[00:42] huhu, ok [14:24] ok, website frontpage now updated with our articles widget [14:25] in the future, please pay attention to writing/copy-pasting a sensible excerpt, if at all possible, or poke me [14:25] pleia2, flocculant ^ [14:58] knome: writing/copy pasting to where? [15:00] flocculant, in the post editing screen, in the top right, there's a button called "screen options" [15:00] click that and make sure that "excerpt" is selected [15:00] then you can hide it [15:00] once you have done that, an excerpt "box" under the article box appears [15:03] knome: ok - that seems painless enough [15:03] so it's bound to go wrong for me :D [15:05] well, the thing is [15:05] if you don't put in anything [15:05] it will just take N words from the start [15:05] and append it with [...] [15:05] which isn't the end of the world [15:05] yea - I understand that [15:05] but it's of course nicer to have hand-crafted excerpts [15:06] and we probably want to control that the boxes on the front page are about the same height [15:06] yep for sure - if the excerpt is good enough then no need to read the whole if you're not really interested [15:06] so if the title is long (like for local doc building), the excerpt should likely be shorter [15:06] fortunately we don't need these for old articles [15:07] knome: so it takes the whole title 'as it is' ? [15:07] title is always as it is [15:07] you can't control that [15:07] you can only control the content excerpt [15:08] ok [15:08] so yeah, coming up with sensible titles is a good thing too :P [15:08] short title = more excerpt room - got that [15:08] yep [15:09] and when all titles are ~same length, also looks better [15:09] but if it needs to be long, then it needs to be long [15:09] yea - but rather unwieldy as a concept [15:09] yea indeed :D [15:09] for layouting purposes, the middle column is unfortunately a bit narrower [15:09] quick comment on wording for 'The Team Blog' [15:09] or more exactly the content area for that [15:10] Find even more interesting articles implies to me that the ones there are less interesting [15:10] hah [15:10] so -even ? [15:10] hang fire [15:10] yes? [15:10] For more articles perhaps [15:11] aha [15:11] done [15:11] and as you can probably figure out, it's easily changeable [15:11] yep that's better [15:11] yea - widget I assume [15:11] this was just something i wrote quickly in order to have something there [15:11] yes, a widget indeed :) [15:11] yea I assumed as much, why I mentioned the wording :) [15:12] and does the widget promote newest to the left? [15:12] yes [15:12] k [15:13] I got that :) [15:14] knome: I assume you saw my MP moving qa links to common reference - wanted to at least get that sorted out prior to us getting it on docs.x.o [15:17] yes, i'll look at it today [15:18] ok - only put you as it was us that was discussing it last week [15:18] if we can get the community funding for our own virtual server quickly, we should probably wait until that's up before setting up the contributor docs [15:18] the request was made by lyz yesterday [15:18] well [15:19] not sure I'd agree [15:21] knome: One thing I noticed earlier, the Developer Area still refers to Wily and its blueprints. [15:21] krytarik, right, i'll fix that next [15:22] krytarik, when do we have your next MP up? [15:22] knome: Umm, it's already done. [15:22] aha [15:22] ;D [15:25] krytarik, should be release-agnostic now [15:25] \o/ [15:26] is anyone else actually wanting to do anything with these docs? [15:26] flocculant, is anyone else wanting to read the current contributor docs we have? [15:26] my answer: i don't know [15:27] ha [15:27] I meant is anyone making noises about writing stuff :) [15:27] i am :P [15:28] i guess i've been involved so much with writing docs for all teams that i should make sure they end up in the new docs too [15:28] as far as read - then who knows about them other than a few of *us* :) [15:28] maybe at some point i could let it go and start making others write :P [15:28] nobody - yet [15:28] we will do massive publicity stunts [15:28] where flocculant 'strikes' an arsenal - chelsea match for example [15:28] oops [15:28] that was supposed to be a secret [15:29] lol [15:32] and by alll you mean not qa [15:32] yes [15:33] :D [15:33] and a bit of it too [15:33] O:) [15:33] that I have to then unstranglish :p [15:33] lol [15:33] maybe... [15:33] :) [16:20] knome: noted re: excerpt [16:20] knome: also, yay, site looks good [16:20] \o/ [16:21] bbl -> [16:26] oh, and yeah I submitted the funding request yesterday, if all goes well (as I expect it to) I'll bring up the VPS next week [16:26] cool [16:26] and hi pleia2 :) [16:26] o/ flocculant [16:27] didn't see our testing session thing in the newsletter :'( [16:27] oops, I'm sorry :( [16:28] things happen - don't apologise :) [16:28] lost our core link collector recently, so it's just been me, and I failed [16:28] social media activity was good on it though [16:28] yea for sure :) [16:29] I did go looking [16:29] :) [16:29] I hope you have a decent turn out [16:29] not often I do ;) [16:29] well we will see :) [16:29] or at least that quality overcomes quantity ;) [16:30] it'll be in logs even if there are only a couple turn up [16:30] * pleia2 nods [16:30] ha ha ha [16:30] so it can be linked out whatever happens ofc [16:31] yeah, that'll