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| dholbach | good morning | 08:04 |
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| tvoss | mardy, mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/678 a spin | 09:46 |
| mardy | tvoss: on it! | 09:47 |
| tvoss | mardy, thx | 09:47 |
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| mardy | tvoss: damn, I cannot open the HERE apps if I'm in flight mode :-) | 10:12 |
| tvoss | mardy, oh yeah, I see :) | 10:12 |
| tvoss | mardy, you probably want to try the simple example client from location service then | 10:12 |
| mardy | tvoss: I guess OSMtouch is good enough | 10:12 |
| tvoss | mardy, yeah, should do the job | 10:12 |
| ogra_` | hmpf | 10:19 |
| ogra_` | after todays update my scopes dont have any images anymore | 10:19 |
| * ogra_` reloaded ten times already but nothing chaanges | 10:20 | |
| robin-hero | Hey, is there a bug report for this: I set up an event in the calendar and indicator-datetime shows this in UTC, instead of the correct time? | 10:20 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! š http://goo.gl/oKyw2t | 10:23 |
| mardy | tvoss: mmm... it works a bit too well | 10:29 |
| tvoss | mardy, ? | 10:29 |
| mardy | tvoss: the position keeps being updated apparently | 10:29 |
| mardy | tvoss: isn't the GPS switched off, when we enter flight mode? | 10:29 |
| tvoss | mardy, hmmm, maybe not | 10:29 |
| tvoss | morphis, ^ | 10:29 |
| tvoss | morphis, do you know if urfkill disables the gps? | 10:30 |
| tvoss | morphis, would be kinda pointless as a gps receiver is not emitting any signal, but not sure about regulations | 10:30 |
| mardy | tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up | 10:30 |
| davmor2 | tvoss: not that I am aware of as I wrote a bug asking about it and was told it was not needed | 10:31 |
| tvoss | mardy, ^ | 10:32 |
| tvoss | mardy, probably best to explicitly switch off gps then | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | mardy, tvoss: you would lose the instant fix that you get from agps | 10:32 |
| tvoss | davmor2, that's a confusing statement :) | 10:33 |
| davmor2 | tvoss: without cell and internet info agps would have no way to get an initial fix right, so you would be limited to gps only which can take a while to get a fix right | 10:34 |
| tvoss | davmor2, I get that, not sure what you are arguing for or against :) | 10:34 |
| davmor2 | tvoss: no just a statement I thought it wasn't working for someone or something, not read the rest of the context :) | 10:35 |
| tvoss | davmor2, okay, that makes a little more sense then :) | 10:35 |
| morphis | tvoss: I know there is not specific urfkill for GPS | 10:38 |
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| morphis | s/urfkill/rfkill/ | 10:38 |
| morphis | but not sure what urfkill does for GPS | 10:38 |
| tvoss | morphis, I would be surprised if it ties in to the android gps layer | 10:39 |
| morphis | abeato: you know? | 10:40 |
| morphis | tvoss: I know urfkill has some hybris* stuff in it | 10:40 |
| morphis | but if I remember well that was only for WiFi | 10:40 |
| abeato | morphis, tvoss not really sure what urfkill does for gps, as morphis says it enables/disables wifi | 10:41 |
| davmor2 | tvoss, morphis: Flight mode (urfkill) does wifi/telephony/bluetooth and nothing else as far as I am aware | 10:43 |
| tvoss | mpt, o/ | 10:48 |
| mpt | \o | 10:48 |
| tvoss | mpt, updated trust prompt shot: http://pasteboard.co/2qgdLJ0R.png | 10:48 |
| mpt | tvoss, cool! | 10:49 |
| tvoss | mpt, the elliding of the name behaves as in the app scope, elliding of the app id ellides from the center to stay readable | 10:49 |
| mpt | tvoss, what do you think of making the id grey instead of putting it in brackets? | 10:50 |
| tvoss | mpt, that's fine with me, I selected the font size as small and replaced _ in the app id with / to make it a little more friendly | 10:51 |
| tvoss | what do you think? | 10:51 |
| tvoss | _ somewhat looks like "error" | 10:51 |
| mpt | agreed | 10:51 |
| seb128 | tvoss, can you fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1382610 while you are changing that dialog? I can provide a patch if needed, but it's only switching the order of the buttons and changing a label | 10:51 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1382610 in trust-store "Buttons order is wrong" [Undecided,New] | 10:51 |
| tvoss | seb128, sure | 10:51 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:51 |
| mpt | I was just going to say, yes | 10:51 |
| mpt | I didnāt know seb128 had reported a bug about it :-) | 10:52 |
| tvoss | mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qguqwvi.png | 10:52 |
| tvoss | mpt, the description never elides, but wraps | 10:53 |
| mpt | ādescriptionā = āwants to access Xā? | 10:53 |
| tvoss | mpt, yup | 10:54 |
| tvoss | mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qgPK55k.png | 10:57 |
| tvoss | mpt, secondary text with UbuntuColors.lightGrey | 10:57 |
| tvoss | mpt, parenthesis removed | 10:58 |
| mpt | tvoss, great. Is now a good time to change āDenyā to āDonāt Allowā as well (as seb128 also mentioned in that bug report)? In my MP comment I forgot that detail for a moment. | 10:59 |
| tvoss | mpt, sure, it's a string change though, which has implications for translations | 10:59 |
| mpt | right, thatās what I mean by āa good timeā :-) | 10:59 |
