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didrocksgood morning05:59
seb128good morning desktopers07:05
hikikohello...07:07
hikikoI just woke up :/ My mobile ran out of battery :/07:07
hikiko+no alarm today :)07:07
RAOFA fine morning, then! :)07:08
RAOFBAH! Who broke the compose key!07:08
hikikohahaha07:08
RAOFAlso, why is it suddenly 6pm.07:08
* RAOF -> EOD.07:08
hikiko:DDD07:09
hikikoenjoy your rest of the day RAOF :)07:09
didrocksgood morning hikiko, evening RAOF :)07:09
seb128RAOF, enjoy!07:10
hikikogood morning didrocks seb128 :)07:13
pittiGood morning07:13
hikikogood morning pitti :)07:16
seb128lut pitti07:18
seb128ça va bien ?07:18
pittihey hikiko!07:18
pittiça va seb128 -- oh, tu es plus tôt que moi :)07:18
seb128\o/07:18
seb128pitti, tu as bien dormi ?07:18
pittiseb128: je vais bien, jeu au basket hier était grand07:18
seb128"grand"?07:19
pittiseb128: "bon", Je suppose07:19
seb128c'est mieux oui07:20
* pitti keeps being misled by "great" vs. "grand"07:20
didrockshey pitti!07:20
pittibonjour didrocks !07:20
seb128"grand" is "tall" usually07:20
pittiseb128: mais beaucoup de personnes là sont grand aussi :)07:21
seb128google translator seems a bit confused as well and suggest "great" as first translation for "grand"07:21
seb128pitti, c'est vrai !07:21
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darkxsthey seb128 pitti didrocks08:32
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pittihey darkxst08:37
didrocksgood evening darkxst08:38
darkxstanyone care if I drop obexftp from gnome-user-share? so far as I can tell its useless with bluez5 anyway08:39
darkxstgvfs dropped it ages ago08:39
darkxstI doubt it even works and there are no supported clients08:40
darkxstseb128, ^08:40
seb128hey darkxst08:41
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seb128darkxst, I don't know enough about it to comment, what's the motivation for the change?08:41
darkxstseb128, merge gnome-user-share to 3.14, but keep the prefs panel08:43
seb128seems fine to me08:43
darkxstit has the binary split, and there are lots of bluetooth fixes in there, that mostly only affect you guys08:44
darkxstand even including apache 2.4 support ;) though could have just cherry-picked that08:45
seb128updating is better, if we can08:46
darkxstseb128, yes that was my thoughts also08:48
darkxstpatches are done, I'll do a merge with debian over the weekend08:50
seb128great08:50
willcookemorning all08:52
TheMusoHey willcooke.08:52
darkxsthey willcooke08:52
seb128hey willcooke TheMuso08:52
TheMusoHey desktoppers.08:52
didrockshey willcooke, TheMuso08:55
Laneyahoy09:03
seb128hey Laney!09:04
seb128how are you?09:04
pittihey Laney!09:05
Laneyhey seb128 and pitti09:06
Laneydoing good, my fingers are feeling the burn from climbing yesterday \m/09:06
Laneyhow about you?09:06
didrocksmorning Laney!09:07
pittiLaney: doing good as well, my body is aching (in a good way) from the 2.5 h basketball09:07
didrocksah, you feel better enough for climbing? Nice!09:07
Laneywoo!09:08
Laneyhey didrocks!09:08
seb128doing good as well, played some double tennis yesterday (but only for an hour, wanted some relaxing as well and it started raining)09:08
Laneynice09:10
Laneygetting cold for that :P09:10
Laneyoh look, dezrt's new tests fail09:11
Laneyhttps://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=glib2.0&arch=armhf&ver=2.47.3-1&stamp=144849007209:11
seb128haha09:12
Laneyhttps://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=glib2.0&suite=experimental09:14
Laneyall 32 bit arches09:14
* Laney shakes head sadly09:14
* TheMuso -> EOD, later folks. :)09:15
willcookesee ya TheMuso09:15
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seb128RAOF, did you say you planned to update colord-gtk in Debian? ;-)09:19
* willcooke remembered the tar command first time09:28
didrockswillcooke: it's easy, just tar cf <yourfile>.<your_ext> dir09:30
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didrocksbased on the extension, it will compress (hence the 'c'), the file (f) in the desired format09:30
* willcooke uses cvfj09:30
willcookeoh09:31
didrocksno need for j, nor v :)09:31
willcookewhen did it start doing that?  (expecting the answer 1998)09:31
didrocksjust "tar cf foo.bz2 bla" for instance09:31
didrocksa year and half ago :)09:31
didrocksso not that outdated!09:31
willcookeoh phew!09:31
didrocks(of course, same for extracting)09:31
