[00:42] <knome> huhu, ok
[14:24] <knome> ok, website frontpage now updated with our articles widget
[14:25] <knome> in the future, please pay attention to writing/copy-pasting a sensible excerpt, if at all possible, or poke me
[14:25] <knome> pleia2, flocculant ^
[14:58] <flocculant> knome: writing/copy pasting to where? 
[15:00] <knome> flocculant, in the post editing screen, in the top right, there's a button called "screen options"
[15:00] <knome> click that and make sure that "excerpt" is selected
[15:00] <knome> then you can hide it
[15:00] <knome> once you have done that, an excerpt "box" under the article box appears
[15:03] <flocculant> knome: ok - that seems painless enough 
[15:03] <flocculant> so it's bound to go wrong for me :D
[15:05] <knome> well, the thing is
[15:05] <knome> if you don't put in anything
[15:05] <knome> it will just take N words from the start
[15:05] <knome> and append it with [...]
[15:05] <knome> which isn't the end of the world
[15:05] <flocculant> yea - I understand that 
[15:05] <knome> but it's of course nicer to have hand-crafted excerpts
[15:06] <knome> and we probably want to control that the boxes on the front page are about the same height
[15:06] <flocculant> yep for sure - if the excerpt is good enough then no need to read the whole if you're not really interested
[15:06] <knome> so if the title is long (like for local doc building), the excerpt should likely be shorter
[15:06] <knome> fortunately we don't need these for old articles
[15:07] <flocculant> knome: so it takes the whole title 'as it is' ?
[15:07] <knome> title is always as it is
[15:07] <knome> you can't control that
[15:07] <knome> you can only control the content excerpt
[15:08] <flocculant> ok 
[15:08] <knome> so yeah, coming up with sensible titles is a good thing too :P
[15:08] <flocculant> short title = more excerpt room - got that 
[15:08] <knome> yep
[15:09] <knome> and when all titles are ~same length, also looks better
[15:09] <knome> but if it needs to be long, then it needs to be long
[15:09] <flocculant> yea - but rather unwieldy as a concept 
[15:09] <flocculant> yea indeed :D
[15:09] <knome> for layouting purposes, the middle column is unfortunately a bit narrower
[15:09] <flocculant> quick comment on wording for 'The Team Blog' 
[15:09] <knome> or more exactly the content area for that
[15:10] <flocculant> Find even more interesting articles implies to me that the ones there are less interesting 
[15:10] <knome> hah
[15:10] <knome> so -even ?
[15:10] <flocculant> hang fire
[15:10] <knome> yes?
[15:10] <flocculant> For more articles perhaps
[15:11] <knome> aha
[15:11] <knome> done
[15:11] <knome> and as you can probably figure out, it's easily changeable
[15:11] <flocculant> yep that's better 
[15:11] <flocculant> yea - widget I assume 
[15:11] <knome> this was just something i wrote quickly in order to have something there
[15:11] <knome> yes, a widget indeed :)
[15:11] <flocculant> yea I assumed as much, why I mentioned the wording :)
[15:12] <flocculant> and does the widget promote newest to the left? 
[15:12] <knome> yes
[15:12] <flocculant> k 
[15:13] <flocculant> I got that :)
[15:14] <flocculant> knome: I assume you saw my MP moving qa links to common reference - wanted to at least get that sorted out prior to us getting it on docs.x.o 
[15:17] <knome> yes, i'll look at it today
[15:18] <flocculant> ok - only put you as it was us that was discussing it last week
[15:18] <knome> if we can get the community funding for our own virtual server quickly, we should probably wait until that's up before setting up the contributor docs
[15:18] <knome> the request was made by lyz yesterday
[15:18] <flocculant> well
[15:19] <flocculant> not sure I'd agree 
[15:21] <krytarik> knome: One thing I noticed earlier, the Developer Area still refers to Wily and its blueprints.
[15:21] <knome> krytarik, right, i'll fix that next
[15:22] <knome> krytarik, when do we have your next MP up?
[15:22] <krytarik> knome: Umm, it's already done.
[15:22] <knome> aha
[15:22] <knome> ;D
[15:25] <knome> krytarik, should be release-agnostic now
[15:25] <krytarik> \o/
[15:26] <flocculant> is anyone else actually wanting to do anything with these docs?
[15:26] <knome> flocculant, is anyone else wanting to read the current contributor docs we have?