| tvoss | mpt, but we have to adjust the translations anyway, as the description is no longer in the format "%1% wants to access %2%" | 11:00 |
| tvoss | seb128, ^ what do you think? | 11:00 |
| seb128 | tvoss, ota-8 just went out, translation freeze for ota-9 is not before a while | 11:00 |
| * tvoss thinks having a watermark on the trust prompt would be really helpful | 11:00 | |
| seb128 | so +1 | 11:00 |
| tvoss | seb128, ack | 11:01 |
| seb128 | now seems like the perfect time to do it | 11:01 |
| tvoss | seb128, mpt mind filing a bug for the change? | 11:01 |
| seb128 | what change? | 11:01 |
| seb128 | the Deny -> Don't Allow? | 11:01 |
| tvoss | seb128, Deny -> Don't allow | 11:01 |
| tvoss | yup | 11:01 |
| seb128 | I mentioned it on the bug you just assigned to yourself | 11:01 |
| seb128 | the one about the buttons order | 11:01 |
| tvoss | ah okay | 11:01 |
| seb128 | but I can open another one if you prefer | 11:01 |
| tvoss | seb128, ah no, that's fine with me | 11:02 |
| seb128 | great | 11:02 |
| tvoss | mpt, it's "Don't Allow" with a capital "A", correct? | 11:02 |
| mpt | yep | 11:02 |
| mpt | tvoss, what do you mean by a watermark? | 11:03 |
| tvoss | mpt, so let's assume our oobe requests the user to specify a unique image (probably taken with the camera during the oobe wizard) that was only accessible to the trust-store | 11:04 |
| tvoss | mpt, if we had that, we could "mark" the trust prompt with the unique watermark image, thereby ensuring that it wasn't faked by an app | 11:04 |
| mpt | tvoss, ah, like I specced for the PolicyKit dialogs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccountPrivileges#icon | 11:04 |
| tvoss | mpt, something along those lines, yes | 11:06 |
| tvoss | mpt, are you fine with the eliding I described before? | 11:06 |
| mpt | tvoss, yep | 11:07 |
| tvoss | okay, cool | 11:07 |
| mpt | tvoss, actually, English has this weird thing where ellipsis at start/finish doesnāt have a space after/before it | 11:08 |
| mpt | tvoss, so in your screenshot it should be ālong name forā¦ā, not ālong name for ā¦ā | 11:08 |
| tvoss | mpt, hmmm, you would have to talk the qml guys then, I'm just selecting a value from an enumeration | 11:08 |
| mpt | oh, ok | 11:08 |
| mardy | tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up | 11:09 |
| tvoss | mardy, oh sorry, let me find it :) | 11:09 |
| tvoss | mardy, package is *location-service*examples* :) executable should be in /usr/lib/{ARCH}/ubuntu-location-service/examples/client --bus system | 11:10 |
| tvoss | mardy, use tab for good measure to fix my typos :) | 11:10 |
| mardy | tvoss: thanks! | 11:11 |
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| mardy | tvoss: yep, it works. I immediately get the same location, same timestamp | 11:14 |
| mardy | tvoss: if this has to go through QA, better change the steps to use this cli app, instead of here | 11:15 |
| tvoss | mardy, yup, mind adjusting the silo description? | 11:16 |
| tvoss | mardy, perfect | 11:16 |
| mardy | tvoss: sure | 11:17 |
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| samsruti | Hi | 14:05 |
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| shadeslayer | ogra_: hi, I was reverse engineering the scripts to build the ubuntu touch rootfs and came up with this so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514952/ | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | shadeslayer, apt-get source livecd-rootfs ? | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: but it doesn't seem to be particularly happy | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: why source? | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | I just install the livecd-rootfs package | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | did you try to use rootstock-ng instead ? | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | I have not | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | it does all the necessary wrapping needed for livecd-rootfs | 14:27 |
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| shadeslayer | ogra_: log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514963/ | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | (you need a stacked build chroot for it) | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: oh, but I need to modify some stuff like package-lists | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock-ng | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | ( see http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/customizations.tar.gz ) | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | right, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz is something I need to modify then right, because rootstock-ng doesn't do that | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | rootstock-touch is what you want ... | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | it allows you to add PPAs | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | (it hasnt been maintained since i stopped working on the phone so it might need some adjustments) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | so i guess you could set up a PPA and upload a modified metapackage to that to get your different package set | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: all of that's already setup, the meta package is called differently though | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | and I'm mostly