[00:01] <daftykins> diddledan_: hrmm i've heard reports the 1511 release of win10 got withdrawn O_O
[00:01] <diddledan_> only the ISO
[00:02] <zmoylan-pi> it wwas resetting privacy settings and uninstalling some software from reports i read online...
[00:02] <daftykins> nah i got told it was the update too
[00:04]  * zmoylan-pi is watching the expanse. has promise...
[00:04] <daftykins> British/US series, or a film?
[00:04] <daftykins> <-- no clue
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> us sci fi series.... 1 episode so far
[00:05] <diddledan_> I haven't received the first ep of the expanse yet
[00:05] <zmoylan-pi> nice attention to detail of a bird flying in zero g
[00:06] <daftykins> is it still flying? :D
[00:07] <diddledan_> that's a good point, does it count as flying when it's in zero-g?
[00:08] <zmoylan-pi> well scientists are now saying that penguins do fly, just that it's under water...
[00:08] <zmoylan-pi> so on that premise i'd say yes as it's using it's wings to move and position itself
[00:13] <daftykins> wow i can't even visit gamestop.co.uk
[00:13] <diddledan_> black friday?
[00:13] <daftykins> Error code 16
[00:13] <daftykins> This request was blocked by the security rules
[00:13] <diddledan_> or islands?
[00:13] <zmoylan-pi> works for me
[00:14] <diddledan_> yeah I'm guessing it's 'cos daftykins is an illegal
[00:14] <daftykins> pretty sure our IP range is blocked from a lot of sites
[00:14] <daftykins> very cheap PS4 with a bunch of games meant to be on there, ho hum :>
[00:14] <daftykins> shouldn't buy anything anyway!
[00:14]  * zmoylan-pi waits for the reward on daftykins goes up before reporting...
[00:16] <diddledan_> srsly? dangling an ethernet cable out of an aeroplane flying above a fast driving car?!
[00:16] <zmoylan-pi> that would work with co-ax.... don't ask... :-)
[00:27] <zmoylan-pi> of course the craziest thing that came across my radar on planes recently was this little beauty... watch a hercules c130 take off... quickly... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etzqmtYcpCQ
[00:30] <diddledan_> that's cking awesome!
[00:30] <daftykins> O_O that is amazing
[00:30] <zmoylan-pi> isn't it?  watching it throw itself into the sky using pure rockets is something else...
[00:31] <diddledan_> they should make more planes like that!
[00:32] <diddledan_> so what was op credible sport?
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> who says that they haven't? /paranoia...
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> they were going to fly into iran and rescue hostages in 70s
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> all guns AND rockets blazing
[00:32] <diddledan_> this one explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q
[00:33] <daftykins> oh i just saw the end... oops
[00:33] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, it failed the last flight test... badly...
[00:34] <diddledan_> land inside a football stdium!
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> fell 50ft out of the air when they engaged front braking rockets instead of vertical descent rockets accidently
[00:35] <daftykins> :S that's when you want someone to label the controls better
[00:36] <diddledan_> I love in all the Jerry Anderson model space craft they hover and THEN fire the decent rockets and only THEN start going downwards
[00:37] <daftykins> :D
[00:37] <zmoylan-pi> it was a jury rigged made in 30 days modified plane... they didn't have budget for magic marker... :-)
[00:37] <diddledan_> you've seen what happens with controls labels in independence day
[00:38] <daftykins> haha i was thinking of that very scene as it goes :>
[00:38] <diddledan_> "what say we try that again?" "yesyes. that way!"
[00:38] <daftykins> as bad as folk that use inverted axis on games consoles
[00:38]  * daftykins tuts
[00:38] <zmoylan-pi> well in some of the swing wing and vtol experiments in 50s and 60s it kinda looked like that as they switched from using wings for lift to alternate methods
[00:39] <zmoylan-pi> of course then there's the an-2 a plane with no stall speed so it falls out of the sky like it has a parachute... :-)
[00:41] <zmoylan-pi> A note from the pilot's handbook reads: "If the engine quits in instrument conditions or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 64 km/h (40 mph) and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 40 km/h (25 mph), the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground."