[15:26] <knome> my answer: i don't know
[15:27] <flocculant> ha 
[15:27] <flocculant> I meant is anyone making noises about writing stuff :)
[15:27] <knome> i am :P
[15:28] <knome> i guess i've been involved so much with writing docs for all teams that i should make sure they end up in the new docs too
[15:28] <flocculant> as far as read - then who knows about them other than a few of *us* :)
[15:28] <knome> maybe at some point i could let it go and start making others write :P
[15:28] <knome> nobody - yet
[15:28] <knome> we will do massive publicity stunts
[15:28] <knome> where flocculant 'strikes' an arsenal - chelsea match for example
[15:28] <knome> oops
[15:28] <knome> that was supposed to be a secret
[15:29] <flocculant> lol
[15:32] <flocculant> and by alll you mean not qa 
[15:32] <knome> yes
[15:33] <flocculant> :D
[15:33] <knome> and a bit of it too
[15:33] <knome> O:)
[15:33] <flocculant> that I have to then unstranglish :p
[15:33] <knome> lol
[15:33] <knome> maybe...
[15:33] <flocculant> :)
[16:20] <pleia2> knome: noted re: excerpt
[16:20] <pleia2> knome: also, yay, site looks good
[16:20] <knome> \o/
[16:21] <knome> bbl ->
[16:26] <pleia2> oh, and yeah I submitted the funding request yesterday, if all goes well (as I expect it to) I'll bring up the VPS next week
[16:26] <flocculant> cool
[16:26] <flocculant> and hi pleia2 :)
[16:26] <pleia2> o/ flocculant 
[16:27] <flocculant> didn't see our testing session thing in the newsletter :'(
[16:27] <pleia2> oops, I'm sorry :(
[16:28] <flocculant> things happen - don't apologise :)
[16:28] <pleia2> lost our core link collector recently, so it's just been me, and I failed
[16:28] <pleia2> social media activity was good on it though
[16:28] <flocculant> yea for sure :)
[16:29] <flocculant> I did go looking 
[16:29] <pleia2> :)
[16:29] <pleia2> I hope you have a decent turn out
[16:29] <flocculant> not often I do ;)
[16:29] <flocculant> well we will see :)
[16:29] <pleia2> or at least that quality overcomes quantity ;)
[16:30] <flocculant> it'll be in logs even if there are only a couple turn up 
[16:30]  * pleia2 nods
[16:30] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[16:30] <flocculant> so it can be linked out whatever happens ofc
[16:31] <pleia2> yeah, that'll be useful
[16:31] <pleia2> ok, time to pack up my laptop, off to the other side of the country for thanksgiving
[16:31] <pleia2> see you
[16:32] <flocculant> have fun pleia2 :)
[16:34] <pleia2> thanks :)
[19:17] <jjfrv8> knome, I have a few corrections to suggest for the building docs locally article. How would I go about submitting those?
[19:20] <flocculant> jjfrv8: do an MP - it's what I've been doing :)
[19:21] <jjfrv8> but where do I pull the article from? And where would I point the MP?
[19:22] <jjfrv8> or will I find out Sunday? :)
[19:35] <jjfrv8> bbl
[19:41] <flocculant> jjfrv8: sorry wrong end of the stick - all that stuff is on contributor docs too 
[19:43] <krytarik> I think he's referring to this though: http://xubuntu.org/news/building-xubuntu-documentation-package-locally/
[19:44] <krytarik> Oh yes, you might have just indicated that. :P
[19:45] <flocculant> :)
[19:49] <krytarik> Also, since we are talking that article, I might reiterate: "'fonts-droid' added in Wily too, but installed in Xubuntu by default".
[19:54] <krytarik> jjfrv8: And if you are eager to include that in the docs too, there is a pretty wide gap to be filled yet :P - https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/contributor/C/documentation.html#docs-building
[21:23] <knome> jjfrv8, send an email to me or slickymaster 
[21:25] <flocculant> cheating 
[21:25] <flocculant> :p
[21:25] <knome> wut is? :P
[21:26] <knome> or you can send the mail to flocculant... who can then nag others to update the article :P
[21:26] <flocculant> ha ha 
[21:26] <flocculant> I could update the article anyway :)
[21:27] <flocculant> but yea - I haz lp:stuff on the brain atm so assumed wrongly :D
[21:53] <ochosi> evening all
[21:53] <flocculant> hi ochosi :)
[21:54] <ochosi> how're things?
[21:54] <ochosi> (apart from sidi spamming everyone with his sandboxing project ;))
[21:54] <flocculant> well - I gave up reading anything because of that :p
[21:55] <flocculant> plodding along - no change on the enormous grey borders yet - not seen any mention of that since darkst was in -desktop the other morning
[21:56] <flocculant> other than that not much from me going on
[21:57] <flocculant> though we are running the 'how to test' session on Sunday hopefully
[21:57] <flocculant> how's ochosi ?
