[00:01] diddledan_: hrmm i've heard reports the 1511 release of win10 got withdrawn O_O [00:01] only the ISO [00:02] it wwas resetting privacy settings and uninstalling some software from reports i read online... [00:02] nah i got told it was the update too [00:04] * zmoylan-pi is watching the expanse. has promise... [00:04] British/US series, or a film? [00:04] <-- no clue [00:05] us sci fi series.... 1 episode so far [00:05] I haven't received the first ep of the expanse yet [00:05] nice attention to detail of a bird flying in zero g [00:06] is it still flying? :D [00:07] that's a good point, does it count as flying when it's in zero-g? [00:08] well scientists are now saying that penguins do fly, just that it's under water... [00:08] so on that premise i'd say yes as it's using it's wings to move and position itself [00:13] wow i can't even visit gamestop.co.uk [00:13] black friday? [00:13] Error code 16 [00:13] This request was blocked by the security rules [00:13] or islands? [00:13] works for me [00:14] yeah I'm guessing it's 'cos daftykins is an illegal [00:14] pretty sure our IP range is blocked from a lot of sites [00:14] very cheap PS4 with a bunch of games meant to be on there, ho hum :> [00:14] shouldn't buy anything anyway! [00:14] * zmoylan-pi waits for the reward on daftykins goes up before reporting... === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:16] srsly? dangling an ethernet cable out of an aeroplane flying above a fast driving car?! [00:16] that would work with co-ax.... don't ask... :-) [00:27] of course the craziest thing that came across my radar on planes recently was this little beauty... watch a hercules c130 take off... quickly... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etzqmtYcpCQ [00:30] that's cking awesome! [00:30] O_O that is amazing [00:30] isn't it? watching it throw itself into the sky using pure rockets is something else... [00:31] they should make more planes like that! [00:32] so what was op credible sport? [00:32] who says that they haven't? /paranoia... [00:32] they were going to fly into iran and rescue hostages in 70s [00:32] all guns AND rockets blazing [00:32] this one explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q [00:33] oh i just saw the end... oops [00:33] yeah, it failed the last flight test... badly... [00:34] land inside a football stdium! [00:34] fell 50ft out of the air when they engaged front braking rockets instead of vertical descent rockets accidently [00:35] :S that's when you want someone to label the controls better [00:36] I love in all the Jerry Anderson model space craft they hover and THEN fire the decent rockets and only THEN start going downwards [00:37] :D [00:37] it was a jury rigged made in 30 days modified plane... they didn't have budget for magic marker... :-) [00:37] you've seen what happens with controls labels in independence day [00:38] haha i was thinking of that very scene as it goes :> [00:38] "what say we try that again?" "yesyes. that way!" [00:38] as bad as folk that use inverted axis on games consoles [00:38] * daftykins tuts [00:38] well in some of the swing wing and vtol experiments in 50s and 60s it kinda looked like that as they switched from using wings for lift to alternate methods [00:39] of course then there's the an-2 a plane with no stall speed so it falls out of the sky like it has a parachute... :-) [00:41] A note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 64 km/h (40 mph) and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 40 km/h (25 mph), the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground." [00:43] o_O [00:43] wow [00:50] zmoylan-pi: do you have any knowledge of whether that C130 mission was a success? :> [00:51] so they originally used computers to fire the rockets and it worked perfectly [00:52] then they decided to have the pilots control it, and human error caused the crash [00:52] it didn't happen as their plane was very broken [00:52] so regan bribed the iranians instead [00:52] i thought ben affleck rescued the hostages [00:52] ben affleck ftw [00:54] aww they could've just built another! [00:55] but that would take another 30 days [00:55] eeeh, hostages sausages *whistles* [00:55] nah the events of the ben affleck movie happened before credible sport apparently [00:55] so instead of building a plane in 30 days they waited a year till the iranians got fed up? [00:56] pretty much [00:56] less than a year [00:56] wikipedia suggests the plan was abandoned due to a change in administration [00:56] they had backup planes [01:03] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012VJ08JA [01:03] this thing is going cheap :O [01:04] i got one of those from argos last year for less [01:05] it had better have superfish! I'm not buying it unless I can get targetted advertising [01:05] the wifi and bt weren't detected by any of the distros i threw at it. still using linux on it as it's beside ethernet cable anyhow and i couldn't be arsed hunting out drivers [01:05] that would be a combo wifi and bluetooth card then [01:05] i got for