willcookeI didn't get a letter from the elders of the internet about this09:32
didrocksheh09:32
didrockshum, we don't produce any more usb image, right?09:32
LaneyI thought the omitting of the compression type only worked for 'x'09:32
didrocksLaney: oh, possible it's doing that silently, let me check09:33
Laneycheck with 'file' that it's actually compressing it :P09:33
didrocksLaney: ah, you are right09:33
didrockswillcooke: withdraw what I said for compress then ^09:33
didrocksit's just creating a tar09:33
didrocksextract works though09:34
Laneytar xvf foo.tar.whatever works though09:34
willcookeneat!09:34
didrocksLaney: yeah, I would have hope some fallback based on the extension…09:34
Laneydoesn't mean you get to forget the letters09:34
Laneywhich is Good Unix Knowledge09:34
didrocksFYI, I'll have a look this afternoon on our language that we shipped by default, expect some seed changes :)09:35
* didrocks wants to reintroduce the one we shipped at least in hardy09:35
Laneyprogramming language or speaking language?09:35
didrocks(as no more size constraints…)09:35
didrocksspeaking :p09:36
didrocksyeah, haskell on the CD of course! :)09:36
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Laneyhow much space are you talking about?09:37
didrocksI need to remember how this works on install without Internet access. I guess we just needed to ship in live09:37
didrocksLaney: well, it's hard to know in advance09:37
Laneyno limit but that doesn't mean go super wild09:37
didrocksLaney: hence, we need to look at09:37
didrocksyeah09:37
Laneysure it is, boot a live iso and install the new packages09:37
didrocksI won't ship a big extra number of them09:37
didrocksLaney: well, you will the know the extracted size09:37
Laneyyou know the size of the debs09:37
Laneywhich is more or less good enough09:38
didrocksthen, we can still approx that package size == size in the squashfs09:38
didrocksyep09:38
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didrocksthat's what I'll look at, to see how many we can ship reasonably09:38
didrocks(more afraid about the install part, that this is still working as expected)09:38
Laneywhat install part09:38
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didrockslike, you don't have any network connexion09:39
didrocksconnection*09:39
didrocksyou choose "de"09:39
didrockswhich is part of the live task09:39
didrocksensure that we have it installed09:39
didrocksand that other languages are removed when not selected09:39
Laneywhat makes you think it doesn't work?09:40
Laneywe definitely touched this area with chinese stuff in wily09:41
didrocksdid anyone test that no chinese package is installed after a fresh one?09:41
didrocks(if you select en)09:41
Laneyyes09:41
didrocksgood then :)09:41
Laneyso I'm wondering what you have seen09:42
didrocksnothing09:42
Laneyor is it just a random thing?09:42
didrocksjust telling "we should ensure it's working"09:42
didrocksso unsure what this discussion is even about09:42
davmor2willcooke: next you'll be saying you know how to use vim, sed and regex ;)09:43
willcookeI've being using vim for years09:43
willcookemainly because I can't work out how to quit it09:43
willcookebadum *tish*09:43
Laneyunsure> you started it?09:43
didrocksLaney: the bikeshedding part? I don't think so :)09:44
didrocksLaney: just telling "I'm going to work on that and test it, just a warning"09:44
Laneybikeshedding?09:44
* didrocks shrugs09:44
LaneyI was trying to establish if you've seen something because I worked on the area09:44
Laneynot really bikeshedding09:44
davmor2willcooke: wompwompwomp.com09:44
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TrevinhoHi10:03
seb128hey trevinho, how are you? was the drive back alright yesterday?10:05
larsuwhere did you drive?10:06
Trevinhoseb128: yes.... Alright. Then I hacked till late on unity / nautilus :-P10:06
seb128oh, larsu is there as well!10:06
seb128hey larsu ;-)10:06
Trevinholarsu: I was at my parents home wich is 1.5hrs far from Florence, and I had to go back to my place10:07
didrocksgood morning Trevinho!10:07
TrevinhoHi didrocks10:07
larsuah cool10:09
larsuand good mornigng I guess10:09
* larsu forgot to say that earlier :)10:09
larsuhi seb128 & didrocks as well!10:09
pittihey larsu, guten MOrgen!10:09
didrockshey larsu ;)10:09
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larsumoin pitti!10:10
attentegood morning10:13
