=== xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix === salem_ is now known as _salem === mwenning is now known as mwenning-afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === Foxmaster is now known as zz_Foxmaster === zz_Foxmaster is now known as Foxmaster === M-davidar1 is now known as davidar_ === cptmashek_ is now known as cptmashek === everbrew_ is now known as everbrew === ahoneybu- is now known as ahoneybun === rpadovani_ is now known as rpadovani === Cimi_ is now known as cimi === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [08:04] good morning === dlan_ is now known as dlan === ara is now known as Guest26179 === nhaines_ is now known as nhaines === Foxmaster is now known as zz_Foxmaster === Thaurwyl1h is now known as Thaurwylth === zz_Foxmaster is now known as Foxmaster [09:46] mardy, mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/678 a spin [09:47] tvoss: on it! [09:47] mardy, thx === Foxmaster is now known as zz_Foxmaster === zz_Foxmaster is now known as Foxmaster === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:12] tvoss: damn, I cannot open the HERE apps if I'm in flight mode :-) [10:12] mardy, oh yeah, I see :) [10:12] mardy, you probably want to try the simple example client from location service then [10:12] tvoss: I guess OSMtouch is good enough [10:12] mardy, yeah, should do the job [10:19] hmpf [10:19] after todays update my scopes dont have any images anymore [10:20] * ogra_` reloaded ten times already but nothing chaanges [10:20] Hey, is there a bug report for this: I set up an event in the calendar and indicator-datetime shows this in UTC, instead of the correct time? [10:23] Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t [10:29] tvoss: mmm... it works a bit too well [10:29] mardy, ? [10:29] tvoss: the position keeps being updated apparently [10:29] tvoss: isn't the GPS switched off, when we enter flight mode? [10:29] mardy, hmmm, maybe not [10:29] morphis, ^ [10:30] morphis, do you know if urfkill disables the gps? [10:30] morphis, would be kinda pointless as a gps receiver is not emitting any signal, but not sure about regulations [10:30] tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up [10:31] tvoss: not that I am aware of as I wrote a bug asking about it and was told it was not needed [10:32] mardy, ^ [10:32] mardy, probably best to explicitly switch off gps then [10:32] mardy, tvoss: you would lose the instant fix that you get from agps [10:33] davmor2, that's a confusing statement :) [10:34] tvoss: without cell and internet info agps would have no way to get an initial fix right, so you would be limited to gps only which can take a while to get a fix right [10:34] davmor2, I get that, not sure what you are arguing for or against :) [10:35] tvoss: no just a statement I thought it wasn't working for someone or something, not read the rest of the context :) [10:35] davmor2, okay, that makes a little more sense then :) [10:38] tvoss: I know there is not specific urfkill for GPS === dgadomski__ is now known as dgadomski [10:38] s/urfkill/rfkill/ [10:38] but not sure what urfkill does for GPS [10:39] morphis, I would be surprised if it ties in to the android gps layer [10:40] abeato: you know? [10:40] tvoss: I know urfkill has some hybris* stuff in it [10:40] but if I remember well that was only for WiFi [10:41] morphis, tvoss not really sure what urfkill does for gps, as morphis says it enables/disables wifi [10:43] tvoss, morphis: Flight mode (urfkill) does wifi/telephony/bluetooth and nothing else as far as I am aware [10:48] mpt, o/ [10:48] \o [10:48] mpt, updated trust prompt shot: http://pasteboard.co/2qgdLJ0R.png [10:49] tvoss, cool! [10:49] mpt, the elliding of the name behaves as in the app scope, elliding of the app id ellides from the center to stay readable [10:50] tvoss, what do you think of making the id grey instead of putting it in brackets? [10:51] mpt, that's fine with me, I selected the font size as small and replaced _ in the app id with / to make it a little more friendly [10:51] what do you think? [10:51] _ somewhat looks like "error" [10:51] agreed [10:51] tvoss, can you fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/trust-store/+bug/1382610 while you are changing that dialog? I can provide a patch if needed, but it's only switching the order of the buttons and changing a label [10:51] Ubuntu bug 1382610 in trust-store "Buttons order is wrong" [Undecided,New] [10:51] seb128, sure [10:51] thanks [10:51] I was just going to say, yes [10:52] I didn’t know seb128 had reported a bug about it :-) [10:52] mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qguqwvi.png [10:53] mpt, the description never elides, but wraps [10:53] “description” = “wants to access X”? [10:54] mpt, yup [10:57] mpt, http://pasteboard.co/2qgPK55k.png [10:57] mpt, secondary text with UbuntuColors.lightGrey [10:58] mpt, parenthesis removed [10:59] tvoss, great. Is now a good time to change “Deny” to “Don’t Allow” as well (as seb128 also mentioned in that bug report)? In my MP comment I forgot that detail for a moment. [10:59] mpt, sure, it's a string change though, which has implications for translations [10:59] right, that’s what I mean by “a good time” :-) [11:00] mpt, but we have to adjust the translations anyway, as the description is no longer in the format "%1% wants to access %2%" [11:00] seb128, ^ what do you think? [11:00] tvoss, ota-8 just went out, translation freeze for ota-9 is not before a while [11:00] * tvoss thinks having a watermark on the trust prompt would be really helpful [11:00] so +1 [11:01] seb128, ack [11:01] now seems like the perfect time to do it [11:01] seb128, mpt mind filing a bug for the change? [11:01] what change? [11:01] the Deny -> Don't Allow? [11:01] seb128, Deny -> Don't allow [11:01] yup [11:01] I mentioned it on the bug you just assigned to yourself [11:01] the one about the buttons order [11:01] ah okay [11:01] but I can open another one if you prefer [11:02] seb128, ah no, that's fine with me [11:02] great [11:02] mpt, it's "Don't Allow" with a capital "A", correct? [11:02] yep [11:03] tvoss, what do you mean by a watermark? [11:04] mpt, so let's assume our oobe requests the user to specify a unique image (probably taken with the camera during the oobe wizard) that was only accessible to the trust-store [11:04] mpt, if we had that, we could "mark" the trust prompt with the unique watermark image, thereby ensuring that it wasn't faked by an app [11:04] tvoss, ah, like I specced for the PolicyKit dialogs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccountPrivileges#icon [11:06] mpt, something along those lines, yes [11:06] mpt, are you fine with the eliding I described before? [11:07] tvoss, yep [11:07] okay, cool [11:08] tvoss, actually, English has this weird thing where ellipsis at start/finish doesn’t have a space after/before it [11:08] tvoss, so in your screenshot it should be “long name for…”, not “long name for …” [11:08] mpt, hmmm, you would have to talk the qml guys then, I'm just selecting a value from an enumeration [11:08] oh, ok [11:09] tvoss: what's the name of the location command line client? Just want to make sure that OSMtouch is not messing up [11:09] mardy, oh sorry, let me find it :) [11:10] mardy, package is *location-service*examples* :) executable should be in /usr/lib/{ARCH}/ubuntu-location-service/examples/client --bus system [11:10] mardy, use tab for good measure to fix my typos :) [11:11] tvoss: thanks! === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:14] tvoss: yep, it works. I immediately get the same location, same timestamp [11:15] tvoss: if this has to go through QA, better change the steps to use this cli app, instead of here [11:16] mardy, yup, mind adjusting the silo description? [11:16] mardy, perfect [11:17] tvoss: sure === boiko_ is now known as boiko === ogra_` is now known as ogra_ === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh === joc_ is now known as joc|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === Per_ is now known as reswob === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === joc|lunch is now known as joc_ [14:05] Hi === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:26] ogra_: hi, I was reverse engineering the scripts to build the ubuntu touch rootfs and came up with this so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514952/ [14:26] shadeslayer, apt-get source livecd-rootfs ? [14:26] ogra_: but it doesn't seem to be particularly happy [14:26] ogra_: why source? [14:27] I just install the livecd-rootfs package [14:27] did you try to use rootstock-ng instead ? [14:27] I have not [14:27] it does all the necessary wrapping needed for livecd-rootfs === tobiasBo1 is now known as tobiasBora [14:27] ogra_: log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514963/ [14:27] (you need a stacked build chroot for it) [14:27] ogra_: oh, but I need to modify some stuff like package-lists [14:27] https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock-ng [14:27] ( see http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/customizations.tar.gz ) [14:28] right, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz is something I need to modify then right, because rootstock-ng