns searches | 12:15 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: wrt the 'remote host identification' warning, i have this in my ~/.ssh/config: | 12:16 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13501861/ | 12:16 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: that avoids the warning, and makes “ssh kvm.snappy” work | 12:17 |
| Guest552342 | thanks Chipaca :D i'll add that | 12:17 |
| ogra_ | Chipaca, hmm, does snappy confi havwe a concept of existing but disabled config options ... i.e. similar to commented out options in config files like "# myvar = 'change to your liking'" | 12:26 |
| Guest552342 | :'( so the search works but i can't install snaps. the search requires internet, right? | 12:27 |
| * ogra_ isnt sure, it might for the first search but might cache subsequent ones | 12:28 | |
| liuxg | Chipaca, after I install the new software, I find that the "apps" directory in the home does not exist | 12:30 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, where does the directory go? | 12:31 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: not really, why? | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | Chipaca, well, i just notice that many config files have this so you save the admin from having to read through docs | 12:34 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: it goes nowhere; apps create it as needed | 12:34 |
| Guest552342 | ogra_, out of the blue i managed to install hello-world o_O. do you know if webdm is preinstalled? | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | depends | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | it is in the official images | 12:35 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: what error do you get when you try to install? | 12:35 |
| Guest552342 | webdm failed to install: the given snap is already installed | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | it wont be preinstalled if you use ubuntu-device-flash without the --install option for a self built image | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | snappy list | 12:36 |
| ogra_ | ;) | 12:36 |
| Guest552342 | i am using wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-amd64-generic.img.xz and running the image in kvm | 12:36 |
| Guest552342 | sudo snappy install curl.tetor | 12:37 |
| Guest552342 | Installing curl.tetor | 12:37 |
| Guest552342 | curl failed to install: snappy package not found | 12:37 |
| ogra_ | try without the suffix | 12:38 |
| Guest552342 | without tetor? | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | yep | 12:38 |
| Guest552342 | curl is the prefix right? :D | 12:38 |
| Guest552342 | ok :d | 12:38 |
| Guest552342 | same | 12:38 |
| Guest552342 | Installing system-status.victor - ok (worked) | 12:39 |
| ogra_ | hmm, weird | 12:39 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, you are right. I have to run the app once to get the directory. for example, I want to install sth in the docker. I need to know its path. | 12:40 |
| Guest552342 | Installing snake.mectors - ok. so i do have internet connection :D and i can install stuff but not all the snaps work | 12:40 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, by the way, last time, you said that you got a way to compile for armhf on device. do you have the detailed instruction for it? | 12:41 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, if yes, I would like to blog it :) | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | Guest552342, do you see it in a "snappy search *" call ? | 12:41 |
| Guest552342 | curl.tetotr? | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | yes | 12:42 |
| Guest552342 | yep, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13501969/ | 12:42 |
| Guest552342 | curl.tetor 0.1.10 cURL | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | very weird, then it should definitely be installable ... | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | i wonder if there is an issue with the store | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | beuno, ^^^ ? | 12:43 |
| Guest552342 | mvo, sudo snappy install ubuntu-classic.mvo | 12:43 |
| Guest552342 | Installing ubuntu-classic.mvo | 12:43 |
| Guest552342 | ubuntu-classic failed to install: snappy package not found | 12:43 |
| beuno | hi! | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | Guest552342, yeah, i get the same when trying on an amd64 stable image here | 12:44 |
| Guest552342 | so it's popey 's fault | 12:45 |
| beuno | can you find it by searching? | 12:45 |
| Guest552342 | noh | 12:45 |
| popey | obviously | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | though my snappy search also only returns one single package | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ snappy search * | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | Name Version Summary | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | transmission.matiasb 2.84.2 Transmission | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | thats all i get here | 12:45 |
| beuno | so that's why | 12:45 |
| beuno | lets try and figure out what's getting filtered out | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | beuno, well, for me, but Guest552342 has a proper search output | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | see the pastebin above | 12:46 |