[00:43] <diddledan_> o_O
[00:43] <diddledan_> wow
[00:50] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: do you have any knowledge of whether that C130 mission was a success? :>
[00:51] <ali1234> so they originally used computers to fire the rockets and it worked perfectly
[00:52] <ali1234> then they decided to have the pilots control it, and human error caused the crash
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> it didn't happen as their plane was very broken
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> so regan bribed the iranians instead
[00:52] <ali1234> i thought ben affleck rescued the hostages
[00:52] <diddledan_> ben affleck ftw
[00:54] <daftykins> aww they could've just built another!
[00:55] <zmoylan-pi> but that would take another 30 days
[00:55] <daftykins> eeeh, hostages sausages *whistles*
[00:55] <ali1234> nah the events of the ben affleck movie happened before credible sport apparently
[00:55] <diddledan_> so instead of building a plane in 30 days they waited a year till the iranians got fed up?
[00:56] <zmoylan-pi> pretty much
[00:56] <ali1234> less than a year
[00:56] <ali1234> wikipedia suggests the plan was abandoned due to a change in administration
[00:56] <ali1234> they had backup planes
[01:03] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012VJ08JA
[01:03] <daftykins> this thing is going cheap :O
[01:04] <zmoylan-pi> i got one of those from argos last year for less
[01:05] <diddledan_> it had better have superfish! I'm not buying it unless I can get targetted advertising
[01:05] <zmoylan-pi> the wifi and bt weren't detected by any of the distros i threw at it.  still using linux on it as it's beside ethernet cable anyhow and i couldn't be arsed hunting out drivers
[01:05] <ali1234> that would be a combo wifi and bluetooth card then
[01:05] <zmoylan-pi> i got for around €250
[01:05] <ali1234> probably just needs IDs adding to the right kernel module
[01:06] <ali1234> got a lspci/lsusb/dmesg?
[01:06] <zmoylan-pi> i usually check argos 2-3 weeks before they bring out a new catalog for cheap computers :-)
[01:06] <zmoylan-pi> it's in the kitchen... let me go have a look
[01:07] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: well it's £200 delivered to me, so i've gone for it!
[01:07] <daftykins> i can easily sell that
[01:11] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb5y567wd9isf6h/lenovo.png?dl=0
[01:11] <daftykins> aww yeah
[01:15] <zmoylan-pi> ok so mine is g50-30 which is probably some sub spec of the chassis. shipped with 4gb... now lets have a look
[01:16]  * zmoylan-pi makes note not to do a lscpi on rasp pi and use terminal on actual laptop :-)
[01:17] <zmoylan-pi> lspci... http://pastebin.com/0Dyupw51
[01:19] <daftykins> sounds like an atom?
[01:21] <ali1234> what about lspci -nn
[01:21] <diddledan_> yeah, valleyview appears to be atom
[01:22] <zmoylan-pi> i pastebined without that, am trying to pastebin that now but it's asking me to wait.  long time since i used paste bin and not much even then. sorry...
[01:22] <ali1234> use pastebinit, it goes to ubuntu's pastebin
[01:22] <daftykins> or even "lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 9999" :D
[01:23] <daftykins> that haswell i3 on the one i ordered will drive that crazy 2560x1440 LCD i got for someone
[01:23] <zmoylan-pi> which wants me to read a 1000 pages of instructions to use...
[01:24] <ali1234> lspci -nn | pastebinit
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> http://hastebin.com/evatahoxey.vhdl
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> all 3 in one post
[01:27]  * zmoylan-pi shuts down kitchen and retreats to warm bed...