doesn't do that [14:28] rootstock-touch is what you want ... [14:29] oh [14:29] it allows you to add PPAs [14:29] (it hasnt been maintained since i stopped working on the phone so it might need some adjustments) [14:29] ok [14:30] so i guess you could set up a PPA and upload a modified metapackage to that to get your different package set [14:30] ogra_: all of that's already setup, the meta package is called differently though [14:30] and I'm mostly having issues with the live build hooks really [14:31] well,. they are rather specific for the particular target indeed [14:31] right, except they don't seem to work even with no modifications for me :) [14:32] but seem to work just fine on launchpad [14:32] why dont you just integrate it properly instead and get a system-image people can just switch to [14:32] yeah, that'd be the correct way of doing it, yes [14:33] (it could be a channel... then you can just switch channels with a single command on any ubuntu phone out there and our UI will just work ) [14:33] mpt, seb128 so what would be sensible behavior if we cannot find an icon? [14:33] shadeslayer, well, i dont care about correct/incorrect ... but it would get you immediately a ton of devices out there without you having to care at all [14:33] mmhm [14:34] like ... every ubuntu phone [14:34] * shadeslayer will poke someone [14:34] ogra_: right [14:34] sudo system-image-cli --switch=plasma-phone-channel .... [14:34] ;) [14:34] tvoss, that question should be answered by the “give me the icon for this app” API that is also responsible for rounding the corners etc [14:35] tvoss, I’m guessing that API doesn’t currently exist? :-] [14:35] mpt, well, that api shouldn't handle corner rounding at any rate :) [14:35] What should, then? [14:35] sil2100: heya; having a bit of trouble getting silo 17 working after switching it to vivid only; changed a few of the MRs to new vivid specific ones but getting odd "not a branch" bzr errors show up, does it need cleaning again in some way? or am I doing something else wrong? [14:35] mpt, well, the component responsible for actually rendering the icon obviously [14:36] mpt, but that's a different question [14:36] shadeslayer, in any case, i'd recommend using rootstock-touch to get the right build env setup [14:36] Elleo: let me take a look, uno momento [14:36] if you do it out of archive [14:37] tvoss, ok, so I should have said “component” rather than “API” … Anyway, I’d expect that component to display a placeholder of some sort if it still hasn’t loaded the real icon after ~1 second [14:38] ogra_: ack, I'm looking into it [14:38] and seeing what's blocking us from uploading to launchpad and using the livefs builds [14:38] mpt, that's not how our ui framework operates. anyway: I will ask the u8 guys [14:39] sil2100: thanks [14:41] tvoss, I’d expect it to be exactly the same placeholder regardless of whether it’s showing (or trying to show) an app icon in the Dash, in a System Settings screen, in a trust prompt, or anywhere else [14:44] ogra_: I've been told that we would at the very least need a PPA with actual real arm hw [14:44] because qemu'd builds won't cut it [14:44] which is why we build the packages from our own CI at the moment [14:44] ogra_: is there a way to make that happen? [15:08] shadeslayer, you can request a real hardware armhf builder, but in launchpad I believe they're restricted (for security reasons) to Canonical employees only. [15:09] shadeslayer, the other option being buy a few cheap chromebook / raspberry pi / beaglebone / odroid .. ;) [15:10] popey: I have arm builders from my company, but then we can't leverage lp for the livefs builds ;) [15:10] Right, bummer [15:10] iirc you can request PPAs to be build for arm too. [15:10] qemu'd [15:11] won't work for some of the KDE packages [15:11] ah ok [15:11] * shadeslayer has a idea [15:13] Elleo: still looking, but it looks like an internal issue, so not something you did wrong [15:15] sil2100: okay, thanks === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:16] sil2100: not sure if I might need to ask people for other MRs targetting their respective vivid branches as well now that it's vivid only? [15:24] ogra_: isn't there a way to specify the ubuntu rootfs via ubuntu-device-flash :( [15:24] nope [15:24] damn :( [15:25] I guess I can reuse the rootstock stuff to convert it into a image and fastboot flash that instead === BOHverkill is now known as BOHverkill___ [15:37] Elleo: hmmm, ok, silo building... I actually tried building with 'indicator-transfer' mentioned explicitly and it worked [15:38] Elleo: I suppose it might be also a