| beuno | matiasb, hi! would channels be doing this? ^ | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | ah, i'm on an "edge" 15.04 image here | 12:46 |
| beuno | ah | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | which is identical with the release | 12:47 |
| beuno | so the system is just looking at the edge channel by default | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | just not from the stable channeöl | 12:47 |
| Guest552342 | i'm on release | 12:47 |
| beuno | this is new behavior ogra_ | 12:47 |
| matiasb | beuno, right, edge channel is empty atm | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | right, so that explains the difference | 12:47 |
| beuno | yes | 12:47 |
| matiasb | I published transmission after the rollout yesterday | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | but doesnt explain why Guest552342 cant install the packages | 12:47 |
| beuno | so now back to Guest552342's problem | 12:47 |
| beuno | we'd need a bit more debug information | 12:48 |
| * matiasb reads backlog | 12:48 | |
| beuno | maybe mvo, sergiusens or Chipaca can help | 12:48 |
| Guest552342 | i can type stuff in that black window if you tell me what :d | 12:48 |
| Chipaca | beuno: matiasb: a heads-up to the mailing list would've been nice | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | beuno, so is there a chance that we can make the stable snaps available to all edge channels if they dont have an "edge" equivalent ? | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | thats pretty limiting otherwise | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | (i tend to do development on an edge image, now i cant download any snaps ) | 12:50 |
| beuno | ogra_, yes, just need to ship the edge image that defaults to stable channel for everything except the things you want on edge | 12:50 |
| * Guest552342 brb. smoke | 12:50 | |
| beuno | also, developers will be able to publish to edge soon | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i saw the option in the web UI | 12:50 |
| beuno | Chipaca, sorry about that, we've been coordinating with mvo instead | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | but it would make sense to have edge packages of stable packages where devs didnt explicitly pick to publish in edge | 12:51 |
| beuno | that was the original proposal for channels | 12:51 |
| beuno | maybe we'll circle back to that | 12:51 |
| beuno | but the reality is I think the edge image should just pick the OS & Kernel from the edge channel | 12:52 |
| beuno | and default to stable for everything else | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | i dont care abnout os and kernel | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | yeah :) | 12:52 |
| beuno | right :) | 12:52 |
| * ogra_ sighs ... another 300 mails to read | 12:52 | |
| ogra_ | off for a week and i return to 1200 mails in my inbox :( | 12:53 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: wrt the directory, i don't understand what you want/need/mean | 12:55 |
| beuno | Chipaca, any idea why Guest552342 would get back a search result and then not be able to install? | 12:56 |
| Chipaca | beuno: i don't know the error message he was getting | 12:56 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: btw, install $pkg/stable works | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ sudo snappy install ubuntu-classic.mvo/stable | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | Installing ubuntu-classic.mvo/stable | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-classic failed to install: snappy package not found | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | not even if i drop mvo | 12:58 |
| Chipaca | i suspect that's been unpublished | 12:58 |
| Chipaca | check with mvo | 12:58 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: You can have my inbox if you like I had 750 I only had one day off :) | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, well, you dont want to knwo about the subfolders :P | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: oh you mean in you inbox minus the subfolders | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | yep :) | 13:00 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: maybe you should break so much then people wouldn't have to blame you | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ sudo snappy install curl.tetor/stable | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | Installing curl.tetor/stable | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | ...curl 2015-11-25 0.1.10 tetor | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | seems to work ! | 13:00 |
| ogra_ | Guest552342, ^^^ | 13:00 |
| matiasb | Chipaca, ogra_, fwiw, checking in the store ubuntu-classic is still review pending, but ubuntu-classic-armhf is published | 13:01 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, I need to install a container inside the docker. without knowing it first, I do not know where to install. Anyway, after I run "docker version" once, it creates the directory for me. | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | matiasb, yep ... | 13:01 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: what do you mean "where to install"? | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | seesm to work with another package | 13:01 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, I can only install container inside sth like apps/docker/1.6.2.004/ | 13:02 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: i don't understand | 13:02 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, the path apps/docker/1.6.2.004/ belongs to docker, and we cannot install a container in any other places. | 13:03 |