[01:27] <ali1234> your wifi appears to work
[01:27] <ali1234> and bluetooth
[01:28] <ali1234> they were both detected anyway
[01:29] <ali1234> apparently it all works on the latest kernel / ubuntu 15.04
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> not in linux mint or ubuntu or 2-3 other distros who's names i'd need to check
[01:29] <ali1234> was supposedly fixed in may
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> oh i did poke around at one point but could never get them connected
[01:29] <zmoylan-pi> this was after may
[01:30] <diddledan_> yeah the april ubuntu won't have had it
[01:30] <zmoylan-pi> just made a note to avoid lenovo next time :-)
[01:30] <diddledan_> won't have arrived until 15.10
[01:30] <ali1234> thinkpads are great though
[01:31] <zmoylan-pi> a lenovo isn't automatically a thinkpad though
[01:31] <ali1234> i know... next time
[01:31] <diddledan_> yeah, but a thinkpad is automatically a lenovo (new)
[01:31] <ali1234> 2nd hand thinkpads are like £250
[01:31] <zmoylan-pi> and are still tanks
[01:32]  * zmoylan-pi puts on st voyager
[01:32] <diddledan_> saint voyager!
[01:32] <daftykins> i know someone who keeps buying ancient ones and doing them up to sell, seems like a waste of effort to me :>
[01:33] <diddledan_> daftykins: you do the same with phones :-p
[01:33] <daftykins> nah i get given those!
[01:33] <diddledan_> lol
[01:33] <zmoylan-pi> they are the equivalent of vintage car market
[01:34]  * zmoylan-pi pushes box with 10 phones out of sight... :-)
[01:34] <diddledan_> yah, but those 10 phones are nokias
[01:34] <diddledan_> they don't count
[01:34] <diddledan_> anything from the 20th century aren't worth bothering with imo
[01:35] <zmoylan-pi> only 4-5 nokias. to be dropped into a sock and used to club terminator or dalek into submission :-)
[01:35] <diddledan_> they won't stand a chance! that's unsporting
[01:36] <diddledan_> you've got to let them think they have the possibility of winning at least
[01:36] <zmoylan-pi> that's why they're hidden in a sock
[01:36] <diddledan_> that's almost as bad as climbing a staircase when pursued by a galick
[01:36] <diddledan_> garlick*
[01:36] <daftykins> that reminds me, i've got another dumphone sony ericsson upstairs charging, got given 3 of them to wipe o0
[01:36] <zmoylan-pi> daleks have climbed stairs since 80s
[01:37] <diddledan_> garlic*
[01:37] <diddledan_> htf is that spelt?
[01:37] <daftykins> garlic yep
[01:37] <diddledan_> old stinky breaths
[01:37] <daftykins> hehe, that was one of those cases of saying it so many times to yourself it lost all meaning eh? :D
[01:37] <daftykins> i did that with amazon this morning
[01:37] <diddledan_> that's why they have the tank to shield everyone from the stench
[01:37] <daftykins> "why are we entering a rainforest name to buy things O_O"
[01:39] <diddledan_> rainforest name because what better way of celebrating the written word than hilighting the fact that you helped destroy a giant forest
[01:39] <diddledan_> "I feel like helping to destroy an irreplacable natural resource today. TO AMAZON.COM!"
[01:40] <daftykins> only just ordered it and already reading the BIOS update description *whistle*
[01:40] <diddledan_> lol
[01:40] <diddledan_> nutjob
[01:41] <daftykins> :<
[01:41] <diddledan_> teehee
[01:41] <zmoylan-pi> well it is a lenovo so his paranoia is already +3
[01:41] <daftykins> was that oddjob's brother?
[01:41] <diddledan_> it's a term of enderement
[01:41] <daftykins> ah this new Tomb Raider really does look impressive
[01:42] <diddledan_> but her boobs aren't a giant wedge the width of her chest!
[01:42] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghcu8ifx8cj1htq/AADOrNs0b6FyRdsX8T7nc02ea?dl=0
[01:42] <daftykins> that's not really a consideration when gaming!
[01:43] <diddledan_> wow that video is epic
[01:43] <daftykins> mmhmm
[01:43] <diddledan_> that almost tempts me to have a go
[01:44] <daftykins> another snap going up after i battle OneDrive
[01:44] <diddledan_> this is the best graphics! http://tombraiders.net/katie/screenshots/tr1/lara209.jpg
[01:45] <diddledan_> wow. that lens flare!