willcookeattente, O_o  early start?10:14
seb128hey attente10:15
attentewillcooke: trouble sleeping...10:15
seb128willcooke, how is the gedit theming going btw?10:15
willcookeseb128, - spooky!  I was just about to ask you to try it10:15
willcookethere are two branches you will need10:15
seb128hehe10:16
willcookehttps://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific10:16
willcookehttps://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs10:16
willcookethey address different issues, but the gedit changes need the notebook changes to look ok10:16
willcookeThere are still some minor issues with the tabs (borders and such, but a) I don't have time to spend looking at it right now and b) I think we need to leave something for the Google Code In guys to work on10:18
xnoxwelcome seb =)10:19
attenteseb128: good morning10:19
* xnox should scroll down scrollback before replying10:19
* xnox had the chat at seb saying good morning =)10:19
darkxstwillcooke, heh, lets put everthing on hold, and leave it for the google code in, kids ;)10:19
willcookedarkxst, :)  We can try.  It's a good strategy10:20
seb128hey xnox!10:20
attenteseb128: do you have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/maliit-inputcontext-gtk/trunk?10:20
darkxstyes, I am making a list of bugs I would rather not fix, just for that reason!\10:20
xnoxssshhhh. i have plenty of things for google code it to build ;-)10:20
willcookeoh, now I need to fix terminal as well10:22
willcookeso yeah, larsu or seb128 - gonna need some help getting the inspector to work with GNOME terminal.  I think I have to *shudder* build from source10:22
LaneyI'm used to those bigger tabs now so will complain when they change back :P10:23
willcooke:D10:23
darkxstlarsu,  are the css nodes in gtk+ going to be a problem for ubuntu themes?10:23
seb128willcooke, gedit looks fine to me, but can you include the10:25
seb128GeditStatusbar {10:25
seb128    border-top: 1px solid @borders;10:25
seb128}10:25
seb128as well?10:25
seb128willcooke, unsure why you discarded it, but without that the status bar is not well delimited from the document10:25
seb128willcooke, I included it in gedit as a workaround until the theme is updated but we shouldn't distro patch gedit for that10:25
willcookeseb128, I checked on the the old gedit and there is no border.10:25
seb128current xenial has that patch, see ^10:26
larsuwillcooke: you can do it!10:26
seb128what do you call "old gedit"?10:26
willcookeerm, the version running in my W vm10:26
larsudarkxst: what do you mean by problem? They'll certainly need a lot of adjustment10:26
larsujust like adwaita10:26
seb128willcooke, well, it looks better with it :-)10:26
willcookeseb128, agreed10:27
willcookeone sec...10:28
seb128willcooke, there is something weird with the notebooktabs changes10:29
seb128they make the wm controls being wrong10:29
Sweet5harkmoin10:29
seb128or quite different from ours themed ones at least10:29
seb128hey Sweet5hark!10:29
Sweet5harkseb128: heya.10:30
seb128the buttons borders as well10:30
willcookeseb128, sorry, don't understand10:32
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seb128willcooke, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gedit.png10:33
seb128is what gedit looks like with the notebooks branch changes10:33
seb128seems like the wm decoration background color changed10:33
seb128like the minimize, restore ones were light10:33
seb128willcooke, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/geditold.png10:34
seb128easier than words10:34
seb128I think you tab color change doesn't impact only tabs10:35
seb128?10:35
willcookehmm.  I suspect I copied something from Ambiance to Radiance that I shouldn't have ;)10:35
willcookeseb128, is it just gedit?10:35
seb128no10:36
larsuah, the joys of css :)10:36
larsu"I wonder what else this rule *could* be affecting"10:36
willcookeseb128, just checked on here, and I can see the gedit b0rkedness but others seem ok10:37
seb128willcooke, you need something use GtkHeaderBar decorations10:37
seb128try gtk3-demo10:37
seb128using*10:38
willcookehrm, hold on - it's fine on this machine.  I had a specific theme selected in the inspector10:38
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willcookecan't reproduce10:39
seb128I applied the diff from your commit with patch, so maybe something weird with that :-/10:39
willcookeI'll reset everything to default here and try again10:40