around €250 [01:05] probably just needs IDs adding to the right kernel module [01:06] got a lspci/lsusb/dmesg? [01:06] i usually check argos 2-3 weeks before they bring out a new catalog for cheap computers :-) [01:06] it's in the kitchen... let me go have a look [01:07] zmoylan-pi: well it's £200 delivered to me, so i've gone for it! [01:07] i can easily sell that [01:11] https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb5y567wd9isf6h/lenovo.png?dl=0 [01:11] aww yeah [01:15] ok so mine is g50-30 which is probably some sub spec of the chassis. shipped with 4gb... now lets have a look [01:16] * zmoylan-pi makes note not to do a lscpi on rasp pi and use terminal on actual laptop :-) [01:17] lspci... http://pastebin.com/0Dyupw51 [01:19] sounds like an atom? [01:21] what about lspci -nn [01:21] yeah, valleyview appears to be atom [01:22] i pastebined without that, am trying to pastebin that now but it's asking me to wait. long time since i used paste bin and not much even then. sorry... [01:22] use pastebinit, it goes to ubuntu's pastebin [01:22] or even "lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 9999" :D [01:23] that haswell i3 on the one i ordered will drive that crazy 2560x1440 LCD i got for someone [01:23] which wants me to read a 1000 pages of instructions to use... [01:24] lspci -nn | pastebinit [01:26] http://hastebin.com/evatahoxey.vhdl [01:26] all 3 in one post [01:27] * zmoylan-pi shuts down kitchen and retreats to warm bed... [01:27] your wifi appears to work [01:27] and bluetooth [01:28] they were both detected anyway [01:29] apparently it all works on the latest kernel / ubuntu 15.04 [01:29] not in linux mint or ubuntu or 2-3 other distros who's names i'd need to check [01:29] was supposedly fixed in may [01:29] oh i did poke around at one point but could never get them connected [01:29] this was after may [01:30] yeah the april ubuntu won't have had it [01:30] just made a note to avoid lenovo next time :-) [01:30] won't have arrived until 15.10 [01:30] thinkpads are great though [01:31] a lenovo isn't automatically a thinkpad though [01:31] i know... next time [01:31] yeah, but a thinkpad is automatically a lenovo (new) [01:31] 2nd hand thinkpads are like £250 [01:31] and are still tanks [01:32] * zmoylan-pi puts on st voyager [01:32] saint voyager! [01:32] i know someone who keeps buying ancient ones and doing them up to sell, seems like a waste of effort to me :> [01:33] daftykins: you do the same with phones :-p [01:33] nah i get given those! [01:33] lol [01:33] they are the equivalent of vintage car market [01:34] * zmoylan-pi pushes box with 10 phones out of sight... :-) [01:34] yah, but those 10 phones are nokias [01:34] they don't count [01:34] anything from the 20th century aren't worth bothering with imo [01:35] only 4-5 nokias. to be dropped into a sock and used to club terminator or dalek into submission :-) [01:35] they won't stand a chance! that's unsporting [01:36] you've got to let them think they have the possibility of winning at least [01:36] that's why they're hidden in a sock [01:36] that's almost as bad as climbing a staircase when pursued by a galick [01:36] garlick* [01:36] that reminds me, i've got another dumphone sony ericsson upstairs charging, got given 3 of them to wipe o0 [01:36] daleks have climbed stairs since 80s [01:37] garlic* [01:37] htf is that spelt? [01:37] garlic yep [01:37] old stinky breaths [01:37] hehe, that was one of those cases of saying it so many times to yourself it lost all meaning eh? :D [01:37] i did that with amazon this morning [01:37] that's why they have the tank to shield everyone from the stench [01:37] "why are we entering a rainforest name to buy things O_O" [01:39] rainforest name because what better way of celebrating the written word than hilighting the fact that you helped destroy a giant forest [01:39] "I feel like helping to destroy an irreplacable natural resource today. TO AMAZON.COM!" [01:40] only just ordered it and already reading the BIOS update description *whistle* [01:40] lol [01:40] nutjob [01:41] :< [01:41] teehee [01:41] well it is a lenovo so his paranoia is already +3 [01:41] was that oddjob's brother? [01:41] it's a term of enderement [01:41] ah this new Tomb Raider really does look impressive [01:42] but her boobs aren't a giant wedge the width of her chest! [01:42] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghcu8ifx8cj1htq/AADOrNs0b6FyRdsX8T7nc02ea?dl=0 [01:42] that's not really a consideration when gaming! [01:43] wow that video is epic [01:43] mmhmm [01:43] that almost tempts me to have a go [01:44] another snap going up after i battle OneDrive [01:44] this is the best graphics! http://tombraiders.net/katie/screenshots/tr1/lara209.jpg [01:45] wow. that lens flare! [01:46] when did games get pretty? [01:46] :) [01:55] d'aww i got a traditional chocolate advent calendar from my olds :P [02:43] here's a blast from the past [02:43] https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgwf52lgny215ai/IMG_20151126_024032.jpg?dl=0 [02:43] wow [02:43] walkman branded, too [02:44] entering an APN into that was amusing [02:44] lol [02:44] the thing has wifi! but i don't have the character set to enter my pass... [02:46] well sony only stopped making sony walkman tape players 2-3 years ago [02:55] and they announced they're going to stop making betamax tapes soon i think [02:56] yey [02:56] what about blurries? [03:00] well the 4K spec for blurries only just got made! [03:00] in the new year everyone will be touting the newer HDR tech, which for all means is yawn [03:00] \o/ [03:03] why can't we have turkey day today?! [03:03] I want to stuff my face till I pass-out! [03:03] wait. that's nothing new. [03:04] buy a turkey and do a dry run for crimbo :-) [03:05] yeah I was just mentioning it 'cos it's american thanksgiving today [03:05] and now we have all their shopping hols but not their food ones! [03:06] at least the internet is a bit faster as they're all stuck at home on home wifi [03:06] yeah. sucky! [03:06] I want food! [03:11] nick daftykins advent calendar :-P [03:12] :D [03:12] Lindt no less! [03:37] wb zmoylan-pi [03:37] 1i* [03:39] it's not even 5am! [04:05] hi alll;] [04:08] \o [04:11] still cant login to my router;/ sucks [04:11] stupid thing [04:16] u wot m8 [04:16] not been told the pass? [04:18] nope;/ [04:18] tried default ones doesnt work [04:23] o_O [04:23] why don't you have the password? [04:23] no idea [04:23] they didnt tell me it [04:33] =[ [04:36] seems a bit odd to not make it widely known [04:36] guess il have to email [05:02] seems common practice in NY now [05:02] they disable the web admin to the users === geheimni1` is now known as geheimnis` === DJones_ is now known as DJones [08:02] morning all [08:13] morning boys and girls. [08:14] morning [09:08] Morning all [09:09] morning === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:18] :) [10:23] Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t [10:26] JamesTait: Not happy turkey day? [10:26] Piecaken. [10:26] All the way. [10:28] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSq93Hsn0Bg [10:30] Groovy, brother. [10:38] rasp... pi... zero... https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/ [10:39] yes. Probably still needs a blob to boot [10:39] so cheap they're putting it on front of a magazine... :-) [10:39] but might be ok as an irc/xmpp/email server [10:40] * zmoylan-pi pats my little irc pi that also does rss and a few other tasks... [10:45] anyone played the tomb raider GO game on android? [10:46] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squareenixmontreal.lcgo&hl=en [10:46] wanted to know what the controls were like [10:53] The Pi2 in one of those FLIRC cases is a dead professional little thing [10:54] The only thing that would improve that Pi Zero is if all the connectors were on one edge [10:54] Then you could just yank it out like a Terminator CPU [10:55] Hell, you could put a heatsink on it that made it look like a terminator CPU, with that form factor [10:59] ridiculuous price for pi zreo [10:59] think i would have to buy one to run risc os === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === andylock1an is now known as andylockran [16:33] pizero can be jewellery: https://twitter.com/uisgebeatha/status/669915012748738560 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [17:00] graham clueless link alert: https://grahamcluley.com/2015/11/plusnet-isnt-acting-safely-password/ [17:05] he has a point [17:05] indeed [17:05] the reply to his request for info is rather unprofessional [17:05] "we're not gonna talk to you" effectively [17:06] I think they're doing the head-in-the-sand approach of "if we don't say anything, it's not happening" [17:08] That worked out well for TalkTalk [17:09] awesome. my Dad has fixed a dead monitor I had [17:09] he's amazeballs [17:10] turns out the capacitors had died [17:10] * bashrc_ wonders if he should get a new monitor [17:11] it's an old LG flattron - wouldn't power on at all. He's got it showing a testcard now [17:11] are you staring at the smoking remains of a dead monitor now bashrc_? if not, no :-) [17:11] 24 inches of pure geek [17:13] my boss got very lucky trying to fix an ancient crt monitor around the millenium. he was a trained engineer in first job and thought what the hell he could save a few pennies by fixing a slightly wonky monitor [17:13] he let it sit to allow the capacitors to discharge before opening it. but he didn't give it enough time and he melted a screwdriver when he went to remove one [17:14] eejit [17:14] we of course offered great support and laughed our heads off :-) [17:14] well done :-) [17:14] zmoylan-pi: there's an issue with my laptop screen so I'm wondering if I should get a monitor [17:14] you have to be cruel at these times :-) [17:14] it's always the best response when someone burns their eyebrows off [17:15] I'm expecting to get a new laptop next year though so I might not bother [17:15] you could get a decent laptop for the price of a decent monitor bashrc_ [17:16] but if it was a good monitor then it could be useful afterwards with a pi doing something