[21:58] <ochosi> yeah, read about that session naturally
[21:58] <ochosi> not sure whether i'll manage to be around on sunday
[21:58] <flocculant> yep - I assumed so 
[21:58] <ochosi> family time there with the grandparents and all
[21:58] <ochosi> i'm good, just really really busy and often tired :)
[21:58] <flocculant> ochosi: well - it's aimed at the new people we've had joined really
[21:59] <ochosi> but i'm plotting to go to fosdem in january
[21:59] <flocculant> ochosi: that sounds awesome - g'parents are always good :)
[21:59] <ochosi> so its not like i've forgotten about FOSS, i just need more time to get folks at my new job to appreciate it :)
[21:59] <flocculant> :D
[22:03] <ochosi> Unit193: are you still following up on the -core issue/s?
[22:03] <ochosi> i mean: are you actively pinging people about it
[22:03] <ochosi> (unfortunately i don't get to pinging folks anymore, just not around enough for that)
[22:13] <flocculant> :)
[22:17] <krytarik> ochosi: Last ping was on Nov 17th: "[20:06] <slangasek> Unit193: cheers, queued for looking at this afternoon".
[22:17] <ochosi> ok, good to know
[22:17] <ochosi> even though that was a week ago
[22:17] <krytarik> Yep.
[22:17] <ochosi> anyhow, please follow up with him
[22:17] <ochosi> likely he just needs a friendly reminder
[22:18]  * ochosi needs some sleep
[22:18] <ochosi> night y'all!
[22:18] <flocculant> night ochosi :)
[22:26] <knome> nighty flocculant 
[22:26] <knome> err, ochosi 
[22:27] <knome> flocculant, FYI, i'm eating now, then looking at the MP's
[22:33] <knome> flocculant, i lie! merged.
[23:28] <knome> jjfrv8, changes taken to production with some further changes on wording on the last paragraph - thanks
[23:37] <bluesabre> evening all
[23:37] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[23:38] <bluesabre> hey knome
[23:38] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[23:39] <knome> not bad!
[23:39] <knome> got the new stuff landed on the webite
[23:39] <knome> +s
[23:39] <knome> and it looks goood now
[23:40] <bluesabre> hm
[23:40] <bluesabre> "The Blog" on the far right looks odd
[23:41] <knome> aha
[23:41] <knome> where should it be then?
[23:41] <bluesabre> dunno
[23:41] <knome> hah
[23:41] <bluesabre> but it's like "no categories love me!"
[23:41] <knome> thanks for the input, sean
[23:41] <knome> i appreciate it
[23:41] <bluesabre> np
[23:42] <knome> well we can add categories in the dropdown
[23:43] <bluesabre> knome: I was just enjoying all the fine, lovely looking site, and then I saw The Blog alllll alone :'(
[23:43] <knome> :D
[23:45]  * bluesabre needs to work on his approach
[23:45] <knome> what would you suggest?
[23:46] <bluesabre> knome: I am talking about the bottom, btw
[23:46] <bluesabre> not the top
[23:46] <knome> put some submenu items for categories?
[23:46] <knome> well, the menu is the same
[23:46] <knome> if there are items in the dropdown menu, they are in the footer
[23:46] <knome> same other way
[23:46] <bluesabre> gotcha
[23:46] <bluesabre> also
[23:46] <knome> yes?
[23:47] <bluesabre> "The Blog" on the top has a dropdown popout... despite having no content
[23:47] <knome> hmm?
[23:47] <bluesabre> one sec
[23:47] <knome> i can't see that.
[23:47] <knome> chrome?
[23:47] <bluesabre> chromium/opera
[23:47] <knome> don't see in chrome/ff
[23:48] <knome> i believe you see it and i can *try* to fix it..
[23:48] <bluesabre> https://imgur.com/NyAEDGY
[23:48] <knome> weird
[23:49] <knome> just to confirm, can you see the same in the staging site
[23:49] <knome> no you can't
[23:49] <knome> there is no blog menu
[23:49] <knome> sec
[23:49] <bluesabre> :)
[23:50] <knome> refresh
[23:50] <bluesabre> fixed
[23:50] <bluesabre> and
[23:50] <bluesabre> the footer blog looks better now too
[23:50] <knome> hmm?
[23:50] <bluesabre> yay!
[23:50] <knome> weird
[23:50] <knome> it's the same theme and all
[23:50] <knome> what the...
[23:50] <knome> or did you refresh the main site?
[23:51] <knome> maybe you had some cache.
[23:51] <bluesabre> refreshed main site
[23:51] <bluesabre> maybe
[23:51] <knome> ah.
[23:51] <knome> explains
[23:51] <bluesabre> The Blog on the footer looked like a child element with no breathing room initially
[23:51] <knome> maybe
[23:51] <bluesabre> now its all better
[23:51] <bluesabre> so go knome
[23:51] <knome> i haven't tested stuff with partly cached CSS :P
[23:51] <knome> \o/