willcookeseb128, hrm.  I deleted all Amb. and Rad. copied over a fresh version from the archive, reapplied my changes, and it all looks ok here10:51
willcooke:/10:51
willcookealso, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific/revision/45710:51
willcookeincludes the status bar border and whitespace fixes10:51
seb128willcooke, you should mp the gedit one10:52
willcookeseb128, will do10:52
seb128I'm going to try again the other branch10:53
willcookehttps://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/geditspecific/+merge/27868210:56
seb128willcooke, +110:58
willcookewoo!  10 years later I finally have something in Ubuntu10:58
* willcooke goes off to find some champagne 10:59
seb128willcooke, how do you try?10:59
seb128willcooke, I opened http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs/view/head:/Radiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css10:59
seb128clicked "download file"10:59
seb128copied over /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css10:59
seb128then "gedit -s"11:00
seb128(using the corresponding theme of course)11:00
seb128still get the issue11:00
willcookehrm, lemme try that...11:00
seb128willcooke, oh, and congrats on getting changes landing in Ubuntu ;-)11:02
* seb128 lunch, bbiab11:02
willcookeseb128, aha.  I got it now11:02
willcooke:/11:02
willcookebut only in a guest session11:03
willcookeoh no, there we go11:03
willcookecareless copying on my part11:06
willcookeseb128, fixed11:16
willcookehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs/revision/45711:16
willcooketrying to build gnome-terminal from source...11:49
willcookehave installed build-deps11:49
willcookehave also done ./configure --enable-debug --disable-search-provider11:49
willcookebut it's saying aclocal.m4 failed with error 12711:50
willcookeahh11:50
willcookeaclocal-1.13 is missing11:51
willcooke1.15 is available11:51
willcookeoops, wrong keyboard11:51
willcookeoh, I think I fixed it12:04
willcookeI ran /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh12:04
willcookeand now it makes12:04
darkxstwillcooke, that is obsolete though12:06
darkxstatleast upstream are trying to move away from using those scripts12:06
darkxst(i think)12:07
Laneythere's probably an autogen.sh12:09
willcookeLaney, doesn't seem to be one12:10
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Laneyyou using git or the package?12:10
willcookeapt-get source12:11
willcookeit's built not12:11
willcooke*now12:11
willcookeand then I did a sudo make install12:11
willcookeand things happened12:11
TrevinhoiS there a way to enter in a recovery-mode like for lxc?12:14
davmor2Trevinho: how do you mean?12:16
Trevinhodavmor2: my lxc container doesn't start anymore due to some journal daemon issues... I guess it was a wrong update..12:16
Trevinhodavmor2: so I wanted to try to fix12:17
Trevinhodavmor2: chrooting there and using apt is safe?12:17
davmor2Trevinho: ah okay no idea12:17
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* Laney stabs fontconfig12:19
Laneywhat the F12:19
didrocksLaney: what's up?12:20
Laneytrying to fix/craft a snippet for the ubuntu arabic font12:21
Laneydoesn't seem to work in LO write12:21
Laneyr12:21
Laneydoes this even use fontconfig?12:21
Laneygedit is fine ._.12:21
didrocksLaney: that's what I was going to say, I'm unsure it's using fontconfig12:21
didrocksSweet5hark: ? ^12:21
Laneyoh actually12:22
Laneyhmm12:22
Laneythis is weird12:23
Sweet5harkyes, LibreOffice uses fontconfig ... somehow. at least we are shipping it even on windoze/osx12:27
Laneyit has wrong spacing I think12:28
Laneybut the right character12:28
Laneys12:28
willcookeYyyyyeeeesssssssss!  I've got a terminal with the inspector working12:29
Trevinhowillcooke: :😃12:29
willcookeLaney, did you see the blurb about Rasp. Pi Zero?  There's a "free" one on the front of Mag Pi magazine today./12:41
* willcooke is off to the shops now....12:41
Laneynein12:41
Laneywhat is that?12:41
didrocksLaney: it's all over my rss feed!12:42
Laneybah, rss feeds12:42
LaneyI've been writing XML!12:42
didrocks:p12:42
Laneyok, /me looks at plus12:42
didrocksas long as there is no xpath/xslt, you're safe :)12:43
didrocks(but arm11, as the first raspy…)12:43
Laneymmm12:44
LaneySweet5hark: could you help me check this font?12:50
Laneyinstall https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/8346050 pkg, type some arabic in writer in the "Ubuntu" font12:50