else... [17:16] or a pizero for whatever you find down the back of your sofa [17:17] wow... just thinking... if i only spent the money i found inserted into pcs on rasp pi zeros.... i'd have 2-3 rasp pi zeros... :-) [17:18] shoving £20 notes into the floppy drive to pay for amazon orders? [17:18] see, kids of today are missing-out on the lack of holes to shove jammy toast into (VCR!) [17:18] new staff members of a video shop point of sales system who inserted money into the floppy drive... [17:19] but can they not shove a half melted chocolate hobnob into your xbox or playstation? [17:19] true [17:19] gotta love choccy knobknobs [17:20] it's like indiana jones trying to fish them out before they crumble all over the internal boards... [17:24] not the weirdest thing i found lying on a motherboard mind. that would be rivets... [17:24] o_O [17:25] a customer decided to save a penny and have one of their electricians start installing repairing pcs [17:25] he didn't know how to open a pc so would cut the side of and rivet them back on [17:25] o_O [17:25] that's nuts [17:26] no not nuts, rivets :-) [17:26] this was not the money saver they hoped for... [17:27] and he did a really nice job on the riveting so you only knew it was rivetted when you saw a case he had opened beside a case he hadn't AND when you found rivets lying on motherboards and bottom of cases [17:27] which shorted out 2-3 pcs === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === geheimni1` is now known as geheimnis` === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack === marxjohnson is now known as 18WAA8FUH === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack === pwaring_ is now known as pwaring === andylock1an is now known as andylockran === marcus_ is now known as Guest47921 === apt-get-moo_ is now known as apt-get-moo === Chrisfu- is now known as Chrisfu === apt-get-moo_ is now known as apt-get-moo [21:38] o_O [21:39] I didn't realise I had d/c [21:39] I saw a load of netsplit at 19:07 and then nada [23:09] morning daftykins [23:09] heya [23:09] seems i did some dialup impressions in my absence, or just popped off for a bit :) [23:10] there was a massive netsplit that caught me out earlier [23:10] at around 19:07 I disappeared without realising [23:10] I hate when I don't realise that I'm not here [23:11] :D [23:11] suddenly nobody wants to talk to us! [23:11] it strikes that such absentmindedness could mean that I end up in Scottyland or aussietralia or some such without knowing [23:12] just lucky the trains don't run that far i guess, for the latter :> [23:12] aye [23:13] i stayed up this morning and fitted some perspex to my windows! [23:13] https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghfwo16aeqwayjg/IMG_20151126_100747.jpg?dl=0 [23:13] does microsoft provide an API for that? [23:14] :> [23:16] 24 condoms are on amazon's black friday [23:16] 100% claimed tho [23:17] I guess a lot of people think they're gonna get lucky [23:17] I wonder how many of those will be disappointed? [23:18] i had a great pic from my friend of his 14 month old playing with a strip, biting them apparently [23:18] said friends line was "obviously keen for siblings" [23:18] lol [23:21] that Surface Pro 4 despatched \o/ [23:21] yey [23:21] seems next week is going to be my week of glorious deliveries [23:22] get to play with all the things then give them back :D [23:22] :-D followed by :-( [23:24] nah it's deal, means i didn't pay but get all the fun! [23:29] kids can be so mean :-( my lil nephew proudly took a "frozen" lunchbox to school only to be picked-on for having a "girls" lunchbox [23:29] owned :> [23:30] at least he didn't get sent home for it i suppose, like that one in the US with the wonderwoman version [23:30] he's only 5 tho :-( [23:30] far too young to be concerned over such things imo [23:30] nothing like a trial by fire; are you spoiling them again this christmas? :D [23:30] yes. yes I am! :-p [23:31] ooh what's the plan? [23:31] haven't thought that far ahead yet :-) [23:31] 'tis mere weeks! [23:31] I know :-( [23:31] which reminds me i have a gift to put together [23:31] comes along far too quick [23:32] haha, a friend wanted an accessory UK edition board for the board game 'ticket to ride' which i managed to get for £24 on fleaby [23:32] *fleabay [23:32] uk edition? [23:32] welldone :-) [23:32] such thing exists? [23:33] sure does! [23:33] whoa [23:33] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ticket-to-Ride-United-Kingdom-And-Pennsylvania-Map-collection-volume-5-UK-/252154863337 [23:33] only one remains! [23:34] It might be that I'm getting it fir Christmas, judging from dsamples reaction to my 'did you know' question [23:35] :D [23:35] i was introduced to this game in the summer by a Texan pal [23:36] It's great [23:36] We've got quite few expansions [23:37] sadly the most expensive version is in Finland [23:37] the anniversary edition of the original [23:38] It's among the rest of the wedding paraphernalia we haven't had shipped to uk yet === DanChapman_ is now known as DanChapman