[01:46] <diddledan_> when did games get pretty?
[01:46] <daftykins> :)
[01:55] <daftykins> d'aww i got a traditional chocolate advent calendar from my olds :P
[02:43] <daftykins> here's a blast from the past
[02:43] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgwf52lgny215ai/IMG_20151126_024032.jpg?dl=0
[02:43] <diddledan> wow
[02:43] <diddledan> walkman branded, too
[02:44] <daftykins> entering an APN into that was amusing
[02:44] <diddledan> lol
[02:44] <daftykins> the thing has wifi! but i don't have the character set to enter my pass...
[02:46] <zmoylan-pi> well sony only stopped making sony walkman tape players 2-3 years ago
[02:55] <zmoylan-pi> and they announced they're going to stop making betamax tapes soon i think
[02:56] <diddledan> yey
[02:56] <diddledan> what about blurries?
[03:00] <daftykins> well the 4K spec for blurries only just got made!
[03:00] <daftykins> in the new year everyone will be touting the newer HDR tech, which for all means is yawn
[03:00] <diddledan> \o/
[03:03] <diddledan> why can't we have turkey day today?!
[03:03] <diddledan> I want to stuff my face till I pass-out!
[03:03] <diddledan> wait. that's nothing new.
[03:04] <zmoylan-pi> buy a turkey and do a dry run for crimbo :-)
[03:05] <diddledan> yeah I was just mentioning it 'cos it's american thanksgiving today
[03:05] <daftykins> and now we have all their shopping hols but not their food ones!
[03:06] <zmoylan-pi> at least the internet is a bit faster as they're all stuck at home on home wifi
[03:06] <diddledan> yeah. sucky!
[03:06] <diddledan> I want food!
[03:11] <zmoylan-pi> nick daftykins advent calendar :-P
[03:12] <daftykins> :D
[03:12] <daftykins> Lindt no less!
[03:37] <diddledan> wb zmoylan-pi
[03:37] <diddledan> 1i*
[03:39] <daftykins> it's not even 5am!
[04:05] <mapps> hi alll;]
[04:08] <daftykins> \o
[04:11] <mapps> still cant login to my router;/ sucks
[04:11] <mapps> stupid thing
[04:16] <daftykins> u wot m8
[04:16] <daftykins> not been told the pass?
[04:18] <mapps> nope;/
[04:18] <mapps> tried default ones doesnt work
[04:23] <diddledan> o_O
[04:23] <diddledan> why don't you have the password?
[04:23] <mapps> no idea
[04:23] <mapps> they didnt tell me it
[04:33] <mapps> =[
[04:36] <mapps> seems a bit odd to not make it widely known
[04:36] <mapps> guess il have to email
[05:02] <daftykins> seems common practice in NY now
[05:02] <daftykins> they disable the web admin to the users
[08:02] <moodoo> morning all
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:14] <moodoo> morning
[09:08] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:09] <moodoo> morning
[10:18] <moodoo> :)
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃  http://goo.gl/oKyw2t
[10:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: Not happy turkey day?
[10:26] <JamesTait> Piecaken.
[10:26] <JamesTait> All the way.
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSq93Hsn0Bg
[10:30] <JamesTait> Groovy, brother.
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> rasp... pi... zero... https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/
[10:39] <bashrc_> yes. Probably still needs a blob to boot
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> so cheap they're putting it on front of a magazine... :-)
[10:39] <bashrc_> but might be ok as an irc/xmpp/email server
[10:40]  * zmoylan-pi pats my little irc pi that also does rss and a few other tasks...
[10:45] <foobarry> anyone played the tomb raider GO game on android?