be useful [16:31] ok, time to pack up my laptop, off to the other side of the country for thanksgiving [16:31] see you [16:32] have fun pleia2 :) [16:34] thanks :) [19:17] knome, I have a few corrections to suggest for the building docs locally article. How would I go about submitting those? [19:20] jjfrv8: do an MP - it's what I've been doing :) [19:21] but where do I pull the article from? And where would I point the MP? [19:22] or will I find out Sunday? :) [19:35] bbl [19:41] jjfrv8: sorry wrong end of the stick - all that stuff is on contributor docs too [19:43] I think he's referring to this though: http://xubuntu.org/news/building-xubuntu-documentation-package-locally/ [19:44] Oh yes, you might have just indicated that. :P [19:45] :) [19:49] Also, since we are talking that article, I might reiterate: "'fonts-droid' added in Wily too, but installed in Xubuntu by default". [19:54] jjfrv8: And if you are eager to include that in the docs too, there is a pretty wide gap to be filled yet :P - https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/contributor/C/documentation.html#docs-building [21:23] jjfrv8, send an email to me or slickymaster [21:25] cheating [21:25] :p [21:25] wut is? :P [21:26] or you can send the mail to flocculant... who can then nag others to update the article :P [21:26] ha ha [21:26] I could update the article anyway :) [21:27] but yea - I haz lp:stuff on the brain atm so assumed wrongly :D [21:53] evening all [21:53] hi ochosi :) [21:54] how're things? [21:54] (apart from sidi spamming everyone with his sandboxing project ;)) [21:54] well - I gave up reading anything because of that :p [21:55] plodding along - no change on the enormous grey borders yet - not seen any mention of that since darkst was in -desktop the other morning [21:56] other than that not much from me going on [21:57] though we are running the 'how to test' session on Sunday hopefully [21:57] how's ochosi ? [21:58] yeah, read about that session naturally [21:58] not sure whether i'll manage to be around on sunday [21:58] yep - I assumed so [21:58] family time there with the grandparents and all [21:58] i'm good, just really really busy and often tired :) [21:58] ochosi: well - it's aimed at the new people we've had joined really [21:59] but i'm plotting to go to fosdem in january [21:59] ochosi: that sounds awesome - g'parents are always good :) [21:59] so its not like i've forgotten about FOSS, i just need more time to get folks at my new job to appreciate it :) [21:59] :D [22:03] Unit193: are you still following up on the -core issue/s? [22:03] i mean: are you actively pinging people about it [22:03] (unfortunately i don't get to pinging folks anymore, just not around enough for that) [22:13] :) [22:17] ochosi: Last ping was on Nov 17th: "[20:06] Unit193: cheers, queued for looking at this afternoon". [22:17] ok, good to know [22:17] even though that was a week ago [22:17] Yep. [22:17] anyhow, please follow up with him [22:17] likely he just needs a friendly reminder [22:18] * ochosi needs some sleep [22:18] night y'all! [22:18] night ochosi :) [22:26] nighty flocculant [22:26] err, ochosi [22:27] flocculant, FYI, i'm eating now, then looking at the MP's [22:33] flocculant, i lie! merged. [23:28] jjfrv8, changes taken to production with some further changes on wording on the last paragraph - thanks [23:37] evening all [23:37] hello bluesabre [23:38] hey knome [23:38] how's it going? [23:39] not bad! [23:39] got the new stuff landed on the webite [23:39] +s [23:39] and it looks goood now [23:40] hm [23:40] "The Blog" on the far right looks odd [23:41] aha [23:41] where should it be then? [23:41] dunno [23:41] hah [23:41] but it's like "no categories love me!" [23:41] thanks for the input, sean [23:41] i appreciate it [23:41] np [23:42] well we can add categories in the dropdown [23:43] knome: I was just enjoying all the fine, lovely looking site, and then I saw The Blog alllll alone :'( [23:43] :D [23:45] * bluesabre needs to work on his approach [23:45] what would you suggest? [23:46] knome: I am talking about the bottom, btw [23:46] not the top [23:46] put some submenu items for categories? [23:46] well, the menu is the same [23:46] if there are items in the dropdown menu, they are in the footer [23:46] same other way [23:46] gotcha [23:46] also [23:46] yes? [23:47] "The Blog" on the top has a dropdown popout... despite having no content [23:47] hmm? [23:47] one sec [23:47] i can't see that. [23:47] chrome? [23:47] chromium/opera [23:47] don't see in chrome/ff [23:48] i believe you see it and i can *try* to fix it.. [23:48] https://imgur.com/NyAEDGY [23:48] weird [23:49] just to confirm, can you see the same in the staging site [23:49] no you can't [23:49] there is no blog menu [23:49] sec [23:49] :) [23:50] refresh [23:50] fixed [23:50] and [23:50] the footer blog looks better now too [23:50] hmm? [23:50] yay! [23:50] weird [23:50] it's the same theme and all [23:50] what the... [23:50] or did you refresh the main site? [23:51] maybe you had some cache. [23:51] refreshed main site [23:51] maybe [23:51] ah. [23:51] explains [23:51] The Blog on the footer looked like a child element with no breathing room initially [23:51] maybe [23:51] now its all better [23:51] so go knome [23:51] i haven't tested stuff with partly cached CSS :P [23:51] \o/