| beuno | Chipaca, if it were unpublished, it wouldnt show up in search results? | 13:03 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: what you said is true. I still don't understand the problem you're having. | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | liuxg, install the owncloud snap and take a deep look at the start script it ships | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | that should show you how to properly use docker | 13:05 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, if I do not run docker once, the path is not created, so should I create it manually? | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | (i dont think it should use anything out of /var/lib/apps/docker...../ ) | 13:05 |
| liuxg | ogra_, thanks! the app path is only created when it runs once. | 13:06 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: why do _you_ need to know that path? | 13:09 |
| amp_ | Hi everyone. This is probably my first use of IRC, please excuse me if I've do something wrong here. I have a question... | 13:09 |
| Guest552342 | ogra_, yep sudo snappy install curl.tetor/stable works :D | 13:09 |
| Guest552342 | i had no idea i have to add /stable | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | Guest552342, nobody had | 13:09 |
| Guest552342 | :)) | 13:09 |
| * ogra_ blames beuno | 13:09 | |
| beuno | Guest552342, it's new :) | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | :P | 13:09 |
| beuno | channels go introduced yesterday | 13:09 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: you shouldn't; it's a bug | 13:09 |
| Guest552342 | oh :D | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | beuno, FAVO "introduced" | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | *FSVO | 13:10 |
| beuno | Guest552342, are you using the edge image? | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | he uses stable | 13:10 |
| beuno | ok | 13:10 |
| amp_ | I have flashed the new stable bbb image (15.04) to my BeagleBoneBlack using SD card. I can boot it, I can ssh into it from LAN, but the image cannot see the internet. 'snappy list -u' fails. | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | from releases.u.c | 13:10 |
| Guest552342 | yep stable | 13:10 |
| beuno | so there's a bug indeed | 13:10 |
| beuno | we'll figure out where | 13:10 |
| beuno | matiasb, am I correct that if no channel is passed, you should get back stable? | 13:11 |
| beuno | it seems true for search | 13:11 |
| beuno | maybe not true for package API calls? | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | beuno, how do you figure out on which channel i am btw ? ... | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | system-image will be gone soon | 13:11 |
| beuno | ogra_, not sure what the CLI exposes | 13:11 |
| amp_ | What can I do to debug this problem? | 13:11 |
| matiasb | beuno, correct, CPI always assumes stable when no channel is specified | 13:11 |
| beuno | matiasb, seems true for search, but doesn't seem true for installing a package | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | beuno, well, the only place i know is system-image-cli -i ... but that will be gone as soon as we swithc to all-snaps | 13:12 |
| beuno | right | 13:12 |
| beuno | ogra_, we'll have to find a place for it in the snappy CLI | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | right | 13:12 |
| matiasb | beuno, hmm... installing a package shouldn't need a channel per-se, you get the package from a upload version URL; otoh, CPI package details, also assumes stable by default | 13:13 |
| beuno | k | 13:13 |
| beuno | we'll have to figure out what's going on then | 13:13 |
| beuno | why search is fine but install isn't | 13:13 |
| beuno | otp with the people who can find out | 13:14 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: can you check whether it now works *without* /stable? | 13:14 |
| beuno | so will wait for that to be over :) | 13:14 |
| matiasb | ack, I can check if there is some code I can take a look at to review the involved API calls; in my head, nothing should have changed for stable installs | 13:15 |
| nessita | beuno, matiasb sorry if this is noise, but isn't snappy 16.04 using edge as default channel? | 13:15 |
| Guest552342 | Chipaca, yep :d works now whothout /stable | 13:15 |
| Guest552342 | yay | 13:15 |
| matiasb | nice | 13:16 |
| beuno | nessita, it depends what image you download | 13:16 |
| beuno | Chipaca, why would it have worked the second time? | 13:16 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: so either you're having intermittent network issues, or we're having intermittent server issues | 13:16 |
| Chipaca | i hope beuno would know if the latter were the case ;-) | 13:16 |
| beuno | Chipaca, we should try and have the client expose that a bit better | 13:17 |
| Guest552342 | i have strong and fast internet! :D | 13:17 |
| beuno | it seemed like a 404 vs network | 13:17 |
| Chipaca | beuno: expose what exactly? | 13:17 |
