| snizzo | appdevs are there any resources for migrating to uitk 1.3? | 00:22 |
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| snizzo | some docs... links in release notes are broken | 00:22 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, the notes in bug 1508363 maybe useful | 00:24 |
| ubot5 | bug 1508363 in Ubuntu Weather App "Coordinated migration to UITK 1.3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508363 | 00:24 |
| snizzo | ahayzen: ok, yeah that's helpful. Is there a change list on what has been fixed for music hub api? | 00:25 |
| snizzo | sorry for asking a lot, again :D | 00:26 |
| ahayzen | you mean media-hub api ? | 00:26 |
| snizzo | oh yes, sorry that one | 00:27 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, you could look at this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/media-hub/stable/view/head:/debian/changelog | 00:27 |
| ahayzen | note if your asking about the background playlists stuff, that is still WIP | 00:28 |
| snizzo | ah ok. Yeah, that was in my interest. Maybe some bugs were fixed in ota8 :) because I think removing a single track wasn't working | 00:29 |
| ahayzen | and there is also qtubuntu-media, qtmultimedia etc to watch | 00:29 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, ah yes that was a bit broken | 00:29 |
| ahayzen | it may be fixed *now* in the dev channel, but not the stable | 00:29 |
| snizzo | ok, no problem. It seems I'm going to implement along with stable development :) | 00:30 |
| ahayzen | :-) | 00:31 |
| snizzo | silly question: is there the possibility to try apps on a bq e4.5 simulated environment without owning the physical device? | 00:31 |
| ahayzen | we are getting there though, the music-app is nearly working nicely :-) | 00:31 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, yeah there is a emulator | 00:31 |
| snizzo | for bq? | 00:31 |
| ahayzen | its a generic emulator IIRC | 00:31 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/ maybe worth a read | 00:32 |
| snizzo | ah ok. I have an e5 but some people contacted me for problems with e4.5 I can't reproduce (I know where the bugs are though) | 00:32 |
| ahayzen | hmm | 00:32 |
| ahayzen | probably best to ask for logs etc | 00:33 |
| ahayzen | then work out if they are the app or platform | 00:33 |
| snizzo | ok | 00:33 |
| ahayzen | jhodapp is your man for media-hub if you have issues :-) | 00:34 |
| snizzo | ahayzen: usually the app path is always /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> in every device? | 00:42 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, define app path ? | 00:43 |
| ahayzen | thats one of the places for storing stuff, eg IIRC our music app database is there | 00:44 |
| snizzo | uhm... the path of a folder writable by an app | 00:44 |
| ahayzen | you have ~/.cache/<appname> and ~/.config/<appname> | 00:44 |
| ahayzen | yeah those 3 | 00:44 |
| snizzo | yeah, is that standard? | 00:44 |
| ahayzen | yup, let me see if i can find the docs | 00:45 |
| mcphail | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/app-confinement/ | 00:45 |
| mcphail | scroll down to the bit about "Runtime Environment" | 00:46 |
| ahayzen | ah ! thanks mcphail | 00:46 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:04 |
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| popey | beuno, in the store, someone shared an app with me, and it says "You can find the package in the Ubuntu Store on your device" but I can't | 10:14 |
| popey | beuno, the app is not approved yet, is that why? | 10:14 |
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| beuno | popey, the phone might not be authenticating all requests to the store yet (CPI being the key word) | 11:46 |
| beuno | alecu & co would know | 11:46 |
| alecu | beuno: popey: I understand that every request to cpi goes authenticated as of OTA-8 (as long as the user has authenticated on the phone, that is) | 11:48 |
| alecu | beuno: popey: let's ask dobey to confirm that. | 11:48 |
| popey | I'm on a phone which is beyond ota-8 | 11:49 |
| alecu | popey: beuno: do you mind sharing some package with dobey and me, so we can check this? | 11:49 |
| popey | mcphail, ^ | 11:50 |
| popey | it's his package he shared with me | 11:50 |
| alecu | btw, this sounds like a thing we should add to the click scope testplan. | 11:51 |
| mcphail | popey: do you have the link - I don't have access to it just now. Perfectly happy for it to be shared on a public channel | 11:54 |