having issues with the live build hooks really | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | well,. they are rather specific for the particular target indeed | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | right, except they don't seem to work even with no modifications for me :) | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | but seem to work just fine on launchpad | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | why dont you just integrate it properly instead and get a system-image people can just switch to | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, that'd be the correct way of doing it, yes | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | (it could be a channel... then you can just switch channels with a single command on any ubuntu phone out there and our UI will just work ) | 14:33 |
| tvoss | mpt, seb128 so what would be sensible behavior if we cannot find an icon? | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | shadeslayer, well, i dont care about correct/incorrect ... but it would get you immediately a ton of devices out there without you having to care at all | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | mmhm | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | like ... every ubuntu phone | 14:34 |
| * shadeslayer will poke someone | 14:34 | |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: right | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | sudo system-image-cli --switch=plasma-phone-channel .... | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | ;) | 14:34 |
| mpt | tvoss, that question should be answered by the āgive me the icon for this appā API that is also responsible for rounding the corners etc | 14:34 |
| mpt | tvoss, Iām guessing that API doesnāt currently exist? :-] | 14:35 |
| tvoss | mpt, well, that api shouldn't handle corner rounding at any rate :) | 14:35 |
| mpt | What should, then? | 14:35 |
| Elleo | sil2100: heya; having a bit of trouble getting silo 17 working after switching it to vivid only; changed a few of the MRs to new vivid specific ones but getting odd "not a branch" bzr errors show up, does it need cleaning again in some way? or am I doing something else wrong? | 14:35 |
| tvoss | mpt, well, the component responsible for actually rendering the icon obviously | 14:35 |
| tvoss | mpt, but that's a different question | 14:36 |
| ogra_ | shadeslayer, in any case, i'd recommend using rootstock-touch to get the right build env setup | 14:36 |
| sil2100 | Elleo: let me take a look, uno momento | 14:36 |
| ogra_ | if you do it out of archive | 14:36 |
| mpt | tvoss, ok, so I should have said ācomponentā rather than āAPIā ā¦ Anyway, Iād expect that component to display a placeholder of some sort if it still hasnāt loaded the real icon after ~1 second | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: ack, I'm looking into it | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | and seeing what's blocking us from uploading to launchpad and using the livefs builds | 14:38 |
| tvoss | mpt, that's not how our ui framework operates. anyway: I will ask the u8 guys | 14:38 |
| Elleo | sil2100: thanks | 14:39 |
| mpt | tvoss, Iād expect it to be exactly the same placeholder regardless of whether itās showing (or trying to show) an app icon in the Dash, in a System Settings screen, in a trust prompt, or anywhere else | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: I've been told that we would at the very least need a PPA with actual real arm hw | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | because qemu'd builds won't cut it | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | which is why we build the packages from our own CI at the moment | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: is there a way to make that happen? | 14:44 |
| popey | shadeslayer, you can request a real hardware armhf builder, but in launchpad I believe they're restricted (for security reasons) to Canonical employees only. | 15:08 |
| popey | shadeslayer, the other option being buy a few cheap chromebook / raspberry pi / beaglebone / odroid .. ;) | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | popey: I have arm builders from my company, but then we can't leverage lp for the livefs builds ;) | 15:10 |
| popey | Right, bummer | 15:10 |
| k1l | iirc you can request PPAs to be build for arm too. | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | qemu'd | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | won't work for some of the KDE packages | 15:11 |
| k1l | ah ok | 15:11 |
| * shadeslayer has a idea | 15:11 | |
| sil2100 | Elleo: still looking, but it looks like an internal issue, so not something you did wrong | 15:13 |
| Elleo | sil2100: okay, thanks | 15:15 |
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| Elleo | sil2100: not sure if I might need to ask people for other MRs targetting their respective vivid branches as well now that it's vivid only? | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: isn't there a way to specify the ubuntu rootfs via ubuntu-device-flash :( | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | nope | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | damn :( | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | I guess I can reuse the rootstock stuff to convert it into a image and fastboot flash that instead | 15:25 |