Laneyit should use Ubuntu Arabic via the fontconfig rule and does in gedit12:51
Laneyi.e. if you pick Ubuntu Arabic from the selector explicitly there should be no change12:51
Laneybut there is, the spacing changes (characters look the same to me but maybe I just can't tell)12:51
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Sweet5harkLaney: *urgh* is that a regression? anyway the whole font rendering stuff in vcl is ... "interesting" ...12:56
LaneyI don't know12:57
Laneyjust wrote this rule now12:57
Laneythere's a chance I messed it up :(12:57
Laneybut fc-match seems to agree with me12:57
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willcookemeh - they dont' have it13:06
willcookeI did see a full on Vegas style Elvis doing his shopping though, so not a totally wasted trip13:07
Sweet5harkLaney: so http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/generic/fontmanager/fontconfig.cxx has the fontconfig wrapping ...13:08
* Laney blind13:09
Sweet5harkLaney: not sure, if we ever supported what you are trying to do though ...13:09
Laneybasically substituting one font for another which has different spacing13:09
Sweet5harkLaney: there is also the fontsubst.cxx in the same dir as above. If I get you right though, you want your document to be rendered differently because of changes in your font-config. I dont know how much we do that and if that would even be considered a feature. Rendering document content depending on system config is something most users do not consider, but a bug ...13:18
* seb128 head -> desk13:19
seb128the new nautilus maintainer is weird13:19
seb128<seb128> csoriano___, btw you should make your editor display spaces/tabs, your commits seem to often alternate between those and it's looking weird/buggy13:19
seb128<csoriano___> seb128: I already do, what I'm trying is to slowly replace tabs by spaces, they drove me crazy13:19
seb128<csoriano___> so when it's a new line I use spaces, when it's an already line there I use tabs13:19
seb128 I'm not sure how good that approach is13:19
seb128 but really, tabs makes me crazy :)13:19
LaneySweet5hark: what happens if I load it on a system with a different set of fonts installed?13:20
* seb128 shrugs13:20
Laneyit's shipped as part of the font, not really config13:20
Sweet5hark(usually those result in bugs filed as "my document renders wrong on $platform", then corrected to s/wrong/different/ ....)13:20
Sweet5harkk13:20
Laneyjust turns out to be in a separate file13:21
Laneykind of annoying actually13:21
Sweet5harkLaney: usually ODT documents specify their own font fallback in the document. Also LibreOffice can store font in the document these days.13:22
Laneybet that bit doesn't know about fontconfig13:22
Laneythinking about this makes me feel ill13:23
Sweet5harkya, I dont think that highlevel stuff knows or cares much above fontconfig.13:25
Laneylike you can type any name into the selector but it turns out to mean something else13:25
Laneyeven depending on things like the font size13:26
Sweet5hark(currently 365 open libreoffice bugs with "font" in the subject: crossplatform font rendering is hard)13:28
Laneyjust one bug per day!13:33
Sweet5harkwell, there are also 790 resolved bugs with "font" in subject (198 of those with resolution: fixed).13:37
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* Laney lunch13:54
desrtgood morning, desktop14:11
didrocksgood morning desrt14:11
desrthey didrocks14:12
pittihey desrt, good morning14:12
seb128hey desrt14:12
desrtpitti: nice to see you around :)14:12
desrtseb128: good morning to you as well14:13
pittidesrt: heh, I'm here all the time :)14:13
desrtwhat's everyone up to this afternoon?14:13
seb128desrt, Laney was looking for you ;-)14:13
desrtpitti: but usually AFK during the good-morning round :)14:13
desrtseb128: uh oh...14:13
seb128indeed14:13
seb128hide!14:13
desrtwhat did i break now?14:13
seb128glib tests on 32 bits arch it seems14:13
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* desrt makes a face14:14
seb128https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=glib2.0&arch=armhf&ver=2.47.3-1&stamp=144849007214:15
desrt# GLib:ERROR:/«PKGBUILDDIR»/./glib/tests/overflow.c:100:test_checked_guint64_add: assertion failed (cases[i].c == result): (4294967294 == 8589934590)14:17
desrttsk tsk tsk14:17
desrtit's actually my fault, too14:17
desrtinstalling a 32bit chroot now to take a look14:17