[10:46] <foobarry> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squareenixmontreal.lcgo&hl=en
[10:46] <foobarry> wanted to know what the controls were like
[10:53] <awilkins> The Pi2 in one of those FLIRC cases is a dead professional little thing
[10:54] <awilkins> The only thing that would improve that Pi Zero is if all the connectors were on one edge
[10:54] <awilkins> Then you could just yank it out like a Terminator CPU
[10:55] <awilkins> Hell, you could put a heatsink on it that made it look like a terminator CPU, with that form factor
[10:59] <foobarry> ridiculuous price for pi zreo
[10:59] <foobarry> think i would have to buy one to run risc os
[16:33] <diddledan> pizero can be jewellery: https://twitter.com/uisgebeatha/status/669915012748738560
[17:00] <diddledan> graham clueless link alert: https://grahamcluley.com/2015/11/plusnet-isnt-acting-safely-password/
[17:05] <popey> he has a point
[17:05] <diddledan> indeed
[17:05] <diddledan> the reply to his request for info is rather unprofessional
[17:05] <diddledan> "we're not gonna talk to you" effectively
[17:06] <diddledan> I think they're doing the head-in-the-sand approach of "if we don't say anything, it's not happening"
[17:08] <popey> That worked out well for TalkTalk
[17:09] <diddledan> awesome. my Dad has fixed a dead monitor I had
[17:09] <diddledan> he's amazeballs
[17:10] <diddledan> turns out the capacitors had died
[17:10]  * bashrc_ wonders if he should get a new monitor
[17:11] <diddledan> it's an old LG flattron - wouldn't power on at all. He's got it showing a testcard now
[17:11] <zmoylan-pi> are you staring at the smoking remains of a dead monitor now bashrc_? if not, no :-)
[17:11] <diddledan> 24 inches of pure geek
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> my boss got very lucky trying to fix an ancient crt monitor around the millenium.  he was a trained engineer in first job and thought what the hell he could save a few pennies by fixing a slightly wonky monitor
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> he let it sit to allow the capacitors to discharge before opening it. but he didn't give it enough time and he melted a screwdriver when he went to remove one
[17:14] <diddledan> eejit
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> we of course offered great support and laughed our heads off :-)
[17:14] <diddledan> well done :-)
[17:14] <bashrc_> zmoylan-pi: there's an issue with my laptop screen so I'm wondering if I should get a monitor
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> you have to be cruel at these times :-)
[17:14] <diddledan> it's always the best response when someone burns their eyebrows off
[17:15] <bashrc_> I'm expecting to get a new laptop next year though so I might not bother
[17:15] <zmoylan-pi> you could get a decent laptop for the price of a decent monitor bashrc_
[17:16] <zmoylan-pi> but if it was a good monitor then it could be useful afterwards with a pi doing something else...
[17:16] <diddledan> or a pizero for whatever you find down the back of your sofa
[17:17] <zmoylan-pi> wow... just thinking... if i only spent the money i found inserted into pcs on rasp pi zeros.... i'd have 2-3 rasp pi zeros... :-)
[17:18] <diddledan> shoving £20 notes into the floppy drive to pay for amazon orders?
[17:18] <diddledan> see, kids of today are missing-out on the lack of holes to shove jammy toast into (VCR!)
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> new staff members of a video shop point of sales system who inserted money into the floppy drive...
[17:19] <zmoylan-pi> but can they not shove a half melted chocolate hobnob into your xbox or playstation?
[17:19] <diddledan> true
[17:19] <diddledan> gotta love choccy knobknobs
[17:20] <zmoylan-pi> it's like indiana jones trying to fish them out before they crumble all over the internal boards...
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> not the weirdest thing i found lying on a motherboard mind.  that would be rivets...
[17:24] <diddledan> o_O
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> a customer decided to save a penny and have one of their electricians start installing repairing pcs
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> he didn't know how to open a pc so would cut the side of and rivet them back on
[17:25] <diddledan> o_O
[17:25] <diddledan> that's nuts
[17:26] <zmoylan-pi> no not nuts, rivets :-)
[17:26] <zmoylan-pi> this was not the money saver they hoped for...