| alecu | popey: any app would do, I think we've only added the signing, and have not properly tested sharing packages. | 11:54 |
| popey | the link you gave me in pm mcphail ? | 11:54 |
| mcphail | yes | 11:54 |
| popey | https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/share/7d5edce49c405acf4bb661b41d3f2a1249b365d5e10aa303997a48ee2627f5907a4d09168c2b28146dc1/ | 11:55 |
| mcphail | "one link fits all" by the look of things | 11:55 |
| popey | dobey, ^ alecu ^ | 11:55 |
| * mcphail can't cut and paste as he is IRC'ing fromn his phone :) | 11:55 | |
| popey | file a bug ;) | 11:55 |
| mcphail | ha! | 11:55 |
| popey | terminal does have copy :) | 11:56 |
| popey | but yeah :) | 11:56 |
| mcphail | popey: not in a shaky taxi, it doesn't | 11:56 |
| popey | haha :) | 11:56 |
| davmor2 | popey: no need for a bug know issue | 11:56 |
| popey | I love your dedication to irc | 11:56 |
| popey | davmor2, I was kidding :) | 11:56 |
| alecu | mcphail: thanks! | 11:57 |
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| alecu | popey: beuno: found out the issue: the click scope is asking the webclient to sign the url, but it's not passing it the credentials, so it's not being actually signed. | 14:54 |
| alecu | I expect we'll have this fixed by OTA-9 | 14:55 |
| popey | excellent, thanks alecu | 14:55 |
| popey | ^ mcphail | 14:55 |
| alecu | popey: I've reopened the bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1483866 | 15:01 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1483866 in Canonical System Image "Requests to the package index are not oauth signed" [High,In progress] | 15:01 |
| popey | ok | 15:01 |
| mcphail | alecu: popey: cheers! | 15:02 |
| snizzo | appdevs : /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> is automatically created at app installation? | 15:12 |
| snizzo | If this isn't the case, is it possible to create the folder via app code? | 15:13 |
| snizzo | I'm having troubles because on BQ e5 the folder is automatically created, while in e4.5 this doesn't happen apparently | 15:14 |
| mcphail | snizzo: as far as I know it is supposed to be created. If not, you can create it yourself | 15:15 |
| snizzo | ok, I'll let you know if I still can't create that folder. (on 4.5 it's not automatically created for my app) | 15:16 |
| mcphail | hmm. I can test later on a 4.5 if you want | 15:16 |
| snizzo | mcphail: can you bypass payments? My app is not free | 15:17 |
| mcphail | snizzo: if it isn't created, it is probably a bug. Thinking about it, I suspect the default apparmor profile wouldn't let you create it yourself | 15:17 |
| mcphail | snizzo: not sure about the payments thing | 15:18 |
| snizzo | i can share a click package right? | 15:18 |
| mcphail | snizzo: doesn't work to share from the store - see above converation :( | 15:19 |
| snizzo | ahh ok. Well also via mail... | 15:19 |
| mcphail | snizzo: yep - if it is small enough | 15:20 |
| snizzo | 104k :D | 15:20 |
| mcphail | ha! | 15:20 |
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| snizzo | mcphail: is it possible that folder is not created due to "There has been a AppArmor denial for your application."? | 15:40 |
| mcphail | snizzo: if the system doesn't create it, I'm not sure how your app is supposed to as your app cannot write to .local/share itself | 15:42 |
| snizzo | at the first run, my app was erroneously trying to write in places it can't write lie /sdcard/ | 15:43 |
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| mcphail | snizzo: my log - http://termbin.com/e1er | 15:48 |
| mcphail | snizzo: cerainly looks as if it is looking in the wrong path | 15:49 |
| snizzo | mm | 15:50 |
| snizzo | problem is, that click works perfectly on e5 because there's the folder /home/phablet/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.reavsoft.liveshuffle | 15:50 |
| snizzo | can you check if your device has that folder? | 15:50 |
| mcphail | doesn't have it | 15:51 |
| snizzo | there is my problem (my main problem) | 15:52 |
| snizzo | my apparmor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13515732/ | 15:53 |
| snizzo | my manifest: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13515741/ | 15:53 |
| snizzo | I could better isolate the problem by disabling parts of the app, but I don't own an e4.5 | 15:56 |
| mcphail | I'm not sure. Is it something to do with the appname? Probably doesn't make a difference but I name my apps as per the guidelines at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/packaging-click-apps/ | 15:59 |