desrtpitti: what happened to our gnome CI? :(14:20
desrtnobody tests i386 anymore, unfortunately14:20
pittidesrt: that's been gone for years already, it was mostly a prototype back then but there wasn't enough interest upstream to keep it14:21
pittiI also thought it had pretty much been superseded by Colin Walter's os-tree builds14:21
desrtapparently not14:21
desrtif it's not amd64, it's not getting tested :p14:21
desrtLaney: all kinds of warnings even building that test :(14:23
desrtLaney: want to just pull the patch from the tip of master?14:27
* desrt just pushed it14:27
desrtextremely silly error14:27
Laneydesrt: indeed, I would have suggested that fix15:14
Laneythanks!15:14
desrtfek15:23
desrt$5 rasp pi15:23
desrttime to reconsider my cluster!15:23
seb128charles, hey, could you get an indicator-landing organized? there are 6 "ready to land" branches, some waiting since septembre15:23
* desrt considers that the usb ethernet adaptors would probably cost several times more than the rest of the computer15:26
willcookedesrt, indeed, plus the cheapest SD card I found on ebay was 1.80 GBP15:35
desrti think it would be possible to speak ppp over the gpio15:36
willcookebut still, the time where a computer being given away with breakfast cereal is pretty much with us15:36
willcookestart a ppp session over the UART15:36
desrtnot sure if that's fast enough to support distcc or not15:36
willcooke:)15:37
desrti guess it's probably also possible to wire in the power via pin headers instead of having to use microusb plugs15:38
desrtso that means you could get a network attached server running with ~4+ish wires soldered on15:39
desrtat this point i'd probably replace ppp+distcc with something that received .c source over the serial connection (with checksums) and wrote back the object code when it was done15:41
desrtfree up a bunch of memory for the compiler15:41
desrtwould want to add pipelining so that you could send the source of the next program (and receive the binary of the previous) while building15:41
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desrt...and would you look at that.. the uart pins on the gpio are immediately adjacent to the power rails15:45
larsudesrt: hi!15:49
* larsu was in hiding hacking on nautknautlius15:50
didrockslarsu: I prefer "nonotilus" :)15:51
Laneynaughtylus15:51
didrocks:p15:52
didrocksnot bad15:52
larsuone of the problems I'm having is that many actions are in a "view" action group that I can't access from dbus :/15:52
larsudidrocks: meh. shitty connection and ssh+irssi don't mix well :)15:53
* larsu is on a train15:53
larsudesrt: any idea how to quickly export those without copying them all to win.?15:53
desrtlarsu: no good way, sorry.15:54
larsuya that's what I figured15:55
larsuhead -> desk15:55
didrockslarsu: you have a desk on the train?15:55
didrocksluxury larsu :)15:55
larsudidrocks: I do :)15:55
larsufancy german ice15:56
didrocksheh15:56
didrocksjust so that you can bang your head against it15:56
larsuthis is what I'm doing right now15:56
larsuit's ridiculous how much time I spend on a stupid menu15:56
Laneysomething for the CV15:57
larsu...15:57
LaneyI am one of the world's foremost experts in menu exporting15:57
larsuya no shit15:57
didrockslarsu: do you make home delivery as well? :)15:57
didrocksI want my menu at home!15:58
larsuhaha15:58
larsuno sorry15:58
didrocks:(15:58
didrockssad face15:58
larsuunless you live on the dbus womewhere15:58
larsu*somewhere15:58
didrocksI heard it's a busy place…15:58
didrockswith a lot of menu-related traffic15:58
larsuhaha15:58
larsunot that much - turns out exporting some of them is really hard15:59
didrocksand you didn't tackle the java ones (yet)15:59
* larsu hides16:00
larsualmost at the station - see you latwr!16:04
didrockssee you larsu16:07
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didrocksgood night guys!16:59
willcookecya didrocks16:59
didrockssee you willcooke16:59
Trevinhoseb128: I've just pushed this small change: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations/+merge/27873017:05
seb128Trevinho, thanks, I'm going to have a look when I'm doing updating the patch I'm working on17:11
Trevinhoseb128: it's not changing much, mostly I'm moving the active view as first listed... So at unity level I can know what's selected17:12
seb128Trevinho, ok17:12
seb128there are quite some changes in the new nautilus17:12