| Guest552342 | Installing mir | 13:19 |
| Guest552342 | mir failed to install: snappy package not found | 13:19 |
| Guest552342 | but i can see mir when i search | 13:19 |
| Chipaca | Guest552342: the mir package is buggy, and i'm not sure it works at all, but try “mir.mvp-demo” | 13:20 |
| Guest552342 | Chipaca, uuu 76Mb :D yep this one works | 13:21 |
| Chipaca | beuno: ah, snappy install just responds 'not found' on network error, yes, that needs updating | 13:21 |
| beuno | yes, that | 13:24 |
| Chipaca | beuno: snappy search is more boisterous | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | Chipaca, mvo, who broke ubuntu-snappy-cli on the weekend ? | 14:24 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: how's it broken? | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | (images dont build since sat.) | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-snappy : Depends: ubuntu-snappy-cli (= 1.7ubuntu1-1+906~ubuntu16.04.1) but it is not going to be installed | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 14:25 |
| mvo | ogra_: the build failure? | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | ah, did it ftbfs ? | 14:25 |
| dholbach | sergiusens: when do you think we should do the next clinic about snapcraft 0.5? :) | 14:37 |
| ogra_ | is 0.4 out yet ? | 14:40 |
| * ogra_ didnt get an update | 14:40 | |
| liuxg | Chipaca, I have upgraded my software, however, when i run "snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate", I still get nothing. see http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502677/ | 14:41 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: snappy info, snappy list, please | 14:41 |
| beuno | Chipaca, mvo, we need to figure out what to do with the new channels behaviour for the edge image. Any suggestions? | 14:41 |
| beuno | do we update the edge image? set all current snaps to the edge channel as well? | 14:42 |
| dholbach | ogra_, xenial has 0.5 and the PPAs should be updated too | 14:42 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502700/ | 14:42 |
| ogra_ | dholbach, well, my wily install doesnt have it ... i only have 0.3 | 14:42 |
| * ogra_ checks if the PPA got disabled or something | 14:43 | |
| Chipaca | liuxg: "snappy config" output? | 14:43 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: erm | 14:43 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: sudo snappy config ubuntu-core | 14:43 |
| ogra_ | bah, indeed it did | 14:44 |
| * ogra_ curses ... so my snaps are all outdated :/ | 14:44 | |
| Chipaca | ahhh | 14:44 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: AUTOPILOT | 14:44 |
| sergiusens | dholbach, Monday or Wednesday? | 14:44 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502726/ | 14:45 |
| Chipaca | liuxg: not autouplitottogiqwerwhateveryoutyped | 14:45 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, which to do you prefer? | 14:45 |
| liuxg | Chipaca, yeah, you are right. sorry. | 14:45 |
| sergiusens | dholbach, Wednesday so I can speak to kyrofa in case he wants to join | 14:46 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, ok, which time? | 14:46 |
| sergiusens | dholbach, 5pm your time maybe? (I am lost with tz diffs, sorry) | 14:47 |
| dholbach | that'd clash with our community team meeting, but maybe I can miss it just this once :) | 14:48 |
| dholbach | so that'd be 2nd Dec 16:00 UTC | 14:48 |
| sergiusens | dholbach, is that good for you? tuesday is fine as well | 14:50 |
| sergiusens | so you don't miss the meeting | 14:50 |
| dholbach | tuesday that timeslot is the community Q&A :) | 14:51 |
| stgraber | SaMnCo-desktop: don't use sudo | 14:54 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | stgraber- Yeah, it works now. The problem was that the system did not create the symlink for the latest lxd version | 14:54 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | therefore if you look at the log, it didn't know where to find the lxc binary | 14:55 |
| stgraber | ah yeah, I think we have a note for that in our getting-started instructions | 14:55 |
| stgraber | x86 and bbb images have it but not rpi2 | 14:55 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | stgraber- Ah, I didn't see that, RTFM to me then :D | 14:55 |
| stgraber | SaMnCo-desktop: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/#ubuntu-core-snappy | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, rpi has it too | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | the bbb and rpi images are 100% identical since last stable | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | (module the hardware setup indeeD) | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | *modulo | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | (this is ubuntu-core v3 in "snappy list") | 14:59 |
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| SaMnCo-desktop | side question, does anyone know when Docker will be updated to a more recent version than 1.6.2? | 15:18 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | like... 1.9? | 15:18 |
| asac | i have troubles figuring how to conveniently setup my lxc so i have my home mounted and i auto login with the right user etc. ... anyone has done this and has pointers/tricks? | 15:19 |
| asac | kickinz1: see docker questiona bove | 15:19 |
| asac | (if it matters, i am using lxd from daily ppa | 15:19 |