| mcphail | perhaps your way of naming confuses the install hooks? | 15:59 |
| * mcphail is just guessing here | 15:59 | |
| snizzo | it could. Well, I don't actually have better ideas... | 16:03 |
| snizzo | tried to change name and reupload, following guidelines and on myapps web interface | 16:11 |
| snizzo | "The package name com.ubuntu.developer.reavsoft.livetouch is not valid. It can only contain dashes, numbers and lowercase ascii letters." | 16:11 |
| snizzo | oh well | 16:12 |
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| snizzo | ahayzen: are there cases in which an app at installation time doesn't have /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> folder? | 17:13 |
| ahayzen | possibly, not sure, usually something creates them for us IIRC | 17:14 |
| ahayzen | eg we just go Settings {} in QML and that makes the .config/<appname>/<appname>.conf maybe that creates the dir as well idk | 17:14 |
| ahayzen | popey, didn't you have an issue with creating directories with something? And had to bundle mkdir ? | 17:15 |
| popey | yes | 17:15 |
| popey | I bundled mkdir, mcphail bundled busybox in his | 17:15 |
| popey | (which is better) | 17:16 |
| popey | so I will switch to that in future) | 17:16 |
| snizzo | ahayzen: I have this app that only on bq e4.5 doesn't create /home/phablet/.local/share/<appname> | 17:19 |
| snizzo | on e5 and nexus 7 (latest devel) works | 17:19 |
| ahayzen | i'm not sure why that would be | 17:19 |
| snizzo | on e4.5 ota 8 doesn't. I've been lucky users sent emails instead of 1star ratings :) | 17:19 |
| ahayzen | you would need the log files from the device | 17:19 |
| snizzo | which file exactly shoud I ask for that is the most comprehensive? | 17:20 |
| snizzo | http://termbin.com/e1er this is mcphail's log on e4.5 | 17:20 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, possibly the syslog for the period when the app is running, this will tell you of any apparmor denials | 17:22 |
| snizzo | mcphail: ^^ you think I can bother you for this? :) | 17:23 |
| JanC | can't you create a directory in the app itself instead of using mkdir? | 17:24 |
| mcphail | snizzo: yep - can you give me 15 minutes and I'll have a look | 17:24 |
| snizzo | JanC: mm, I'm not using mkdir... I use the standard xdg data folder, but it's not existent (only in e4.5 and I have e5) | 17:25 |
| mcphail | snizzo - couple of relevant lines - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13516969/ | 17:46 |
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| popey | Anyone know of a way to stop the phone from locking, from the command line? | 19:39 |
| popey | I can stop the screen blanking/dimming, but dont know how to stop it locking | 19:40 |
| davmor2 | popey: no way I don't think the lock is tied to the screen blank, so keeping the screen away stops it locking | 19:53 |
| davmor2 | awake even | 19:54 |
| popey | davmor2, might go looking for gsettings keys to poke | 20:25 |
| davmor2 | popey: just remove your password that means it doesn't lock | 20:26 |
| popey | no, i'm talking about the lock when idle | 20:27 |
| davmor2 | popey: ah right with you unity8 guys might be able to help you more with that, don't know when they are back | 20:28 |
| popey | i may have found it | 20:29 |
| popey | com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout | 20:29 |
| popey | hm, that'll stop it locking, but on a fresh flash you get the lock screen, how do you bypass that I wonder | 20:30 |
| popey | phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout | 20:31 |
| popey | uint32 0 | 20:31 |
| popey | phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system activity-timeout | 20:31 |
| popey | uint32 60 | 20:31 |
| popey | yup, thats the one | 20:31 |
| popey | wondering how they do this in the lab | 20:37 |
| popey | aha! https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg08825.html | 20:42 |
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| snizzo | ahayzen: you got e4.5? | 23:26 |
| ahayzen | snizzo, nope, just a mako (nexus 4) :-/ | 23:27 |
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| snizzo | ahayzen: XDG app folders are created when the package is installed, or at the first run? | 23:56 |
| ahayzen | i don't know i'm afraid | 23:56 |
| mcphail | snizzo: just home and going straight to bed so i'll have a look at the app tomorrow | 23:57 |
| snizzo | mcphail: no problem at all | 23:58 |
| snizzo | thank you a lot :) | 23:58 |
| mcphail | :) | 23:58 |
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