leftover from one of the transitions Robert was doing in the train, so not related even to your switch from dual to vivid [15:38] Elleo: most probably once this finishes, there should be no further problems as I see it re-created the indicator-transfer directories === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:49] ogra_: so, I ran rootstock-touch-install on a tarball I have, and then ... nothing === _Kai__ is now known as _Kai_ [15:50] do I have to reboot into recovery again? [15:52] shadeslayer, there is a README, in the tree ... [15:52] i'm not sure it still works ... as i said it has been unmaintained quite a while [15:52] (the -install script) [15:52] mhmm [15:52] also it can only work on nexus devices ... [15:53] ah [15:53] I'm using a E5 [15:53] readme has a typo btw :P [15:53] ./rootsotck-touch-install [15:53] ah, yeah, the production phones use actual partitions where the nexus devices use loop mounted images [15:54] (so the partitioning doesnt need to be changed on developer devices) [15:54] the install script only handles the loop case [15:54] okay, is it possible to manually untar the tarball onto the right partition then? [15:55] you can try ;) no idea [15:58] ogra_: oh and the custom tarball is unpacked ontop of the rootfs right? [15:58] yeah ... but the bits use specific dirs iirc [15:59] yeah :/ [15:59] ypou have to check the code [16:00] sil2100: cool, thanks [16:00] sil2100: erk, it's showing a similar error for ubuntu-system-settings now [16:01] sil2100: do I just ask it to build ubuntu-system-settings on its own? [16:01] sil2100: ah yeah, that seems to be working [16:02] Elleo: yeah... [16:02] sil2100: guess I might have to do that for the others too [16:02] I think this might need repeating ;/ [16:02] It looks like a train bug to me [16:02] sil2100: it's entirely possible it's something I messed up, as I've been adding and removing MRs a bit after the switch from dual to vivid [16:17] mardy, updated to account for security request and design guidelines: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/fix-1504022/+merge/278418 [16:19] tvoss: mmm... I might need to do something similar in OA... [16:19] mardy, please elaborate [16:20] mpt: I guess we need to update the OA permission request screen in a similar way? [16:20] tvoss: in Online Accounts we also have a permission request screen, which is a bit more complex that this [16:20] mardy, hmm, yes [16:21] mpt: I wonder if space might be a problem there [16:21] well, I guess not [16:23] mardy, ah okay [16:28] tvoss: that screeenshot is coming from that QML file? [16:28] mardy, yup [16:29] tvoss: I thought that one had to set the anchors on Column in order to make it use the full width of the parent [16:29] tvoss: but if it's smarter than I thought, all the better :-) [16:30] tvoss: reapproved :-) === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland === robru_ is now known as robru [16:50] mardy, would you mind giving https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657 a spin? [17:06] ogra_: hurray, I hacked up ubuntu_command to flash my image after flashing ubuntu on the E5 :P [17:09] still not happy though [ 111.076811]systemd-logind[5359]: Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@32011.service === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [17:21] sil2100: heya, any idea what causes the "Not in PPA" errors? [17:21] sil2100: (still with silo 17) [17:22] shadeslayer, weird, given the phone does not use systemd at all [17:23] oh, wait, thats only logind [17:26] ogra_: mmh, well, presumably there's other stuff going on as well on account of it being plasma and not unity :) [17:27] yeah, llikely [17:27] * shadeslayer tries flashing without formatting /system === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === nopf_ is now known as nopf === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [18:55] Hello, do you know a way to mount folder at every boot ? === Zic_ is now known as Guest42907 === teve_ is now known as teve === |svij| is now known as svij === Cimi_ is now known as cimi === Joran is now known as Guest86308 === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader|afk === 5EXAALNLQ is now known as haasn === |svij| is now known as svij === VargaD_ is now known as VargaD === adfad666666 is now known as adfad666 === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === salem_ is now known as _salem === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg === infinity2 is now known as infinity === Foxmaster_ is now known as Foxmaster === vrruiz__ is now known as rvr === DanChapman_ is now known as DanChapman