| kickinz1 | SaMnCo-desktop, there has been some work, and there is an 1.8.3 amd64 snappy build already, but the armhf need some bug fixes, and I don't have time for that right now. | 15:20 |
| kickinz1 | asac ^ | 15:20 |
| asac | kickinz1: is armhf support not upstream yet? | 15:26 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, not sure if you saw the message earlier: tuesday that timeslot is the community Q&A :) | 16:01 |
| sergiusens | dholbach, oh, yeah, then wednesday is fine | 16:11 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 16:14 |
| SaMnCo-desktop | kickinz1- ok thanks | 16:22 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, welp :( i can't install https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo [Architecture: all] | 16:47 |
| Guest55Aw | classic failed to install: snappy package not found | 16:48 |
| Guest55Aw | but it's in the store | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | Guest55Aw, hmm, i cant either ... perhaps another store issue | 16:49 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, ok thanks :'( | 16:49 |
| elopio | fgimenez: the $1 and $2 are alright http://paste.ubuntu.com/13503344/ | 16:49 |
| mvo | Guest55Aw: you will need a "rolling" (16.04) image for now its only availalbe there. I expect it wil come to 15.04 too (soonish) but it is still in development | 16:50 |
| elopio | ogra_: hey, welcome back! | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | elopio, hey ho ! | 16:50 |
| mvo | ogra_: oh, you have this issue too, me | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | mvo, i'm on 15.04 edge | 16:50 |
| elopio | I missed you. Don't leave us again :') | 16:50 |
| Guest55Aw | mvo, oooo nice :D let's roll then | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | so i'm fine | 16:50 |
| mvo | ogra_: its only rolling for now | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:50 |
| Guest55Aw | mvo, silly question but from where do i wget the rolling image | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | Guest55Aw, you have to create it yourself using ubuntu-device-flash | 16:55 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, oh, i see :D | 16:56 |
| fgimenez | elopio, no idea then... the script works fine locally | 17:01 |
| Guest55Aw | ogr, so.. ubuntu-device-flash core 16.04 -o snappy_rolling.img --size 4 --enable-ssh ? | 17:02 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, so.. ubuntu-device-flash core 16.04 -o snappy_rolling.img --size 4 --enable-ssh ? | 17:02 |
| fgimenez | elopio, i would ask more about the environment, env and go version, not sure if they could affect the suite execution though | 17:03 |
| ogra_ | Guest55Aw, i think: ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh | 17:03 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, thanks | 17:04 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, Determining oem configuration | 17:06 |
| Guest55Aw | generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found | 17:06 |
| Guest55Aw | nope | 17:06 |
| ogra_ | oh, then you need --oem=genercic-amd64 | 17:06 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, same error | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --oem=generic-amd64 --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh rolling | 17:10 |
| ogra_ | works here | 17:10 |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, strange i get Determining oem configuration generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found :| | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | weird | 17:14 |
| ogra_ | when you copy/paste my line above ? | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | i'm on 16.04 | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | yes | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | :~$ sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --oem=generic-amd64 --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh rolling | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | Determining oem configuration | 17:14 |
| Guest55Aw | generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found | 17:14 |
| * ogra_ is on 14.04 but that shouldnt matter, my ubuntu-device-flash should be the same version as yours | 17:14 | |
| Guest55Aw | ogra_, ubuntu-device-flash 0.33-0ubuntu2 | 17:16 |
| ogra_ | oh,. i'm on 0.31 still | 17:17 |
| Guest55Aw | oh :D i wander what changed | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | the changelog doesnt look like it would have any relation to your error | 17:20 |
| Guest55Aw | should i open a bug report? | 17:21 |
| * Guest55Aw brb -pizza- | 17:21 | |
| ogra_ | Guest55Aw, yeah ... i dont use 16.04 anywhere, probably it is expected breakage | 17:22 |
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| elopio | ogra_: I need your help. If I put this in a bash script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504401/ | 18:04 |
| elopio | no matter how badly the command fails, the error will be left in output.txt ? | 18:04 |
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| jerryG | getting a "has non-unique elements" error when trying to execute snapcraft. any suggestions? | 19:15 |
| sergiusens | jerryG, can I see your snapcraft.yaml? | 19:41 |
| ogra_ | elopio, yes | 19:44 |
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