seb128I hope it's going to be fine as an user experience17:12
seb128like they removed the copy dialog17:12
seb128to make it part of the window17:13
Trevinhoseb128: the thing is that... I might in some way support tabbed windows, and associate a window with multiple launcher icons, but I guess it's not the best thing... Maybe it's just better to focus on the selected tab... While other tabs are ignored17:13
TrevinhoOh, finally!17:13
seb128hehe17:13
chrisccoulsonseb128, no one uses file managers though, right?17:13
seb128I updated the patch so we still get the launchpad progress bar17:13
chrisccoulson(and hi) :)17:13
seb128chrisccoulson, hey ;-)17:13
seb128right, users don't need a fs anyway17:13
TrevinhoThat might mean to remove even some workarounds in unity code... (Nothing really about "nautilus" is hardcoded, but  it's a condition that only nautilus has)17:13
seb128datas are owned by apps!17:13
chrisccoulsonheh17:14
Trevinhoseb128: lovely17:14
Trevinho(the launcher progresss)17:14
seb128Trevinho, merged your change, I still have a patch to update after the one I'm working on then we need larsu's menu work, then the update should be ready, but you can already build from bzr if you want to test the new version, it works fine, just lack some ubuntu bits17:22
Trevinhoseb128: thanks, I'm writing a copule of other patches as well, to add timestamp support to some actions so that we can remove workarounds that caused some bugs...17:23
willcooke right, gotta go.  Beavers helping tonight17:39
willcookel8r17:39
Trevinhoseb128: I've just pushed a new change to that branch, can you still merge it or want a new one (I've protected x11 calls, so that it won't crash in mir)?17:43
seb128Trevinho, I can uncommit and merge again I guess17:43
Trevinhonice17:43
seb128trevinho, let me know when you have pushed your commit17:44
Trevinhoseb128: it's pushed17:44
Trevinhoseb128: nooooo17:44
seb128trevinho, weird, https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations/+merge/278730 doesn't show it17:44
Trevinhoseb128: in the wrong branch :/17:45
Trevinhoseb128: it's now there17:45
seb128trevinho, still not ... or did you overwrite?17:47
seb128oh, it is now17:47
Trevinho:)17:48
seb128trevinho, ok, merged17:48
Trevinhocool17:48
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xclaesseattente, are there documentation for the libapparmor API somewhere?21:03
attentexclaesse: i don't know21:07
xclaesseattente, any example code?21:08
attentexclaesse: what are you trying to do?21:09
xclaesseattente, test your dconf api21:10
xclaesseattente, first I need to take the "security context"21:11
attentexclaesse: please don't use my patches, they're superceded by the patchset jjohansen has written: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008654.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008655.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008656.html, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2015-October/008657.html21:14
xclaesseattente, wasn't sure if those patches were superseeding yours of if it was aternative implementation that you didn't agree with21:17
attentexclaesse: those patches are superceding them, but from what i understand, the apparmor developers are too busy this cycle to merge this feature21:22
xclaesseattente, with that API we can only query permissions on a given path, we cannot query the list of ro/rw paths, rights?21:31
attentexclaesse: i'm also not sure about that, but looking at the new api, there seems to be a generic blob-getting function aa_query_label_data(), but i'm not sure if it's possible to extract the whole chunk and it seems pretty low level21:36
xclaesseattente, hm, not sure to understand what aa_label_data_info contains21:41
xclaesseI'll make tests to see21:41
xclaesseattente, a more basic question, in those APIs, how do I get the "label" ?21:41
xclaesseaa_getcon() ?21:42
jjohansenattente: well, very busy, can't commit to merging them, but if they happen to show up. I did promise I would spend weekend time to get them reviewed21:43
jjohansenI will work on getting the base apparmor lib patches in,21:44
jjohansenI've got another set of patches to send out for review that those will go in21:44
attentejjohansen: ok, thanks for updating us. xclaesse ^ it might be best to wait till the api is more final21:46
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