[17:27] <zmoylan-pi> and he did a really nice job on the riveting so you only knew it was rivetted when you saw a case he had opened beside a case he hadn't AND when you found rivets lying on motherboards and bottom of cases
[17:27] <zmoylan-pi> which shorted out 2-3 pcs
[21:38] <diddledan> o_O
[21:39] <diddledan> I didn't realise I had d/c
[21:39] <diddledan> I saw a load of netsplit at 19:07 and then nada
[23:09] <diddledan> morning daftykins
[23:09] <daftykins> heya
[23:09] <daftykins> seems i did some dialup impressions in my absence, or just popped off for a bit :)
[23:10] <diddledan> there was a massive netsplit that caught me out earlier
[23:10] <diddledan> at around 19:07 I disappeared without realising
[23:10] <diddledan> I hate when I don't realise that I'm not here
[23:11] <daftykins> :D
[23:11] <daftykins> suddenly nobody wants to talk to us!
[23:11] <diddledan> it strikes that such absentmindedness could mean that I end up in Scottyland or aussietralia or some such without knowing
[23:12] <daftykins> just lucky the trains don't run that far i guess, for the latter :>
[23:12] <diddledan> aye
[23:13] <daftykins> i stayed up this morning and fitted some perspex to my windows!
[23:13] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghfwo16aeqwayjg/IMG_20151126_100747.jpg?dl=0
[23:13] <diddledan> does microsoft provide an API for that?
[23:14] <daftykins> :>
[23:16] <diddledan> 24 condoms are on amazon's black friday
[23:16] <diddledan> 100% claimed tho
[23:17] <diddledan> I guess a lot of people think they're gonna get lucky
[23:17] <diddledan> I wonder how many of those will be disappointed?
[23:18] <daftykins> i had a great pic from my friend of his 14 month old playing with a strip, biting them apparently
[23:18] <daftykins> said friends line was "obviously keen for siblings"
[23:18] <diddledan> lol
[23:21] <daftykins> that Surface Pro 4 despatched \o/
[23:21] <diddledan> yey
[23:21] <daftykins> seems next week is going to be my week of glorious deliveries
[23:22] <daftykins> get to play with all the things then give them back :D
[23:22] <diddledan> :-D followed by :-(
[23:24] <daftykins> nah it's deal, means i didn't pay but get all the fun!
[23:29] <diddledan> kids can be so mean :-( my lil nephew proudly took a "frozen" lunchbox to school only to be picked-on for having a "girls" lunchbox
[23:29] <daftykins> owned :>
[23:30] <daftykins> at least he didn't get sent home for it i suppose, like that one in the US with the wonderwoman version
[23:30] <diddledan> he's only 5 tho :-(
[23:30] <diddledan> far too young to be concerned over such things imo
[23:30] <daftykins> nothing like a trial by fire; are you spoiling them again this christmas? :D
[23:30] <diddledan> yes. yes I am! :-p
[23:31] <daftykins> ooh what's the plan?
[23:31] <diddledan> haven't thought that far ahead yet :-)
[23:31] <daftykins> 'tis mere weeks!
[23:31] <diddledan> I know :-(
[23:31] <daftykins> which reminds me i have a gift to put together
[23:31] <diddledan> comes along far too quick
[23:32] <daftykins> haha, a friend wanted an accessory UK edition board for the board game 'ticket to ride' which i managed to get for £24 on fleaby
[23:32] <daftykins> *fleabay
[23:32] <Myrtti> uk edition?
[23:32] <diddledan> welldone :-)
[23:32] <Myrtti> such thing exists?
[23:33] <daftykins> sure does!
[23:33] <Myrtti> whoa
[23:33] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ticket-to-Ride-United-Kingdom-And-Pennsylvania-Map-collection-volume-5-UK-/252154863337
[23:33] <daftykins> only one remains!
[23:34] <Myrtti> It might be that I'm getting it fir Christmas, judging from dsamples reaction to my 'did you know' question
[23:35] <daftykins> :D
[23:35] <daftykins> i was introduced to this game in the summer by a Texan pal
[23:36] <Myrtti> It's great
[23:36] <Myrtti> We've got quite few expansions
[23:37] <Myrtti> sadly the most expensive version is in Finland
[23:37] <Myrtti> the anniversary edition of the original
[23:38] <Myrtti> It's among the rest of the wedding paraphernalia we haven't had shipped to uk yet