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| sil2100 | Elleo: hmmm, ok, silo building... I actually tried building with 'indicator-transfer' mentioned explicitly and it worked | 15:37 |
| sil2100 | Elleo: I suppose it might be also a leftover from one of the transitions Robert was doing in the train, so not related even to your switch from dual to vivid | 15:38 |
| sil2100 | Elleo: most probably once this finishes, there should be no further problems as I see it re-created the indicator-transfer directories | 15:38 |
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| shadeslayer | ogra_: so, I ran rootstock-touch-install on a tarball I have, and then ... nothing | 15:49 |
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| shadeslayer | do I have to reboot into recovery again? | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | shadeslayer, there is a README, in the tree ... | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | i'm not sure it still works ... as i said it has been unmaintained quite a while | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | (the -install script) | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | mhmm | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | also it can only work on nexus devices ... | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | I'm using a E5 | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | readme has a typo btw :P | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | ./rootsotck-touch-install | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | ah, yeah, the production phones use actual partitions where the nexus devices use loop mounted images | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | (so the partitioning doesnt need to be changed on developer devices) | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | the install script only handles the loop case | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | okay, is it possible to manually untar the tarball onto the right partition then? | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | you can try ;) no idea | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: oh and the custom tarball is unpacked ontop of the rootfs right? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | yeah ... but the bits use specific dirs iirc | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :/ | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | ypou have to check the code | 15:59 |
| Elleo | sil2100: cool, thanks | 16:00 |
| Elleo | sil2100: erk, it's showing a similar error for ubuntu-system-settings now | 16:00 |
| Elleo | sil2100: do I just ask it to build ubuntu-system-settings on its own? | 16:01 |
| Elleo | sil2100: ah yeah, that seems to be working | 16:01 |
| sil2100 | Elleo: yeah... | 16:02 |
| Elleo | sil2100: guess I might have to do that for the others too | 16:02 |
| sil2100 | I think this might need repeating ;/ | 16:02 |
| sil2100 | It looks like a train bug to me | 16:02 |
| Elleo | sil2100: it's entirely possible it's something I messed up, as I've been adding and removing MRs a bit after the switch from dual to vivid | 16:02 |
| tvoss | mardy, updated to account for security request and design guidelines: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/fix-1504022/+merge/278418 | 16:17 |
| mardy | tvoss: mmm... I might need to do something similar in OA... | 16:19 |
| tvoss | mardy, please elaborate | 16:19 |
| mardy | mpt: I guess we need to update the OA permission request screen in a similar way? | 16:20 |
| mardy | tvoss: in Online Accounts we also have a permission request screen, which is a bit more complex that this | 16:20 |
| mpt | mardy, hmm, yes | 16:20 |
| mardy | mpt: I wonder if space might be a problem there | 16:21 |
| mardy | well, I guess not | 16:21 |
| tvoss | mardy, ah okay | 16:23 |
| mardy | tvoss: that screeenshot is coming from that QML file? | 16:28 |
| tvoss | mardy, yup | 16:28 |
| mardy | tvoss: I thought that one had to set the anchors on Column in order to make it use the full width of the parent | 16:29 |
| mardy | tvoss: but if it's smarter than I thought, all the better :-) | 16:29 |
| mardy | tvoss: reapproved :-) | 16:30 |
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| tvoss | mardy, would you mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657 a spin? | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: hurray, I hacked up ubuntu_command to flash my image after flashing ubuntu on the E5 :P | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | still not happy though [ 111.076811]systemd-logind[5359]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@32011.service | 17:09 |
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| Elleo | sil2100: heya, any idea what causes the "Not in PPA" errors? | 17:21 |
| Elleo | sil2100: (still with silo 17) | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | shadeslayer, weird, given the phone does not use systemd at all | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | oh, wait, thats only logind | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: mmh, well, presumably there's other stuff going on as well on account of it being plasma and not unity :) | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | yeah, llikely | 17:27 |
| * shadeslayer tries flashing without formatting /system | 17:27 | |
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